From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Fri Apr 1 08:10:01 2005 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:46 2005 Subject: Web4Lib Frequently Asked Questions List Apr 01 Message-ID: <200504011310.j31DA1w31838@olcfax2.ohiolink.edu> WEB4LIB FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS April 01, 2005 [Note: I am not the Web4Lib listowner. Please do not send subscription problems to me. - Thomas] This is the current set of Frequently Asked Questions (or, perhaps, Frequently Needed Answers) for the Web4Lib mailing list. Questions in this message: How do I unsubscribe from Web4Lib? What help is available if the list software won't do what I want? Where are the list's archives? Where is its Web site? What topics are usually considered on- and off-topic? Is there a list for Internet filtering? HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM WEB4LIB? To unsubscribe from Web4Lib, you must e-mail the listproc program that distributes the list. PLEASE NOTE: this is a different address than the list itself. To unsubscribe, send e-mail to listproc@webjunction.org with this single line in the body of the message: unsubscribe web4lib Shortly after you send this command, you should receive a confirmation message from listproc reading, "You have been removed from list web4lib@webjunction.org. Thanks for being with us." This message usually arrives within a few minutes, but may take a couple of hours if the server is busy; if you do not receive it in a reasonable time, you should contact the list owner, Roy Tennant, at roy.tennant@ucop.edu. The software running Web4Lib is currently ListProc 6.0. This is a powerful and flexible program, and it may offer you options for management and receipt of Web4Lib that you did not know about. For further options, send listproc@webjunction.org the message "help", or consult the command reference at the Web4Lib Web site . WHAT HELP IS AVAILABLE IF THE LISTSERV WON'T DO WHAT I WANT? There are two common reasons why the commands above don't work and give you an error message. One is, ahem, operator error. If you're trying to unsubscribe or issue other listproc commands, make sure that you are spelling both the listproc address and the command correctly. The other common reason why unsubscribe and other commands fail is that your e-mail address has changed since you first subscribed to the list. Sometimes this is because you have chosen to forward mail from your original address to a new one. Sometimes this is due to your organization changing its entire e-mail addressing structure en masse (for example, from addresses like "chris@mailhost.domain.org" to "chris@domain.org"). For security reasons, listproc will only process commands affecting your subscription if the command is mailed from the same address as the original subscription request. 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If your mail client can filter incoming messages based on their subject lines, and if you would rather not see this message again, simply set it to delete or otherwise refile messages with that subject heading. If you think there are questions which should be addressed on this list (especially if you can provide the answer!) please contact Thomas Dowling, tdowling@ohiolink.edu. From KevilL at missouri.edu Fri Apr 1 09:28:02 2005 From: KevilL at missouri.edu (Kevil, L H.) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Google a la francaise Message-ID: Here's a link to an article in the Nouvel Observateur on this subject: http://permanent.nouvelobs.com/multimedia/20050317.OBS1429.html It is interesting in that it quotes Vabres as saying that the project is not anti-Google, but intended to digitize the "European cultural heritage" in conjunction with the great European libraries. He mentions a peer-to-peer network for sharing. I see several ironies here. First, I believe (but am not positive) that Google approached some of the great French libraries and was rebuffed. The Bibliotheque Nationale has its own digitization project, called Gallica. (They claim 80,000 works already - I like Gallica a lot.) But the national budget for digitization is all of 15,000,000 euros. The greatest irony is that while we Americans acknowledge our European roots and intend to digitize works in all languages, the French continue to claim - implicitly at least - that there is some kind of divide between European and American cultural heritage. I suspect the divide is more between their command-and-control ideal for government and the free market, best represented by the Internet, which so far is free of government control (though the UN has plans for a takeover.) If the French were to cooperate with Google to avoid duplication, then we would all applaud their effort to make their culture available to the world. Hunter L. Hunter KEVIL Collection Development Librarian University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, Missouri 65201 KevilL@missouri.edu 573-884-8760 Knowledge is one of the few things that can be given to others without reducing the amount you have left. (Thomas Sowell) -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Sloan, Bernie Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:47 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Google a la francaise Another piece on France's reaction to Google's book digitization project, from the March 31 issue of the Economist: http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displayStory.cfm?story_id=3819169 Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant, ILCSO University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 616 E. Green Street, Suite 213 Champaign, IL 61820 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 265-0454 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From gpeterson at hclib.org Fri Apr 1 11:05:50 2005 From: gpeterson at hclib.org (Peterson, Glenn) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:46 2005 Subject: Subject Guide updates offered via RSS Message-ID: <9DE2996D5E4D7145BF5B9A9D9F3E40C802003874@exchange2.hclib.org> Hennepin County Library now offers librarian-created content across 26 subject areas via RSS. Our "Librarian Notes" highlight timely web resources of high-interest to the general public. Recent notes touched on health care directives, Women's History Month and foreign news sources. Looking for current, subject-specific content for your website? We invite you to incorporate our notes into your site if you wish. (Some of the notes are primarily of local or regional interest.) Subscribe to a combined feed of all subjects here: http://www.hclib.org/pub/search/XML/LibnNotes/GetXML.cfm?Topic=All&Display=All+Subject+Guides or select from specific subjects here: http://www.hclib.org/pub/search/RSS.cfm ------------------------------------------------------------------ Glenn Peterson gpeterson@hclib.org Web Administrator http://www.hclib.org Hennepin County Library voice: 952-847-8659 12601 Ridgedale Drive fax: 952-847-8642 Minnetonka, MN 55305 ----------------------------------------------------------------- From dan at riverofdata.com Fri Apr 1 11:13:00 2005 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:46 2005 Subject: Alternative to email and chat Message-ID: <1358696124.20050401091300@riverofdata.com> http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2005/04/01/ The latest from the fine folks who bring you Opera. -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 208-283-7711 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com Fair is whatever God decides to do. From george at library.caltech.edu Fri Apr 1 11:19:53 2005 From: george at library.caltech.edu (george@library.caltech.edu) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:46 2005 Subject: new version of Camino Message-ID: <2DB0071B2579A2448430A96C451BBB27544AC5@CLSX.cls.caltech.edu> For those running Macs, Camino , the Mac OS X-specific Gecko-based browser from the Mozilla Organization , has released an update which fixes a few bugs and security holes. The now current version is Camino 0.8.3. George S. Porter Sherman Fairchild Library of Engineering & Applied Science California Institute of Technology Mail Code 1-43, Pasadena, CA 91125-4300 Telephone (626) 395-3409 Fax (626) 431-2681 http://library.caltech.edu contributor http://stlq.info | http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/fosblog.html From josephw at admin.stedwards.edu Fri Apr 1 11:49:39 2005 From: josephw at admin.stedwards.edu (josephw@admin.stedwards.edu) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Alternative to email and chat Message-ID: <112170-22005451164939523@M2W075.mail2web.com> Interesting technology. I tried out the demo a few times with people here, but apparently, the people I work with don't fully grasp this new development. ;-) Joe Wojtowicz Systems Librarian St. Edward's University Austin, TX josephw@admin.stedwards.edu Original Message: ----------------- From: Dan Lester dan@riverofdata.com Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 08:14:46 -0800 (PST) To: web4lib@webjunction.org Subject: [WEB4LIB] Alternative to email and chat http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2005/04/01/ The latest from the fine folks who bring you Opera. -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 208-283-7711 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com Fair is whatever God decides to do. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Fri Apr 1 11:55:54 2005 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:46 2005 Subject: Wireless Libraries blog: New content from Wikipedia Message-ID: As some of you may notice, I am adding new content from selected articles on Wikipedia to Wireless Libraries blog . After reading many of the more technical articles on Wikipedia, I have decided to not reinvent the wheel. If you are careful, one can find excellent content on Wikipedia. It is also under the GNU copyright so it is easy to add to the blog without any need to ask. Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference Morrisville State College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net Wireless Libraries: http://wirelesslibraries.blogspot.com Library: http://library.morrisville.edu/ SUNYConnect: http://www.sunyconnect.suny.edu/ My Blog: http://babyboomerlibrarian.blogspot.com/ "To teach is to learn twice." - Joseph Joubert From dan at riverofdata.com Fri Apr 1 12:49:33 2005 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:46 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Alternative to email and chat In-Reply-To: <112170-22005451164939523@M2W075.mail2web.com> References: <112170-22005451164939523@M2W075.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <16110610343.20050401104933@riverofdata.com> Friday, April 1, 2005, 9:51:40 AM, you wrote: jase> Interesting technology. I tried out the demo a few times with people here, jase> but apparently, the people I work with don't fully grasp this new jase> development. ;-) It does work better if they take off the headsets they have plugged into their ipods or other MP3 players. I don't think Opera pointed out that flaw in the system. Congratulations on being a beta tester. -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 208-283-7711 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com Fair is whatever God decides to do. From Aidan.Sheridan at cityofportmoody.com Fri Apr 1 15:10:48 2005 From: Aidan.Sheridan at cityofportmoody.com (Aidan.Sheridan@cityofportmoody.com) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:46 2005 Subject: Active Directory book Message-ID: Hello All, I'm looking for a good administrators guide to Active Directory. Our team wants to have a couple books for in-house use. Does anybody have any good recommendations or a must have for an Active Directory network? Thanks in advance! __________________________________ Aidan Sheridan Network Support Specialist City of Port Moody 604-469-4688 aidan.sheridan@cityofportmoody.com ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org Wed Apr 6 10:24:59 2005 From: Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org (Walt_Crawford@notes.rlg.org) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:47 2005 Subject: April 2005 Cites & Insights available Message-ID: Cites & Insights 5:6 (April 2005) is now available for downloading at http://cites.boisestate.edu/civ5i6.pdf The 22-page issue (PDF as always) includes: * Bibs & Blather: Go Away--and an HTML challenge * disContent Perspective: Print a bil i ty (30% failure!) * The Library Stuff: seven articles worth noting * Net Media Perspective: Google and Gorman - more thoughts on Google Print, and some musings on the recent storminess * Trends & Quick Takes: four trends, eight quicker takes * The Good Stuff: five articles worth noting For those who really only want to read one article, you'll find HTML links to most articles (well, all of them for this issue) at http://cites.boisestate.edu/ PS: Some of you may be interested in Walt at Random, http://walt.lishost.org a new weblog from the editor & publisher of Cites & Insights From stacy.pober at manhattan.edu Wed Apr 6 18:02:03 2005 From: stacy.pober at manhattan.edu (Stacy Pober) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:47 2005 Subject: Files & Folders 101 Message-ID: <20050406180203.up2x485f4fgow4sk@webmail.manhattan.edu> I've been helping someone learn HTML so that he can do his own web project. He's learned the HTML well, but is having persistent problems with the basic understanding of the structure of information as saved in files and folders and the difference between saving a file on his local machine vs. FTP-ing it onto web server. I'm not as patient as I aspire to be, and after there's only so many times I can explain that the reason he doesn't see the change to his pages is that the file is still on his PC and hasn't been transferred to the server, or that it is in the wrong folder rather than the public HTML server folder without feeling that maybe I'm going about this the wrong way. I wonder if there's some good basic help out there, either in the form of a web tutorial or a good (but short) book. The person who needs this uses computers every day without a problem, so I'm not looking for something that covers a wide range of computer topics, just issues related to storage of information in files and folders and subfolders and local vs. remote. Whatever it is has to use Windows terminology, otherwise it will be useless. -- Stacy Pober Information Alchemist Manhattan College O'Malley Library Riverdale, NY 10471 stacy.pober@manhattan.edu From alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org Wed Apr 6 18:25:35 2005 From: alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org (Alnisa Allgood) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:47 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Files & Folders 101 In-Reply-To: <20050406180203.up2x485f4fgow4sk@webmail.manhattan.edu> References: <20050406180203.up2x485f4fgow4sk@webmail.manhattan.edu> Message-ID: At 2:30 PM -0700 4/6/05, Stacy Pober wrote: >I've been helping someone learn HTML so that he can do his own web project. > >He's learned the HTML well, but is having persistent problems with the >basic understanding of the structure of information as saved in files and >folders and the difference between saving a file on his local machine >vs. FTP-ing it onto web server. > >I'm not as patient as I aspire to be, and after there's only so many times >I can explain that the reason he doesn't see the change to his pages is >that the file is still on his PC and hasn't been transferred to the server, >or that it is in the wrong folder rather than the public HTML server folder >without feeling that maybe I'm going about this the wrong way. I say forget teaching people who can't understand, they will eventually catch on at their own time. What you need is a solution that adapts to them. Now I'm not certain if he's a Mac or PC user, or if he's using a text editor versus something like DreamWeaver. But on my Mac I use Transmit (ftp) and BBedit (text editor). I set Transmit to post process double-clicked files in BBedit, and set BBedit to send modification back to the server. I know a number of Mac OS and Mac OS X FTP and HTML/Text Editors allow this type of functionality, and assume that the PC equivalent is possible. But also, if your teaching him to use an application like Adobe GoLive or DreamWeaver, they both have built in FTP functions, that allow live editing or editing synchronizing. Sometimes the best method is the path of least resistance. If they don't understand now, they probably will some day later, but provide a solution that doesn't require their full understanding. Alnisa From ldeclerck at library.ucsd.edu Wed Apr 6 19:30:32 2005 From: ldeclerck at library.ucsd.edu (Luc Declerck) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:47 2005 Subject: Job Posting: Web Managing Editor - San Diego, CA Message-ID: WEB MANAGING EDITOR UCSD Libraries University of California, San Diego Hiring Salary Range: $44,300 - $84,800 Filing Deadline: April 29, 2005 The UCSD Libraries, one of the nation's top academic research libraries, = seeks a forward thinking Web Managing Editor with strong web design and = editorial skills to provide leadership towards the enhancement of the = Libraries public and staff web presence. Reporting to the Associate = University Librarian for Technology Services, the Managing Editor is = responsible for creating the UCSD Libraries public website, a primary = service and information delivery point, which serves as a gateway to the = resources, services, collections, and news of the University's libraries. = It also serves as a key communications dissemination mechanism for = information about the libraries, its staff, policies, services, and = facilities. The public website is intended to be a virtual extension of = the physical libraries and an integrated and coherent electronic portal, = responsive to the information and access needs of university users. The = staff Intranet is equally important and serves to inform, support and = motivate staff, and to sustain excellence within the Libraries. =20 Key responsibilities: =95 Assume leadership in creating a public website that effectively = presents to users the wide array of digital and print collections = resources available through the libraries and beyond, guides them in their = research and information-seeking endeavors, and engages them through = dynamic and interactive design. =95 Serve as editor-in-chief for the website by establishing a consistent = publishing style, developing policies and procedures, coordinating the = creation and maintenance of interactive features and content, providing = support to content authors, and designing and developing prototypes for = review and discussion.=20 =95 Oversee ongoing development and maintenance of the Libraries' staff = Intranet. =95 Work closely with the Library's Information Technology Department to = create a website and Intranet that meet users' needs. =95 Manage the Libraries' Web Content Management System (WCMS). =95 Recommend, liaise, and supervise outside contractors. =20 The complete position description is available at: http://orpheus.ucsd.edu= /fac/WebMngEditor.htm=20 =20 Required Qualifications: =95 Minimum of 3-5 years experience managing a large and complex website. = Comprehensive understanding of software, systems, hardware and techniques = used in web communication and web development. =95 Demonstrated knowledge of web design skills, web architecture = principles, the formulation of web taxonomies, and familiarity with web = accessibility norms and guidelines, including ADA. =20 =95 Experience analyzing website performance and usability. =95 Demonstrated experience with web publishing, web search engines, and = portal development software tools. =95 Familiarity with HTML, CSS, XML, CGI, SQL, JavaScript and emerging Web = technologies. =95 Demonstrated ability to manage and oversee complex projects in a team = environment, meet deadlines, and prioritize work. =95 Strong oral and written communication skills. Excellent interpersonal = skills and ability to build consensus among a wide variety and range of = partners. =20 Preferred Qualifications: =95 Professional degree in Library and Information Science or equivalent = discipline. =95 Experience in an academic and/or research library environment. =95 Experience with Enterprise-level Web Content Management (CMS) = software. =20 To apply for this position, please submit cover letter and resume using = the UCSD Applicant Toolkit at: http://joblink.ucsd.edu. Please reference = job # 35747. ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From crobledo at mission-viejo.com Wed Apr 6 20:07:27 2005 From: crobledo at mission-viejo.com (Colleen Robledo) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:47 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Files & Folders 101 Message-ID: Hello, Elizabeth Castro's "HTML for the World Wide Web" does a good job. This was used as a recommended reading for my library school web design class. I already had experience with this kind of stuff, but I still found the basics very helpful, especially in terms of FTP'g and how to correctly name files/folders (I'd alwasy published with FrontPage). Lots of pictures too. I also maintain a web project for USGenWeb, and refer my new state file manages to the following basic FTP tutorial: http://www.ftpplanet.com/ftpresources/basics.htm Regards, Colleen Robledo Mission Viejo Library Library Assistant, Technology Center 949/830-7100 (Ext: 4012) CRobledo@mission-viejo.com http://www.cmvl.org >>> Stacy Pober 4/6/2005 2:32:14 PM >>> I've been helping someone learn HTML so that he can do his own web project. He's learned the HTML well, but is having persistent problems with the basic understanding of the structure of information as saved in files and folders and the difference between saving a file on his local machine vs. FTP-ing it onto web server. I'm not as patient as I aspire to be, and after there's only so many times I can explain that the reason he doesn't see the change to his pages is that the file is still on his PC and hasn't been transferred to the server, or that it is in the wrong folder rather than the public HTML server folder without feeling that maybe I'm going about this the wrong way. I wonder if there's some good basic help out there, either in the form of a web tutorial or a good (but short) book. The person who needs this uses computers every day without a problem, so I'm not looking for something that covers a wide range of computer topics, just issues related to storage of information in files and folders and subfolders and local vs. remote. Whatever it is has to use Windows terminology, otherwise it will be useless. -- Stacy Pober Information Alchemist Manhattan College O'Malley Library Riverdale, NY 10471 stacy.pober@manhattan.edu From bjuhl at uark.edu Wed Apr 6 20:48:55 2005 From: bjuhl at uark.edu (Beth Juhl) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:47 2005 Subject: dynamic table of contents generation / indexing Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050406193053.01e3abc0@mail.uark.edu> Hello all - Longtime lurker. First time questioner. We are looking at "best practices" for creating and maintaining a site a-z index. The ideal for us would be something that could periodically generate a starting index from meta keywords that could then be hand-edited if needed. Has anyone out there tried either of these: Deva Add-Ins for Dreamweaver: http://www.devahelp.com/ HTML Indexer: http://www.html-indexer.com/ Either might work for us but I keep thinking I am missing some really obvious solution or technique that might be more elegant. Anyone have a blindingly obvious set of tools for doing this? thanks! Beth Juhl Web Services 365 N. Ozark Ave. University of Arkansas Libraries Fayetteville, AR 72701 479-575-4665 From Bich-Lien.Doan at supelec.fr Fri Apr 8 11:00:29 2005 From: Bich-Lien.Doan at supelec.fr (Bich-Lien Doan) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:47 2005 Subject: doctoral consortium context-05 Message-ID: <200504081500.j38F0ao09323@supelec.supelec.fr> CONTEXT'05 Doctoral Consortium Paris, France, July 5, 2005 (Submissions EXTENDED DEADLINES: April 10, 2005) Web site: http://www.context-05.org/DC/ The Fifth International and Interdisciplinary Conference on Modeling and Using Context (CONTEXT'05) has for the first time a Doctoral Consortium for Ph.D. Students. This will be the opportunity for Ph.D. students to discuss and explore their research interests related to context with a panel of well-known researchers in different disciplines. The objectives of the Doctoral Consortium are: (1) to provide a setting for mutual feedback on participants' current research, and guidance on future research directions; (2) to develop a supportive community of scholars and a spirit of collaborative research; and (3) to contribute to the conference goals through interaction with other researchers and participation in other conference events. Topics include but are not limited to the ones listed in the CFP of the main conference. The list can be found on line at http://www.context-05.org ACCEPTANCE CRITERIA AND SUBMISSION CATEGORIES Submissions to the Doctoral Consortium will be evaluated both for their technical merit and for their accessibility to an interdisciplinary audience. Work crossing disciplinary boundaries are especially encouraged. Papers accepted will be presented in the doctoral consortium and authors will have the chance to discuss their work with the audience. All accepted paper will be published as LIP6 Research Reports. SUBMISSION PROCEDURES Submissions must follow the requirements and instructions of the main conference. Submissions cannot exceed 10 pages in the Springer LNAI format. Author instructions are on-line at www.context-05.org. For any questions, please send an e-mail to the consortium organizers at oc-dc@context-05.org. IMPORTANT DATES Deadline for paper submissions April 4 (extended to April 10), 2005 Notification of acceptance May 2, 2005 Camera ready due June 1, 2005 Doctoral consortium July 5, 2005 Main Conference July 6-8, 2005 DOCTORAL CONSORTIUM ORGANIZERS Chiara Ghidini (Chair), ITC-IRST, Italy Bich-Lien Doan (Local Organiser), Supelec, France PROGRAMME COMMITTEE Varol Akman, Bilkent University, Turkey John Barnden, University of Birmingham, UK Carla Bazzanella, Universita' di Torino, Italy Massimo Benerecetti, Universita' di Napoli, Italy Paolo Bouquet, Universita' di Trento, Italy Patrick Brezillon, University of Paris 6, France Bich-Lien Doan, Supelec, France Bruce Edmonds, Manchester Metropolitan University, UK Chiara Ghidini, ITC-irst, Italy Rolf Nossum, Agder University College, Norway Luciano Serafini, ITC-irst, Italy Rich Thomason, University of Michigan, USA Roy Turner, University of Maine, USA Johan van Benthem, University of Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Terry Winograd, Stanford University, USA ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From calumet at mindspring.com Fri Apr 8 13:16:23 2005 From: calumet at mindspring.com (Tara Calishain) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:47 2005 Subject: Latest Resource Listings from ResearchBuzz -- ( March 31 - April 6 ) Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050408131556.02f67c60@pop.mindspring.com> Following are links to resource writeups from the latest issue of ResearchBuzz ( March 31 - April 6 ). As always you may subscribe to the newsletter by visiting http://www.researchbuzz.com . Thanks, Tara tara@researchbuzz.com -- ** Yahoo Backs Up Wikipedia ** Compare Hospital Care With Online Tool ** LOC Releases James Madison Papers ** Google Blogoscoped Creates Auto-Linker Tool ** Diary of Captain Cook Available Online ** Yahoo Makes Changes to Y!Q ** Scotsman Expands Archive to 1950, Makes Free Offer ** April Fool's Day Roundup Also On the Site ---------------- ** Getting Yahoo Local Results in a Spreadsheet ** Trendalicious for Del.Icio.Us ** Yahoo Announces New Index ** Rhode Island's New Find-Your-Official Tool ** Kansas Offers Alert Service for Gubernatorial Press Releases From Michael.Yunkin at ccmail.nevada.edu Fri Apr 8 16:55:34 2005 From: Michael.Yunkin at ccmail.nevada.edu (Michael.Yunkin@ccmail.nevada.edu) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:47 2005 Subject: Request for input on proprietary Content Management Systems Message-ID: Greetings all! We at UNLV are looking into migrating our website to a CMS in the near future. Though we've spent some time looking at open source products, we're just beginning to weigh our proprietary options. We'd like to hear from other academic libraries who are using proprietary Web Content Management Systems. Although at this point we're just looking for names of potential vendors and products, any extra information (including--and perhaps especially--editorial information), background, or suggestions would also be appreciated. Please send your responses to me off-list. Thank you, Michael Yunkin Web Content/Metadata Manager UNLV Libraries Las Vegas, NV michael.yunkin@ccmail.nevada.edu **Cross-posted to LITA-L** ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From ldeclerck at library.ucsd.edu Fri Apr 8 20:12:52 2005 From: ldeclerck at library.ucsd.edu (Luc Declerck) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:47 2005 Subject: Job Posting: Web Managing Editor - San Diego, CA Message-ID: WEB MANAGING EDITOR UCSD Libraries University of California, San Diego Hiring Salary Range: $44,300 - $84,800 Filing Deadline: April 29, 2005 The UCSD Libraries, one of the nation's top academic research libraries, seeks a forward thinking Web Managing Editor with strong web design and editorial skills to provide leadership towards the enhancement of the Libraries public and staff web presence. Reporting to the Associate University Librarian for Technology Services, the Managing Editor is responsible for creating the UCSD Libraries public website, a primary service and information delivery point, which serves as a gateway to the resources, services, collections, and news of the University's libraries. It also serves as a key communications dissemination mechanism for information about the libraries, its staff, policies, services, and facilities. The public website is intended to be a virtual extension of the physical libraries and an integrated and coherent electronic portal, responsive to the information and access needs of university users. The staff Intranet is equally important and serves to inform, support and motivate staff, and to sustain excellence within the Libraries. Key responsibilities: - Assume leadership in creating a public website that effectively presents to users the wide array of digital and print collections resources available through the libraries and beyond, guides them in their research and information-seeking endeavors, and engages them through dynamic and interactive design. - Serve as editor-in-chief for the website by establishing a consistent publishing style, developing policies and procedures, coordinating the creation and maintenance of interactive features and content, providing support to content authors, and designing and developing prototypes for review and discussion. - Oversee ongoing development and maintenance of the Libraries' staff Intranet. - Work closely with the Library's Information Technology Department to create a website and Intranet that meet users' needs. - Manage the Libraries' Web Content Management System (WCMS). - Recommend, liaise, and supervise outside contractors. The complete position description is available at: http://orpheus.ucsd.edu//WebMngEditor.htm Required Qualifications: - Minimum of 3-5 years experience managing a large and complex website. - Comprehensive understanding of software, systems, hardware and techniques used in web communication and web development. -Demonstrated knowledge of web design skills, web architecture principles, the formulation of web taxonomies, and familiarity with web accessibility norms and guidelines, including ADA. - Experience analyzing website performance and usability. - Demonstrated experience with web publishing, web search engines, and portal development software tools. - Familiarity with HTML, CSS, XML, CGI, SQL, JavaScript and emerging Web technologies. - Demonstrated ability to manage and oversee complex projects in a team environment, meet deadlines, and prioritize work. - Strong oral and written communication skills. Excellent interpersonal skills and ability to build consensus among a wide variety and range of partners. Preferred Qualifications: - Professional degree in Library and Information Science or equivalent discipline. - Experience in an academic and/or research library environment. - Experience with Enterprise-level Web Content Management (CMS) software. To apply for this position, please submit cover letter and resume using the UCSD Applicant Toolkit at: http://joblink.ucsd.edu. Please reference job # 35747. ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From malefica at web.de Thu Apr 14 06:19:14 2005 From: malefica at web.de (Janine Bendel) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:49 2005 Subject: opacs for children Message-ID: <1693294721@web.de> Dear Ms. and Mr., I?m studying library science in berlin (germany) and at the moment I?m writing my master thesis with the topic ?opac?s for children?. My aim is an international comparison and as a basement I chose the ?Best- Practice-Recherche? (Bertelsmann) with the following countries: USA, England, Denmark, Finland and Singapore. Till now I found predominant eldery literature about these topic (f.e. ?B?cherschatz? in Hamburg; formerly studies: P. Solomon, V. Walter), not so much in the bibliographies (LISA, LiLi) but also some interesting new projects in the internet (f.e. in Maryland and Denmark). I?ve also talked with many librarians and next I?ll contact some software companies. Can anybody give me some more advices or do you know persons to talk to for me? Thank you! Yours sincerely Janine Bendel ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 From scahilla at baypath.edu Thu Apr 14 07:38:25 2005 From: scahilla at baypath.edu (Sandra Cahillane) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:49 2005 Subject: more on remote authentication issue Message-ID: Thank you to all who responded so far. This is very helpful. Our first choice is to use ezproxy. It sounds like we could do that on a separate machine with linux. The only problem is the pc we use. Our old server is an option but would it really be reliable enough to convert to the proxy given that we just replaced it with the brand-new server? It is also an IBM but probably between 7 and 8 years old. Is it worth it to try and keep it in service? Or should I try and wrangle a newer, older pc out of our IT department (no offense to IT people, but I'm guessing you propably know how this goes)? I'm including my first message below for those of you who may not have seen it: "We just purchased a lovely, new IBM server with AIX on it. Sadly, ezproxy no longer maintains software for this platform. We would very much like to be our own proxy server for remote authentication. I would love any and all ideas and suggestions (or workarounds for ezproxy) that people could suggest as possible solutions for remote authentication for a unix box for a non-programmer systems administrator. I am familiar with cgi-scripts. Would a cgi-script work for remote access? Primarily what I want is a seamless, one click authentication process for users that will direct them to the correct page (database listing or remote access logon page) depending on whether they are on-campus or off." Thanks again, Sandy Cahillane Systems and Reference Librarian Bay Path College Hatch Library 588 Longmeadow Street Longmeadow, MA 01106 (413) 567-4529 or (413) 565-1376 fax-(413) 567-8345 From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Thu Apr 14 08:45:37 2005 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] LexisNexis responds to request for direct linking... In-Reply-To: <8bd42b27050413162518bbe4bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bd42b27050413162518bbe4bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <425E65F1.9080602@ohiolink.edu> I think that's about the same response I got from them on this subject two or three years ago. IIRC, Ex Libris was testing SFX five years ago, and D-Lib published one of the first OpenURL papers (maybe *the* first? - ) over four years ago. The need to support article-level linking existed well before that; this was just a framework to hang it on. Full text vendors who really make this a high priority got it done long ago. Thomas Dowling tdowling@ohiolink.edu > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dear Mr. Wuolu, > > Thank you for your note. Rest assured that this is a very high > priority within the academic group of LexisNexis and we are working on > developing the capabilities that you request. Unfortunately, as is the > case within many large operations, it takes time to both fund and > implement such changes to a system. We are very aware that user > expectations are everchanging and that we need to respond to these > issues. > From cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca Thu Apr 14 10:08:32 2005 From: cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Gray) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] more on remote authentication issue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sandra, I'm repeating myself, I know, but don't give up on running EZProxy on AIX until you've talked with Chris Zagar at Useful Utilities. He monitors the EZProxy mailing list and he has on several occasions responded to my questions with prompt, individualized, and effective help. Chris "The brain is a wonderful organ. It starts working the moment you get up in the morning and does not stop until you get into the office." -Robert Frost On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Sandra Cahillane wrote: > > > > > Thank you to all who responded so far. This is very helpful. > > Our first choice is to use ezproxy. It sounds like we could do that on a > separate machine with linux. The only problem is the pc we use. Our old > server is an option but would it really be reliable enough to convert to > the proxy given that we just replaced it with the brand-new server? It is > also an IBM but probably between 7 and 8 years old. Is it worth it to try > and keep it in service? Or should I try and wrangle a newer, older pc out > of our IT department (no offense to IT people, but I'm guessing you > propably know how this goes)? > > I'm including my first message below for those of you who may not have seen > it: > > "We just purchased a lovely, new IBM server with AIX on it. Sadly, ezproxy > no longer maintains software for this platform. We would very much like to > be our own proxy server for remote authentication. I would love any and > all ideas and suggestions (or workarounds for ezproxy) that people could > suggest as possible solutions for remote authentication for a unix box for > a non-programmer systems administrator. > > I am familiar with cgi-scripts. Would a cgi-script work for remote access? > Primarily what I want is a seamless, one click authentication process for > users that will direct them to the correct page (database listing or remote > access logon page) depending on whether they are on-campus or off." > > Thanks again, > > Sandy Cahillane > Systems and Reference Librarian > Bay Path College > Hatch Library > 588 Longmeadow Street > Longmeadow, MA 01106 > (413) 567-4529 or (413) 565-1376 > fax-(413) 567-8345 > > From drostj at uah.edu Thu Apr 14 10:25:20 2005 From: drostj at uah.edu (Jack Drost) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] more on remote authentication issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001b01c540fd$ccd805a0$4438e592@safeguard.uah.edu> We are running ezproxy on a Pentium IV with a 700MHz processor and 256MB of memory and a linux operating system and it gets a lot of use. Ezproxy is all that is running on the machine and it serves us well. Ezproxy does not require a lot of resources to run. Jack Drost Systems Librarian UAH Salmon Library 824-7407 drostj@uah.edu -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Cahillane Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:38 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] more on remote authentication issue Thank you to all who responded so far. This is very helpful. Our first choice is to use ezproxy. It sounds like we could do that on a separate machine with linux. The only problem is the pc we use. Our old server is an option but would it really be reliable enough to convert to the proxy given that we just replaced it with the brand-new server? It is also an IBM but probably between 7 and 8 years old. Is it worth it to try and keep it in service? Or should I try and wrangle a newer, older pc out of our IT department (no offense to IT people, but I'm guessing you propably know how this goes)? I'm including my first message below for those of you who may not have seen it: "We just purchased a lovely, new IBM server with AIX on it. Sadly, ezproxy no longer maintains software for this platform. We would very much like to be our own proxy server for remote authentication. I would love any and all ideas and suggestions (or workarounds for ezproxy) that people could suggest as possible solutions for remote authentication for a unix box for a non-programmer systems administrator. I am familiar with cgi-scripts. Would a cgi-script work for remote access? Primarily what I want is a seamless, one click authentication process for users that will direct them to the correct page (database listing or remote access logon page) depending on whether they are on-campus or off." Thanks again, Sandy Cahillane Systems and Reference Librarian Bay Path College Hatch Library 588 Longmeadow Street Longmeadow, MA 01106 (413) 567-4529 or (413) 565-1376 fax-(413) 567-8345 From mshochet at ubalt.edu Thu Apr 14 11:18:00 2005 From: mshochet at ubalt.edu (Michael Shochet) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] opacs for children Message-ID: A few years ago at an American Libraries Association/Canadian Libraries Association joint conference I saw a prof. Jamshid Beheshti of McGill University talk about work he was doing on designing interfaces for children. His worked focused on the design of "portal" for children, but I would think his research would be applicable to OPAC design as well. He has a vitae, which includes citations of articles he has authored on designing web interfaces for children, available online: http://www.gslis.mcgill.ca/Beheshti_CV.htm Michael Shochet Systems/Reference Librarian Langsdale Library, University of Baltimore http://langsdale.ubalt.edu/ mshochet@ubalt.edu 410-837-4277 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Janine Bendel Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:28 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] opacs for children Dear Ms. and Mr., I?m studying library science in berlin (germany) and at the moment I?m writing my master thesis with the topic "opac?s for children". My aim is an international comparison and as a basement I chose the "Best- Practice-Recherche" (Bertelsmann) with the following countries: USA, England, Denmark, Finland and Singapore. Till now I found predominant eldery literature about these topic (f.e. "B?cherschatz" in Hamburg; formerly studies: P. Solomon, V. Walter), not so much in the bibliographies (LISA, LiLi) but also some interesting new projects in the internet (f.e. in Maryland and Denmark). I?ve also talked with many librarians and next I?ll contact some software companies. Can anybody give me some more advices or do you know persons to talk to for me? Thank you! Yours sincerely Janine Bendel ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 From leo at leoklein.com Thu Apr 14 13:06:46 2005 From: leo at leoklein.com (Leo Robert Klein) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: LexisNexis responds to request for direct linking... In-Reply-To: <425E65F1.9080602@ohiolink.edu> References: <425E65F1.9080602@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <49441.131.193.221.97.1113498406.squirrel@webmail4.pair.com> Person from LN wroteth: "We are very aware that user expectations are everchanging..." That did seem a bit of a stretch to me. I spose they want to hold back their material so that you can first experience the wonders of their search interface. That alone will make anything you eventually dig up a thousand times more valueable. It's tough love. LEO -- ------------- Leo Robert Klein www.leoklein.com On Thu, April 14, 2005 7:46 am, Thomas Dowling said: > I think that's about the same response I got from them on this subject > two or three years ago. > > IIRC, Ex Libris was testing SFX five years ago, and D-Lib published one > of the first OpenURL papers (maybe *the* first? - > ) over four years ago. > The need to support article-level linking existed well before that; > this was just a framework to hang it on. Full text vendors who really > make this a high priority got it done long ago. > > > Thomas Dowling > tdowling@ohiolink.edu > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Dear Mr. Wuolu, >> >> Thank you for your note. Rest assured that this is a very high >> priority within the academic group of LexisNexis and we are working on >> developing the capabilities that you request. Unfortunately, as is the >> case within many large operations, it takes time to both fund and >> implement such changes to a system. We are very aware that user >> expectations are everchanging and that we need to respond to these >> issues. >> From CreechA at cwu.EDU Thu Apr 14 14:43:58 2005 From: CreechA at cwu.EDU (Anna Creech) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] LexisNexis responds to request for direct linking... Message-ID: I hate to rain on your parade, but I doubt that Lexis Nexis will actually implement some sort of OpenURL or direct linking. I asked about it two years ago and was told that their database infrastructure couldn't support that level of linking. In addition, since libraries are such a small portion of their customer base, they had little incentive to invest in the technology and labor. Anna ----------------------------------- Anna L. Creech, MLS Serials & Electronic Resources Librarian Central Washington University Serials Department - Library 400 E. University Way Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548 (509) 963-1718 From HYu3 at exchange.calstatela.edu Thu Apr 14 15:20:45 2005 From: HYu3 at exchange.calstatela.edu (Yu, Holly) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:49 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: opacs for children Message-ID: <86F2555BA9B049448F4CF1C22D833F2507B784BD@exchange.calstatela.edu> You can find Jamshid's presentation at the ALA/CLA joint conference 2003 at http://www.calstatela.edu/library/ALA/ala-claOPAC.htm You can also find other presentations from the same conference session on OPAC interface design on this page. Holly Yu Library Web Administrator / Reference Librarian University Library California State University, Los Angeles 5151 State University Dr. Los Angeles, CA 90032 Tel: (323) 343-4993 Fax: (323) 343-5600 Email: hyu3@calstatela.edu -----Original Message----- From: Michael Shochet [mailto:mshochet@ubalt.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:22 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: opacs for children A few years ago at an American Libraries Association/Canadian Libraries Association joint conference I saw a prof. Jamshid Beheshti of McGill University talk about work he was doing on designing interfaces for children. His worked focused on the design of "portal" for children, but I would think his research would be applicable to OPAC design as well. He has a vitae, which includes citations of articles he has authored on designing web interfaces for children, available online: http://www.gslis.mcgill.ca/Beheshti_CV.htm Michael Shochet Systems/Reference Librarian Langsdale Library, University of Baltimore http://langsdale.ubalt.edu/ mshochet@ubalt.edu 410-837-4277 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Janine Bendel Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:28 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] opacs for children Dear Ms. and Mr., I´m studying library science in berlin (germany) and at the moment I´m writing my master thesis with the topic "opac´s for children". My aim is an international comparison and as a basement I chose the "Best- Practice-Recherche" (Bertelsmann) with the following countries: USA, England, Denmark, Finland and Singapore. Till now I found predominant eldery literature about these topic (f.e. "Bücherschatz" in Hamburg; formerly studies: P. Solomon, V. Walter), not so much in the bibliographies (LISA, LiLi) but also some interesting new projects in the internet (f.e. in Maryland and Denmark). I´ve also talked with many librarians and next I´ll contact some software companies. Can anybody give me some more advices or do you know persons to talk to for me? Thank you! Yours sincerely Janine Bendel ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From mike.beccaria at pictometry.com Sat Apr 16 07:45:37 2005 From: mike.beccaria at pictometry.com (Mike Beccaria) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:50 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: MS Access data page Message-ID: I'm not sure as to the original message posted on this, but I will reply to the reply;) Regarding accessing databases from web pages etc., this is not hard to do using a scripting language (as mentioned below). I've done it in vbscript and php. I know it can be done with almost all of the others. There are MANY step by step tutorials on the web that can walk you through it. A google search for your language of choice (vbscript, php, perl, ASP, etc.) and "access database" will yield the results you are looking for. If you know next to nothing about scripting/programming (but do know about making web pages, html, etc.), I would think you could make it happen in about a single day of work and learning. I'm not a expert programmer, but I have gone through what you are about to do. If you need any specific help on the problem, I would be happy to help out off list. Just send me an email:-) Mike -----Original Message----- From: A. Bullen [mailto:abullen@ameritech.net] Sent: Sat 4/16/2005 2:07 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Cc: Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: MS Access data page Liz, I'm probably going about this all wrong, but this is the only option I have right now. We have an MS Access database which we'd like to be able to query (but not update) via the Web. I've been able to build a data access page in Access, but it insists on keeping the path what I originally gave it (a mapped drive), and will not accept a URL. However, most people in the college do not have this drive mapped, nor do they have access to the server. However, the file resides on a publicly accessible Web server. I feel like I'm so close to making it work, but am not quite there. I do not know ASP so that's not an option right now. Does anyone have a suggestion? I am sorry to tell you, but the only non-ASP way *I* know how to do this is through either an ODBC connection (or JDBC, if you're a Java-ite) or something like Perl's DBI system. So, in Perl (ActiveState, on a Win2k server, using ODBC): 1.) You initalize/open the connection-- use Win32::ODBC; my($DSN) = "digitize"; my($db1) = new Win32::ODBC($DSN) || die qq(Cannot open ODBC connection to "$DSN"), Win32::ODBC::Error, "\n"; 2.) You query the database through a SQL query, passed through ODBC-- $query = "SELECT * FROM Digitize WHERE LastName=\'$lastnamequery\' ORDER BY LastName"; $db1->Sql($query); 3.) Read the results into variables-- while ($db1->FetchRow()) { my(%data1) = $db1->DataHash; $itemnumber = $data1{'ItemNumber'}; $typeoffile = $data1{'TypeOfFile'}; $thumbfilename = $data1{'FileName'}; $creator1 = $data1{'Creator1'}; $creator2 = $data1{'Creator2'}; $creator3 = $data1{'Creator3'}; etc. etc. 4.) Display the newly-filled-in variables into a templated HTML form: print "Content-type: text/html\n\n"; print < IDA Records beginning with the letter $letter

All IDA Records Beginning with the Letter $letter

..

$imagesourceurl

$locationstr

Detailed Record
Record No. $itemnumber
etc. etc. Poof! Insta-page. Please feel free to contact me off-list if you want to try a Perl solution and want more shiny happy code. Andy Bullen Digital Plumber, Illinois State Library From eric at openly.com Sat Apr 16 12:47:06 2005 From: eric at openly.com (Eric Hellman) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:50 2005 Subject: OpenURL Standard Z39.88 - Approved Message-ID: It's been a long time, but this is good news. At 4:48 PM -0400 4/14/05, Pat Harris wrote: >Dear members, >You'll want to mark this day on your calendar: >The OpenURL standard, NISO Z39.88 - 2004 The OpenURL Framework for >Context-Sensitive Services, >has been approved by the NISO Members and is available now for free >download from the NISO site: >http://www.niso.org/standards/index.htm >ANSI approval is pending. In light of the importance of this >standard to the community we are making this near-final version >available. > >Congratulations, and thanks, to all the members of Committee AX for >all their hard work to craft and complete this standard. >Eric F. Van de Velde, Chairperson of Committee AX (California >Institute of Technology) >Ann Apps (MIMAS-Manchester Computing University of Manchester) >Oren Beit-Arie (ExLibris USA, Inc.) >Karim Boughida (Getty Research Institute) >Karen Coyle (California Digital Library, University of California, retired) >Todd Fegan (ProQuest Information and Learning) >Tony Hammond (Nature Publishing) >Eric Hellman (Openly Informatics, Inc.) >Mike Hoover (ProQuest Information and Learning) >Lou Knecht (National Library of Medicine) >Larry Lannom [Corporation for National Research Initiatives (CNRI)] >Clifford Morgan, NISO SDC Liaison to SC AX (John Wiley & Sons Ltd.) >Mark H. Needleman (SIRSI Corporation) >Eamonn Neylon (Manifest Solutions) >Philip Norman (OCLC, Inc.) >Oliver Pesch (EBSCO Information Services) >Harry Samuels (Endeavor Information Systems, Inc.) >Herbert Van de Sompel (Los Alamos National Laboratory) > > > > >************************************ >Pat Harris >Executive Director >NISO >4733 Bethesda Avenue, Suite 300 >Bethesda, MD 20814 USA >T: 301-654-2512 ** Direct line: 301-654-1474** Mobile: 202-258-3296 >Fax: 301-654-1721 ** Email: pharris@niso.org >www.niso.org -- Eric Hellman, President Openly Informatics, Inc. eric@openly.com 2 Broad St., 2nd Floor tel 1-973-509-7800 fax 1-734-468-6216 Bloomfield, NJ 07003 http://www.openly.com/1cate/ 1 Click Access To Everything From kgs at bluehighways.com Sat Apr 16 16:31:19 2005 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:50 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] OpenURL Standard Z39.88 - Approved In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050416203120.5B3AE25535@frontend3.messagingengine.com> Interesting. I read on the site, "The proposed OpenURL standard is syntax to create web-transportable packages of metadata and/or identifiers about an information object. Such packages are at the core of context-sensitive or open link technology, which has recently become available in scholarly information systems. By standardizing the syntax, we will enable many other innovative user-specific services in this and other information fields." Do we have three or four "show me" examples to explain this to people unfamiliar with the standard? Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com From eric at openly.com Sat Apr 16 18:10:41 2005 From: eric at openly.com (Eric Hellman) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:50 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: OpenURL Standard Z39.88 - Approved In-Reply-To: <20050416203120.5B3AE25535@frontend3.messagingengine.com> References: <20050416203120.5B3AE25535@frontend3.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: Most people on the list are probably familiar with the use of OpenURL to link to full-text journal articles in libraries. The just-approved OpenURL NISO (and thus ANSI) Standard does the following 1. it cleans up some loose ends for the journal article and book linking applications (versioning and identification, primarily). 2. it adds metadata sets to enable open linking for patents, dissertations and "dublin core" objects. so now you can use openurl to link to Abraham Lincoln's patent, Stephen Hawking's PH.D Thesis, and other stuff. 3. it provides machinery that enables communities to define extensions for new types of subject matter. This last is most needing of a "show me" examples. example areas where open linking could prove useful - links to musical works and performances - links to stock information - links to legal cases - links to biological organisms - links to scriptural passages - links to major league baseball players but I'm not holding my breath. At 1:35 PM -0700 4/16/05, K.G. Schneider wrote: >Interesting. I read on the site, "The proposed OpenURL standard is syntax to >create web-transportable packages of metadata and/or identifiers about an >information object. Such packages are at the core of context-sensitive or >open link technology, which has recently become available in scholarly >information systems. By standardizing the syntax, we will enable many other >innovative user-specific services in this and other information fields." > >Do we have three or four "show me" examples to explain this to people >unfamiliar with the standard? > >Karen G. Schneider >kgs@bluehighways.com -- Eric Hellman, President Openly Informatics, Inc. eric@openly.com 2 Broad St., 2nd Floor tel 1-973-509-7800 fax 1-734-468-6216 Bloomfield, NJ 07003 http://www.openly.com/1cate/ 1 Click Access To Everything From jcrockett at ureach.com Sat Apr 16 19:17:41 2005 From: jcrockett at ureach.com (J Crockett) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:50 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] MS Access data page Message-ID: <000301c542da$7d230d00$0502a8c0@BAYCT> Liz, If the publicly accessible Web server, where the file resides, has FrontPage extensions and you have Microsoft FrontPage installed on your computer, there are wizards in FrontPage that will create the database results ASP Pages for you. Your database file must be in a "fpdb" directory on the Web server. Open a new page in your FrontPage, click "Insert" - "Database" - "Results", and the wizard will open to create a connection to the database. That will walk you through creating the query you want, or you can paste the SQL code for the query from MSAcccess as a custom query in the wizard. More customization is possible than is apparent. Play around with it and you'll find other solutions. In the process, you could learn some ASP from examining the page source. Joleen -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of LizPerlman.7901733@bloglines.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:47 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] MS Access data page I'm probably going about this all wrong, but this is the only option I have right now. We have an MS Access database which we'd like to be able to query (but not update) via the Web. I've been able to build a data access page in Access, but it insists on keeping the path what I originally gave it (a mapped drive), and will not accept a URL. However, most people in the college do not have this drive mapped, nor do they have access to the server. However, the file resides on a publicly accessible Web server. I feel like I'm so close to making it work, but am not quite there. I do not know ASP so that's not an option right now. Does anyone have a suggestion? Liz Perlman, MSLIS Systems Librarian Specker Memorial Library Calumet College of St. Joseph 2400 New York Avenue Whiting, IN 46394 219-473-4374 (office) 219-473-4259 (fax) eperlman@ccsj.edu From roy.tennant at ucop.edu Thu Apr 21 10:04:53 2005 From: roy.tennant at ucop.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: Google Maps UK Message-ID: For those of you who can't believe that Heathrow Airport is so far out of London central, here is proof: You guessed it, as seen on Peter Scott's Library Blog , Google Maps UK is now available. I can hardly wait for Google Maps Crete. Roy From lbell927 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 21 10:07:17 2005 From: lbell927 at yahoo.com (Lori Bell) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: African American Genealogy Basics with the Newberry Library Message-ID: <20050421140717.94347.qmail@web52807.mail.yahoo.com> Thursday, April 21, 2005 beginning at 3:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, 2:00 Central, 1:00 Mountain, Noon Pacific, and 7:00 p.m. GMT: African-American Genealogy Basics Researching African-American ancestors poses a unique set of problems for family historians. Jack Simpson, genealogy curator at the Newberry Library in Chicago, will give an overview of genealogy research techniques with a focus on African-American sources. The talk will cover basic genealogy sources, such as the U. S. census and vital records. It will also examine more advanced sources, such as the records of the Freedmen’s Bureau. Jack Simpson is the Curator of Local and Family History at the Newberry Library in Chicago. Before coming to the Newberry, he worked at The Bentley Historical Library at the University of Michigan and the Reuther Library at Wayne State University in Detroit. In addition to his work as a reference librarian, Jack teaches several seminars in genealogy at the Newberry Library. To attend go to http://www.tcconference.com/lib/?auditorium&nopass_field=1 type your name and click enter to go into the online auditorium. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From dempseyl at oclc.org Thu Apr 21 10:40:42 2005 From: dempseyl at oclc.org (Dempsey,Lorcan) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Google Maps UK Message-ID: <632EDB1E16D4E041A0EF1DB3ADF67B2B01295BC0@OAEXCH1SERVER.oa.oclc.org> We were looking at this yesterday .. Currently the Google Maps 'universe' has UK/Ireland and North America in it. It is a slightly surreal experience 'spinning the globe' (you can 'drag' all the way around) and seeing large empty spaces with the small Islands of the North Atlantic (UK/Ireland) and the large North America as the only landing points. Columbus would hit North America by sailing in either direction from the UK ;-) The combination of Google Maps and Google Local is pretty impressive. You can do a variety of types of searches where you have incomplete information and be offered potential locations. For example a search on 'lorcan' and 'columbus' will give you OCLC pinpointed on the map. Not the most useful search maybe ;-) but you get the idea ... A search on 'strawberry cake' and 'Columbus' will show you the name and location of the couple of branches of the local bakery whose specialty this is (albeit among other results). It also allows you to take a URL for your position at any stage. So the above is http://maps.google.com/maps?q=lorcan+columbus&ll=40.098700,-83.124700&sp n=0.432617,0.669499&hl=en We live south of the Park of Roses in Columbus - I started with a broader map of columbus and 'dragged/zoomed' there and asked for a url: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=columbus+oh+43214&ll=40.040344,-83.022920& spn=0.013519,0.020922&hl=en See what I mean about Columbus at: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.625000,-38.411526&spn=56.875000,116.31 3039&hl=en. If you try to get driving instructions from the US to the UK though it returns a message that it cannot do this for you ...... ;-) Check out http://www.paulrademacher.com/housing/ for an interesting 'blend' of services .... Clearly, this is suggestive of other services including library services .... Lorcan Lorcan Dempsey [http://orweblog.oclc.org] OCLC Research [http://www.oclc.org/research/] -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Roy Tennant Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Google Maps UK For those of you who can't believe that Heathrow Airport is so far out of London central, here is proof: You guessed it, as seen on Peter Scott's Library Blog , Google Maps UK is now available. I can hardly wait for Google Maps Crete. Roy From scott at lights.com Thu Apr 21 11:00:33 2005 From: scott at lights.com (Peter Scott) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Google Maps UK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The URLs that this creates are horribly long and not great for e-mail. I would suggest that when quoting them you use a URL shortening service. There is a bunch of them at: http://www.lights.com/weblogs/shorterurls.html I like TinyURL.com From kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us Thu Apr 21 11:10:55 2005 From: kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us (Karen Davis) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: Database pages- how to Message-ID: <200504211010.AA11731052@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> I'm creating a set of pages for access to our online subscription databases and would be interested in seeing how others organized their pages. please note: I don't do database programming, so I'm presently limited in terms of what I can do. Two examples I'm presently looking at are: http://www.wcpl.lib.oh.us/databases/index.htm and http://www.win.org/library/lanmenu/ TIA for sharing! -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From bernies at uillinois.edu Thu Apr 21 11:40:08 2005 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: Google Print article in MIT magazine Message-ID: "Does Google's plan to digitize millions of print books spell the death of libraries-or their rebirth?" Roush, Wade. The Infinite Library. Technology Review. May 2005. http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/05/05/issue/feature_library.asp Technology Review is described as "MIT's magazine of innovation". Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant, ILCSO University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 616 E. Green Street, Suite 213 Champaign, IL 61820 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 265-0454 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From junus at mail.lib.msu.edu Thu Apr 21 11:44:56 2005 From: junus at mail.lib.msu.edu (Junus, Ranti) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Google Maps UK Message-ID: <4AA263AB78B5394A8277D4C2A0EE490E01BBC279@MAINLIB12.lib.msu.edu> Looking at the URLs given on this thread, I wonder if I can start using latitude/longitude as my work address, even down to the exact location of my cubicle. Or we can utilize this GIS stuff to pin point public PCs location, a book shelf or book location. I'd very much like that idea. GIS is a cool stuff. ranti. -- Ranti Junus - Systems 100 Main Library W441 Michigan State University East Lansing, MI 48824, USA +1.517.432.6123 ext. 231 +1.517.432.8374 (fax) From mcreech at jhu.edu Thu Apr 21 11:51:13 2005 From: mcreech at jhu.edu (Michael Creech) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Google Maps UK Message-ID: Another mapping tool that has good coverage of the UK and mainland Europe is MultiMap.com (http://www.multimap.com/). It includes a good bit of information about the map and local area for which you searched. Maybe Google will include more of this type of information as a part of its service when Google Maps is no longer a beta service. Mike -- Mike Creech, MILS Web Development Coordinator The Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University 410.516.0632 (p) 410.516.5339 (f) >>> "Dempsey,Lorcan" 04/21/05 10:42 AM >>> We were looking at this yesterday .. Currently the Google Maps 'universe' has UK/Ireland and North America in it. It is a slightly surreal experience 'spinning the globe' (you can 'drag' all the way around) and seeing large empty spaces with the small Islands of the North Atlantic (UK/Ireland) and the large North America as the only landing points. Columbus would hit North America by sailing in either direction from the UK ;-) The combination of Google Maps and Google Local is pretty impressive. You can do a variety of types of searches where you have incomplete information and be offered potential locations. For example a search on 'lorcan' and 'columbus' will give you OCLC pinpointed on the map. Not the most useful search maybe ;-) but you get the idea ... A search on 'strawberry cake' and 'Columbus' will show you the name and location of the couple of branches of the local bakery whose specialty this is (albeit among other results). It also allows you to take a URL for your position at any stage. So the above is http://maps.google.com/maps?q=lorcan+columbus&ll=40.098700,-83.124700&sp n=0.432617,0.669499&hl=en We live south of the Park of Roses in Columbus - I started with a broader map of columbus and 'dragged/zoomed' there and asked for a url: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=columbus+oh+43214&ll=40.040344,-83.022920& spn=0.013519,0.020922&hl=en See what I mean about Columbus at: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.625000,-38.411526&spn=56.875000,116.31 3039&hl=en. If you try to get driving instructions from the US to the UK though it returns a message that it cannot do this for you ...... ;-) Check out http://www.paulrademacher.com/housing/ for an interesting 'blend' of services .... Clearly, this is suggestive of other services including library services .... Lorcan Lorcan Dempsey [http://orweblog.oclc.org] OCLC Research [http://www.oclc.org/research/] -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Roy Tennant Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Google Maps UK For those of you who can't believe that Heathrow Airport is so far out of London central, here is proof: You guessed it, as seen on Peter Scott's Library Blog , Google Maps UK is now available. I can hardly wait for Google Maps Crete. Roy From kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us Thu Apr 21 12:01:35 2005 From: kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us (Karen Davis) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: learning db programming- tips Message-ID: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Andrew Darby wrote: >Both are now running off one MySQL database, and we connect with PHP. I >know you said you didn't do db programming, but it is the best way to >handle this sort of thing, and isn't as hard as it may seem at first >blush . . . . Andrew (or anyone else who wants to chime in): more and more I'm resigned to having to learn db programming, but I'm dumb as dirt about it! Could you please give me some tips on how to get started? What software do I need? (I use DW MX 2004 to create web pages) -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From roy.tennant at ucop.edu Thu Apr 21 12:16:13 2005 From: roy.tennant at ucop.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] learning db programming- tips In-Reply-To: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: I realize the message below may spawn a string of messages from LAMP (linux, apache, mysql, php or other favorite 'p' language - perl, python) adherents, but I wanted to chime in and say that there is still a lot to be said for exposing "desktop" databases on the web -- for example, FileMaker Pro. These can be dead easy to get going and provide a familiar windowed interface to managing the database. Whereas many people would run screaming into the night when faced with raw MySQL or even MySQL front-ends like phpMyAdmin, this may provide a useable solution. In other words, solve simple problems simply, and only get more complex as your needs demand. Roy On Apr 21, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Karen Davis wrote: > Andrew Darby wrote: >> Both are now running off one MySQL database, and we connect with PHP. >> I >> know you said you didn't do db programming, but it is the best way to >> handle this sort of thing, and isn't as hard as it may seem at first >> blush . . . . > > > Andrew (or anyone else who wants to chime in): > more and more I'm resigned to having to learn db programming, but I'm > dumb as dirt about it! > Could you please give me some tips on how to get started? What > software do I need? (I use DW MX 2004 to create web pages) > > > -- > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Karen Davis, Coordinator > Center for Community Networking & > Web Administrator > Lawrence Public Library > 707 Vermont Street > Lawrence, KS 66044 > 785.843.3833 ext. 104 > > -- > > From wsgrah at wm.edu Thu Apr 21 12:21:49 2005 From: wsgrah at wm.edu (Wayne Graham) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] learning db programming- tips In-Reply-To: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: <4267D31D.8000203@wm.edu> Without knowing your programming background, here are a few tips to get started: Get a Safari account (http://safari.oreilly.com/). There are a lot of books and other resources in there that will help you get started and answer very advanced questions. My favorite IDE for database programming is Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org) with the MyEclipse plugin (http://www.myeclipseide.com). I also like the Azzuri Clay plugin for ER modeling (http://www.azzurri.jp/en/software/clay/). I've also used this for data modeling: http://www.utexas.edu/its/windows/database/datamodeling/ HTH, Wayne Karen Davis wrote: > Andrew Darby wrote: > >>Both are now running off one MySQL database, and we connect with PHP. I >>know you said you didn't do db programming, but it is the best way to >>handle this sort of thing, and isn't as hard as it may seem at first >>blush . . . . > > > > Andrew (or anyone else who wants to chime in): > more and more I'm resigned to having to learn db programming, but I'm dumb as dirt about it! > Could you please give me some tips on how to get started? What software do I need? (I use DW MX 2004 to create web pages) > > > -- > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Karen Davis, Coordinator > Center for Community Networking & > Web Administrator > Lawrence Public Library > 707 Vermont Street > Lawrence, KS 66044 > 785.843.3833 ext. 104 > > -- > -- Wayne Graham Earl Gregg Swem Library College of William and Mary PO Box 8794 757.221.3112 http://swem.wm.edu/blogs/waynegraham From LScritch at MAIL.co.washoe.nv.us Thu Apr 21 12:28:52 2005 From: LScritch at MAIL.co.washoe.nv.us (Scritchfield, Larry) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] learning db programming- tips Message-ID: <52D1E8A877040744B1AA562F4AD9192B10F23E1A@mail.co.washoe.nv.us> If you do feel like getting into MySQL, Understanding SQL by Martin Gruber (Sybex 1990) is a good introduction. It teaches the down and dirty command line interface, but the knowledge is portable to lots of SQL-like databases. Larry Scritchfield lscritch@mail.co.washoe.nv.us Internet Services Librarian (775) 327-8349 Washoe County Library System www.washoe.lib.nv.us -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Karen Davis Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:03 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] learning db programming- tips Andrew Darby wrote: >Both are now running off one MySQL database, and we connect with PHP. I >know you said you didn't do db programming, but it is the best way to >handle this sort of thing, and isn't as hard as it may seem at first >blush . . . . Andrew (or anyone else who wants to chime in): more and more I'm resigned to having to learn db programming, but I'm dumb as dirt about it! Could you please give me some tips on how to get started? What software do I need? (I use DW MX 2004 to create web pages) -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From randy.norwood at ttu.edu Thu Apr 21 12:43:24 2005 From: randy.norwood at ttu.edu (Randy Norwood) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] learning db programming- tips In-Reply-To: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: I'm partial to Perl or PHP with a MySQL database, but since you're using Dreamweaver, you might consider another Macromedia product, Cold Fusion, for the application layer (instead of Perl/PHP/ASP). http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/ I had a week long training course in CF about 4 years ago, and found that it's not my cup of tea-- I preferred not working with HTML-like tags to do everything. But CF received a lot of positive comments from developers in a recent Slashdot article on J2EE development, Whatever software you choose, try to set up a complete database/application/website environment on your PC or laptop. It makes development quicker and easier, and less likely to cause problems for existing production apps on a server. On 04/21/05 11:03 AM, "Karen Davis" wrote: > Andrew Darby wrote: >> Both are now running off one MySQL database, and we connect with PHP. I >> know you said you didn't do db programming, but it is the best way to >> handle this sort of thing, and isn't as hard as it may seem at first >> blush . . . . > > > Andrew (or anyone else who wants to chime in): > more and more I'm resigned to having to learn db programming, but I'm dumb as > dirt about it! > Could you please give me some tips on how to get started? What software do I > need? (I use DW MX 2004 to create web pages) > > > -- > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Karen Davis, Coordinator > Center for Community Networking & > Web Administrator > Lawrence Public Library > 707 Vermont Street > Lawrence, KS 66044 > 785.843.3833 ext. 104 > > -- > From cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca Thu Apr 21 12:48:48 2005 From: cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Gray) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: learning db programming- tips In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree that a desktop db is a good place to start learning and I'm a big advocate of Microsoft Access (although not generally a Microsoft advocate). There is an excellent, clear, and approachable introductory book by Mark Whitehorn and Bill Marklyn called "Inside Relational Databases" and it uses Access as a teaching tool for non-specialists. Even if you don't use Access this is a great book to start with. Chris "The brain is a wonderful organ. It starts working the moment you get up in the morning and does not stop until you get into the office." -Robert Frost On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Roy Tennant wrote: > I realize the message below may spawn a string of messages from LAMP > (linux, apache, mysql, php or other favorite 'p' language - perl, > python) adherents, but I wanted to chime in and say that there is still > a lot to be said for exposing "desktop" databases on the web -- for > example, FileMaker Pro. These can be dead easy to get going and provide > a familiar windowed interface to managing the database. Whereas many > people would run screaming into the night when faced with raw MySQL or > even MySQL front-ends like phpMyAdmin, this may provide a useable > solution. In other words, solve simple problems simply, and only get > more complex as your needs demand. > Roy > > On Apr 21, 2005, at 9:03 AM, Karen Davis wrote: > > > Andrew Darby wrote: > >> Both are now running off one MySQL database, and we connect with PHP. > >> I > >> know you said you didn't do db programming, but it is the best way to > >> handle this sort of thing, and isn't as hard as it may seem at first > >> blush . . . . > > > > > > Andrew (or anyone else who wants to chime in): > > more and more I'm resigned to having to learn db programming, but I'm > > dumb as dirt about it! > > Could you please give me some tips on how to get started? What > > software do I need? (I use DW MX 2004 to create web pages) > > > > > > -- > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Karen Davis, Coordinator > > Center for Community Networking & > > Web Administrator > > Lawrence Public Library > > 707 Vermont Street > > Lawrence, KS 66044 > > 785.843.3833 ext. 104 > > > > -- > > > > > > From stephen_meyer at ncsu.edu Thu Apr 21 12:49:14 2005 From: stephen_meyer at ncsu.edu (Stephen Meyer) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] learning db programming- tips In-Reply-To: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: <4267D98A.5000809@ncsu.edu> If starting with a knowledge of HTML (and guessing at the database and scripting capabilities available to you), I would recommend the O'Reilly book Web database applications with PHP and MySQL by Hugh E. Williams and David Lane. It will provide an overview of both PHP and MySQL and how they are integrated with a server in a web environment. The book is based on an example/tutorial model. After that your ready reference sources might be things like http://php.net/ and http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/index.html. These were some of the main resources that got me up and running. -steve Karen Davis wrote: > Andrew Darby wrote: > >>Both are now running off one MySQL database, and we connect with PHP. I >>know you said you didn't do db programming, but it is the best way to >>handle this sort of thing, and isn't as hard as it may seem at first >>blush . . . . > > > > Andrew (or anyone else who wants to chime in): > more and more I'm resigned to having to learn db programming, but I'm dumb as dirt about it! > Could you please give me some tips on how to get started? What software do I need? (I use DW MX 2004 to create web pages) > > > -- > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Karen Davis, Coordinator > Center for Community Networking & > Web Administrator > Lawrence Public Library > 707 Vermont Street > Lawrence, KS 66044 > 785.843.3833 ext. 104 > > -- > > -- _____________________________________________ Stephen Meyer NCSU Libraries Fellow North Carolina State University Home Dept: Textiles Project Dept: Systems Phone: 919.513.3862 Phone: 919.515.7694 Fax: 919.515.3926 Fax: 919.513.3330 stephen_meyer@ncsu.edu _____________________________________________ From abullen at ameritech.net Thu Apr 21 12:58:06 2005 From: abullen at ameritech.net (A. Bullen) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] learning db programming- tips In-Reply-To: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: <4267DB9E.7050304@ameritech.net> Karen, If you'd like actual ActiveState Perl code and step by step instructions for how to connect an Access db to a Win2K server, please let me know. I will walk you through the steps. Andrew Bullen Illinois State Library From JOHNMA at ci.commerce.ca.us Thu Apr 21 13:13:00 2005 From: JOHNMA at ci.commerce.ca.us (JOHN MARQUETTE) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Google Maps UK Message-ID: <8F2F9EFDDDA6524AA5ACB4B8995A46FAD89599@xchange.ci.commerce.ca.us> IMHO, Google will just buy MultiMap. Look what they did with KeyHole. (Opinions expressed are my own and not representative of the City of Commerce, the County of Los Angeles, or the State of California.) John Marquette City of Commerce Public Library Commerce, CA 90040 -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Michael Creech Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Google Maps UK Another mapping tool that has good coverage of the UK and mainland Europe is MultiMap.com (http://www.multimap.com/). It includes a good bit of information about the map and local area for which you searched. Maybe Google will include more of this type of information as a part of its service when Google Maps is no longer a beta service. Mike -- Mike Creech, MILS Web Development Coordinator The Sheridan Libraries Johns Hopkins University 410.516.0632 (p) 410.516.5339 (f) >>> "Dempsey,Lorcan" 04/21/05 10:42 AM >>> We were looking at this yesterday .. Currently the Google Maps 'universe' has UK/Ireland and North America in it. It is a slightly surreal experience 'spinning the globe' (you can 'drag' all the way around) and seeing large empty spaces with the small Islands of the North Atlantic (UK/Ireland) and the large North America as the only landing points. Columbus would hit North America by sailing in either direction from the UK ;-) The combination of Google Maps and Google Local is pretty impressive. You can do a variety of types of searches where you have incomplete information and be offered potential locations. For example a search on 'lorcan' and 'columbus' will give you OCLC pinpointed on the map. Not the most useful search maybe ;-) but you get the idea ... A search on 'strawberry cake' and 'Columbus' will show you the name and location of the couple of branches of the local bakery whose specialty this is (albeit among other results). It also allows you to take a URL for your position at any stage. So the above is http://maps.google.com/maps?q=lorcan+columbus&ll=40.098700,-83.124700&sp n=0.432617,0.669499&hl=en We live south of the Park of Roses in Columbus - I started with a broader map of columbus and 'dragged/zoomed' there and asked for a url: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=columbus+oh+43214&ll=40.040344,-83.022920& spn=0.013519,0.020922&hl=en See what I mean about Columbus at: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.625000,-38.411526&spn=56.875000,116.31 3039&hl=en. If you try to get driving instructions from the US to the UK though it returns a message that it cannot do this for you ...... ;-) Check out http://www.paulrademacher.com/housing/ for an interesting 'blend' of services .... Clearly, this is suggestive of other services including library services .... Lorcan Lorcan Dempsey [http://orweblog.oclc.org] OCLC Research [http://www.oclc.org/research/] -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Roy Tennant Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:11 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Google Maps UK For those of you who can't believe that Heathrow Airport is so far out of London central, here is proof: You guessed it, as seen on Peter Scott's Library Blog , Google Maps UK is now available. I can hardly wait for Google Maps Crete. Roy From PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU Thu Apr 21 13:22:52 2005 From: PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU (Pons, Lisa (ponslm)) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] learning db programming- tips Message-ID: <9871F0C990DF9B4681F1EB312A4D02F829B084@ucmail8.ad.uc.edu> If you use DWMX04, that can create the pages for you with a little setup. What kind of database are you connecting to? It can connect to mysql and use php for example, which is what I use. An example of one of our early pages: http://www.libraries.uc.edu/research/articles/inda_browse.php Let me know if you want more info. Lisa Pons-Haitz Webmaster University Libraries University of Cincinnati lisa.pons@uc.edu (513)556-1431 > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Davis [mailto:kdavis@lawrence.lib.ks.us] > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:03 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] learning db programming- tips > > > Andrew Darby wrote: > >Both are now running off one MySQL database, and we connect > with PHP. I > >know you said you didn't do db programming, but it is the > best way to > >handle this sort of thing, and isn't as hard as it may seem at first > >blush . . . . > > > Andrew (or anyone else who wants to chime in): > more and more I'm resigned to having to learn db programming, > but I'm dumb as dirt about it! > Could you please give me some tips on how to get started? > What software do I need? (I use DW MX 2004 to create web pages) > > > -- > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Karen Davis, Coordinator > Center for Community Networking & > Web Administrator > Lawrence Public Library > 707 Vermont Street > Lawrence, KS 66044 > 785.843.3833 ext. 104 > > -- > From kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us Thu Apr 21 14:00:38 2005 From: kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us (Karen Davis) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: how to get it all done Message-ID: <200504211300.AA23396382@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Unfortunately, all I know how to do is create stand-alone web pages. I can see that I'm going to be swamped if I continue this way. I don't have a content management system for staff to use (e.g. Contribute). Each new set of pages I consider creating is now making me *cringe*. Too much repetitive work! How can I do all this as efficiently as possible? I I've recommended Contribute 3 to help distribute the content maintenance work among department staff (who are willing ot do it), but am told there are security issues which make it unfeasible, since we don't have an in-house staging server (just ftp to an ISP). You all know a great deal more than I do, so, if you could suggest how I should recommend that this be set up to run efficiently, I would be grateful! What do I need? Thanks again very much for your advice. ++++++++++++++++++ Current tools and setup for the web site: * Dreamweaver MX 2004, Photoshop 6 * one user account at an ISP with ftp connection * Forms handled with a Perl script (maintained by a techie as necessary, not me) ++++++++++++++++++ -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org Thu Apr 21 14:05:02 2005 From: alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org (Alnisa Allgood) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] learning db programming- tips In-Reply-To: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: At 9:02 AM -0700 4/21/05, Karen Davis wrote: >Andrew (or anyone else who wants to chime in): >more and more I'm resigned to having to learn db programming, but >I'm dumb as dirt about it! >Could you please give me some tips on how to get started? What >software do I need? (I use DW MX 2004 to create web pages) Two books that should be on every web and database programmers bookshelf, regardless of expertise level are both by Michael J Hernandez. Database Design for Mere mortals, and SQL Queries for Mere Mortals. Database Design offers the basics of relational database theory in a simple, easy-to-understand , software independent approach. The principles are solid. The tips and tricks are useful. I also recommend it to a number of clients who are exploring the idea of a custom-built database system. Doesn't matter if they hire me or some other developer, if they know some of the basics, the process is just a whole lot easier and more meaningful for both us. SQL Queries has become my new bible. I use it in conjunction with other books, but its best use, is for helping me breakdown a problem, by starting with a spoken word question, expanding to get all the if, thens or buts, then walking through that final sentence/statement to produce a SQL Query. This approach has even made cross-tabulations in SQL fairly easy to produce. You can still use DreamWeaver to create pages that interact with a database. The biggest issue will be the lack of local data. Most DW developers are just use to having their data on the page. The biggest difference to programming with a database is that the page is just a shell, instead of your data being on the page just a query to retrieve the data (and code to manipulate it, will display. But the benefits are great; and you don't have to be a super programming to get started. Alnisa From alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org Thu Apr 21 14:08:22 2005 From: alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org (Alnisa Allgood) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] learning db programming- tips In-Reply-To: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504211101.AA6226038@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: At 9:02 AM -0700 4/21/05, Karen Davis wrote: >Andrew Darby wrote: >>Both are now running off one MySQL database, and we connect with PHP. I >>know you said you didn't do db programming, but it is the best way to >>handle this sort of thing, and isn't as hard as it may seem at first >>blush . . . . > > >Andrew (or anyone else who wants to chime in): >more and more I'm resigned to having to learn db programming, but >I'm dumb as dirt about it! >Could you please give me some tips on how to get started? What >software do I need? (I use DW MX 2004 to create web pages) > I forgot to add, despite my book recommendations (which I still highly recommend). I also recommend, exploring a content management system. There are a slew of them, and they will save you tons of time reinventing the wheel. Alnisa From KevilL at missouri.edu Thu Apr 21 14:18:16 2005 From: KevilL at missouri.edu (Kevil, L H.) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: learning db programming- tips Message-ID: Not to denigrate Mike Hernandez' book, but I have found Steven Roman's Access Database Design & Programming shorter and more useful. L. Hunter KEVIL Collection Development Librarian University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, Missouri 65201 KevilL@missouri.edu 573-884-8760 Knowledge is one of the few things that can be given to others without reducing the amount you have left. (Thomas Sowell) "The brain is a wonderful organ. It starts working the moment you get up in the morning and does not stop until you get into the office." -Robert Frost -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Alnisa Allgood Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:07 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: learning db programming- tips At 9:02 AM -0700 4/21/05, Karen Davis wrote: >Andrew (or anyone else who wants to chime in): >more and more I'm resigned to having to learn db programming, but >I'm dumb as dirt about it! >Could you please give me some tips on how to get started? What >software do I need? (I use DW MX 2004 to create web pages) Two books that should be on every web and database programmers bookshelf, regardless of expertise level are both by Michael J Hernandez. Database Design for Mere mortals, and SQL Queries for Mere Mortals. Database Design offers the basics of relational database theory in a simple, easy-to-understand , software independent approach. The principles are solid. The tips and tricks are useful. I also recommend it to a number of clients who are exploring the idea of a custom-built database system. Doesn't matter if they hire me or some other developer, if they know some of the basics, the process is just a whole lot easier and more meaningful for both us. SQL Queries has become my new bible. I use it in conjunction with other books, but its best use, is for helping me breakdown a problem, by starting with a spoken word question, expanding to get all the if, thens or buts, then walking through that final sentence/statement to produce a SQL Query. This approach has even made cross-tabulations in SQL fairly easy to produce. You can still use DreamWeaver to create pages that interact with a database. The biggest issue will be the lack of local data. Most DW developers are just use to having their data on the page. The biggest difference to programming with a database is that the page is just a shell, instead of your data being on the page just a query to retrieve the data (and code to manipulate it, will display. But the benefits are great; and you don't have to be a super programming to get started. Alnisa From araby at unr.edu Thu Apr 21 14:39:06 2005 From: araby at unr.edu (Araby Y Greene) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] how to get it all done Message-ID: <1D3A202EC3CD41469F6CF5F2675903BBF2C7C4@UNRX.unr.edu> Glasshaus publishes some good readable books in their "Tools of the Trade" series about databases, CSS, web forms, CMS, and Dreamweaver/Contribute. I would recommend: Auld, Chris, et al. Practical Database Design for the Web. Glasshaus, 2002. 1-904151-20-5. In spite of the 2002 pub. Date, this book is generic enough to be very useful. It's a good database and platform neutral intro to SQL. Anything by Scott Mitchell (4GuysFromRolla.com fame) on ASP or ASP.Net is well written, understandable, and proofread. -araby __________________________ Araby Greene Web Development Librarian Getchell Library/322 University of Nevada, Reno http://www.library.unr.edu/ araby@unr.edu 775.784.6500 x343 /| \'o.O' =(___)= U ACK! THPTPHH! -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Karen Davis Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] how to get it all done Unfortunately, all I know how to do is create stand-alone web pages. I can see that I'm going to be swamped if I continue this way. I don't have a content management system for staff to use (e.g. Contribute). Each new set of pages I consider creating is now making me *cringe*. Too much repetitive work! How can I do all this as efficiently as possible? I I've recommended Contribute 3 to help distribute the content maintenance work among department staff (who are willing ot do it), but am told there are security issues which make it unfeasible, since we don't have an in-house staging server (just ftp to an ISP). You all know a great deal more than I do, so, if you could suggest how I should recommend that this be set up to run efficiently, I would be grateful! What do I need? Thanks again very much for your advice. ++++++++++++++++++ Current tools and setup for the web site: * Dreamweaver MX 2004, Photoshop 6 * one user account at an ISP with ftp connection * Forms handled with a Perl script (maintained by a techie as necessary, not me) ++++++++++++++++++ -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU Thu Apr 21 15:14:43 2005 From: PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU (Pons, Lisa (ponslm)) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] how to get it all done Message-ID: <9871F0C990DF9B4681F1EB312A4D02F829B085@ucmail8.ad.uc.edu> Not sure what they mean by security issues? Security in terms of not wanting people to edit directly on the site? Security with them logging into the site? Extraneous/bad code added? We have 25 people editing on Contribute 3 who connect using SFTP, and there are a few things we did to cut down on errors and to protect the code, etc...Some of these ideas would benefit you in updating and maintaining your pages as well. They are: -Dreamweaver Templates:(locks down areas of the page so that it cannot be edited in Contribute). We have used template parameters as well, which allows our editors freedom, but again, protects the page. An example would be, where editors can decide to have a small "help" box display on their page or not by accessing the template parameter with Contribute, and simply checking the right box. Then, on the html page, the box appears where the cascading style sheets tell it to, with the content the editor has put in. So, editors have control of content, IT has control of code. Additionally, if you base your pages on a template, you can update all your pages at once. You can even have options on or off, or use nested templates. We have 4 levels of nested templates, with one template at the top controlling thousands of pages. -SSI's: many of the common areas are in include files, which make updates easier and insure that the snippets are not changed from one page to the next by Contribute. -CSS: Consistency for all editors is achieved by setting the styles in cascading style sheets, so that editors have the freedom to format their page, but that format is consistent across the site. (for example,

has the same font and color everywhere). Of course, a content management system would be better, but for many reasons, our organization cant going that route yet, so this was the second best bet. Additionally, getting some extensions for Dreamweaver, all free, allows you to use a GUI interface to have dreamweaver do some simple dynamic pages. Although, you do need to understand how to setup the database, and some SQL is helpful as well. Lisa Pons-Haitz Webmaster University Libraries University of Cincinnati lisa.pons@uc.edu (513)556-1431 > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Davis [mailto:kdavis@lawrence.lib.ks.us] > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:04 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] how to get it all done > > > Unfortunately, all I know how to do is create stand-alone web > pages. I can see that I'm going to be swamped if I continue > this way. I don't have a content management system for staff > to use (e.g. Contribute). Each new set of pages I consider > creating is now making me *cringe*. Too much repetitive work! > How can I do all this as efficiently as possible? I > > I've recommended Contribute 3 to help distribute the content > maintenance work among department staff (who are willing ot > do it), but am told there are security issues which make it > unfeasible, since we don't have an in-house staging server > (just ftp to an ISP). > > You all know a great deal more than I do, so, if you could > suggest how I should recommend that this be set up to run > efficiently, I would be grateful! What do I need? > > Thanks again very much for your advice. > > ++++++++++++++++++ > Current tools and setup for the web site: > * Dreamweaver MX 2004, Photoshop 6 > * one user account at an ISP with ftp connection > * Forms handled with a Perl script (maintained by a techie as > necessary, not me) > ++++++++++++++++++ > > > > -- > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Karen Davis, Coordinator > Center for Community Networking & > Web Administrator > Lawrence Public Library > 707 Vermont Street > Lawrence, KS 66044 > 785.843.3833 ext. 104 > > -- > From kgs at bluehighways.com Thu Apr 21 15:22:36 2005 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: how to get it all done In-Reply-To: <9871F0C990DF9B4681F1EB312A4D02F829B085@ucmail8.ad.uc.edu> Message-ID: <20050421192232.73BC3AE@frontend3.messagingengine.com> > Of course, a content management system would be better, but for many > reasons, our organization cant going that route yet, so this was the > second > best bet. You can have a good CMS and still defeat it by poor human management. Lisa shows that intelligent oversight and clear guidance is still the most crucial part of any "system." Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com From kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us Thu Apr 21 15:57:50 2005 From: kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us (Karen Davis) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: how to get it all done Message-ID: <200504211457.AA14483618@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Thanks for all the good info! I think I'm getting the picture. See below- Lisa wrote: >Not sure what they mean by security issues? >Security in terms of not wanting >people to edit directly on the site? Yes, however I explained the way Contribute works with Write/Publish permissions, so that really shouldn't be a problem, correct? >Security with them logging into the >site? Yes, they say that ftp can't be made secure, no matter what you do. Hmm, you're using it... have you had any problems with hacks related to Contribute? >Extraneous/bad code added? Well, they talked vaguely about people being able to "muck up" the pages. >-Dreamweaver Templates: Yes, I depend on Templates pretty much totally. >-SSI's: I have used SSI's, but now rely mostly on library items. Question: In your opinion, what advantages do ssi's have over DW Library Items? >-CSS: Yes, I use CSS exclusively, so that isn't a problem. I guess you're helping me think through what IS the problem: that I'm the only one doing conatent maintenance and development! I'm gonna ask for Contribute again. I don't think it makes sense for me to be doing every blessed keystroke. What's worse, Contribute had been purchased and was in house. But then IT objected "for security reasons" and suggested that pages could be "Edited in Word" from the Internet Explorer browser. I've looked into that enough to know that that is a terible suggestion. >Additionally, getting some extensions for Dreamweaver, all free, allows you >to use a GUI interface to have dreamweaver do some simple dynamic pages. Could you please suggest which DW extensions which you consider particularly useful? >Although, you do need to understand how to setup the database, and some SQL >is helpful as well. That was my original db question earlier this morning. So I have to settle on a db software first, right? Would PHP be the easiest for me? THANK YOU -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca Thu Apr 21 16:29:59 2005 From: cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Gray) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] how to get it all done In-Reply-To: <200504211300.AA23396382@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504211300.AA23396382@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: It definitely sounds like you are looking for a content management solution rather than getting into the nitty-gritty of database development. Given that your Web site is already hosted for you, you might want to look at some of the hosted content management systems that are available. You could start with the list at . I would also emphasize that the biggest factor in content management is not the software but planning how best to use that software. A good place to start is the book form Glashaus "Content Mnagement Systems" in their "Tools of the Trade" series. Chris "The brain is a wonderful organ. It starts working the moment you get up in the morning and does not stop until you get into the office." -Robert Frost On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Karen Davis wrote: > Unfortunately, all I know how to do is create stand-alone web pages. I can see that I'm going to be swamped if I continue this way. I don't have a content management system for staff to use (e.g. Contribute). Each new set of pages I consider creating is now making me *cringe*. Too much repetitive work! How can I do all this as efficiently as possible? I > > I've recommended Contribute 3 to help distribute the content maintenance work among department staff (who are willing ot do it), but am told there are security issues which make it unfeasible, since we don't have an in-house staging server (just ftp to an ISP). > > You all know a great deal more than I do, so, if you could suggest how I should recommend that this be set up to run efficiently, I would be grateful! What do I need? > > Thanks again very much for your advice. > > ++++++++++++++++++ > Current tools and setup for the web site: > * Dreamweaver MX 2004, Photoshop 6 > * one user account at an ISP with ftp connection > * Forms handled with a Perl script (maintained by a techie as necessary, not me) > ++++++++++++++++++ > > > > -- > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Karen Davis, Coordinator > Center for Community Networking & > Web Administrator > Lawrence Public Library > 707 Vermont Street > Lawrence, KS 66044 > 785.843.3833 ext. 104 > > -- > From kim_mlis at yahoo.ca Thu Apr 21 16:52:32 2005 From: kim_mlis at yahoo.ca (Amritha) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: Editorial - Copyright Ownership in Blogs Message-ID: <20050421205232.18991.qmail@web53303.mail.yahoo.com> (Cross-posted; please excuse duplication.) The Editorial by Lesley Ellen Harris in Volume 2005, Issue 1, The Copyright & New Media Law Newsletter, deals with copyright ownership in blogs - it is reproduced below. For further information on this print newsletter, see www.copyrightlaws.com . Sincerely, Amritha amritha@copyrightslaws.com Editorial - Copyright Ownership in Blogs The Internet continually forces us to test the application and flexibility of current copyright law to new modes of communications and media. The Internet has already spawned debate and lawsuits about hyper-linking, P2P file sharing, and the removal of copyright management information and technological protections. A newer Internet activity, blogging resulting in Weblogs, is now being discussed in the copyright arena. A blog is basically a stream of consciousness discussion available to the public at large. Individuals keep these blogs on every topic imaginable. Blogs are original material, and once they are fixed in some form, saved digitally or in a print out, they are protected by copyright in most countries around the world. In fact, they would be protected for 50 to 70 years after an author's death - much beyond the life of any blog itself. Blogs are becoming more popular amongst professionals, and certain employees are even encouraged to create blogs based on their work. This raises interesting issues concerning copyright ownership in the blogs. If an organization requires blogging as part of the duties of an individual, it is likely that the employer owns the content in the blog, just like the employer owns other copyright-protected works created by that employee in the course of employment. However, if the blog is initiated by an individual though it may discuss work-related issues, outside the scope of his employment, who owns the content in the blog? This is comparable to the situation where a professor writes a book related to, but outside the duties, of his instruction. This is often a gray issue in the academic world. University policies that specifically deal with such issues can help clarify the situation. Also, a professor approaching his university prior to writing the book, may be able to clarify the situation, prior to a confrontation. Many companies have yet to develop Weblog Policies, similar to their other integral policies. Thus, employees who discuss work-related activities are generally held to the rule of "good taste" in their discussions, and of course, not spewing any confidential information. As is the case with many Internet-related activities, would a written Weblog Policy contradict the free flowing nature of information in a blog, and perhaps weaken the effectiveness of these blogs? With ownership comes the issue of who may authorize reproduction of the content in a blog. Generally, only the owner may authorize others to reproduce a work. Would this be an organization or an individual? Or should the whole notion of obtaining permission in relation to blog content be mute, since the whole point of the blog is for as many people as possible to access and read it? The blogs by Sun Microsystem employees at blogs.sun.com take what I call a compromise position. These blogs are subject to a Creative Commons License. Thus, the blogs are protected by copyright, however the rights are conveniently set out in a hyper-linked license and are broader than those rights attached to most copyright-protected works. To date, there are no lawsuits relating to ownership, reproduction or re-distribution of the content of blogs. This in itself may be helpful for organizations and individuals who are determining "policies" in this area. And for those bloggers who want their content read as widely as possible, they are free to put a statement on their blogs to the effect that the content may be freely used without permission. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org Thu Apr 21 17:33:41 2005 From: alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org (Alnisa Allgood) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] how to get it all done In-Reply-To: <200504211300.AA23396382@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504211300.AA23396382@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: At 11:01 AM -0700 4/21/05, Karen Davis wrote: >Unfortunately, all I know how to do is create stand-alone web pages. >I can see that I'm going to be swamped if I continue this way. I >don't have a content management system for staff to use (e.g. >Contribute). Each new set of pages I consider creating is now making >me *cringe*. Too much repetitive work! How can I do all this as >efficiently as possible? I > >I've recommended Contribute 3 to help distribute the content >maintenance work among department staff (who are willing ot do it), >but am told there are security issues which make it unfeasible, >since we don't have an in-house staging server (just ftp to an ISP). > >You all know a great deal more than I do, so, if you could suggest >how I should recommend that this be set up to run efficiently, I >would be grateful! What do I need? > Hi Karen- You definitely want a Content Management Solution (CMS). I took a look at your current site, and looked up some backend information on your current host. Kanren.net, your current host does have you on an Apache web server, and I spoke to their systems admin person and they offer access to PHP4 and MySQL, and don't restrict CMS. It also seems that they could help you guys some in selecting and installing a CMS system, though there is probably a fee associated with that. From rapidly going through your website, I don't see anything that couldn't be duplicated in a very good web publishing system, like Expression Engine (EE) http://www.pmachine.com/expressionengine/ rather than a high end CMS. No mistakes, EE is a CMS system, its just not as extensive as say Plone or other high-end/more expensive systems. They don't pay me, but I recommend them a lot. Why, because about a year and a half ago, we were managing a number of our nonprofit clients websites-- some were handcode, some we had developed custom CMS system for, others we were using Movable Type or some other publishing system for. It was a mess and a pain, and I often cringed when clients wanted updates they couldn't handle themselves. The pMachine introduced Expression Engine, and now we've switched 10 of 12 web clients over to it. The clients love being able to add and edit articles at will, and I love that when they contact us, its for something that's actually worth the money they'll be charged. I forget who said it, but planning is really a key component--who has access to what, if all staff can post, is there an official overseer for each content area, do post go live immediately, or get staged for review, etc., etc., etc. Poor human management can cause a slew of regrets. That said though... With an application like Expression Engine, you can have it installed and running in about 15 minutes. Of course that's using a default template, so you'd then have to add time to move your current templates into the system, decide how to break-up content, etc. It sounds hard, but could be done fairly quickly. I could go on, about what to do and how, but you should really look at a few different systems, demo them if possible; then maybe speak with someone at Kanren if you have any questions about what will or won't work on their systems. Then if you need more specific help regarding planning and structure send me an email. Any assistance, I can write up in my free time or when I'm avoiding client projects is available. Alnisa From Joanna.Rumpff at austin.org.au Thu Apr 21 21:55:59 2005 From: Joanna.Rumpff at austin.org.au (RUMPFF, Joanna) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: learning db programming- tips Message-ID: <2D1481AF07590C45AB7B0111DAFBF64C0147F6F0@server35s.armc.org.au> There is a very good site called WebThang at http://www.webthang.co.uk that might be worth a look. It has some great tutorials, particularly for Dreamweaver users that can take you through the entire process from the basics to more complicated stuff - it helped get me up and running with ASP and MS Access, but it also covers PHP, MySQL etc. I found it was a much easier starting place than the half dozen text books I've got. Joanna Rumpff Austin Health Library Heidelberg Vic 3084 Australia > >Andrew Darby wrote: >Both are now running off one MySQL database, and we connect with PHP. I >know you said you didn't do db programming, but it is the best way to >handle this sort of thing, and isn't as hard as it may seem at first >blush . . . . Andrew (or anyone else who wants to chime in): more and more I'm resigned to having to learn db programming, but I'm dumb as dirt about it! Could you please give me some tips on how to get started? What software do I need? 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Austin Health provides no guarantee that this transmission is free of virus or that it has not been intercepted or altered. ***************************************************************** From wprice at panam.edu Thu Apr 21 22:49:15 2005 From: wprice at panam.edu (Ward Price) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:54 2005 Subject: Fw: [Libs-Or] [Fwd: Our future??] Message-ID: <049901c546e5$df4d5710$63327181@lib.panam.edu> You saw it here first? (I saw this on the Libs-Or mailing list.) ----- Original Message ----- > This was sent to an OCLC list. I have been thinking about it and am not quite sure what to say. I am curious to know what you might think. > > ============================================================ > > Colleagues, > > At ACRL I learned about an eight-minute streaming video that you may find > .... well, troubling, pure fantasy, depressing ... interesting. In any > case you should probably take the time to view it. While it is about "the > press" as we know it today we might see some dangerous similarities to our > situation in libraries. > > The video is called EPIC - Evolving > Personal Information Construct. (http://www.robinsloan.com/epic/) > > EPIC is a history of the development of the Web as an information resource > from the recent past to 2014. The focus is on what happens to the press > over this period. > > The video begins: > > It is the best of times. It is the worst of time. In the year 2014 people > have access to a breadth and depth of information unimaginable in an > earlier age. Everyone contributes in some way. Everyone participates to > create a living, breathing mediascape. However ........ > > What is your reaction? Does this have any relevance for libraries? > ============================================================ > > C. Ward Price Web Librarian University of Texas-Pan American http://www.lib.panam.edu/ wprice@panam.edu (956) 316-7046 From s.j.newman at brighton.ac.uk Sat Apr 23 16:15:37 2005 From: s.j.newman at brighton.ac.uk (Steve Newman) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Google Maps UK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001201c54841$3836b270$0202a8c0@BRUCE> I see that if you use http://maps.google.co.uk there is no link to satellite pictures. If you use http://maps.google.com there is a link, albeit not at the same zoom level for the UK as that available for the majority of the USA. Steve Newman University of Brighton, UK -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Roy Tennant Sent: 21 April 2005 15:13 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Google Maps UK For those of you who can't believe that Heathrow Airport is so far out of London central, here is proof: You guessed it, as seen on Peter Scott's Library Blog , Google Maps UK is now available. I can hardly wait for Google Maps Crete. Roy From pnaess at usa.no Wed Apr 27 07:33:59 2005 From: pnaess at usa.no (Petter Naess) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: how to create a password protected forum/blog Message-ID: Can someone recommend a free software or service that would allow one to create a blog-like (or forum) interface (webbased) through which a closed group of people could communicate? The dialogue, in contrast to a conventional blog, would be accessible only to members of the group. Blogger.com would serve this purpose if it still supported password-protected sites, but I believe that is a thing of the past. My objective is to create a discussion group that will function in much the same way as a listserv, but in which threads will be presented on screen, as in a blog or a forum rather than in emails. I'm grateful for suggestions! Petter N?ss Information Resource Director U.S.Embassy, Public Affairs Drammensveien 18 0244 Oslo Norway phone (47) 21308802 fax (47) 22440436 pnaess@usa.no http://www.usa.no http://ircworld.blogspot.com ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From BreakallS at chesterfield.gov Wed Apr 27 08:47:28 2005 From: BreakallS at chesterfield.gov (Breakall, Scott) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] how to create a password protected forum/blog Message-ID: <5D000B78613C1C48989C7A5923B71ABA032EBA1D@franklin.chesterfield.gov> Petter, If you've got some web space you can run this forum on, go to http://opensourcecms.com and click on the "CMS - Forums" link on the menu tree on the left. This site lists nine different forums that you can download and install, and has a demo site for each. phpBB may be the most common -- I have seen that one all over the Internet, and it's very easy to install and manage. A solution to the problem you have posed would be to require a user to login to view or post to threads, and to restrict new user registrations -- that way only approved people could either view or contribute to the discussion. Poke around the site and try the demos -- you can check out the front end as well as the back end (administration) of each package software. If you don't have a server to host the forum from, check out http://ezboard.com and http://proboards.com -- each of these sites lets you set up a free forum which can be managed in a similar fashion. BTW, I don't think Blogger currently lets you password-protect blogs. ~Scott~ -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Petter Naess Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] how to create a password protected forum/blog Can someone recommend a free software or service that would allow one to create a blog-like (or forum) interface (webbased) through which a closed group of people could communicate? The dialogue, in contrast to a conventional blog, would be accessible only to members of the group. Blogger.com would serve this purpose if it still supported password-protected sites, but I believe that is a thing of the past. My objective is to create a discussion group that will function in much the same way as a listserv, but in which threads will be presented on screen, as in a blog or a forum rather than in emails. I'm grateful for suggestions! Petter N?ss Information Resource Director U.S.Embassy, Public Affairs Drammensveien 18 0244 Oslo Norway phone (47) 21308802 fax (47) 22440436 pnaess@usa.no http://www.usa.no http://ircworld.blogspot.com ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From haneefcalicut at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 09:02:18 2005 From: haneefcalicut at yahoo.com (K M Haneefa) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: two-day seminar on Knowledge Technology & Knowledge Industry Message-ID: <20050427130219.5775.qmail@web21001.mail.yahoo.com> Apologies for cross postings Dear All, I am glad to inform you that we are going to organise a two-day seminar on Knowledge Technology & Knowledge Industry: Kerala's Development Potentialities on 27th & 28th May 2005 at Calicut University Campus. Fall of Information Technology IT offers an unlimited access to the vast depositories of data or information in terms of millions. But nobody can make use of more than 10 per cent of such a vast ocean of data or information, for they are fragmented, disorganized, unrelated and inassimilable. Now we can imagine the magnitude of the great wastage of human brainpower and other resources associated with IT for the generation, processing and transfer of such an unusable data and information. Humanity cannot afford such a loss for long. Hence a great fall of IT is inevitable within five years. Humanity needs filtered, logically organized or structured and meaningful information. That can be assimilated and retained. That alone becomes the part of the knowledgebase. Without Knowledge, data or information has no value. IT makes people rich in information and poor in knowledge. Now even ordinary housewife needs knowledge in so many domains in dealing with day-to-day problems. IT has not yet matured enough to handle or process knowledge and meeting the ever-expanding knowledge needs of humanity. All efforts in Artificial Intelligence, Experts Systems and the recent advances in web technology, XML and Semantic Web could not make much stride. This is because of a lack of proper understanding of the structure, meaningful organization and representation of knowledge and how knowledge is created, developed and retained in the brain for further use. When we study the thinking processes of the human brain, we can identify well-structured patterns of knowledge processing and communication of thoughts with a series of well-defined symbols. The existing pattern of the accessibility of knowledge and its processing and its creation or generation of man is very inefficient. Human beings still now could use only less than 8 per cent of the actual potentialities of the brain. Rise of Knowledge Technology All the existing knowledge, from the time of Vedas to the latest developments in Information Technology, has a common pattern and it is coded. If we could develop a device or formula for decoding the existing pattern of knowledge by analyzing the symbols used for the representation of their meaning and modify these patterns, then we could attain wonders in understanding the existing knowledge and creating a massive amount of new knowledge or even wisdom within a very short span of time. It is possible to find out a network-like pattern or structure when we put together all the existing knowledge, either scientific or aesthetic or mystical or spiritual. The total knowledge stock acquired or accessed by an individual in his life span is so small and there is no justification for spending so much time, energy and resources to acquire such a small stock of knowledge and to brand oneself as scholar or specialist. Our education system and the learning models are totally inefficient and unsuitable to the modern society, for they originally evolved when the total stock of knowledge was very small. A major shift from information to knowledge has been taking place. That leads to the emergence of a true knowledge society on a global basis. Knowledge Industry The future of humanity will be determined by 'Knowmatics' or Knowledge Science and 'Knowledge Technology'. They provide the tools for the effective processing and application of knowledge so as to develop Knowledge Industry and the Cyber Society. Then it is possible to bring all the knowledge spread across hundreds of domains or disciples into a single or unified system of conglomerated or embedded system so that an individual with average intellectual caliber can attain expertise in several domains within a short span of time. Knowledge Science and Technology are to be designed and developed to deal with augmentation of the thinking process by way of deliberate modification of knowledge assimilation and knowledge creation processes of the human brain and restructuring the pattern of knowledge organization with the development of suitable hardware and software that involves a series of complex tasks. Advanced level study and research in this field must be conducted. Knowledge Technology and Industry offer unlimited employment and developmental opportunities to India, especially Kerala. The actual strength of India is its traditional knowledge base that stimulates and activates the Indian youth to assimilate new knowledge. South India, especially Kerala can be considered as the global brain reserve of the twenty first century. If we can tap the superior brainpower of our youth, India can emerge as the most wealthy and powerful nation of the world within ten years. It is high time to develop and implement strategies and policies for the development of Knowledge Industry in Kerala. The Seminar In order to address these basic issues, it is proposed to organize a two-day seminar on 27th and 28th May 2005 in the Calicut University Campus by the Department of Library & Information Science. The Department has been conducting internationally recognized research / published works on Theories, Policies and Applications of Informatics / Information Technology, besides Knowledge Bases and Knowledge Theories, for the last twenty four years, under the leadership of Dr. Raju M. Mathew, one of the twelve members of the FID International Committee on Research on Theoretical Basis of Information, Moscow for two terms and the author of Mathew's Theories of Knowledge / Informatics (1985). The Seminar deals with the basic issues of the Fall and decline of IT and the Emergence of Knowledge Science / Knowmatics, Knowledge Technology, Knwoledge Industry and Potentialities of Kerala in Knowledge Industry. Emphasis will also be given for the formulation of the future oriented Knowledge Technology-Industry Policies and Strategies, besides exploring the Theoretical Foundations of Knowmatics and Knowledge Technology and Redesigning Universities for the Age of Knowledge Industry. The Seminar is sponsored by the Kerala State Industrial Finance Corporation (KSIDC), the State Bank of Travancore and several other agencies. Experts from IISc, IIT and IIM, the Top Policy Makers and Major Players of IT Industry, besides the Central and State Ministers, are expected to participate in the Seminar. This is the first time that a seminar is organized on Knowledge Technology and Knowledge Industry. The registration and the other details of the seminar will be announced shortly. Tracks of the Seminar. The Seminar has been designed to run into Four Parallel Tracks. Detailed discussions will be made based on the invited papers presented by the experts. Following are the Tracks of the Seminar. I. IT & Knowledge Processing IT is still trapped in Data Processing, Storage and Transmission Social Importance of Knowledge over Information Fate of AI, Expert Systems, Semantic Web and XML Fall and Decline of IT in the Emerging Knowledge Society II. Knowmatics and Knowledge Technology Rise of Knowmatics & Knowledge Technology, Theoretical foundation of Knowmatics & Knowledge Technology Uses and Application Knowledge Technology KT and Society - Benefiting the Common Man and Experts alike. III. Knowledge Industry & Kerala Emergence of Knowledge Industry Global Markets for Knowledge Products and Services Tapping Kerala's Brain and Talents for Knowledge Industry. Policies and Strategies for Knowledge Industry in Kerala 1V. Universities and Knowledge Industry Knowledge Society and Failure of Universities in Kerala Redesigning Universities for the Knowledge Technology Study and Research in Knowmatics & Knowledge Technology Knowledge Industry and University Linkages. Registration Fee: The Seminar is open to IT Companies, Professionals, Trade and Business, Policy Makers and Academic Community. The registration fee for a Company or Firm is Rs.5000/- and two of its representatives can participate. For individuals representing trade, business and profession the registration fee is Rs.2000/-. It is Rs.500/- for a Faculty Member or Librarian and Rs.250/- for a Student. Sponsors need not pay registration fee. Participants will be served lunch and dinner and tea / coffee during sessions, besides seminar kit. The registration fee must be remitted by DD in favour of A/c No.CA 199075 of The Head of the Dept. of Library & Information Science, Calicut University payable at SBT, Calicut University. The DD along with duly filled registration form must be sent to: The Head of the Dept. of Library & Information Science, P. B. No 10, Calicut University, Kerala -673 635. Accommodation The organizers will provide necessary help in booking hotel rooms in Calicut City or the nearby Kadave Resort. Five and Three Star Hotels are available in Calicut City. A limited number of rooms are available in the University Guest House for which advance booking is required. The Venue of the Seminar is the spacious and beautiful Calicut University Campus, 12 KM away from the Calicut Air Port and 22 KM away from the historic Calicut City, with a lot of tourist attractions, including five and three star hotels. Registration Form 1. Name (Individuals or Company/Institution) : 2. Mailing Address : 3. E-mail : 4. Phone : Mobile : 5. Order of Preference of the Seminar Tracks (Please mark as I, II etc) (i) IT & Knowledge Processing (ii) Knowmatics and Knowledge Technology (iii) Knowledge Industry & Kerala (iv) Universities and Knowledge Industry 6. Food - Vegetarian or Non -Vegetarian : 7. Accommodation a) Calicut City Hotels: Five Star, Three Star b) University Campus Guest House 8. For booking accommodation any help is required or not : 9. Registration Fee : Rs. DD No Date Bank 10. Signature 11. Place : 12. Date : For further details, please contact: Dr. Raju M. Mathew, Reader & Head Dept. of Library & Information Science P.B. No 10, Calicut University Kerala -673635 Phone/ Fax : 0494-2400859 ( R ) Mobile: 9847411945 Mr. M.G. Sreekumar, Librarian and Head Center for Development of Digital Libraries (CDDL) Indian Institute of Management Kozhikode Kozhikode-673 571, Kerala Phone No: 0495-2809140, Fax: 0495-2803010-11 E-mail: mgsree@iimk.ac.in K.M. Haneefa Lecturer Department of Library & Information Science University of Calicut, Calicut University P.O Kerala -673 635 Phone No. : 0494-2401144 * 286 (Office ); 9895842431 (Mobile) E-mail: haneefcalicut@yahoo.com; hanee4u@gmail.com K M Haneefa Lecturer Department of Library & Information Science University of Calicut, Kerala E-mail : haneefcalicut@yahoo.com Phone No: 09895842431, 0494-2401144*286 (Office) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From lists at lisnews.com Wed Apr 27 08:55:51 2005 From: lists at lisnews.com (Blake Carver) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] how to create a password protected forum/blog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <11138.148.144.175.2.1114606551.squirrel@148.144.175.2> We actually host a few sites that do just that. You should be able to find a web host that allows you to install any of the popular (or unpopular) blogging tools, and then just set up a .htaccess password, or something similar, to limit access. ----- Blake Carver LISHost.org Librarian & Information Science Web Hosting http://lishost.org > Can someone recommend a free software or service that would allow one to > create a blog-like (or forum) interface (webbased) through which a closed > group of people could communicate? The dialogue, in contrast to a > conventional blog, would be accessible only to members of the group. > Blogger.com would serve this purpose if it still supported > password-protected sites, but I believe that is a thing of the past. My > objective is to create a discussion group that will function in much the > same way as a listserv, but in which threads will be presented on screen, > as > in a blog or a forum rather than in emails. I'm grateful for suggestions! > From kwilson at outsellinc.com Wed Apr 27 09:05:45 2005 From: kwilson at outsellinc.com (Karen Wilson) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: Participate in Benchmark Study Message-ID: You are invited to participate in Outsell, Inc.?s (http://www.outsellinc.com) annual Information Management Benchmark Operations Study. This study, covering industries, government agencies and academic institutions, will focus on information management functions such as information centers and libraries; knowledge management; records management; and competitive intelligence. This study is concerned with job roles, organization, reporting, budget, users, staff, services, and strategic management. Outsell?s Vendor Portfolio Management Benchmark study runs in the fall. Your answers will remain confidential and will be aggregated with others. All participants who complete the survey will be entered into a drawing for one of five $200 cash prizes, for themselves or for a charity of their choice. Respondents who complete the survey will also receive their choice of one of the following complete Outsell briefings, which they may download immediately after completing the survey. - The Changing Roles Of Content Management Functions: View From The Corporate Sector, 2004 - The Changing Roles Of Content Management Functions: View From The Government Sector, 2004 We ask that only one person from each department or buying unit answer the survey to avoid duplicate responses from the same organization. Please enter the survey at: http://www.digisurvey.com User: Outsell Password: survey The survey will close on Friday May 13, 2005 at midnight Pacific Time. If you have questions, please contact Karen Wilson at kwilson@outsellinc.com. We value your input and appreciate your time. The results of this study will provide invaluable insights into the strategic direction for information management functions. For those who completed our Vendor Portfolio Information Management Benchmark study in late 2004 ? your Briefing will be sent to you shortly via email. APOLOGIES FOR CROSS POSTINGS. ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From junus at mail.lib.msu.edu Wed Apr 27 10:35:02 2005 From: junus at mail.lib.msu.edu (Junus, Ranti) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to create a password protected forum/blog Message-ID: <4AA263AB78B5394A8277D4C2A0EE490E01BBC2C1@MAINLIB12.lib.msu.edu> We use WordPress and create several blogs for works. One of them need to be just for members only so we limit access using the same method below. ranti. -- Ranti Junus - Systems 100 Main Library W441 Michigan State University East Lansing, MI 48824, USA +1.517.432.6123 ext. 231 +1.517.432.8374 (fax) > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Blake Carver > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:05 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to create a password protected forum/blog > > > We actually host a few sites that do just that. You should be able to find > a web host that allows you to install any of the popular (or unpopular) > blogging tools, and then just set up a .htaccess password, or > something similar, to limit access. > > ----- > Blake Carver > LISHost.org > Librarian & Information Science Web Hosting > http://lishost.org > From drweb at san.rr.com Wed Apr 27 10:35:16 2005 From: drweb at san.rr.com (Michael McCulley) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to create a password protected forum/blog In-Reply-To: <11138.148.144.175.2.1114606551.squirrel@148.144.175.2> Message-ID: <200504271435.j3REZFgQ018395@ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com> Good suggestions all. I'll throw in the blog hosted Typepad, which can have multiple authors, that can be password protected. I'm running a small test one now, and thus far, seems secure from access and crawlers (search bots). This one isn't free, but fairly cheap. See http://www.typepad.com/ Best, DrWeb -- P. Michael McCulley aka DrWeb mailto:drweb@san.rr.com San Diego, CA http://drweb.typepad.com/ Quote of the Moment: Truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to make sense. Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:18:51 PM >-----Original Message----- >From: web4lib@webjunction.org >[mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Blake Carver >Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 6:05 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to create a password protected forum/blog > >We actually host a few sites that do just that. You should be >able to find >a web host that allows you to install any of the popular (or unpopular) >blogging tools, and then just set up a .htaccess password, or something >similar, to limit access. > >----- >Blake Carver >LISHost.org >Librarian & Information Science Web Hosting >http://lishost.org > From pnaess at usa.no Wed Apr 27 11:08:06 2005 From: pnaess at usa.no (Petter Naess) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: Thanks Re: how to create a password protected forum/blog In-Reply-To: <11138.148.144.175.2.1114606551.squirrel@148.144.175.2> Message-ID: Many thanks for all of the useful responses, I'm very grateful!!!! (I won't have time to go through them until Monday, at which time I will summarize for the list....thanks again!) Petter N?ss Information Resource Director U.S.Embassy, Public Affairs Drammensveien 18 0244 Oslo Norway phone (47) 21308802 fax (47) 22440436 pnaess@usa.no http://www.usa.no http://ircworld.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Blake Carver Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to create a password protected forum/blog We actually host a few sites that do just that. You should be able to find a web host that allows you to install any of the popular (or unpopular) blogging tools, and then just set up a .htaccess password, or something similar, to limit access. ----- Blake Carver LISHost.org Librarian & Information Science Web Hosting http://lishost.org > Can someone recommend a free software or service that would allow one to > create a blog-like (or forum) interface (webbased) through which a closed > group of people could communicate? The dialogue, in contrast to a > conventional blog, would be accessible only to members of the group. > Blogger.com would serve this purpose if it still supported > password-protected sites, but I believe that is a thing of the past. My > objective is to create a discussion group that will function in much the > same way as a listserv, but in which threads will be presented on screen, > as > in a blog or a forum rather than in emails. I'm grateful for suggestions! > From abullen at ameritech.net Wed Apr 27 11:56:38 2005 From: abullen at ameritech.net (A. Bullen) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: Koha use Message-ID: <426FB636.2010204@ameritech.net> Dear all, Has anybody installed/tested in a serious manner Koha (http://www.koha.org/)? The last mention I see of it in the web4lib archives is Jan. 2003. Andrew Bullen Illinois State Library From roy.tennant at ucop.edu Wed Apr 27 12:38:22 2005 From: roy.tennant at ucop.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Koha use In-Reply-To: <426FB636.2010204@ameritech.net> References: <426FB636.2010204@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <582278201aa0fab3041bceaad9eed5e5@ucop.edu> I'm sorry, but I discovered only yesterday that the Web4Lib indexing is broken, and has been, apparently, since February. I am very sorry to everyone who has searched the archive since then, and you can be assured I am investigating the cause and will try to recover it as soon as I can. Until then, you cannot rely on searching to discover recent messages. Now to get to the question, see for a recent message on this topic. Thanks, Roy On Apr 27, 2005, at 9:02 AM, A. Bullen wrote: > Dear all, > > Has anybody installed/tested in a serious manner Koha > (http://www.koha.org/)? The last mention I see of it in the web4lib > archives is Jan. 2003. > > Andrew Bullen > Illinois State Library > > From jmf at liblime.com Wed Apr 27 12:52:31 2005 From: jmf at liblime.com (Joshua Ferraro) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Koha use In-Reply-To: <426FB636.2010204@ameritech.net> References: <426FB636.2010204@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <20050427165231.GA14165@gandalf.liblime.com> Hi Andrew, So far, the only public library in the US using Koha is the Nelsonville Public Library System in Athens County Ohio. Their catalog is here: http://search.athenscounty.lib.oh.us I'm the sys admin for Nelsonville and we've been using Koha for over two years now -- we're very happy both with the price and with the level of control we have over the functionality of the system. After talking with library directors at conferences where I've presented on Koha, it became clear to me that the main reason libraries in the US were not implementing it was because of the lack of vendor services: most libraries simply don't have the in-house resources or local provider contacts to ensure success. With these concerns in mind, several business partners and I started a company for providing vendor services on open-source software, including Koha. In fact, our site just launched this month: http://liblime.com We provide full vendor services on Koha including migration assistance, staff training, and software maintenance, support and development. You can take LibLime's 'Koha features tour' here: http://liblime.com/c/koha.html You can also try out Koha in LibLime's 'virtual library' demos: http://liblime.com/c/demos.html Our mission is to make open-source software like Koha accessible to libraries who can support it themselves. If you have any questions about functionality, scalability, etc., I'd be happy to answer them on or off list. Let me also say that if you're a library that does have the resources to support Koha in-house, please consider it seriously. One of the main 'selling points' with open-source software is that you have control over the quality of the software. Developing a new feature or improving an old one costs much less than paying yearly license fees. -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE CEO, LIBLIME migration, training, maintenance, support jmf@liblime.com Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter 1(740)707-7654 TRY OUR FULL DEMOS AT http://liblime.com From johnsts at stolaf.edu Wed Apr 27 15:07:28 2005 From: johnsts at stolaf.edu (Sarah Johnston) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: Job Posting: Catalog & Metadata Librarian, St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN Message-ID: <426FE2F0.5050808@stolaf.edu> POSITION TITLE: Catalog & Metadata Librarian REPORTS TO: College Librarian PRIMARY FUNCTION: This position coordinates the work of the cataloging department, and works with other departments in the library and with constituencies across campus to provide quick and reliable access to quality information about a wide range of material in multiple genres, languages, and formats. AREAS OF RESPONSIBILITY: 1. Performs original and complex copy cataloging for a wide range of formats, emphasizing monographs, media, and online resources. Employs traditional cataloging principles and practices in description, classification, subject analysis, and authority control, as well as emerging metadata schemas used to make electronic and other resources accessible. 2. Serves as coordinator of the cataloging department. Convenes departmental meetings. Stays abreast of new developments relevant to the department's work, and keeps such developments at the forefront of the department's priorities and vision. Coordinates and facilitates workflow and decision-making within and between departments. Completes job evaluations according to library and H.R. procedures. Serves as a resource person concerning OCLC, cataloging, classification, database maintenance, record loading and workflow issues. 3. Working closely with the Systems Librarian, plans and organizes efforts to digitize material for the purposes of preservation, searching, wider dissemination, and ease of access. 4. Works collaboratively with all staff in technical services (acquisitions, serials, cataloging, and government documents) as well as with other segments of the library, campus, and Carleton College on information organization & access needs. 5. Devotes 5 hours/wk. to cataloging at the Kierkegaard Library (an independent library that resides on campus and shares our catalog). Serves as liaison between the St. Olaf and Kierkegaard Libraries. 6. Devotes a few hours per month to cataloging material from the Norwegian American Historical Association that resides in Rølvaag Library. 7. Serves on committees or task forces as needed, including those committees and task forces that govern and operate the joint Carleton/St. Olaf catalog. 8. Participates in appropriate local, regional, and national associations. 9. Other duties as assigned. SUPERVISORY RESPONSIBILITIES: Serves as coordinator for three staff, including the Music Catalog Librarian and two Cataloging Associates. CONTACTS: All library staff, IIT, the archives, the Norwegian-American Historical Association, and the Kierkegaard Library. St. Olaf Campus community and the greater local community. EDUCATION: Essential: B.A. in a field of the liberal arts. M.L.S. or M.A./M.S. in Library Science, accredited by the A.L.A. or equivalent foreign agency. Reading knowledge of at least one foreign language. Desirable: Reading knowledge of a Northern-European language, particularly German and Norwegian and/or Danish. EXPERIENCE: Essential: Five years of increasingly responsible experience in cataloging and the technological aspects of librarianship. Success in leading projects and guiding teams. Desirable: Significant experience and notable success managing complex projects. Experience cataloging rare books. KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS, ABILITIES: - Excellent interpersonal skills. - Ability to listen, inspire trust, and lead by example. - Must be comfortable working with diverse constituencies and multiple demands. - Good understanding of following: cataloging and organizational theory; technological developments; management theory; workflow theory. - Good knowledge of the disciplines that constitute the liberal arts. - Thorough understanding of trends in the dissemination of scholarly literature. - Excellent analytical skills. PHYSICAL DEMANDS: No significant physical demands. WORKING ENVIRONMENT: Office. WORK SCHEDULE: Full-time Equivalent (FTE): 1.0 Term: Year-round position REPORTS TO: College Librarian PAY RATE: Minimum $45,280 - DOQ (Grade 13) START DATE: September 1, 2005 Review of applications begins May 16, 2005 and continues until position is filled. Please send letter of interest, resume, and list of three references with contact information. TO APPLY deliver, mail, email, or fax your application materials to: Office of Human Resources, St. Olaf College, 1520 St. Olaf Avenue, Northfield, MN 55057 Fax: 507.646.3960 Email to: resume@stolaf.edu Questions call: 507.646.3068 If you are in need of assistance with the application process, please inform someone in Human Resources so that appropriate accommodations can be made. St. Olaf College is an affirmative action/equal opportunity employer and actively seeks diversity in its students, faculty and staff. -- Sarah Johnston Reference/Systems Librarian Rolvaag Library, Room 303 1510 St. Olaf Avenue Northfield, MN 55057 507.646.3771 johnsts@stolaf.edu ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From Denyse_Seaman at baylor.edu Wed Apr 27 15:41:37 2005 From: Denyse_Seaman at baylor.edu (Seaman, Denyse) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: Position Announcement, Baylor University, Waco, TX Message-ID: <26815A0B3111BC4AB6BE3FD09F7AE43101A7EBE7@FS-EXCHANGE1.baylor.edu> **Cross-posted to several lists** Reference Librarian The Baylor University Libraries invite applications from innovative, service-oriented librarians for the position of Reference Librarian. This is an academic professional position with faculty status. This Reference Librarian position is one of six librarians within the Reference & Library Instruction (RLI) Unit. The Reference Librarian's responsibilities include reference and research assistance for clients, serving as a liaison to assigned academic units, and providing a variety of instruction services to students and faculty. Required qualifications: Master's degree in library or information science from an ALA-accredited program obtained by September 1, 2005; bachelor's degree in a discipline within the humanities or social sciences; demonstrated ability to communicate and work effectively in a academic setting; demonstrated skill using online and print reference resources; and experience in a reference or other library public service setting. Salary & benefits: $35,000 minimum, 12 month contract. Salary will be based upon successful candidate's qualifications and experience. Competitive benefits with 20 days annual leave. Baylor University is located in Waco, Texas, midway between Dallas/Fort Worth and Austin. Waco enjoys a low cost of living and no state or local income tax. For more information about this position, the Libraries, and Baylor University, please visit our website at http://www3.baylor.edu/Library. Send letter of application; resume; and three professional references (names, addresses, telephone numbers, and email addresses) to: Sinai Wood, Reference Librarian Search Committee, One Bear Place #97148, Waco, TX 76798-7148 or Sinai_Wood@baylor.edu. Email submissions must be followed up by a mailed, paper copy. Applications will be reviewed beginning July 1, 2005, and will be accepted until the position is filled. To ensure full consideration, your application must be completed by July 29, 2005. Baylor University is affiliated with the Baptist General Convention of Texas. As an Affirmative Action/Equal Employment Opportunity employer, Baylor encourages minorities, women and persons with disabilities to apply. From kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us Wed Apr 27 16:29:01 2005 From: kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us (Karen Davis) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: Contribute 3 and how to get it all done- continued Message-ID: <200504271529.AA147652746@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Hi all, You guys were so helpful last week when I posted about "how to get it all done" that I thought I should try again :-) My good news is that I may get a green light to set up Contribute 3 one seat at a time within our organization! I would be interested in hearing from Contribute 3 users about your experiences with getting it up and running- * Do you use a staging or development server? * How do your Contribute "Writers" and "Pubishers" connect to your site (from within Contribute? via secureftp? other means I don't yet know about?) * Did you encounter any problems/roadblocks/ headaches during the initial setup within your organization? *Any other advice/tips about potholes to avoid? TIA for sharing! Karen -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From bernies at uillinois.edu Wed Apr 27 16:32:39 2005 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: More on Google digitization and Europe Message-ID: "Nineteen European national libraries have joined forces against a planned communications revolution by Internet search giant Google to create a global virtual library, organizers said Wednesday. The 19 libraries are backing instead a multi-million euro counter-offensive by European nations to put European literature online." Full text at: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1566717,00.html Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant, ILCSO University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 616 E. Green Street, Suite 213 Champaign, IL 61820 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 265-0454 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Wed Apr 27 18:39:37 2005 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: RSS Feed for LibWireless List Message-ID: There is now a RSS feed available for LibWireless. It is at: http://rss.gmane.org/gmane.network.wireless.libwireless.general. It is provided as part of piping LibWireless through GMANE. Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference Morrisville State College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net Wireless Libraries: http://wirelesslibraries.blogspot.com Library: http://library.morrisville.edu/ SUNYConnect: http://www.sunyconnect.suny.edu/ My Blog: http://babyboomerlibrarian.blogspot.com/ "To teach is to learn twice." - Joseph Joubert From lars at aronsson.se Wed Apr 27 22:26:55 2005 From: lars at aronsson.se (Lars Aronsson) Date: Wed May 18 14:18:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] More on Google digitization and Europe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bernie Sloan quoted Deutsche Welle: > "Nineteen European national libraries have joined forces against > a planned communications revolution by Internet search giant > Google to create a global virtual library, organizers said If the plans for Google Print, as described in the press release, are indeed perceived as a "communications revolution", then I must congratulate the marketing and publicity people at Google. Maybe we were impressed by the engineers at Google, but the marketing side of that firm surely is not lagging behind. What the press release (in December) said is that ten years from now, Google Print is going to have 15 million volumes digitized. I believe so too, but predicting anything ten years into the future is science fiction. Just think where we were ten years ago, and try even to predict the dotcom crash. Google, founded in 1998, hasn't been around for ten years yet. Project Gutenberg (gutenberg.org) was indeed around ten years ago, and has a track record of doubling their collection every year. They now have 15,000 books online, so ten years from now they could have 15 million books, since 2 to the power of 10 is 1024. Google Print needs only to copy and index them. Any problems with Project Gutenberg's textual quality so far, need only be a problem in the oldest 15,000 e-books out of 15 million. My own Project Runeberg (runeberg.org) was also around ten years ago. Its growth has been less continuous than that of PG, but we currently have some 800 volumes of classic Scandinavian literature online and are now doubling annually. Doing this entirely on a volunteer basis, we are leaving the current digitization efforts of the national libraries in Denmark, Finland and Sweden (as mentioned among the 19 in the Deutsche Welle article) far behind. This could change in the course of ten years, so we limit our predictions to a few months. Still, why would we feel a "threat" from Google or anybody else? Google is our best friend. That's how people find our books. The only reason I can see for portraying Google (or anything American) as a threat is that it appears to be a working solution for attracting funding from the European Union. Our national libraries are far better at this than they are on digitization. I couldn't find any news or announcements on this new European deal on www.kb.dk, www.lib.helsinki.fi or www.kb.se. Neither at www.ddb.de. Bibliotheque nationale de France has a collection of articles at http://www.bnf.fr/pages/dernmin/com_google.htm but nothing is mentioned about the 19 country coallition. -- Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) Project Runeberg - free Nordic literature - http://runeberg.org/ From Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org Thu Apr 28 10:37:43 2005 From: Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org (Walt_Crawford@notes.rlg.org) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: Cites & Insights 5:7 available Message-ID: Cites & Insights: Crawford at Large 5:7, May 2005, a journal of libraries, policy, technology, and media, is now available for downloading at http://cites.boisestate.edu/civ5i7.pdf This 22-page issue (PDF as always, but most essays are available as HTML from the cites.boisestate.edu home page) includes: * (C)3 Perspective: FMA: Watching the Way You Want -- comments on the Family Entertainment and Copyright Act, more specifically the Family Movie Act that's part of it * Following Up: four corrections and clarifications * (C)3: Balancing Rights - including notes on piracy, P2P, DRM, and more. * Offtopic Perspective: Family Classics 50 Movie Pack, Part 2 - more comments on more old movies, including a half-silent/half-sound movie, Fred Astaire on the walls and ceiling, and a silent movie with talking and sound throughout. * Ethical Perspective: Weblogging Ethics and Impact * Session Report: ACRL 2005 - Joy Weese Moll reports on "What's Next? Academic Libraries in a Google Environment" From kcoyle at kcoyle.net Thu Apr 28 11:29:47 2005 From: kcoyle at kcoyle.net (Karen Coyle) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: More on Google digitization and Europe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4271016B.8000002@kcoyle.net> I feel a need to point out some differences between some of these digitization projects, because the differences are significant. Google is scanning texts, running them through OCR, and creating indexes based on *un-corrected* OCR. So they aren't interested in reproducing the text itself as text, and are using a "good enough" approach to access. It's kind of a quantity vs. quality approach. It reminds me of a remark made by a Stanford CS student after I gave a lecture to his class showing them what they miss when they do keyword searching on the net. His comment was: "But I always get something." Google will be delivering something. We don't even know if their quality control is such that they will notice if their scanning process misses some pages. I would bet that they won't do inserts or tipped-in pages, especially if they aren't standard size. This is not a criticism of the Google project; they've chosen this method as an economic way to do something that would be unaffordable otherwise. It's a simple trade-off. But the resulting files may not be a viable digital substitute for the book, and I would be hesitant to consider them as preservation quality copies. Project Gutenberg focuses on the text qua text, with its claim that plain text is the most "universal" format. As such, it loses the "artifact" quality of the book, such as fonts, page numbers, layout, and presumably any illustrations as well. Again, they made a trade-off, since their main goal is delivering texts as inexpensively as possible over the Net. Some projects, like the University of Virginia e-text project, work very hard to retain the "feel" of the original item, making a careful selection of items to work with, and reproducing images. I assume that they have done strict quality control. They do not have a large quantity of items. The Runeberg project appears to have a similar philosophy. These digital could be used for careful study of the text as well as giving a glimpse into the nature of the original hard copy item. Each of these projects converts some hardcopy materials to a digital format. But that's where the similarity ends. kc Lars Aronsson wrote: >Bernie Sloan quoted Deutsche Welle: > > > >>"Nineteen European national libraries have joined forces against >>a planned communications revolution by Internet search giant >>Google to create a global virtual library, organizers said >> >> > >If the plans for Google Print, as described in the press release, >are indeed perceived as a "communications revolution", then I must >congratulate the marketing and publicity people at Google. Maybe >we were impressed by the engineers at Google, but the marketing >side of that firm surely is not lagging behind. > >What the press release (in December) said is that ten years from >now, Google Print is going to have 15 million volumes digitized. >I believe so too, but predicting anything ten years into the >future is science fiction. Just think where we were ten years >ago, and try even to predict the dotcom crash. Google, founded in >1998, hasn't been around for ten years yet. > >Project Gutenberg (gutenberg.org) was indeed around ten years ago, >and has a track record of doubling their collection every year. >They now have 15,000 books online, so ten years from now they >could have 15 million books, since 2 to the power of 10 is 1024. >Google Print needs only to copy and index them. Any problems with >Project Gutenberg's textual quality so far, need only be a problem >in the oldest 15,000 e-books out of 15 million. > >My own Project Runeberg (runeberg.org) was also around ten years >ago. Its growth has been less continuous than that of PG, but we >currently have some 800 volumes of classic Scandinavian literature >online and are now doubling annually. Doing this entirely on a >volunteer basis, we are leaving the current digitization efforts >of the national libraries in Denmark, Finland and Sweden (as >mentioned among the 19 in the Deutsche Welle article) far behind. >This could change in the course of ten years, so we limit our >predictions to a few months. Still, why would we feel a "threat" >from Google or anybody else? Google is our best friend. That's >how people find our books. > >The only reason I can see for portraying Google (or anything >American) as a threat is that it appears to be a working solution >for attracting funding from the European Union. Our national >libraries are far better at this than they are on digitization. > >I couldn't find any news or announcements on this new European >deal on www.kb.dk, www.lib.helsinki.fi or www.kb.se. Neither at >www.ddb.de. Bibliotheque nationale de France has a collection of >articles at http://www.bnf.fr/pages/dernmin/com_google.htm but >nothing is mentioned about the 19 country coallition. > > > > -- ----------------------------------- Karen Coyle / Digital Library Consultant kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://www.kcoyle.net ph.: 510-540-7596 fx.: 510-848-3913 mo.: 510-435-8234 ------------------------------------ From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Thu Apr 28 12:03:15 2005 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: More on Google digitization and Europe Message-ID: I would strongly suggest people read the column by Joy Weese Moll reporting on a presentation at ACRL 2005 in Cites & Insights. I found it clarified what Google is doing and should cut some of the misunderstandings out there. Bill Drew From roy.tennant at ucop.edu Thu Apr 28 12:23:22 2005 From: roy.tennant at ucop.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: More on Google digitization and Europe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <97294d01ad8c7fde1ace351a83d62ee4@ucop.edu> FYI, besides the PDF Cites & Insights version at , there is an HTML version of this part at . Roy On Apr 28, 2005, at 9:11 AM, Drew, Bill wrote: > I would strongly suggest people read the column by Joy Weese Moll > reporting on a presentation at ACRL 2005 in Cites & Insights. I found > it clarified what Google is doing and should cut some of the > misunderstandings out there. > > Bill Drew > > > From cbailey at uh.edu Thu Apr 28 12:41:08 2005 From: cbailey at uh.edu (Charles W. Bailey, Jr.) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: Scholarly Electronic Publishing Weblog (4/25/05) Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20050428113955.02fe7eb0@mail.uh.edu> Below is the latest issue of SEPW, which I am sending as a sample issue to the list. If you are interested in subscribing to this free biweekly e-publication, use this Web form: http://listserv.uh.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=sepw&A=1 For other access methods, see the end of the document. ------------------------------------------------------------ Scholarly Electronic Publishing Weblog April 25, 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------ Next Weblog update on 5/9/05. The Acquisitions Librarian [1] 17, no. 33/34 (2005): Includes "Choices in Cataloging Electronic Journals"; "Electronic Collection Management: Completing the Cycle--Experiences at Two Libraries"; "Electronic Journals in Aggregated Collections: Providing Access Through the Catalog and a Cold Fusion Database"; "ELIN@: Electronic Library Information Navigator--Towards the 'One Stop Shop'"; "The Electronic Librarian: Inching Towards the Revolution"; "Harvesting for Disseminating Open Archives and the Role of Academic Libraries"; "The Impact of Licenses on Library Collections"; "Integrating Print and Electronic Resources: Joyner Library's 'Pirate Source'"; "The Method Behind the Madness: Acquiring Online Journals and a Solution to Provide Access"; "Travels into Several Remote Corners of the Information Universe: A Voyage to the Department of the Houyhnhnmists, or, Licensing Issues and the Integrated Collection"; "Western Michigan University Libraries' 'Electronic Journal Finder'"; and other articles. Collection Building [2] 24, no. 2 (2005): Includes "Developing Criteria for the Withdrawal of Print Content Available Online," "The Development of Electronic Journals in the United Arab Emirates University (UAEU)," "Report on the 6th International Conference on Grey Literature," and other articles. D-Lib Magazine 11, no. 4 [3] (2005): Includes "Social Bookmarking Tools (I): A General Review [4]," "Social Bookmarking Tools (II): A Case Study--Connotea [5]," "Survey of the Providers of Electronic Publications Holding Contracts with Spanish University Libraries [6]," and other articles. DLF Newsletter 5, no. 2 [7] (Spring 2005): Includes a report from New York Public Library [8] and other information. The Electronic Library [9] 23, no. 1 (2005): Includes "Desirable Search Features of Web-Based Scholarly E-Book Systems"; "The E-Book Industry Today: A Bumpy Road Becomes an Evolutionary Path to Market Maturity"; "E-Books in Academic Libraries"; "E-Books in an Academic Library: Implementation at the ETH Library, Zurich"; "Electronic Books: Their Integration into Library and Information Centers"; "An Overview of Electronic Books: A Bibliography"; and other articles. IFLA Journal 31, no. 1 [10] (2005): Includes "Citations and Links as a Measure of Effectiveness of Online LIS Journals," "Copyright Protection as Access Barrier for People Who Read Differently: The Case for an International Approach," and other articles. Information Research 10, no. 3 [11] (2005): "Intellectual Property Rights vs. Public Access Rights: Ethical Aspects of the DeCSS Decryption Program [12]" and other articles. The Journal of Academic Librarianship [13] 31, no. 2 (2005): Includes "Understanding Metadata and Its Purpose" and other articles. Journal of the American Society for Information Science and Technology [14] 56, no. 7 (2005): Includes "The Impact of Impermanent Web-Located Citations: A Study of 123 Scholarly Conference Publications" and other articles. Library Collections, Acquisitions, and Technical Services [15] 29, no. 1 (2005): Includes "Challenges in Managing E-Books Collections in UK Academic Libraries," "Electronic or Print Books: Which Are Used?," "Library and Information Science Journals: An Editor Survey," and other articles. Library Journal, 15 April 2005 [16]: Includes "Choosing Sides--Periodical Price Survey 2005 [17]," "Google Scholar Links with Libs. [18]," "Life After the NIH [19]," and other articles. portal: Libraries and the Academy [20] 5, no. 2 (2005): Includes "Digital Authenticity and Integrity: Digital Cultural Heritage Documents as Research Resources," "Model for Presenting Resources in Scholar's Portal," "The Preservation of Digital Content," "Web Citation by Graduate Students: A Comparison of Print and Electronic Theses," and other articles. RLG DigiNews 9, no. 2 [21] (2005): Includes "Automating Preservation: New Developments in the PRONOM Service [22]," "A Comparison Between Migration and Emulation in Terms of Costs [23]," and other articles. Technology Review (May 2005 [24]): Includes "Google and the Coming Search Wars, Revisited [25]," "The Infinite Library [26]," and other articles. ------------------------------------------------------------ http://info.lib.uh.edu/sepb/sepw.htm Copyright ? 2005 by Charles W. Bailey, Jr. This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial License. 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Houston: University of Houston Libraries, 1996-2005. http://info.lib.uh.edu/sepb/sepb.html SEPW Mailing List Subscription http://info.lib.uh.edu/sepb/sepwlist.htm Atom Feed http://sepw.blogspot.com/atom.xml RSS Reed (FeedBurner) http://feeds.feedburner.com/ScholarlyElectronicPublishingWeblogrss Open Access Bibliography: Liberating Scholarly Literature with E-Prints and Open Access Journals http://info.lib.uh.edu/cwb/oab.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ [1] http://www.haworthpress.com/store/TOC.asp?sku=J101 [2] http://caliban.emeraldinsight.com/vl=6763612/cl=95/nw=1/rpsv/cw/www/mcb/01604953/contp1.htm [3] http://www.dlib.org/dlib/april05/04contents.html [4] http://www.dlib.org/dlib/april05/hammond/04hammond.html [5] http://www.dlib.org/dlib/april05/lund/04lund.html [6] http://www.dlib.org/dlib/april05/alvite/04alvite.html [7] http://www.diglib.org/pubs/news05_02/ [8] http://www.diglib.org/pubs/news05_02/nyplnews5.pdf [9] http://zerlina.emeraldinsight.com/vl=1350183/cl=28/nw=1/rpsv/cw/www/mcb/02640473/contp1.htm [10] http://ifla.org/V/iflaj/IFLA-Journal-1-2005.pdf [11] http://informationr.net/ir/10-3/infres103.html [12] http://informationr.net/ir/10-3/paper230.html [13] http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=JournalURL&_cdi=6556&_auth=y&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=3a10a6fa76a3cbaaa079ef9061cb353a [14] http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/jhome/76501873 [15] http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/14649055 [16] http://www.libraryjournal.com/toc/4/15/2005 [17] http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA516819 [18] http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA516043 [19] http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA516022 [20] http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/pla/ [21] http://www.rlg.org/en/page.php?Page_ID=20571 [22] http://www.rlg.org/en/page.php?Page_ID=20571#article1 [23] http://www.rlg.org/en/page.php?Page_ID=20571#article0 [24] http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/05/05/issue/mag_toc.asp [25] http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/05/04/wo/wo_040405ferguson.asp [26] http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/05/05/issue/feature_library.asp From nlm25 at georgetown.edu Thu Apr 28 12:27:08 2005 From: nlm25 at georgetown.edu (Nina McHale) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: More on Google digitization and Europe Message-ID: <42710EDC.9060605@georgetown.edu> A little humor: I forwarded the Deutsche Welle link to my colleagues, and one (who, he admitted, has begun reading the novelization of Episode III: Revenge of the Clones a little early) had the following to offer (forwarded with his permission): "The library wars, begun they have." Yoda, Master Librarian "Leave them to me, I will deal with them myself" Darth Vader, Google Librarian "Hokey consortia and ancient books are no match for a good search engine." Han Solo, Chief Google Tactical Officer "Any attack made by the Europeans against Google would be a useless gesture, no matter what technical data they have obtained. Google is now the ultimate power in the universe. I suggest we use it." Admiral Motti, Google PR Head -- Nina McHale Reference Librarian/Web Services Coordinator Lauinger Library Georgetown University Washington, DC 20057 nlm25@georgetown.edu 202-687-6818 From ppival at ucalgary.ca Thu Apr 28 13:36:10 2005 From: ppival at ucalgary.ca (Paul R. Pival) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: Searching Google Print Message-ID: <42711F0A.5040506@ucalgary.ca> Unless I missed it earlier, there's been a change with the searchability of Google Print. In my memory you could only search Google main and get some Print results towards the top, but now you can actually run a search from http://print.google.com/print?q=your query here and ONLY get Google Print results. Once on the results page you'll see a search box where you can query away :-) I've updated my bookmarklets to now include one for Google Print: http://distlib.blogs.com/distlib/2005/04/google_print_bo.html -- Paul R. Pival Distance Education Librarian 213E MLT University of Calgary Calgary, Alberta T2N 1N4 *Phone: Toll Free: Fax: email: Website: * (403) 220-2119 1 (866) 210-9637 (403) 282-6837 ppival@ucalgary.ca Library Connection ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From dsilvers at lakeland.cc.il.us Thu Apr 28 14:08:17 2005 From: dsilvers at lakeland.cc.il.us (Scott Drone-Silvers) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] More on Google digitization and Europe In-Reply-To: <42710EDC.9060605@georgetown.edu> Message-ID: Or to borrow a ST:TNG theme: "We are the Google. Drop your ILS and prepare to be assimilated. Resistance is futile" on 4/28/05 11:55 AM, Nina McHale at nlm25@georgetown.edu wrote: > A little humor: I forwarded the Deutsche Welle link to my colleagues, > and one (who, he admitted, has begun reading the novelization of Episode > III: Revenge of the Clones a little early) had the following to offer > (forwarded with his permission): > > "The library wars, begun they have." > Yoda, Master Librarian > > "Leave them to me, I will deal with them myself" > Darth Vader, Google Librarian > > "Hokey consortia and ancient books are no match for a good search engine." > Han Solo, Chief Google Tactical Officer > > "Any attack made by the Europeans against Google would be a useless > gesture, no matter what technical data they have obtained. Google is now > the ultimate power in the universe. I suggest we use it." > Admiral Motti, Google PR Head Scott Drone-Silvers Director of Library Services Lake Land College 5001 Lake Land Blvd. Mattoon, IL 61938 (217) 234-5338 / FAX (217) 234-5533 Web Page: http://www.lakelandcollege.edu/library/ From rboulton at linc.lib.il.us Thu Apr 28 14:21:45 2005 From: rboulton at linc.lib.il.us (Robin Boulton) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: More on Google digitization and Europe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7E6A8131A5C1F245BE3AA68781ACF927195DD6@dellstaff2.scplnet.lib.il.us> "All your searches are belong to us!" > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] > On Behalf Of Scott Drone-Silvers > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:11 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: More on Google digitization and Europe > > Or to borrow a ST:TNG theme: > > "We are the Google. Drop your ILS and prepare to be assimilated. > Resistance > is futile" > > > on 4/28/05 11:55 AM, Nina McHale at nlm25@georgetown.edu wrote: > > > A little humor: I forwarded the Deutsche Welle link to my colleagues, > > and one (who, he admitted, has begun reading the novelization of Episode > > III: Revenge of the Clones a little early) had the following to offer > > (forwarded with his permission): > > > > "The library wars, begun they have." > > Yoda, Master Librarian > > > > "Leave them to me, I will deal with them myself" > > Darth Vader, Google Librarian > > > > "Hokey consortia and ancient books are no match for a good search > engine." > > Han Solo, Chief Google Tactical Officer > > > > "Any attack made by the Europeans against Google would be a useless > > gesture, no matter what technical data they have obtained. Google is now > > the ultimate power in the universe. I suggest we use it." > > Admiral Motti, Google PR Head > > > Scott Drone-Silvers > Director of Library Services > Lake Land College > 5001 Lake Land Blvd. > Mattoon, IL 61938 > (217) 234-5338 / FAX (217) 234-5533 > Web Page: http://www.lakelandcollege.edu/library/ > > > From xyu at vcu.edu Thu Apr 28 14:57:14 2005 From: xyu at vcu.edu (Shaw Yu) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: Blog: Open source vs. commercial In-Reply-To: <200504271529.AA147652746@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504271529.AA147652746@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: <4271320A.9060201@vcu.edu> Hi All, Would you please share your view/experience about using open source blog software (e.g., Nucleus) vs. commercial one (e.g., Movable Type)? Thanks! Shaw Yu (804) 828-0032 Systems Librarian Virginia Commonwealth University Libraries From rboulton at linc.lib.il.us Thu Apr 28 15:15:57 2005 From: rboulton at linc.lib.il.us (Robin Boulton) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Blog: Open source vs. commercial In-Reply-To: <4271320A.9060201@vcu.edu> Message-ID: <7E6A8131A5C1F245BE3AA68781ACF927195DDB@dellstaff2.scplnet.lib.il.us> I like BlogThing (http://www.blogthing.com/) which uses the open source WordPress software. > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] > On Behalf Of Shaw Yu > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:00 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Blog: Open source vs. commercial > > Hi All, > > Would you please share your view/experience about using open source blog > software (e.g., Nucleus) vs. commercial one (e.g., Movable Type)? > > Thanks! > > Shaw Yu (804) 828-0032 > Systems Librarian > Virginia Commonwealth University Libraries From jmf at liblime.com Thu Apr 28 15:18:10 2005 From: jmf at liblime.com (Joshua Ferraro) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Blog: Open source vs. commercial In-Reply-To: <4271320A.9060201@vcu.edu> References: <4271320A.9060201@vcu.edu> Message-ID: <20050428191810.GG17786@gandalf.liblime.com> I use Blosxom (http://www.blosxom.com/) and have been very happy with it. I'm a Perl nut and so being able to actually get to the code and modify how Blosxom works has been a real plus --it's released under an open source license. Joshua On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 11:59:14AM -0700, Shaw Yu wrote: > Hi All, > > Would you please share your view/experience about using open source blog > software (e.g., Nucleus) vs. commercial one (e.g., Movable Type)? > > Thanks! > > Shaw Yu (804) 828-0032 > Systems Librarian > Virginia Commonwealth University Libraries > -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE CEO, LIBLIME migration, training, maintenance, support jmf@liblime.com Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter 1(740)707-7654 TRY OUR FULL DEMOS AT http://liblime.com From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Thu Apr 28 16:34:30 2005 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Blog: Open source vs. commercial Message-ID: I also use blosxom for our library blog at http://lib2.morrisville.edu/blog/. It has never gone down yet. Bill Drew From abullen at ameritech.net Thu Apr 28 16:35:33 2005 From: abullen at ameritech.net (A. Bullen) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: Huge file delivery Message-ID: <42714915.8040005@ameritech.net> All-- Forgive a naive question, but I have never had to deal with the following situation and I don't know how to it off. We will be in receipt of a very large GPS data set consisting of files that total 1 terabyte all together; I think the individual data sets are 20-30 GB a piece. Does anyone have a suggestion how I can successfully distribute files this large on an on-demand basis? I can put them on servers that share a T-3, but I am not sure FTP can handle this size and scope of file transmission. Like I said, probably a naive question, but any insight would be helpful. Andrew Bullen Illinois State Library From steve.oberg at gmail.com Thu Apr 28 16:50:23 2005 From: steve.oberg at gmail.com (Steve Oberg) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Blog: Open source vs. commercial In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42714C8F.2010008@gmail.com> WordPress is excellent (www.wordpress.org). It is very simple to set up and use, yet full-featured. I like it better than Movable Type, a commercial software, which is what runs the two work-related blogs I managed. I've also used Thingamablog (thingamablog.sourceforge.net), which is much more basic but still functional. Steve -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Steve Oberg Family Man Librarian www.familymanlibrarian.com From mike.beccaria at pictometry.com Thu Apr 28 17:06:02 2005 From: mike.beccaria at pictometry.com (Mike Beccaria) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Huge file delivery Message-ID: Andrew, I have used FTP to transfer files of this size pretty often. The NY State GIS web page often has files that exceed this size and they use FTP for their transfers as well. See here for an example: http://www.nysgis.state.ny.us/gateway/mg/livingston_download.htm Best of luck! Mike -----Original Message----- From: A. Bullen [mailto:abullen@ameritech.net] Sent: Thu 4/28/2005 4:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Cc: Subject: [WEB4LIB] Huge file delivery All-- Forgive a naive question, but I have never had to deal with the following situation and I don't know how to it off. We will be in receipt of a very large GPS data set consisting of files that total 1 terabyte all together; I think the individual data sets are 20-30 GB a piece. Does anyone have a suggestion how I can successfully distribute files this large on an on-demand basis? I can put them on servers that share a T-3, but I am not sure FTP can handle this size and scope of file transmission. Like I said, probably a naive question, but any insight would be helpful. Andrew Bullen Illinois State Library From lars at aronsson.se Thu Apr 28 17:19:49 2005 From: lars at aronsson.se (Lars Aronsson) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: More on Google digitization and Europe In-Reply-To: <4271016B.8000002@kcoyle.net> References: <4271016B.8000002@kcoyle.net> Message-ID: Karen Coyle wrote: > Google is scanning texts, running them through OCR, and creating > indexes based on *un-corrected* OCR. So they aren't interested > in reproducing the text itself as text, and are using a "good > enough" approach to access. It's kind of a quantity vs. quality > approach. > [...] > This is not a criticism of the Google project; they've chosen > this method as an economic way to do something that would be > unaffordable otherwise. It's a simple trade-off. Add to this that what Google does today is not necessarily an indication of what they will do tomorrow. My own rough estimate is that buying an old book costs $0.01--0.10 per page, scanning and running OCR costs $0.10--$1.00 per page, and careful proofreading costs $1--$10 per page. You could receive the book for free as a gift, or you could make a volunteer proofread it for free, but there is always a limit to how many such gifts you can receive. These costs indicate how much you can accomplish. With the same resources, would you rather buy a hundred books, scan ten or proofread one? * Buying: Traditional libraries apparently prioritize buying and shelving over digitization. I enjoy shopping for books, but my home is so full of them that I'm holding back. Even though they are within arm's reach, the contents is so unavailable, because I cannot search it. Where did I read this...? I cannot find it. How did people live without running water and searchable books? * Scanning: My experience is that non-proofread OCR text combined with facsimile images is useful enough for many purposes. The scanning effort is often worthwhile even if I were the only reader, but restricting myself to out-of-copyright books that I can share openly makes so much more sense. I personally believe that we will live to see a copyright reform or massive Creative Commons licensing that enables us to digitize and share most works from the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. * Proofreading: Requiring full proofreading and markup severly limits how much you can digitize and publish. Through the web interface for proofreading that we have at Project Runeberg, or through Distributed Proofreaders (pgdp.net), it is very easy to involve hundreds of volunteers in this process. But I think it is a pity that PGDP postpones publishing til after proofing. As a commercial (for-pay, for-profit) service offering, there is a problem to publish non-proofed text because competitors can accuse you of poor quality. But volunteer projects (and most libraries) can afford the attitude to tell their readers to stop whining and do the job themselves. If anybody wants to do a fully proofread and marked up electronic text of a book, it is easier to start with a rough digital facsimile than with the paper book. One prerequisite is that the raw OCR text is openly available, and that volunteers are given a chance to help in proofreading. I don't know if Google has any plans in this direction. Maybe they read Web4Lib and are getting ideas. -- Lars Aronsson (lars@aronsson.se) Project Runeberg - free Nordic literature - http://runeberg.org/ From mike.beccaria at pictometry.com Thu Apr 28 18:40:59 2005 From: mike.beccaria at pictometry.com (Mike Beccaria) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Huge file delivery Message-ID: Whoops. Someone pointed out my silly mistake...I have never sent 20-30GB file sets over FTP. I read it fast and assumed they were MB's. I think there are problems (sometimes) sending files over 2GB with FTP. Is it possible to use an archiving utility (winrar comes to mind) that can break the file down into smaller chunks and then use FTP? Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mike Beccaria Sent: Thu 4/28/2005 5:06 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Cc: Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Huge file delivery Andrew, I have used FTP to transfer files of this size pretty often. The NY State GIS web page often has files that exceed this size and they use FTP for their transfers as well. See here for an example: http://www.nysgis.state.ny.us/gateway/mg/livingston_download.htm Best of luck! Mike -----Original Message----- From: A. Bullen [mailto:abullen@ameritech.net] Sent: Thu 4/28/2005 4:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Cc: Subject: [WEB4LIB] Huge file delivery All-- Forgive a naive question, but I have never had to deal with the following situation and I don't know how to it off. We will be in receipt of a very large GPS data set consisting of files that total 1 terabyte all together; I think the individual data sets are 20-30 GB a piece. Does anyone have a suggestion how I can successfully distribute files this large on an on-demand basis? I can put them on servers that share a T-3, but I am not sure FTP can handle this size and scope of file transmission. Like I said, probably a naive question, but any insight would be helpful. Andrew Bullen Illinois State Library From roy.tennant at ucop.edu Thu Apr 28 18:58:49 2005 From: roy.tennant at ucop.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Huge file delivery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <81f14abfd563799ce3e5af2d45824fce@ucop.edu> Although I haven't found a definitive answer on this (yet), I highly doubt the protocol itself has any such limitation. So we're really talking about possible limitations of servers and clients. To use one example, this client claims to support file sizes of up to 64GB. Also, as I suggested to Andrew privately, it shouldn't be too hard to test. Roy On Apr 28, 2005, at 3:46 PM, Mike Beccaria wrote: > Whoops. Someone pointed out my silly mistake...I have never sent > 20-30GB file sets over FTP. I read it fast and assumed they were MB's. > I think there are problems (sometimes) sending files over 2GB with > FTP. Is it possible to use an archiving utility (winrar comes to mind) > that can break the file down into smaller chunks and then use FTP? > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Beccaria > Sent: Thu 4/28/2005 5:06 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Cc: > Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Huge file delivery > > > > Andrew, > > I have used FTP to transfer files of this size pretty often. The NY > State GIS web page often has files that exceed this size and they use > FTP for their transfers as well. See here for an example: > http://www.nysgis.state.ny.us/gateway/mg/livingston_download.htm > > Best of luck! > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: A. Bullen [mailto:abullen@ameritech.net] > Sent: Thu 4/28/2005 4:39 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Cc: > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Huge file delivery > > > > All-- > > Forgive a naive question, but I have never had to deal with > the > following situation and I don't know how to it off. We will > be in > receipt of a very large GPS data set consisting of files that > total 1 > terabyte all together; I think the individual data sets are > 20-30 GB a > piece. > > Does anyone have a suggestion how I can successfully > distribute files > this large on an on-demand basis? I can put them on servers > that share a > T-3, but I am not sure FTP can handle this size and scope of > file > transmission. > > Like I said, probably a naive question, but any insight would > be helpful. > > Andrew Bullen > Illinois State Library > > > > > > > > > > From jdunck at gmail.com Thu Apr 28 19:55:30 2005 From: jdunck at gmail.com (Jeremy Dunck) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:02 2005 Subject: Fwd: [WEB4LIB] Huge file delivery In-Reply-To: <2545a92c050428140145cfe675@mail.gmail.com> References: <42714915.8040005@ameritech.net> <2545a92c050428140145cfe675@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2545a92c05042816553e005b49@mail.gmail.com> Forgot to reply-all. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jeremy Dunck Date: Apr 28, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [WEB4LIB] Huge file delivery To: abullen@ameritech.net On 4/28/05, A. Bullen wrote: > All-- > > Forgive a naive question, but I have never had to deal with the > following situation and I don't know how to it off. We will be in > receipt of a very large GPS data set consisting of files that total 1 > terabyte all together; I think the individual data sets are 20-30 GB a > piece. > > Does anyone have a suggestion how I can successfully distribute files > this large on an on-demand basis? I can put them on servers that share a > T-3, but I am not sure FTP can handle this size and scope of file > transmission. One of your problems will be successful transmission. For this, BitTorrent is a good option, because it verifies chunks. It's also nice because the more downloaders you have, the more bandwidth is available to other downloaders. BitTorrent has been around a while and it's been somewhat difficult to set up and maintain a tracker, but BlogTorrent is changing that: http://www.blogtorrent.com/ If you want a simpler solution, you might want to use Coral CDN, which is a transparent mirroring system. If you want to mirror http://example.com/your/path/, you'd publish your content as http://example.com.nyud.net:8090/your/path. That's all there is to it. More info here: http://www.coralcdn.org/ Coral does nothing for validation of transmission, though, so your users will have failed downloads, and you'll have higher bills. I think you're right that simple HTTP/FTP will have trouble. As a data point, I am currently downloading (over HTTP) the data for en.wikipedia.org, which is about 30 GB. Lots of web utilities (wget for example) just don't know what to do with that. Yet another idea is Jigdo, which is how Debian distributes their software over the web. http://atterer.net/jigdo/ That takes care of the transmission problem, but it's a bit fiddly and techie. That's what I can think of... From cmurdock at ccfls.org Fri Apr 29 09:18:21 2005 From: cmurdock at ccfls.org (c. murdock) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:03 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Blog: Open source vs. commercial In-Reply-To: <4271320A.9060201@vcu.edu> References: <4271320A.9060201@vcu.edu> Message-ID: <200504290918.21406.cmurdock@ccfls.org> I, too, have been trying out WordPress, and am very impressed. I have a couple of issues with it, in that static pages can't be categorized, and the search function only covers posts, but I think I can find a way around it. Otherwise, I find it flexible, elegant, and simple. Also, if you want to give open source blogging applications a test drive without having to install, visit http://www.opensourcecms.com. There's a huge number of them there you can try. c. _________________________ Cindy Murdock Network Administrator Meadville Public Library | Crawford County Federated Library System meadvillelibrary.org | ccfls.org On Thursday 28 April 2005 02:58 pm, Shaw Yu wrote: > Hi All, > > Would you please share your view/experience about using open source > blog software (e.g., Nucleus) vs. commercial one (e.g., Movable > Type)? > > Thanks! > > Shaw Yu (804) 828-0032 > Systems Librarian > Virginia Commonwealth University Libraries -- From BreakallS at chesterfield.gov Fri Apr 29 09:26:40 2005 From: BreakallS at chesterfield.gov (Breakall, Scott) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:03 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Fwd: Huge file delivery Message-ID: <5D000B78613C1C48989C7A5923B71ABA032EC1B9@franklin.chesterfield.gov> Hello all, Another solution is to use a site like yousendit.com. This site lets you upload a file of up to 1GB (no typo!) and sends an email to the recipient's email address containing a link for them to download the file. Neither the sender nor the recipient needs to log in or sign up or anything. They claim they are "Transferring over 33,973,865,717,760 bytes per day". I've used yousendit.com and it works very well. ~Scott~ -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Dunck Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Fwd: Huge file delivery Forgot to reply-all. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jeremy Dunck Date: Apr 28, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [WEB4LIB] Huge file delivery To: abullen@ameritech.net On 4/28/05, A. Bullen wrote: > All-- > > Forgive a naive question, but I have never had to deal with the > following situation and I don't know how to it off. We will be in > receipt of a very large GPS data set consisting of files that total 1 > terabyte all together; I think the individual data sets are 20-30 GB a > piece. > > Does anyone have a suggestion how I can successfully distribute files > this large on an on-demand basis? I can put them on servers that share > a T-3, but I am not sure FTP can handle this size and scope of file > transmission. One of your problems will be successful transmission. For this, BitTorrent is a good option, because it verifies chunks. It's also nice because the more downloaders you have, the more bandwidth is available to other downloaders. BitTorrent has been around a while and it's been somewhat difficult to set up and maintain a tracker, but BlogTorrent is changing that: http://www.blogtorrent.com/ If you want a simpler solution, you might want to use Coral CDN, which is a transparent mirroring system. If you want to mirror http://example.com/your/path/, you'd publish your content as http://example.com.nyud.net:8090/your/path. That's all there is to it. More info here: http://www.coralcdn.org/ Coral does nothing for validation of transmission, though, so your users will have failed downloads, and you'll have higher bills. I think you're right that simple HTTP/FTP will have trouble. As a data point, I am currently downloading (over HTTP) the data for en.wikipedia.org, which is about 30 GB. Lots of web utilities (wget for example) just don't know what to do with that. Yet another idea is Jigdo, which is how Debian distributes their software over the web. http://atterer.net/jigdo/ That takes care of the transmission problem, but it's a bit fiddly and techie. That's what I can think of... From cstearns at bham.lib.al.us Fri Apr 29 12:45:30 2005 From: cstearns at bham.lib.al.us (cstearns@bham.lib.al.us) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:03 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Blog: Open source vs. commercial Message-ID: <1e1b811e2981.1e29811e1b81@bham.lib.al.us> TextPattern (http://textpattern.com) is another good one, a bit more sophisticated than WordPress...really more of a set of templates for customizing your own CMS in php/mysql. Very slick and elegantly coded, pretty easy to configure for experienced php folks...a bit of a learning curve, particularly for those without a solid understanding of dynamic web apps, but still not too bad. ======================== Chris Stearns Acquisitions System Manager Birmingham Public Library 205-226-3718 cstearns@bham.lib.al.us From alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org Fri Apr 29 12:33:03 2005 From: alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org (Alnisa Allgood) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:03 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Blog: Open source vs. commercial In-Reply-To: <4271320A.9060201@vcu.edu> References: <4271320A.9060201@vcu.edu> Message-ID: At 11:58 AM -0700 4/28/05, Shaw Yu wrote: >Hi All, > >Would you please share your view/experience about using open source blog >software (e.g., Nucleus) vs. commercial one (e.g., Movable Type)? > Well I'm into PHP solutions, and I think one of the best in the field is Expression Engine http://www.pmachine.com/expressionengine/ which is a commercial product. I've used it to develop blogs, nonprofit sites, commercial sites, a neighborhood website, catalogs of data, intermixed cross-tabulation reports, specialized forms, and other PHP apps right into with little issue. It's officially on my highly recommended list. That said, WordPress is also good, a bit more basic, but perfectly acceptable and far better than a number of open source CMS tools. If your just looking for a straight forward blogging tool that's free, and uses PHP/MySQL and has a nice site of pre-defined templates, then that's probably the direction I'd send you. Alnisa From alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org Fri Apr 29 13:52:00 2005 From: alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org (Alnisa Allgood) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:03 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Huge file delivery In-Reply-To: <42714915.8040005@ameritech.net> References: <42714915.8040005@ameritech.net> Message-ID: At 1:39 PM -0700 4/28/05, A. Bullen wrote: >All-- > >Forgive a naive question, but I have never had to deal with the >following situation and I don't know how to it off. We will be in >receipt of a very large GPS data set consisting of files that total 1 >terabyte all together; I think the individual data sets are 20-30 GB a >piece. > >Does anyone have a suggestion how I can successfully distribute files >this large on an on-demand basis? I can put them on servers that share a >T-3, but I am not sure FTP can handle this size and scope of file >transmission. Just a question is, will the users need access to the entire data set? or would it be reasonable to set-up an interface that allows them to pull data from the data set based on a query? Also, I'm assuming that the data doesn't have any HIPAA limitations on it. I ask, just because, you could possible do dual distribution. For those who actually need the full data set, they could download via FTP. And hopefully they also have a T3 connection, or they will be downloading for days. But you could place some basic access data next to the file links (assuming people will come in through the web) indicating approximate download times like 2hrs on a T3 connection, 10hrs on a basic DSL connection, etc. But for those who just need to pull a subset of the data, you could set-up a web interface for the data itself, that queries the data set, displays records to the web or saves as comma separated text file for download. Of course this is partially depended on the actual data format, but I know a number of formats like SAS, and SPSS, and like files that can be converted to access for web use. If most people only need 1000 records out of 1 million or billion, then something like this might work. Alnisa From katcoo at io.org Fri Apr 29 14:44:09 2005 From: katcoo at io.org (Kathy Coorsh) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:03 2005 Subject: Google Mini Message-ID: <001401c54ceb$6e02f400$d9017b0a@corp.cfibfcei.ca> Hello, Does anyone have any thoughts, comments or experiences with Google Mini as a search engine for a website? They have just lowered their price and increased the number of documents. This has made them quite attractive. Has anyone had any experience with it? Kathy Toronto ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From bright at cs.pdx.edu Fri Apr 29 16:40:41 2005 From: bright at cs.pdx.edu (Laura G Bright) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:03 2005 Subject: CFP: OTM 2005 Federated Conferences Message-ID: <200504292040.j3TKefKc010505@pink.cs.pdx.edu> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ OTM 2005 Federated Conferences - Call For Papers ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "On the Move -OTM- to Meaningful Internet Systems and Ubiquitous Computing" 2005 consisting of: - International Symposium on Distributed Objects and Applications (DOA'05) http://www.cs.rmit.edu.au/fedconf/doa2005cfp.html - International Conference on Ontologies, Databases and Applications of Semantics (ODBASE'05) http://www.cs.rmit.edu.au/fedconf/odbase2005cfp.html - International Conference on Cooperative Information Systems (CoopIS'05) http://www.cs.rmit.edu.au/fedconf/coopis2005cfp.html Agia Napa, Cyprus October 31 - November 4, 2005 http://www.cs.rmit.edu.au/fedconf/ BRIEF OVERVIEW: The current and future software needs are towards the development of large and complex Intelligent Networked Information Systems, covering a wide range of issues (such as Data and Web Semantics, Distributed Objects, Web Services, Databases, Workflow, Cooperation, Interoperability, Mobility) as required for the deployment of Internet- and Intranet-based systems in organizations and for e-business. This federated event is unique at providing an opportunity for researchers and practitioners to understand the recent developments in ubiquitous computing. It co-locates three related and complementary successful conferences (DOA = infrastructure, ODBASE = meaning of data, CoopIS = application in organizations). Each of these conferences covers different aspects: theory (i.e. underlying theoretical solutions), conceptual (e.g. technical and conceptual solutions) and applications (e.g. case studies and industrial solutions). SCOPE. All three conferences are about the distributed and ubiquity aspects of modern computing systems, and the resulting application-pull created by the Internet and the so-called "Semantic Web". For DOA'05, the primary emphasis is on the distributed object infrastructure; for ODBASE'05, it is on the knowledge bases and methods required for enabling semantical use; and for CoopIS'05, it is on the interaction of such technology and methods within an organization or network of organizations. As they must, these subject areas overlap and, in fact, the organizers specifically welcome submissions in any of the areas that also emphasize the envisaged impact on or from relevant issues in the others. To stimulate this "cross-pollination", a common program of representative keynote speakers, a joint tutorial program, and a common Industry Track that runs parallel with the entire event are being assembled. SUBMISSION. Instructions are available at: http://www.cs.rmit.edu.au/fedconf/submit.html AREAS OF INTEREST. Broad areas of interest include, but are not limited to: DOA'05 * Enabling Technologies * Middleware * Distributed Objects and Applications * Internet Computing * Web Services ODBASE'05 * Design, Tools, and Methodologies * Ontologies * XML Databases * Web Semantics * Semantic Tools CoopIS'05 * Cooperative Information Systems * Interoperation * Workflow Systems * Enterprise Technologies * Agent Technologies IMPORTANT DATES: * Abstract Submission Deadline: May 24, 2005 * Paper Submission Deadline: May 31, 2005 * Acceptance Notification: August 10, 2005 * Final Version Due: August 25, 2005 * Conference: October 31 - November 4, 2005 FEDERATED EVENT CO-CHAIRS (fedconf@cs.rmit.edu.au) * Robert Meersman, VU Brussels, Belgium * Zahir Tari, RMIT University, Australia DOA'05 PROGRAM CHAIRS (doa2005@cs.rmit.edu.au): * Ozalp Babaoglu, University of Bologna, Italy * H.-Arno Jacobsen, University of Toronto, Canada * Joseph Loyall, BBN Technologies, USA OBBASE'05 PROGRAM CHAIRS (odbase2005@cs.rmit.edu.au) * Michael Kifer, State University of New York at Stony Brook, USA * Stefano Spaccapietra, EPFL, Lausanne, Switzerland CoopIS'05 PROGRAM CHAIRS (coopis2005@cs.rmit.edu.au): * Mohand-Said Hacid, University Claude Bernard Lyon 1, France * John Mylopoulos, University of Toronto, Canada * Barbara Pernici, Politecnico Di Milano, Italy PUBLICITY CHAIR (bright@cs.pdx.edu): * Laura Bright, Portland State University, Oregon, USA LOCAL ORGANISING CHAIR (skevos@cs.ucy.ac.cy): * Skevos Evripidou, University of Cyprus, Cyprus From laplend at monmouth.edu Fri Apr 29 19:14:54 2005 From: laplend at monmouth.edu (laplend) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:03 2005 Subject: Link to Wireless Laptop Survey Results Message-ID: <4272BFEE.50306@monmouth.edu> With apologies for the delays in posting this AND for any cross-postings, here are the results of the surveys I conducted in March. Members of this and other lists were asked to participate in one of 3 concurrent surveys. 228 of you graciously obliged. And I sincerely appreciate the effort of all who took the time to add comments or ask for the results. The link is: http://bluehawk.monmouth.edu/~hholden/WLL/WLibLAN_TitlePage_.html [PLEASE NOTE: The spaces are actually underscoring.] A Note on Format: These web pages were prepared specifically for the presentation that I gave at the latest New Jersey Library Association annual conference (April 11-13th). You will find all the data the surveys yielded but you will not find analysis here. (That was the live narration.) The data created by these surveys (especially Survey A) was not a tsunami to be sure, but I found it enlightening and - sometimes - entertaining. You may too. Disclaimers / Caveats / Bewares: 1. The web site is incomplete. Yes, the survey data is ALL there, but not all of it is in readily analyzable form. I'm working on that. As all research done by organic life forms, this study is subject to errors. In other words: Use the data at your own risk. 2. The content of this gaggle of web pages, like both the best and worst of its cyber-ilk, is copyrighted. I feel like a publisher's thug saying so, but must because I have squeezed a publishable article out of it ('Library Hi Tech,' later this year) and have a second in the works. So, if you use any significant bit of it in any creation of your own, please acknowledge the source. 3. Should you make an original observation, trenchant inference, or funny deduction from what you see, I'd really like to hear it. And, in the event I use said idea in my writing, I will certainly give full credit to the creator. In fact, if said same idea tips the scales at BRILLIANT, I'll ask first (in case it's copyrighted!). Laplend / Hugh Holden laplend@monmouth.edu / hholden@monmouth.edu ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From kgs at bluehighways.com Sat Apr 30 14:28:13 2005 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:05 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Blog: Open source vs. commercial In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050430182815.75A2766@frontend3.messagingengine.com> If you don't have the resources to install and maintain blogging software, and I know that describes some librarians reading Web4Lib, Typepad is a very good solution. For $150 a year, and what you get for it, it's dirt cheap, nice-looking, full-featured, and eliminates the fiddle factor. If fiddling is important to you, or you need other features, consider Wordpress; a bunch of us recently evaluated it for LITA's forthcoming blog and it was our top choice. It doesn't have that ponderous rebuilding problem that creeps into Movable Type when the blog gets bigger, and it's natively strong at user management, far better than Movable Type (for which you can buy a separate workflow for the ridiculously bloated price of $250), which is important if you delegate some content creation or have tiers of publishing permissions, as may be likely in a library. I haven't seen earlier versions but the version of Wordpress I saw was fairly polished. I even installed a Wordpress blog on my own site, just to play with it, and liked what I saw. However, Wordpress has a peeve that as a blogger I find a killer, particularly since I have a Workflow of One. For its RSS 2 feeds, Wordpress natively provides the post comments as a separate feed from the post itself. Movable Type handles that far more elegantly, allowing RSS2 subscribers to see comments on the post itself in their aggregators. I'm sure there's a way around that... or pretty sure... but I track some Wordpress blogs and haven't seen one that has addressed the problem. The comments coming in separately look silly... like, what IS this comment about? If the comments could at least reference the post, they'd make some sense, but far better is when the comments are UNDER the post, which makes the discussion look like what it is, a thread. (Note: always subscribe to your own blog in all flavors it offers.) If you aren't enabling comments (or you don't mind that your readers' comments flutter in randomly, with a "someone left a cake out in the rain" feeling to the discussions), Wordpress is pretty good right out of the box. If someone has a fix for that comment issue, do tell. Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com From cjh8 at calvin.edu Mon Apr 4 11:00:53 2005 From: cjh8 at calvin.edu (Chris Hirt) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:22 2005 Subject: Electronic Services Librarian position available Message-ID: The Hekman Library of Calvin College and Calvin Theological Seminary seeks a highly motivated and energetic librarian to work within a team that provides exceptional service to the members of an academic community that value the library. The successful candidate will exhibit exceptional interpersonal and communication skills, will enjoy teaching and reference work, and will understand the tensions inherent in a library offering both traditional and electronic collections. This faculty position is accountable for all aspects of the Hekman Digital Library (www.calvin.edu/library), including the maintenance of various electronic collections and research tools, designing web pages and tools that enhance access and retrieval of electronic resources, implementing new electronic services, and training library staff and members of the Calvin College community in the use of the Hekman Digital Library. This position also manages the library's ILS - Sirsi and supervises the Systems Programmer. As a member of the Reference, Instruction, and Research Team (RIRT), this position provides reference service, liaison service, and research instruction to the Calvin College community. This position is a regular appointment and carries faculty status within the college. This position requires an ALA-approved Masters; Demonstrated experience with web site design and development, with content management technology, and with appropriate web software and technology is required. Effective and dynamic teaching skills are required. An additional master's degree in one of the sciences is desirable; three or more years of experience in an academic setting is preferred, or equivalent combination of education and experience. Located in Grand Rapids, Michigan, Calvin College has a faculty of 300 and an enrollment of approximately 4,200 students. It is a comprehensive liberal arts college affiliated with the Christian Reformed Church. For more information about Calvin College, visit the college's web site at http://www.calvin.edu/about/. Librarians, as faculty members, are expected to adhere to the historic Reformed/Presbyterian confessions and support the religious identity and educational mission of the college. Application deadline is May 1, 2005. The anticipated start date is August 15 2005. Submit a cover letter, name and contact information for three references, and a resume to: D. Honner Calvin College Human Resources 3201 Burton Street, S.E. Grand Rapids, MI 49546 Phone: 616.526.6737 Fax: 616.526.6832 E-mail: jobs@calvin.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Glenn Remelts, Library Director remelt@calvin.edu 616.526.6072 Calvin College & Calvin Theological Seminary 616.526.6146 (fax) From jrounds at uchicago.edu Mon Apr 4 12:14:51 2005 From: jrounds at uchicago.edu (Justin Rounds) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Java coding help please In-Reply-To: <20050403203010.34129.qmail@web60407.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050403203010.34129.qmail@web60407.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <425167FB.5010402@uchicago.edu> I think your problem might be with "document.body.clientWidth" -- according to my copy of "Dynamic HTML" (a couple of years old but still fairly accurate): "In its effort to institute thie standards-compatible mode in IE 6 for Windows... Microsoft has rendered useless the old trick of using the body element's clientHeight and clientWidth properties to obtain the equivalent of Netscape's window.innerHeight and window.innerWidth properties. In standards-compatibility mode... you must use the html element's clientHeight and clientWidth properties to find these values. Use these effective reference shortcuts: document.body.parentNode.clientHeight document.body.parentNode.clientWidth" Thus try using "document.body.parentNode.clientWidth" instead of "document.body.clientWidth". Hope this helps! _ j Clinton Lowery wrote: > Hi. > > I'm having a coding problem when trying to resize a window for IE > 6.0. > > What I'm trying to do is pull different style sheets for different > screen sizes. Instead of relying on percentages, which gets me close > but no cigar, I'm trying to pull, for example, an 800 width or a 1024 > width depending on the window size. Since Firefox and IE have different > measures, I have to test for the value self.innerWidth to see which is > needed. > > > I'm not sure if my browser is the problem - it may be - as I get "undefined" as a value for frameWidth for the browser I use at work. > > > The function works for Firefox. It does not work for IE at 1024 > resolution however, and I've only found the three measurements to check > by. Can anyone help? > > Thanks. > > Here's the operation: > > var frameWidth; > > if (self.innerWidth) > { frameWidth = self.innerWidth; } > else if (document.documentElement && > document.documentElement.clientWidth) > { frameWidth = document.documentElement.clientWidth; } > else if (document.body) > { frameWidth = document.body.clientWidth; } > > if ( frameWidth > 800 ) > { if ( self.innerWidth ) > { document.write('<'+'link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" > href="http://jpl.coj.net/resources/odr1024-test.css" />'); } > else > { document.write('<'+'link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" > href="http://jpl.coj.net/resources/odr1024ie-test.css" />'); } > } > > else > { if ( self.innerWidth ) > { document.write('<'+'link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" > href="http://jpl.coj.net/resources/odr800-test.css" />'); } > else > { document.write('<'+'link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" > href="http://jpl.coj.net/resources/odr800ie-test.css" />'); } > } > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals > > > ********************************************************************* > Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, > this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there > to a plain text message. > ********************************************************************* > > -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Rounds Graphic Design and Digital Media Specialist Digital Library Development Center University of Chicago 1100 East 57th Street Chicago, Illinois 60637 (773)702-4391 ------------------------------------------- From kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us Mon Apr 4 13:18:29 2005 From: kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us (Karen Davis) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:23 2005 Subject: search engines- free or cheap Message-ID: <200504041218.AA936509740@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> We are currently using Picosearch for our library web site, but are wonering if there are other low cost or free alternatives we should be looking at. Picosearch is costing us 250 per year and is easy to use, but who knows, there might be something even better our there. Recommendations/ suggestions (with short descriptions) would be very much appreciated. -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From abullen at ameritech.net Mon Apr 4 13:29:46 2005 From: abullen at ameritech.net (A. Bullen) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] search engines- free or cheap In-Reply-To: <200504041218.AA936509740@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504041218.AA936509740@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: <4251798A.3060802@ameritech.net> Karen, Swish-E is a wonderful tool. I cannot recommend it highly enough. It takes some patience to get tweaked exactly the way you want it to be tweaked, but once it's in place, it is perfect. The software, etc. can be found at http://www.swish-e.org/. Combine this search engine with the spidering capabilites of wget (http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/wget.html) and you can do pretty much anything you want. I've also had good luck with ht://dig (http://www.htdig.org/); it is, however, tricky to install correctly. It is also not as flexible or as powerful as Swish-E. Andrew Bullen Illinois State Library Karen Davis wrote: >We are currently using Picosearch for our library web site, but are wonering if there are other low cost or free alternatives we should be looking at. > >Picosearch is costing us 250 per year and is easy to use, but who knows, there might be something even better our there. Recommendations/ suggestions (with short descriptions) would be very much appreciated. > > >-- >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Karen Davis, Coordinator >Center for Community Networking & >Web Administrator >Lawrence Public Library >707 Vermont Street >Lawrence, KS 66044 >785.843.3833 ext. 104 > >-- > > > > From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Mon Apr 4 13:47:23 2005 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: search engines- free or cheap In-Reply-To: <4251798A.3060802@ameritech.net> References: <4251798A.3060802@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <42517DAB.4080502@ohiolink.edu> I'll also cast a vote for SWISH-E. Not only is it a good site indexer, but it can be used as an all-purpose full text (including XML) search engine. So when your boss accepts a 10-year archive of the local newspaper and *then* asks you how to make it searchable, you're already armed with a tool that's very capable of doing the job. Thomas Dowling tdowling@ohiolink.edu A. Bullen wrote: > Karen, > > Swish-E is a wonderful tool. I cannot recommend it highly enough. It > takes some patience to get tweaked exactly the way you want it to be > tweaked, but once it's in place, it is perfect. The software, etc. can > be found at http://www.swish-e.org/. Combine this search engine with the > spidering capabilites of wget > (http://www.gnu.org/software/wget/wget.html) and you can do pretty much > anything you want. > > I've also had good luck with ht://dig (http://www.htdig.org/); it is, > however, tricky to install correctly. It is also not as flexible or as > powerful as Swish-E. > > Andrew Bullen > Illinois State Library > From nrcd0300 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 4 14:23:44 2005 From: nrcd0300 at yahoo.com (Sharon Yet) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:23 2005 Subject: Categorization of a Digital Library Message-ID: <20050404182344.26701.qmail@web53408.mail.yahoo.com> Dear All, I am trying to figure out a good classfication scheme for a small digital library (about 2000 f/text titles) and a few access points to improve browsing. LC classification system looks too much universal for our small collection. Are you awared of a good system that may apply for our situation? Our collection is cross-spectrum. It inclues literature, history, philosophy, science, art, political science, etc. Many thanks in advance. Sharon --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From vishwam.annam at wright.edu Mon Apr 4 14:36:32 2005 From: vishwam.annam at wright.edu (Vishwam Annam) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB]Link checker In-Reply-To: <6A46E6188C982E44BF99D3FF7CC94747E76701@bems1.AD.LVCCLD.ORG> References: <6A46E6188C982E44BF99D3FF7CC94747E76701@bems1.AD.LVCCLD.ORG> Message-ID: <42518930.4080204@wright.edu> Lauren, I am also looking for a link checker, and just finished with sorting out a list of availble software in market. See the attached file. I am using Web Accessibility Toolbar which has link checking option, and seems to be working fine for us. It can be downloaded at http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/toolbar/index.html#download Thanks, Vishwam Vishwam Annam Web Developer Wright State University Libraries Stokes Lauren P. wrote: >I am looking for a link checker that will check our databases. We need >the ability to automatically set it for checking periodically through >out the day and send an email and/or a text message to a cell phone for >those databases not connecting or authenticating. Is anyone using a >link checker they would recommend? >=20 >TIA >=20 >Lauren Stokes >Virtual Library Manager >Las Vegas-Clark County Library District >stokesl@lvccld.org >702.507.3414 >=20 > > > >********************************************************************* >Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, >this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there >to a plain text message. >********************************************************************* > > > ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From kgs at bluehighways.com Mon Apr 4 14:38:52 2005 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Categorization of a Digital Library In-Reply-To: <20050404182344.26701.qmail@web53408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050404183856.403D4570360@frontend2.messagingengine.com> > Dear All, > > I am trying to figure out a good classfication scheme for a small digital > library (about 2000 f/text titles) and a few access points to improve > browsing. LC classification system looks too much universal for our small > collection. Are you awared of a good system that may apply for our > situation? Our collection is cross-spectrum. It inclues literature, > history, philosophy, science, art, political science, etc. Many thanks in > advance. > > Sharon Take a look at Librarians' Index to the Internet, http://lii.org . Our home-grown taxonomy just well in usability testing and it's one that has been developed for over a decade by people who work with real people. Our collection is oriented toward librarians and lifelong learners, meaning in the latter case it can't be arcane or Klingon-esque. If you find our taxonomy useful, please do adopt it. On our new site we may even have a topic browser that enables further taxonomical exploration. I agree, and I say this from plenty of experience, LCSH is NOT a good browsing taxonomy for Web resources. We will continue to assign LCSH to our items, but on our new site they will not be prominent affordances on items as they are now. Karen G. Schneider Director, Librarians' Index to the Internet, http://lii.org kgs@lii.org From steve2mccann at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:06:47 2005 From: steve2mccann at gmail.com (Steve McCann) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:23 2005 Subject: library websites and folksonomies Message-ID: <26b0d2e40504041606714d46b3@mail.gmail.com> I'm curious if anyone is thinking about incorporating some type of folksonomy [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folksonomy ] or other type of social software into their libraries' website or, dare I say, OPAC? There's an interesting podcast at IT Discussions by Clay Shirky of NYU, who is advocating moving in this direction. http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail470.html Some of the assertions presented: - Ontologies are a 300 year old hack, a shelf-based paradigm. - Ontologies may be on the wrong side of the "Does the world make sense or do we make sense of the world?" question. - and others My impression is that implementations such as http://del.icio.us/ are fascinating, but not really that useful over the long-term since terms are not static and can't be analyzed over time. Since Google's page rank algorithms are essentially "social" and very successful, there may be something to the idea of adopting a social-software approach in some way. Maybe a citation analysis algorithm which queries an organization's institutional repository? Any thoughts are appreciated. -- Steve McCann Digital Projects Librarian Mansfield Library The University of Montana steve.mccann@umontana.edu "permanently beta" From morbus at disobey.com Mon Apr 4 19:22:36 2005 From: morbus at disobey.com (Morbus Iff) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] library websites and folksonomies In-Reply-To: <26b0d2e40504041606714d46b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <26b0d2e40504041606714d46b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4251CC3C.3000409@disobey.com> > I'm curious if anyone is thinking about incorporating some type of > folksonomy [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folksonomy ] or other type > of social software into their libraries' website or, dare I say, OPAC? Recently, someone asked for library sites using Drupal. I just patched Drupal with folksonomy support. The feedback suggests it's gonna be in core: http://drupal.org/node/19697 -- Morbus Iff ( tomorrow never comes until it's too late ) Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus From ross.singer at library.gatech.edu Mon Apr 4 19:43:01 2005 From: ross.singer at library.gatech.edu (Ross Singer) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] library websites and folksonomies In-Reply-To: <26b0d2e40504041606714d46b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <26b0d2e40504041606714d46b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <32884.208.61.25.90.1112658181.squirrel@208.61.25.90> Steve, At Georgia Tech we are toying with this. We are trying to create an alternative interface to the OPAC (exporting all the bib records as marcxml - most likely to be transformed to MODS) and trying to create a natual language search on top of it. Included in this would be folksonomic tagging (as well as authoritative LCSH) which could be included in the search (but possibly weighted less than authoritative taxonomies - that will be worked out later). Once enough items have been tagged, we will have the ability to map between folksonomic and LCSH (hopefully) so a user could conceivably (using WAG the Dog or some other form) move back and forth between folksonomic interfaces (del.icio.us, Furl, Flickr. unalog - although possibly more likely CiteULike and Connotea) and the OPAC and local resources. I figure that by allowing users to save certain items and searches with their own taxonomies, they will also be (inadverdently) opening up the catalog to other discovery methods. Win win, really. The net can be cast even wider by utilizing this with some sort of metasearch. -Ross. On Mon, April 4, 2005 7:15 pm, Steve McCann said: > I'm curious if anyone is thinking about incorporating some type of > folksonomy [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folksonomy ] or other > type > of social software into their libraries' website or, dare I say, > OPAC? > > There's an interesting podcast at IT Discussions by Clay Shirky of > NYU, who is advocating moving in this direction. > http://www.itconversations.com/shows/detail470.html > > Some of the assertions presented: > - Ontologies are a 300 year old hack, a shelf-based paradigm. > - Ontologies may be on the wrong side of the "Does the world make > sense or do we make sense of the world?" question. > - and others > > My impression is that implementations such as http://del.icio.us/ > are > fascinating, but not really that useful over the long-term since > terms > are not static and can't be analyzed over time. Since Google's > page > rank algorithms are essentially "social" and very successful, > there > may be something to the idea of adopting a social-software > approach in > some way. Maybe a citation analysis algorithm which queries an > organization's institutional repository? Any thoughts are > appreciated. > -- > > Steve McCann > > Digital Projects Librarian > Mansfield Library > The University of Montana > steve.mccann@umontana.edu > "permanently beta" > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This email was composed using the GTEL Webmail client. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or priviledged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Georgia Tech Library and Information Center http://www.library.gatech.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From buff at pobox.com Tue Apr 5 00:46:42 2005 From: buff at pobox.com (William Denton) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:23 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: library websites and folksonomies In-Reply-To: <32884.208.61.25.90.1112658181.squirrel@208.61.25.90> Message-ID: <20050405003952.L67187-100000@as2.dm.egate.net> On 4 April 2005, Ross Singer wrote: : I figure that by allowing users to save certain items and searches with : their own taxonomies, they will also be (inadverdently) opening up the : catalog to other discovery methods. Win win, really. That's pretty wild. I'd love to be able to tag items in my faculty's library with keywords, and then not only come back to them months and years later, but share them with others, and see what my friends (or anyone, even if anonymity meant I didn't know who) have been tagging with what. I'd spend hours and hours browsing that. Tie it in with a ratings system and I'd spend hours and hours more. Bill -- William Denton : Toronto, Canada : http://www.miskatonic.org/ : Caveat lector. From kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us Tue Apr 12 09:34:34 2005 From: kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us (Karen Davis) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:30 2005 Subject: styleguides redux Message-ID: <200504120834.AA33947952@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Hi, all- I would be interested in knowing how others compile and maintain their web site style guides. It seems to me that this could be a time-consuming task or a relatively efficient one, depending upon how it is approached. Any tips would be appreciated. (I plan on using The Associated Press Stylebopok as my starting point). * Is an online version the best way to go? * or pdf format? * online submission form for content developers? *other thoughts? TIA, karen -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From dwuolu at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 10:41:05 2005 From: dwuolu at gmail.com (David Wuolu) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:30 2005 Subject: petition to LexisNexis for direct linking to articles Message-ID: <8bd42b27050412074141c0a90e@mail.gmail.com> In a rather optimistic frame of mind, I've drafted a letter to send to LexisNexis management to request support for direct linking in Academic Universe and other products for libraries. If you'd like to be added to the signature line, please let me know... --Dave P.S. Here's the letter so far: --------------------------------------- Dear Ms. Smith, David Wuolu was informed by Scott Eller at the recent ACRL conference that you might be the person to whom this request should be directed. If this is not correct, please forward them to the appropriate person in LexisNexis management. As librarians who use Academic Universe and other Lexis-Nexis products on a regular basis, we find the lack of support for direct linking to articles increasingly bothersome. Libraries are spending a great deal of money on this product, and it lacks what has become a standard element of interworkability, namely, the ability to directly link to its full text content from a link resolver based upon OpenURL. Please develop the necessary software to support direct linking at the article level for Academic Universe and other LexisNexis products. Sincerely, David Wuolu, College of St. Benedict/St. John's University Barbara Schaffer, SUNY Oswego Bonnie Hines, Louisiana State University at Alexandria Alice Harrison Bahr, Ph.D., Salisbury University Theresa Borchart, Concordia College Martha Rice Sanders, Providence College Michelle Twait, Gustavus Adolphus College Bob Glass, Piedmont College Carole M. Myles, Assumption College Debra Andreadis, Denison University Margaret Cardwell, Christian Brothers University Karin Wikoff, Ithaca College Robin Ewing, St. Cloud State University Julie C. Blake, St. Cloud State University Celia Rabinowitz, St. Mary's College of Maryland Martha J. Kruy, Southern Connecticut State University Christopher J. White, Sage College From suethoma at iusb.edu Tue Apr 12 11:03:12 2005 From: suethoma at iusb.edu (Thomas, Susan Elaine) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:30 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] styleguides redux Message-ID: I highly recommend investing in Refworks Software. It offers over 300 style manuals and is programmed to work with Word to help in creating papers and bibliographies. It also offers unlimited storage for created bibliographies and the option (I believe this costs extra) to share bibliographies. It also contains online help for the various styles with brief information taken from the manuals. It is not difficult to use although some may find it a bit cumbersome to use at first. From their own quotes from students, one student commented that Refworks is "better than Christmas." Susan Susan E. Thomas Head of Collection Development Schurz Library Indiana University South Bend (574) 520-5500 suethoma@iusb.edu -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Karen Davis Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] styleguides redux Hi, all- I would be interested in knowing how others compile and maintain their web site style guides. It seems to me that this could be a time-consuming task or a relatively efficient one, depending upon how it is approached. Any tips would be appreciated. (I plan on using The Associated Press Stylebopok as my starting point). * Is an online version the best way to go? * or pdf format? * online submission form for content developers? *other thoughts? TIA, karen -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Tue Apr 12 11:29:21 2005 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:30 2005 Subject: Blogging Advice needed Message-ID: I am slowly moving content from my personal webpages over to my blog at babyboomerlibrarian.blogspot.com. Other than dating postings to an earlier date, is there any way to post onto a Blogspot blog and not have the post show up in the first page? I am using permalinks and listing the postings in the sidebar for such things as "About Me", publications, and other things that people really don't need to see in their aggregators but that I want moved over to my blog. Wilfred (Bill) Drew Associate Librarian, Systems and Reference Morrisville State College Library E-mail: mailto:drewwe@morrisville.edu AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 BillDrew.Net: http://billdrew.net Wireless Libraries: http://wirelesslibraries.blogspot.com Library: http://library.morrisville.edu/ SUNYConnect: http://www.sunyconnect.suny.edu/ My Blog: http://babyboomerlibrarian.blogspot.com/ "To teach is to learn twice." - Joseph Joubert From katcoo at io.org Tue Apr 12 11:51:31 2005 From: katcoo at io.org (Kathy Coorsh) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:30 2005 Subject: Question about Venture desktop publishing Message-ID: <002401c53f77$7f0ddc00$d9017b0a@corp.cfibfcei.ca> I need to call on your collective experience. Would anyone by any chance be aware of a software program that might convert documents created by Ventura software? Any guidance would be appreciated. K.Coorsh Chief Librarian CFIB Toronto, Canada 416-222-8022 ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From dscharf at nkrassociates.com Tue Apr 12 11:53:14 2005 From: dscharf at nkrassociates.com (dscharf) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:30 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] petition to LexisNexis for direct linking to articles In-Reply-To: <8bd42b27050412074141c0a90e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8bd42b27050412074141c0a90e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050412155314.M57520@nkrassociates.com> I have asked about this repeatedly over the last several years with representatives of Lexis-Nexis, and the response has always been that it was technically very difficult (costly) for them and that they were not planning to do it. Even so, I'd continue to support the idea by continued nagging, though I'm sure they already know this is something many librarians see is needed. Eventually users will come to prefer other content whenever possible, if linking is made too difficult. Surely somebody from Lexis-Nexis reads this list, so why not respond right here? Davida ___________________ Davida Scharf NJ Institute of Technology davida.scharf@NJIT.edu On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:43:19 -0700 (PDT), David Wuolu wrote > In a rather optimistic frame of mind, I've drafted a letter to send > to LexisNexis management to request support for direct linking in > Academic Universe and other products for libraries. If you'd like > to be added to the signature line, please let me know... > > --Dave > > P.S. Here's the letter so far: > > --------------------------------------- > Dear Ms. Smith, > > David Wuolu was informed by Scott Eller at the recent ACRL conference > that you might be the person to whom this request should be > directed. If this is not correct, please forward them to the > appropriate person in LexisNexis management. > > As librarians who use Academic Universe and other Lexis-Nexis > products on a regular basis, we find the lack of support for direct > linking to articles increasingly bothersome. Libraries are spending > a great deal of money on this product, and it lacks what has become > a standard element of interworkability, namely, the ability to > directly link to its full text content from a link resolver based > upon OpenURL. > > Please develop the necessary software to support direct linking at > the article level for Academic Universe and other LexisNexis products. > > Sincerely, > > David Wuolu, College of St. Benedict/St. John's University > Barbara Schaffer, SUNY Oswego > Bonnie Hines, Louisiana State University at Alexandria > Alice Harrison Bahr, Ph.D., Salisbury University > Theresa Borchart, Concordia College > Martha Rice Sanders, Providence College > Michelle Twait, Gustavus Adolphus College > Bob Glass, Piedmont College > Carole M. Myles, Assumption College > Debra Andreadis, Denison University > Margaret Cardwell, Christian Brothers University > Karin Wikoff, Ithaca College > Robin Ewing, St. Cloud State University > Julie C. Blake, St. Cloud State University > Celia Rabinowitz, St. Mary's College of Maryland > Martha J. Kruy, Southern Connecticut State University > Christopher J. White, Sage College From rboulton at linc.lib.il.us Tue Apr 12 12:24:46 2005 From: rboulton at linc.lib.il.us (Robin Boulton) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:30 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Question about Venture desktop publishing In-Reply-To: <002401c53f77$7f0ddc00$d9017b0a@corp.cfibfcei.ca> Message-ID: <7E6A8131A5C1F245BE3AA68781ACF927195D75@dellstaff2.scplnet.lib.il.us> It's been many years since I worked with Ventura, but you might look on the File menu and see if there's an export or convert option that would allow you to output your document as, say, MS Word or Word Perfect. I don't know of any specific utility you could use. > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] > On Behalf Of Kathy Coorsh > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:54 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Question about Venture desktop publishing > > I need to call on your collective experience.=20 > Would anyone by any chance be aware of a software program that might = > convert documents created by Ventura software? Any guidance would be = > appreciated. > K.Coorsh > Chief Librarian > CFIB > Toronto, Canada > 416-222-8022 > > > > ********************************************************************* > Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, > this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there > to a plain text message. > ********************************************************************* From ifrank at lib.usf.edu Tue Apr 12 13:28:43 2005 From: ifrank at lib.usf.edu (Frank, Ilene) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:30 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: styleguides redux Message-ID: <83A7D9F74602294EB7FF81AB36D7F57B32BD40@tiki.fastmail.usf.edu> If your institution has a license for Refworks, you can create as many accounts as you'd like. I have one account that I gave to a group of education faculty who built a shared database of more than 4000 citations which they then winnowed down to the couple of hundred articles they wanted to study. 4000 entries? No problems! RefWorks can be dingy when it creates citations. We always tell everyone to check what gets produced against a style manual, but it's all editable - and the fact that RefWorks is web-based, usuable off-campus, and can act as a big bucket for collecting information about items of interest makes it an good tool for our users. Sincerely, Ilene Frank, ifrank@lib.usf.edu Reference Department Tampa Campus Library, LIB 122 University of South Florida Tampa, FL 33620-5400 (813)974-2483 http://www.lib.usf.edu/ref/ifrank/ -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Thomas, Susan Elaine Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: styleguides redux I highly recommend investing in Refworks Software. It offers over 300 style manuals and is programmed to work with Word to help in creating papers and bibliographies. It also offers unlimited storage for created bibliographies and the option (I believe this costs extra) to share bibliographies. It also contains online help for the various styles with brief information taken from the manuals. It is not difficult to use although some may find it a bit cumbersome to use at first. From their own quotes from students, one student commented that Refworks is "better than Christmas." Susan Susan E. Thomas Head of Collection Development Schurz Library Indiana University South Bend (574) 520-5500 suethoma@iusb.edu -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Karen Davis Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] styleguides redux Hi, all- I would be interested in knowing how others compile and maintain their web site style guides. It seems to me that this could be a time-consuming task or a relatively efficient one, depending upon how it is approached. Any tips would be appreciated. (I plan on using The Associated Press Stylebopok as my starting point). * Is an online version the best way to go? * or pdf format? * online submission form for content developers? *other thoughts? TIA, karen -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From kgs at bluehighways.com Tue Apr 12 13:48:02 2005 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:30 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] styleguides redux In-Reply-To: <200504120834.AA33947952@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: <20050412174810.B69CE570326@frontend2.messagingengine.com> > Hi, all- > I would be interested in knowing how others compile and maintain their web > site style guides. It seems to me that this could be a time-consuming task > or a relatively efficient one, depending upon how it is approached. > > Any tips would be appreciated. (I plan on using The Associated Press > Stylebopok as my starting point). This is how we do it now: with a webpage that gets updated once a year with whatever notes we've managed to dig up from various emails. C minus at best. This is how I'm thinking we might like to do it: with a wiki that allowed us to maintain, structure, and modify the document continuously, also making it easier to read and cite, while continuing to make it available to all to read (since we kill in the styleguide department). Karen G. Schneider Director, Librarians' Index to the Internet http://lii.org kgs@lii.org Websites you can trust! From kirwin at wittenberg.edu Tue Apr 12 15:11:04 2005 From: kirwin at wittenberg.edu (Kenneth R. Irwin) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:30 2005 Subject: petition to LexisNexis for direct linking to articles In-Reply-To: <200504121621.j3CGL14E020542@webjunction.org> References: <200504121621.j3CGL14E020542@webjunction.org> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050412150929.02afcd30@imap.wittenberg.edu> >From: "dscharf" > >I have asked about this repeatedly over the last several years with >representatives of Lexis-Nexis, and the response has always been that it was >technically very difficult (costly) for them and that they were not planning >to do it. The reps I've talked to have said it was not a technical issue but a desire issue; they wanted people to have to use their databases on purpose and not incidentally. I wonder if there is a discernable truth... Ken Ken Irwin kirwin@wittenberg.edu Reference/Electronic Resources Librarian (937) 327-7594 Thomas Library, Wittenberg University From mvagianoslib at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 15:41:15 2005 From: mvagianoslib at gmail.com (Maria Vagianos) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:30 2005 Subject: Software to archive electronic resources Message-ID: Hi all, At our library, we are trying to find a software that can be used as one centralized digital database to access files on different drives, to access our new digitized collection, our audiovisual collection, and to store information rich sources (such as url links) contained in email. Pretty much anything we can throw at it! Right now, we are using ISYS, MSAccess, and other methods by which to access this information.. I researched Swish, for example, but it is smaller and less comprehensive than ISYS. Can you suggest a program by which our data can be automatically and reliably collected, and easily accessed in the future? If you need further information, let me know. Thanks for your help! Maria From mvagianoslib at gmail.com Wed Apr 20 09:33:04 2005 From: mvagianoslib at gmail.com (Maria Vagianos) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: Cataloging computer files Message-ID: Hi all, I need to figure out a way to catalog all data files on our computer drives, and index them in such a way that all staff can later find computer files easily when they do research. Problem is, we have so much data stored all over these drives, that it is very hard to find anything when we really need it. Consequently, if files aren't named, saved and indexed in an organized way, then the information is effectively lost to the researcher. Is there a program you can suggest tthat can help me do this? Thanks for your help! Maria From nordgrle at plu.edu Wed Apr 20 09:56:34 2005 From: nordgrle at plu.edu (Layne Nordgren) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: Position Opening - Digital Media Developer - Pacific Lutheran University Message-ID: <42665F92.9030102@plu.edu> POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT Position: Digital Media Developer Information Resources, Digital Media Center Pacific Lutheran Univeristy General Description: Provide PLU community with proactive assistance, support, and workshops for the development and use of digital media. Manage Digital Media Center hardware, software, and support services. Train, schedule, and supervise student assistants. Collaborate with Web Development Team and Digital Media Production on digital media development projects. For more information and a description of the application process, visit: Please forward to those who might be interested. Thanks! Layne ______________________________________________________ Layne Nordgren Director of Instructional Technologies/Library Systems Digital Media Center, Pacific Lutheran University Tacoma, WA 98447-0013 Phone: 253-535-7197 FAX: 253-535-7315 From ma35 at evansville.edu Wed Apr 20 10:41:57 2005 From: ma35 at evansville.edu (Atwater Singer, Margaret) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: IM IDs on business cards Message-ID: <5C7554D82F4671478985015814A65B773ADA5B@UEEXCHANGE.evansville.edu> Does anyone include their IM IDs on their business cards? My university does not have a formal chat reference service (staffing) but I want students to be able to ask me questions whenever and however suits them best. Any thoughts? M a r g a r e t A t w a t e r - S i n g e r Reference/Instruction Librarian University of Evansville 812.479.2487 From bpulliam at postoffice.providence.edu Wed Apr 20 11:40:32 2005 From: bpulliam at postoffice.providence.edu (Beatrice Pulliam) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IM IDs on business cards In-Reply-To: <5C7554D82F4671478985015814A65B773ADA5B@UEEXCHANGE.evansville.edu> References: <5C7554D82F4671478985015814A65B773ADA5B@UEEXCHANGE.evansville.edu> Message-ID: <426677F0.4040108@providence.edu> I'd be interested in this response as well. We are looking at having a separate b. card for the reference desk and we'll be putting our reference IM handle on that b/c we're adding IM reference as a service. I think I'd rather have students IM me via a generic reference ID vs. my "personal" handle (which I happen to use professionally and personally) Beatrice -- Beatrice R. Pulliam Reference Librarian and Assistant Professor Phillips Memorial Library Providence College 549 River Avenue Providence, RI 02918 401.865.2891 http://www.providence.edu/Academics/Phillips+Memorial+Library/ From cjh8 at calvin.edu Wed Apr 20 11:56:11 2005 From: cjh8 at calvin.edu (Chris Hirt) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Cataloging computer files Message-ID: Maria, Have you tried Google Desktop Search? http://desktop.google.com/ It might be what you're looking for. Chris Hirt Library Systems Programmer Calvin College - Grand Rapids, MI >>> Maria Vagianos 04/20/05 9:52 AM >>> Hi all, I need to figure out a way to catalog all data files on our computer drives, and index them in such a way that all staff can later find computer files easily when they do research. Problem is, we have so much data stored all over these drives, that it is very hard to find anything when we really need it. Consequently, if files aren't named, saved and indexed in an organized way, then the information is effectively lost to the researcher. Is there a program you can suggest tthat can help me do this? Thanks for your help! Maria From rboulton at linc.lib.il.us Wed Apr 20 12:26:23 2005 From: rboulton at linc.lib.il.us (Robin Boulton) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7E6A8131A5C1F245BE3AA68781ACF927195DA0@dellstaff2.scplnet.lib.il.us> There is a commercial alternative also: for years I have used dtSearch, a full-text indexing program (in fact I first came across it as DOS shareware in about 1988). It takes a long time to build an index but it's blazingly fast on searches. I mention it because it works well across multiple network drives which I don't know if Google or Microsoft desktop engines will do (I had the impression that they would only search a C: drive, not D: thru Z: - might be totally wrong about that). > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] > On Behalf Of Chris Hirt > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:58 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files > > Maria, > > Have you tried Google Desktop Search? http://desktop.google.com/ > > It might be what you're looking for. > > Chris Hirt > Library Systems Programmer > Calvin College - Grand Rapids, MI > > >>> Maria Vagianos 04/20/05 9:52 AM >>> > Hi all, > > I need to figure out a way to catalog all data files on our computer > drives, and index them in such a way that all staff can later find > computer files easily when they do research. Problem is, we have so > much data stored all over these drives, that it is very hard to find > anything when we really need it. Consequently, if files aren't named, > saved and indexed in an organized way, then the information is > effectively lost to the researcher. > > Is there a program you can suggest tthat can help me do this? > > Thanks for your help! > Maria > From mike.beccaria at pictometry.com Wed Apr 20 12:33:21 2005 From: mike.beccaria at pictometry.com (Mike Beccaria) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files Message-ID: Google desktop searches all local drives. It will not work on network drives. Of course, Google does sell a product that does this. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Robin Boulton [mailto:rboulton@linc.lib.il.us] Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 12:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Cc: Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files There is a commercial alternative also: for years I have used dtSearch, a full-text indexing program (in fact I first came across it as DOS shareware in about 1988). It takes a long time to build an index but it's blazingly fast on searches. I mention it because it works well across multiple network drives which I don't know if Google or Microsoft desktop engines will do (I had the impression that they would only search a C: drive, not D: thru Z: - might be totally wrong about that). > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] > On Behalf Of Chris Hirt > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:58 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files > > Maria, > > Have you tried Google Desktop Search? http://desktop.google.com/ > > It might be what you're looking for. > > Chris Hirt > Library Systems Programmer > Calvin College - Grand Rapids, MI > > >>> Maria Vagianos 04/20/05 9:52 AM >>> > Hi all, > > I need to figure out a way to catalog all data files on our computer > drives, and index them in such a way that all staff can later find > computer files easily when they do research. Problem is, we have so > much data stored all over these drives, that it is very hard to find > anything when we really need it. Consequently, if files aren't named, > saved and indexed in an organized way, then the information is > effectively lost to the researcher. > > Is there a program you can suggest tthat can help me do this? > > Thanks for your help! > Maria > From cirwin at criminal-sound.com Wed Apr 20 12:40:20 2005 From: cirwin at criminal-sound.com (Charlie Irwin) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: Cataloging computer files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050420113644.02eded90@mail.criminal-sound.com> >Maria, > >Have you tried Google Desktop Search? http://desktop.google.com/ > >It might be what you're looking for. I use GDS on my computer and it's great for finding stuff on an 80 GB drive. However, it doesn't encourage me to be more organized, since it's a Google search. I would be hestitant to suggest it as the official method of finding things on the organization computers. Just a thought... Charlie Irwin "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are for. Sail out to sea and do new things." Grace Hopper ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From mooredp at email.uah.edu Wed Apr 20 12:46:40 2005 From: mooredp at email.uah.edu (David P. Moore) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <01dc01c545c8$89d72040$5c38e592@safeguard.uah.edu> Copernic is free and can handle network drives. David P. Moore Electronic Resources/Business Librarian M. Louis Salmon Library University of Alabama in Huntsville Huntsville, AL 35899 256-824-6285 FAX: 256-824-6083 david.moore@uah.edu http://www.uah.edu/library -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Mike Beccaria Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files Google desktop searches all local drives. It will not work on network drives. Of course, Google does sell a product that does this. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Robin Boulton [mailto:rboulton@linc.lib.il.us] Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 12:27 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Cc: Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files There is a commercial alternative also: for years I have used dtSearch, a full-text indexing program (in fact I first came across it as DOS shareware in about 1988). It takes a long time to build an index but it's blazingly fast on searches. I mention it because it works well across multiple network drives which I don't know if Google or Microsoft desktop engines will do (I had the impression that they would only search a C: drive, not D: thru Z: - might be totally wrong about that). > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] > On Behalf Of Chris Hirt > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:58 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files > > Maria, > > Have you tried Google Desktop Search? http://desktop.google.com/ > > It might be what you're looking for. > > Chris Hirt > Library Systems Programmer > Calvin College - Grand Rapids, MI > > >>> Maria Vagianos 04/20/05 9:52 AM >>> > Hi all, > > I need to figure out a way to catalog all data files on our computer > drives, and index them in such a way that all staff can later find > computer files easily when they do research. Problem is, we have so > much data stored all over these drives, that it is very hard to find > anything when we really need it. Consequently, if files aren't named, > saved and indexed in an organized way, then the information is > effectively lost to the researcher. > > Is there a program you can suggest tthat can help me do this? > > Thanks for your help! > Maria > From library.lisle at gmail.com Wed Apr 20 12:49:45 2005 From: library.lisle at gmail.com (Elizabeth mckenty) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IM IDs on business cards In-Reply-To: <5C7554D82F4671478985015814A65B773ADA5B@UEEXCHANGE.evansville.edu> References: <5C7554D82F4671478985015814A65B773ADA5B@UEEXCHANGE.evansville.edu> Message-ID: In the Library Journal article, "IM me" by Aaron Schmidt & Michael Stephens -- 4/1/2005, Sarah Houghton, E-services librarian, Marin County Free Library, CA.mentions business cards as one of the ways she publicizes IM reference service. I also found a post via Feedster (www.feedster.com ), from Christina's LIS Rant, http://christinaslibraryrant.blogspot.com/2005/03/vr-in-corporate-special-libraries-via.html, where she mentions having her IM user name on her business cards. I know I've seen it elsewhere, but I can't find it now. lislemck (don't IM me 9-5 EST as we're not allowed IM on our PCs) aka Elizabeth McKenty :D On 4/20/05, Atwater Singer, Margaret wrote: > > Does anyone include their IM IDs on their business cards? My university > does not have a formal chat reference service (staffing) but I want students > to be able to ask me questions whenever and however suits them best. Any > thoughts? > > M a r g a r e t A t w a t e r - S i n g e r > Reference/Instruction Librarian > University of Evansville > 812.479.2487 > > ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From krichel at openlib.org Wed Apr 20 13:01:32 2005 From: krichel at openlib.org (Thomas Krichel) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: OAI4 call for contributions and participation Message-ID: <20050420170132.GA4254@openlib.org> The Organizing Committee invites you to attend the CERN Workshop on Innovations in Scholarly Communication (OAI4) from 20th-22nd October 2005. This fourth workshop in the series, which began life as the Open Archives Initiative Workshop in 2001, is a forum for technical issues associated with scholarly communication. Details are found on the conference web site http://cern.ch/oai4 where registration will open from 2nd May 2005. For the first time, a call for contributions is being made. Submissions are welcome from 2nd until 31st May 2005. Contributions to the technical session on Thursday 20 October will deal with the latest in computing and information technology that can be used in scholarly communication or that has been specifically designed for such use. For the Friday, 21 October sessions, we invite contributions on innovative applications of OAI technologies to scholarly communication and issues connected with managing repositories and the relationships with publishers. For the session on Saturday morning, we invite contributions on how OAI technologies can be used to enhance the distribution of primary scientific data. We also invite suggestions for breakout sessions as well as posters for a poster session. These contributions can deal with any issue related innovation in the scholarly communication process. Confirmed sessions are already entered into the agenda but check back from time to time to see the new slots as these are added. Conference announcements will also be placed on the website http://cern.ch/oai4 On behalf of the OAI4 Organising Committee, Thomas Krichel mailto:krichel@openlib.org http://openlib.org/home/krichel RePEc:per:1965-06-05:thomas_krichel From steve.oberg at gmail.com Wed Apr 20 13:02:02 2005 From: steve.oberg at gmail.com (Steve Oberg) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: LexisNexis & OpenURL discussion Message-ID: <42668B0A.1060704@gmail.com> I wanted to belatedly contribute to a recent thread about the ability, or lack thereof, for OpenURL functionality for LexisNexis Academic. I am a member of a group called the LexisNexis Academic Content Advisory Committee. This group is made up of librarians representing various sectors of users (e.g. I represent small college libraries) along with some LexisNexis personnel. The group meets in conjunction with ALA. In the two years I've been part of this group, this issue has been raised several times by librarian representatives. I shared with the group the fact that this issue was raised here on Web4Lib. I think it is safe to say that this issue may be receiving more attention from LexisNexis than heretofore, although I have no idea where this might go or how soon something might develop from it. There will be some more dialog between representatives of the committee (including me) and LexisNexis staff about this issue in the near future. If you have particular concerns or want to articulate your wishes for OpenURL functionality for this database, I'd like to hear about them. Please send them to me offlist. Thanks, Steve -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Steve Oberg Family Man Librarian www.familymanlibrarian.com From mvagianoslib at gmail.com Wed Apr 20 14:00:39 2005 From: mvagianoslib at gmail.com (Maria Vagianos) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files In-Reply-To: <01dc01c545c8$89d72040$5c38e592@safeguard.uah.edu> References: <01dc01c545c8$89d72040$5c38e592@safeguard.uah.edu> Message-ID: Thanks everybody for your input! On 4/20/05, David P. Moore wrote: > Copernic is free and can handle network drives. > > David P. Moore > Electronic Resources/Business Librarian > M. Louis Salmon Library > University of Alabama in Huntsville > Huntsville, AL 35899 > 256-824-6285 > FAX: 256-824-6083 > david.moore@uah.edu > http://www.uah.edu/library > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] > On Behalf Of Mike Beccaria > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:35 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files > > Google desktop searches all local drives. It will not work on network > drives. Of course, Google does sell a product that does this. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robin Boulton [mailto:rboulton@linc.lib.il.us] > Sent: Wed 4/20/2005 12:27 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Cc: > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files > > There is a commercial alternative also: for years I have used > dtSearch, a > full-text indexing program (in fact I first came across it as DOS > shareware > in about 1988). It takes a long time to build an index but it's > blazingly > fast on searches. I mention it because it works well across multiple > network > drives which I don't know if Google or Microsoft desktop engines > will do (I > had the impression that they would only search a C: drive, not D: > thru Z: - > might be totally wrong about that). > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: web4lib@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] > > On Behalf Of Chris Hirt > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:58 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list > > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files > > > > Maria, > > > > Have you tried Google Desktop Search? http://desktop.google.com/ > > > > It might be what you're looking for. > > > > Chris Hirt > > Library Systems Programmer > > Calvin College - Grand Rapids, MI > > > > >>> Maria Vagianos 04/20/05 9:52 AM >>> > > Hi all, > > > > I need to figure out a way to catalog all data files on our > computer > > drives, and index them in such a way that all staff can later find > > computer files easily when they do research. Problem is, we have > so > > much data stored all over these drives, that it is very hard to > find > > anything when we really need it. Consequently, if files aren't > named, > > saved and indexed in an organized way, then the information is > > effectively lost to the researcher. > > > > Is there a program you can suggest tthat can help me do this? > > > > Thanks for your help! > > Maria > > > > From leo at leoklein.com Wed Apr 20 14:02:02 2005 From: leo at leoklein.com (Leo Robert Klein) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IM IDs on business cards In-Reply-To: <5C7554D82F4671478985015814A65B773ADA5B@UEEXCHANGE.evansville.edu> References: <5C7554D82F4671478985015814A65B773ADA5B@UEEXCHANGE.evansville.edu> Message-ID: <2262.131.193.220.113.1114020122.squirrel@webmail5.pair.com> On Wed, April 20, 2005 9:44 am, Atwater Singer, Margaret said: > Does anyone include their IM IDs on their business cards? My university > does not have a formal chat reference service (staffing) but I want > students to be able to ask me questions whenever and however suits them > best. Any thoughts? I think this is an excellent example of outreach. The twenty-somethings who populate my work place, have their chat application on all the time. I think if you approach it like email reference -- each person has a personal handle and the department has a joint one, it ought to work out fine. LEO -- ------------- Leo Robert Klein www.leoklein.com From ndgmtlcd at yahoo.com Wed Apr 20 14:27:09 2005 From: ndgmtlcd at yahoo.com (Alain D. M. G. Vaillancourt) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Cataloging computer files In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050420182709.78356.qmail@web50809.mail.yahoo.com> If we are talking not about a general Search function but about a backbone on which to hang metadata or from which to encourage organisation (by taxonomy - savvy librarians and the like) and if we are talking about Microsoft Office files, you could do a lot worse than exploiting the already existing (and grossly under exploited or not exploited at all, nearly everywhere that I have worked) "properties" function (it's in the "File " drop-down), which writes directly to Windows Explorer if you do (or re-do) the initial installations properly. Alain Vaillancourt --- Charlie Irwin wrote: > >Maria, > > > >Have you tried Google Desktop Search? http://desktop.google.com/ > > > >It might be what you're looking for. > > I use GDS on my computer and it's great for finding stuff on an 80 GB > > drive. However, it doesn't encourage me to be more organized, since > it's a > Google search. I would be hestitant to suggest it as the official > method of > finding things on the organization computers. > > Just a thought... > > Charlie Irwin > > > "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are for. > Sail out to sea and do new things." > Grace Hopper > > > > ********************************************************************* > Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, > this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there > to a plain text message. > ********************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________________ L?che-vitrine ou l?che-?cran ? magasinage.yahoo.ca From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Wed Apr 20 14:28:45 2005 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: IM IDs on business cards Message-ID: I include my own on my new business cards. We also have cards at the reference desk we give out with the library reference chat ID on it. Bill Drew drewwe@morrisville.edu From egh_cu at yahoo.es Wed Apr 20 15:00:07 2005 From: egh_cu at yahoo.es (Ernesto Giralt) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Cataloging computer files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200504201904.j3KJ454E010946@webjunction.org> Mar?a: DCS, the engine behind DescribeThis (www.describethis.com) can do that, and would be a "true" cataloguing task, because the engine extracts the metadata from the content of files (publisher, creator/autor, dates, rights, etc) and give you a collection, filtered and "searchable", of Dublin Core registers in XML, RDF or XHTML format. The bad news are that the local search option for the application exists only internally at Sand, under development and testing phase. Currently we are devoted to improve the engine for online content, but.. with enough users requesting such kind of solution, we can convince the boss to deploy the desktop version for the public domain;) Even free, if there are really "enough users".. Send me an email to ernesto.giralt@esand.net to discuss or comment more about this, to avoid off-topic messages for the list. ! Ernesto Giralt. > -----Mensaje original----- > De: web4lib@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] En nombre de Maria Vagianos > Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 20 de abril de 2005 15:45 > Para: Multiple recipients of list > Asunto: [WEB4LIB] Cataloging computer files > > Hi all, > > I need to figure out a way to catalog all data files on our > computer drives, and index them in such a way that all staff > can later find computer files easily when they do research. > Problem is, we have so much data stored all over these > drives, that it is very hard to find anything when we really > need it. Consequently, if files aren't named, saved and > indexed in an organized way, then the information is > effectively lost to the researcher. > > Is there a program you can suggest tthat can help me do this? > > Thanks for your help! > Maria > > > ___________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Nueva versi?n GRATIS Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y m?s... http://messenger.yahoo.es From abullen at ameritech.net Wed Apr 20 17:19:35 2005 From: abullen at ameritech.net (A. Bullen) Date: Wed May 18 14:31:41 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Cataloging computer files In-Reply-To: <200504201904.j3KJ454E010946@webjunction.org> References: <200504201904.j3KJ454E010946@webjunction.org> Message-ID: <4266C767.8060505@ameritech.net> Maria: I come again to my first (search engine) love, Swish-E. If you: A.) install the windows version of swish-e B.) store the data you want indexed on networked (or shared, somehow) drives C.) build swish-e with the appropriate filters (for Word, MP3s, Excel, PDFs, etc.) D.) store your data with appropriate metadata built into the native format you could use Swish-E to spider the network drives. Swish-E can be made to search specific fields; so, say, you rigorously enforce DC metadata, you can have it look for keyword X in the Content.Creator field. More complicated schemas are (I like lists, sorry): 1.) You could develop a Visual Basic utility that is a "Publish This!" utility which appears as a button on their Word, Excel, etc. programs. This button would bring up a fill-in-the-blank metadata creation form. The form then gets created as an XML record, which in turn points to the original document. Swish-E could then spider the XML record and records its data; it then follows the link to the actual piece being indexed. Jiggling with Swish-E search result returns could yield both the structured data and the keyword/fuzzy search. 2.) You might also develop a series of rule sets that develop your structure for you. You could use wget and download the files you want (*.doc, *.pdf, *.xls, *.htm*, etc. on shared drives), and then convert them into text using the various x to y filters available on the Internet. Once in text form, you could run a set of heuristic rules against them to develop subject categories. With the exception of a description field, you could probably fill in all of the vital DC fields using this method. Again, Swish-E could then spider these distilled records, link them to the original document, spider that for keyword searches, and you could have a structured catalog. Andrew Bullen Illinois State Library >>Hi all, >> >>I need to figure out a way to catalog all data files on our >>computer drives, and index them in such a way that all staff >>can later find computer files easily when they do research. >>Problem is, we have so much data stored all over these >>drives, that it is very hard to find anything when we really >>need it. Consequently, if files aren't named, saved and >>indexed in an organized way, then the information is >>effectively lost to the researcher. >> >>Is there a program you can suggest tthat can help me do this? >> >>Thanks for your help! >>Maria >> >> From clintonhlowery at yahoo.com Sun Apr 3 16:30:10 2005 From: clintonhlowery at yahoo.com (Clinton Lowery) Date: Wed May 18 14:52:54 2005 Subject: Java coding help please Message-ID: <20050403203010.34129.qmail@web60407.mail.yahoo.com> Hi. I'm having a coding problem when trying to resize a window for IE 6.0. What I'm trying to do is pull different style sheets for different screen sizes. Instead of relying on percentages, which gets me close but no cigar, I'm trying to pull, for example, an 800 width or a 1024 width depending on the window size. Since Firefox and IE have different measures, I have to test for the value self.innerWidth to see which is needed. I'm not sure if my browser is the problem - it may be - as I get "undefined" as a value for frameWidth for the browser I use at work. The function works for Firefox. It does not work for IE at 1024 resolution however, and I've only found the three measurements to check by. Can anyone help? Thanks. 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My appologies for any duplication. ------------------------------- Digital Libraries ? la Carte: Choices for the Future Modular, International Digital Library Course Tilburg University, The Netherlands, 21-26 August 2005 The International Ticer School (known for its former International Summer School on the Digital Library) offers a brand new, modular course for librarians and publishers: "Digital Libraries ? la Carte: Choices for the Future". The course will be held at Tilburg University, the Netherlands, 21-26 August 2005. >From its ?menu? of five one-day modules, you can pick your choice: ? trends and strategic issues (including those at Google) ? technological developments, relevant to libraries (including wikis, blogs, access management/Shibboleth, and mobile technology) ? consortia and licensing ? Open Access and institutional repositories ? the role of libraries in teaching and learning Top speakers will present their views. Below is a selection. ? 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Alyson Kosina VALA Secretariat Victorian Association for Library Automation Inc. Reg No A11933 ABN 75 344 574 577 P.O. Box 282 Croydon VIC Australia 3136 Phone: +61 3 9725 2725 Fax: +61 3 9723 6097 Email: vala@vala.org.au Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com From kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us Fri Apr 15 10:13:16 2005 From: kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us (Karen Davis) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: styleguides redux and printing question Message-ID: <200504150913.AA95486282@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Thanks to all who responsed to my question about how to most efficiently produce a styleguide. I found them all *very* helpful and printed for my future reference! My approach will no doubt borrow from all the docs posted. +++++++++++++++++ another question: The design I was provided for our new site doesn't produce printable web pages because it was done in tables :-( I'm wondering how best to proceed to produce printable pages: * redo the design in css? (time-consuming) * create a separate set of printable pages? (also time-comsuming) Is there any other option I don't yet know about? Many TIA for your advice. -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From jrounds at uchicago.edu Fri Apr 15 10:40:35 2005 From: jrounds at uchicago.edu (Justin Rounds) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] styleguides redux and printing question In-Reply-To: <200504150913.AA95486282@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504150913.AA95486282@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: <425FD263.4020909@uchicago.edu> Well I think the *best* thing to do would be to convert the table-layout design to css, but as a stopgap you could try creating an "@media print" stylesheet that reformats the content to fit on a printed page. _ j Karen Davis wrote: > Thanks to all who responsed to my question about how to most > efficiently produce a styleguide. I found them all *very* helpful and > printed for my future reference! My approach will no doubt borrow > from all the docs posted. > > +++++++++++++++++ another question: The design I was provided for our > new site doesn't produce printable web pages because it was done in > tables :-( > > I'm wondering how best to proceed to produce printable pages: > > * redo the design in css? (time-consuming) > > * create a separate set of printable pages? (also time-comsuming) > > Is there any other option I don't yet know about? > > Many TIA for your advice. > > -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator > Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public > Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 > > -- > > -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Rounds Graphic Design and Digital Media Specialist Digital Library Development Center University of Chicago 1100 East 57th Street Chicago, Illinois 60637 (773)702-4391 ------------------------------------------- From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Fri Apr 15 10:45:29 2005 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] styleguides redux and printing question In-Reply-To: <200504150913.AA95486282@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504150913.AA95486282@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: <425FD389.4040907@ohiolink.edu> Karen Davis wrote: >another question: >The design I was provided for our new site doesn't produce printable web pages because it was done in tables :-( > >I'm wondering how best to proceed to produce printable pages: > >* redo the design in css? (time-consuming) > >* create a separate set of printable pages? (also time-comsuming) > >Is there any other option I don't yet know about? > > > Definitely not #2 IMO. Creating separate sets of pages inevitably leads to discrepancies as one set gets eited and the other doesn't. Doing a good, resolution-independent design may or may not be a big job, depending on how convoluted your current markup is. However, it won't be any less time-consuming in August, or December, or the middle of next year - so when are you going to do it? -- Thomas Dowling tdowling@ohiolink.edu From kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us Fri Apr 15 11:06:33 2005 From: kdavis at lawrence.lib.ks.us (Karen Davis) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: styleguides redux and printing question Message-ID: <200504151006.AA187498812@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> So maybe a reasonable way to proceed would be to- 1. create an @media print stylesheet for now, and 2. get to work on a table-free design, resolution independent version of the design (which is what I need to do anyway). Thanks, guys! -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Karen Davis, Coordinator Center for Community Networking & Web Administrator Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044 785.843.3833 ext. 104 -- From T.Hammond at nature.com Fri Apr 15 12:30:39 2005 From: T.Hammond at nature.com (Hammond, Tony) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: [ANN] Social Bookmarking Tools (I & II) - in D-Lib Magazine Message-ID: <125F7834E11A5741A7D79412EE3504F90F26D23E@UK1APPS2.mpl.root-domain.org> Hi All: A pair of papers just published today in D-Lib Magazine [1] by Nature Publishing Group (NPG) [2] may be of interest: * Social Bookmarking Tools (I): A General Review [3] * Social Bookmarking Tools (II): A Case Study - Connotea [4] * Editorial - Personalized Information Organization [5] These papers describe the current state of play with respect to the new crop of web-based bookmark managers - tools such as del.icio.us and Flickr are well-known exemplars of the genre. These papers describe how such tools can be specialized as web-based reference managers. Connotea [6] is NPG's own contribution of a reference manager tool for scientists whereby bookmarks can be stored online and tagged with user-supplied labels for easy later retrieval. Citation metadata is also supplied automatically by Connotea for a growing number of online journals and books services. Bookmarked references can be shared with other users and can be publicly commented upon. In fact, whole discussion threads can be built up around individual bookmarked references. (The papers are set up as living examples with their own reference lists available online both for comment and further additions.) Import/export opportunities within Connotea include RSS and RIS - support for other formats is under development. Connotea is a free online reference management and social bookmarking service for scientists created by NPG. While somewhat experimental, Connotea already has a large and growing user base and is a fully functioning service. The label 'experimental' is not meant to imply that the service is any way ephemeral or esoteric, rather that the concept of social bookmarking itself and the application of that concept to reference management are both very recent developments. Connotea is under active development, and we are still in the process of discovering how it can be used to full effect. As well as being a free and public service, the core code to Connotea is freely available under an open source license [7]. Moreover there are two public mailing lists: connotea-discuss [8] which is a public forum for discussion on matters relating to the Connotea service, and connotea-code-devel [9] which is aimed at developers working with the Connotea source code. ### D-Lib Magazine [1] is a solely electronic publication with a primary focus on digital library research and development, including but not limited to new technologies, applications, and contextual social and economic issues. D-Lib Magazine is produced by the Corporation for National Research Initiatives (CNRI), has been sponsored by the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency (DARPA), and is currently being funded by the National Science Foundation (NSF). 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Macmillan Publishers Limited Registered in England and Wales with registered number 785998 Registered Office Brunel Road, Houndmills, Basingstoke RG21 6XS ******************************************************************************** From jfitzgibbon at Galwaylibrary.ie Fri Apr 15 13:24:08 2005 From: jfitzgibbon at Galwaylibrary.ie (John Fitzgibbon) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: hiding and displaying an option element using JavaScript Message-ID: Hi, Hi, I need to hide a number of option elements in one drop down list based on the user selecting an option in another drop down list. The Javascript code I'm using is document.getElementById('starts4').style.display='none'; where 'starts4' is the id of the option element I'm trying to hide. I tried using a span element within the option element and giving it an id of 'starts4' but to no avail. If the element is not an option element, everything works fine. The element appears and reappears as required. Using document.frmNameSearch.elements[4].options[1]=null is too messy, in this case, because it changes the index numbers of the option elements within the options array. Several options have to vanish and reappear depending on what is clicked and the changing of the index numbers makes it difficult to keep track of everything. If the first approach could be made to work it would save a great deal of typing. Any ideas would be very welcome. John Fitzgibbon Galway Public Library Island House Cathedral Square Galway Ireland p: 00 353 91 562471 f: 00 353 91 565039 w: http://www.galwaylibrary.ie ******************************************************************* Tá eolas atá príobháideach agus rúnda sa ríomhphost seo agus aon iatán a ghabhann leis agus is leis an duine/na daoine sin amháin a bhfuil siad seolta chucu a bhaineann siad. Mura seolaí thú, níl tú údaraithe an ríomhphost nó aon iatán a ghabhann leis a léamh, a chóipáil ná a úsáid. Má tá an ríomhphost seo faighte agat trí dhearmad, cuir an seoltóir ar an eolas thrí aischur ríomhphoist agus scrios ansin é le do thoil. This e-mail and any attachment contains information which is private and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e-mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. ********************************************************************* From ndobbing at uoguelph.ca Fri Apr 15 13:41:49 2005 From: ndobbing at uoguelph.ca (Nick Dobbing) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] hiding and displaying an option element using JavaScript References: <200504151721.j3FHLu4E004808@webjunction.org> Message-ID: <005401c541e2$6704cf70$0a02a8c0@system01> John, this might be a somewhat oblique response, but there are free scripts out there that do this kind of thing... have you considered using one? Here, for example: http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex16/chainedselects/index.htm Regards, Nick Dobbing University of Guelph ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Fitzgibbon" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 1:21 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] hiding and displaying an option element using JavaScript > Hi, > > Hi, > > I need to hide a number of option elements in one drop down list based > on the user selecting an option in another drop down list. > > The Javascript code I'm using is > > document.getElementById('starts4').style.display='none'; > > where 'starts4' is the id of the option element I'm trying to hide. I > tried using a span element within the option element and giving it an id > of 'starts4' but to no avail. > > If the element is not an option element, everything works fine. The > element appears and reappears as required. > > Using > > document.frmNameSearch.elements[4].options[1]=null > > is too messy, in this case, because it changes the index numbers of the > option elements within the options array. Several options have to vanish > and reappear depending on what is clicked and the changing of the index > numbers makes it difficult to keep track of everything. > > If the first approach could be made to work it would save a great deal > of typing. > > Any ideas would be very welcome. > > John Fitzgibbon > > Galway Public Library > Island House > Cathedral Square > Galway > Ireland > > p: 00 353 91 562471 > f: 00 353 91 565039 > w: http://www.galwaylibrary.ie > > ******************************************************************* > T? eolas at? pr?obh?ideach agus r?nda sa r?omhphost seo > agus aon iat?n a ghabhann leis agus is leis an duine/na daoine > sin amh?in a bhfuil siad seolta chucu a bhaineann siad. > Mura seola? th?, n?l t? ?daraithe an r?omhphost n? aon iat?n > a ghabhann leis a l?amh, a ch?ip?il n? a ?s?id. > M? t? an r?omhphost seo faighte agat tr? dhearmad, > cuir an seolt?ir ar an eolas thr? aischur r?omhphoist > agus scrios ansin ? le do thoil. > > This e-mail and any attachment contains information which is > private and confidential and is intended for the addressee > only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised > to read, copy or use the e-mail or any attachment. > If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify > the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. > ********************************************************************* > > From LizPerlman.7901733 at bloglines.com Fri Apr 15 13:45:21 2005 From: LizPerlman.7901733 at bloglines.com (LizPerlman.7901733@bloglines.com) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: MS Access data page Message-ID: <1113587121.1328386078.19843.sendItem@bloglines.com> I'm probably going about this all wrong, but this is the only option I have right now. We have an MS Access database which we'd like to be able to query (but not update) via the Web. I've been able to build a data access page in Access, but it insists on keeping the path what I originally gave it (a mapped drive), and will not accept a URL. However, most people in the college do not have this drive mapped, nor do they have access to the server. However, the file resides on a publicly accessible Web server. I feel like I'm so close to making it work, but am not quite there. I do not know ASP so that's not an option right now. Does anyone have a suggestion? Liz Perlman, MSLIS Systems Librarian Specker Memorial Library Calumet College of St. Joseph 2400 New York Avenue Whiting, IN 46394 219-473-4374 (office) 219-473-4259 (fax) eperlman@ccsj.edu From ndgmtlcd at yahoo.com Fri Apr 15 13:49:36 2005 From: ndgmtlcd at yahoo.com (Alain D. M. G. Vaillancourt) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: opacs for children In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050415174936.43657.qmail@web50804.mail.yahoo.com> Hello! Several years ago I had the privilege of getting a personal demo of PACE, the prototype OPAC Jamshed Beheshti developed with Andrew Large, Mary Bialek and Valerie Large. It was written in Visual Basic, I think, and the graphics were relatively primitive compared to what we see now on a few of the more advanced Web OPACs just coming out, but the approach was novel and I have never seen anything yet which comes close to it. It offered a "natural" and gradual extension to existing OPAC formats, in the form of book spines of correct height and a good approximation of the thickness of each book, generated by taking informatio from each MARC record. They tested the system in the library of a secondary school, with good results. See: Beheshti, J., V. Large, and M. Bialek. "Public access catalogue extension (PACE): a browsable graphical interface." Information Technology and Libraries. Vol. 15 No. 4 (1996): pp. 231-240. Alain Vaillancourt --- "Yu, Holly" wrote: > You can find Jamshid's presentation at the ALA/CLA joint conference = > 2003 at > http://www.calstatela.edu/library/ALA/ala-claOPAC.htm > > You can also find other presentations from the same conference > session = > on > OPAC interface design on this page.=20 > > Holly Yu > Library Web Administrator / Reference Librarian > University Library > California State University, Los Angeles > 5151 State University Dr.=20 > Los Angeles, CA 90032 > Tel: (323) 343-4993 > Fax: (323) 343-5600 > Email: hyu3@calstatela.edu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Shochet [mailto:mshochet@ubalt.edu]=20 > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:22 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: opacs for children > > > A few years ago at an American Libraries Association/Canadian > Libraries > Association joint conference I saw a prof. Jamshid Beheshti of McGill > University talk about work he was doing on designing interfaces for > children. His worked focused on the design of "portal" for children, > = > but I > would think his research would be applicable to OPAC design as well. > > He has a vitae, which includes citations of articles he has authored > on > designing web interfaces for children, available online: > http://www.gslis.mcgill.ca/Beheshti_CV.htm > > Michael Shochet > Systems/Reference Librarian > Langsdale Library, University of Baltimore > http://langsdale.ubalt.edu/ > mshochet@ubalt.edu > 410-837-4277 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Janine Bendel > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 6:28 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] opacs for children > > > Dear Ms. and Mr.,=20 > > I=B4m studying library science in berlin (germany) and at the moment > = > I=B4m > writing my master thesis with the topic "opac=B4s for children". My > aim = > is an > international comparison and as a basement I chose the "Best- > Practice-Recherche" (Bertelsmann) with the following countries: USA, > England, Denmark, Finland and Singapore. Till now I found predominant > = > eldery > literature about these topic (f.e. "B=FCcherschatz" in Hamburg; = > formerly > studies: P. Solomon, V. Walter), not so much in the bibliographies = > (LISA, > LiLi) but also some interesting new projects in the internet (f.e. in > Maryland and Denmark). I=B4ve also talked with many librarians and > next = > I=B4ll > contact some software companies. Can anybody give me some more > advices = > or do > you know persons to talk to for me? > > Thank you! > > > Yours sincerely > > Janine Bendel > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! > Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=3D021193 > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************* > Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, > this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there > to a plain text message. > ********************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________________ L?che-vitrine ou l?che-?cran ? magasinage.yahoo.ca From cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca Fri Apr 15 15:55:02 2005 From: cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Gray) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] hiding and displaying an option element using JavaScript In-Reply-To: <200504151722.j3FHM94E004860@webjunction.org> References: <200504151722.j3FHM94E004860@webjunction.org> Message-ID: I have a very simple example up at . If you look at the source code you'll see that it is not done by hiding elements, but by manipulating the Select object in the DOM. Chris "The brain is a wonderful organ. It starts working the moment you get up in the morning and does not stop until you get into the office." -Robert Frost On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, John Fitzgibbon wrote: > Hi, > > Hi, > > I need to hide a number of option elements in one drop down list based > on the user selecting an option in another drop down list. > > The Javascript code I'm using is > > document.getElementById('starts4').style.display='none'; > > where 'starts4' is the id of the option element I'm trying to hide. I > tried using a span element within the option element and giving it an id > of 'starts4' but to no avail. > > If the element is not an option element, everything works fine. The > element appears and reappears as required. > > Using > > document.frmNameSearch.elements[4].options[1]=null > > is too messy, in this case, because it changes the index numbers of the > option elements within the options array. Several options have to vanish > and reappear depending on what is clicked and the changing of the index > numbers makes it difficult to keep track of everything. > > If the first approach could be made to work it would save a great deal > of typing. > > Any ideas would be very welcome. > > John Fitzgibbon > > Galway Public Library > Island House > Cathedral Square > Galway > Ireland > > p: 00 353 91 562471 > f: 00 353 91 565039 > w: http://www.galwaylibrary.ie > > ******************************************************************* > T? eolas at? pr?obh?ideach agus r?nda sa r?omhphost seo > agus aon iat?n a ghabhann leis agus is leis an duine/na daoine > sin amh?in a bhfuil siad seolta chucu a bhaineann siad. > Mura seola? th?, n?l t? ?daraithe an r?omhphost n? aon iat?n > a ghabhann leis a l?amh, a ch?ip?il n? a ?s?id. > M? t? an r?omhphost seo faighte agat tr? dhearmad, > cuir an seolt?ir ar an eolas thr? aischur r?omhphoist > agus scrios ansin ? le do thoil. > > This e-mail and any attachment contains information which is > private and confidential and is intended for the addressee > only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised > to read, copy or use the e-mail or any attachment. > If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify > the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. > ********************************************************************* > > From jrounds at uchicago.edu Fri Apr 15 17:36:04 2005 From: jrounds at uchicago.edu (Justin Rounds) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] hiding and displaying an option element using JavaScript In-Reply-To: <200504151725.j3FHPl4E005959@webjunction.org> References: <200504151725.j3FHPl4E005959@webjunction.org> Message-ID: <426033C4.30303@uchicago.edu> What you're trying to do should work -- what browser and os is this *not* working on? _ j John Fitzgibbon wrote: > Hi, > > Hi, > > I need to hide a number of option elements in one drop down list based > on the user selecting an option in another drop down list. > > The Javascript code I'm using is > > document.getElementById('starts4').style.display='none'; > > where 'starts4' is the id of the option element I'm trying to hide. I > tried using a span element within the option element and giving it an id > of 'starts4' but to no avail. > > If the element is not an option element, everything works fine. The > element appears and reappears as required. > > Using > > document.frmNameSearch.elements[4].options[1]=null > > is too messy, in this case, because it changes the index numbers of the > option elements within the options array. Several options have to vanish > and reappear depending on what is clicked and the changing of the index > numbers makes it difficult to keep track of everything. > > If the first approach could be made to work it would save a great deal > of typing. > > Any ideas would be very welcome. > > John Fitzgibbon > > Galway Public Library > Island House > Cathedral Square > Galway > Ireland > > p: 00 353 91 562471 > f: 00 353 91 565039 > w: http://www.galwaylibrary.ie > > ******************************************************************* > T? eolas at? pr?obh?ideach agus r?nda sa r?omhphost seo > agus aon iat?n a ghabhann leis agus is leis an duine/na daoine > sin amh?in a bhfuil siad seolta chucu a bhaineann siad. > Mura seola? th?, n?l t? ?daraithe an r?omhphost n? aon iat?n > a ghabhann leis a l?amh, a ch?ip?il n? a ?s?id. > M? t? an r?omhphost seo faighte agat tr? dhearmad, > cuir an seolt?ir ar an eolas thr? aischur r?omhphoist > agus scrios ansin ? le do thoil. > > This e-mail and any attachment contains information which is > private and confidential and is intended for the addressee > only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised > to read, copy or use the e-mail or any attachment. > If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify > the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. > ********************************************************************* > > > -- ------------------------------------------- Justin Rounds Graphic Design and Digital Media Specialist Digital Library Development Center University of Chicago 1100 East 57th Street Chicago, Illinois 60637 (773)702-4391 ------------------------------------------- From vrdconf at iis.syr.edu Fri Apr 15 20:21:45 2005 From: vrdconf at iis.syr.edu (VRD Conference) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: VRD 2005 Reference Conference: Call for Proposals Message-ID: * Please excuse any cross-postings * CALL FOR PROPOSALS: Papers and Presentations The VRD 7th Annual Reference Conference Recognizing the Success of Reference November 14-15, 2005 San Francisco, CA Proposals are invited for concurrent breakout session presentations at the VRD 7th Annual Reference Conference on Monday and Tuesday, November 14-15, 2005. The VRD conference explores all aspects of reference service in a broad range of contexts, including libraries and information centers, government, business, education, and other industry sectors or organizations. The theme of this year's conference, "Recognizing the Success of Reference," examines the challenges, accomplishments, and perhaps pitfalls of integrating digital reference into the traditional reference environment. With technologies such as SMS, Podcasting, voice over IP (VoIP), and more becoming increasingly mainstream, the potential to provide instant, on-the-go reference is limitless. Authors are encouraged to examine issues, identify practices, and propose organizational and technological systems, standards, and procedures that advance the state of reference librarianship as practiced in a variety of environments and mediums. Presenters will receive free registration for the conference. Please note that there is a two-person limit per presentation; in the case of two presenters for one session, one presenter will receive free registration. Deadlines: * Proposals will be accepted until June 6, 2005 (see proposal submission instructions below). * Selected presenters will be notified by July 15, 2005. * Final papers are due Friday, December 9, 2005 in order to be considered for inclusion in the VRD 2005 Conference print proceedings, to be published in 2006. * PowerPoint presentation slides, handouts, and other materials to be published in the VRD electronic proceedings will be due Friday, December 9, 2005. CONFERENCE THEMES: Proposal themes may include, but are not limited to, the following topics and categories: Administrative Issues * Training solutions and models for service staff * Planning for technological evolution * Performance measures, evaluation approaches, and quality standards * Cooperative efforts with other organizations, such as museums and archives * Marketing services to potential users * Best practices * Planning for equipment and space * Reference outsourcing * Staff motivation and buy-in * Distance education issues * Copyright and. licensing issues for resources, such as pricing, legal ramifications, etc. General Reference Issues * Special services for special needs users * Patron privacy * Emerging trends * Legal issues and liability * Archiving/tracking questions and answers/FAQs * Commercial and fee-based services * Case studies (experiences from different ways of providing reference service in all contexts) Digital Reference * Evaluation of digital reference software * Reference via cell phone text messages (SMS) * Standards for digital reference technology, including NISO standards * Policies and standards for consortia and cooperative reference * Training and education for staff * Models for funding/pricing * Policies and the law - liability, privacy, ethics, copyright, licensing * Question negotiation in the digital environment * Providing reference services for kids and teachers * Technology and tools, such as: o Workflow software (for question/answering) o Wireless technology o Question-answer archiving tools/knowledge bases o Web contact center software o Customer relationship management software o Networking/routing solutions o Voice over IP (VoIP) Reference Resources * Search engines * Reference meta-sites * Collection development * Online and print resources * Intermediary search services vs. end-user systems * Locally-mounted digital resources vs. remote resources * Evaluation of reference resources PROPOSAL SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS: Proposals should include speaker's name, job title, institution, address, phone, fax, e-mail, brief biographical information, and a topic related abstract of 250-500 words. Proposals must be received by June 6, 2005. Proposals can be submitted via the VRD 2005 Conference Web site within the next two weeks. Print and Electronic Proceedings Presenters are encouraged to submit papers or related materials (e.g., handouts, copies of slides, etc.) for publication in the conference's print and electronic proceedings. The print proceedings will be comprised of peer-reviewed papers from the 2005 conference, and the content will differ from material published in the online proceedings. For more information, contact vrdconf@vrd.org. For more information regarding the VRD 2005 Reference Conference, please contact Blythe Bennett, vrdconf@vrd.org, (315) 443-5445. For hotel and other information, please see the VRD 2005 Conference Web site at http://www.vrd2005.org/. Please note that the VRD 2005 Conference Web site is still in development, and will be available online by April 29, 2005. DEADLINES: Proposals Due: June 6, 2005 Notification of Acceptance: July 15, 2005 Final Papers Due for Print Proceedings Consideration: December 9, 2005 Presentations and Other Materials Due for Electronic Proceedings: December 9, 2005 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Virtual Reference Desk Information Institute of Syracuse 621 Skytop Road, Suite 160 Syracuse, NY 13244-5290 phone: 315 443 3640 fax: 315 443 5448 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From svky.8422199 at bloglines.com Fri Apr 15 20:33:54 2005 From: svky.8422199 at bloglines.com (svky.8422199@bloglines.com) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: Job posting: Digital Projects Librarian Message-ID: <1113611634.1130930225.15769.sendItem@bloglines.com> Digital Projects Librarian University of Nevada, Las Vegas Application Due: Open Until Filled Type: Full Time RESPONSIBILITIES Reporting to the Head, Web and Digitization Services, the Digital Projects Librarian will provide leadership for the development, design, deployment, and support of digitization and digital projects resources and services; collaborate with major external clients and partners to develop shared resources in support of the UNLV Libraries’ mission and strategic direction; perform outreach and communicate information about the Libraries’ digitization and digital projects with the UNLV community; assist in the identification and writing of grant proposals geared towards the creation of digitization and digital projects that focus on the unique resources of the UNLV Libraries; and be the UNLV Libraries’ and the department’s expert on the use and maintenance of the CONTENTdm image content management software product. This person will also assist in developing and writing internal workflows, policies, and procedures; monitor professional trends in assigned areas and make recommendations in these areas; communicate positively and effectively with unit management and unit colleagues, with colleagues in other units, and with UNLV community contacts; apply critical thinking skills for successful problem solving; maintain a focused, customer service orientation; and demonstrate the ability to work independently as well as promote a positive team environment. QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED: Master’s degree from an ALA-accredited program, 4 years minimum experience working with digitization/digital projects; proven record of success working in a team environment; demonstrated working knowledge of the CONTENTdm product; experience with web page creation; working knowledge of XML, HTML, and other web-related markup languages; experience with metadata management, specifically Dublin Core; working knowledge of a variety of image file formats and various popular software products (Adobe Photoshop, PDF, jpg, giff, etc.); experience with OCR applications. PREFERRED: Working knowledge of one or more scripting languages (PHP, CGI, etc); demonstrated ability to manage technical projects; relational database design and implementation; grant writing experience; experience working in the academic library environment. SALARY RANGE This is a tenure-track, twelve-month academic faculty position at a Rank III Level (equivalent to an Associate Professor). Position is contingent upon funding. Funding for this position begins July 1, 2005. Salary is competitive and contingent on labor market, not less than $51,390. For more information, see the UNLV Human Resources web page at: http://hr.unlv.edu. APPLICATION DETAILS Application materials must include a current resume, detailed cover letter, and names, addresses, and telephone numbers of three professional references who may be contacted. Applicants should fully describe qualifications and experience, since the initial review will serve to evaluate applicants based on documented, relevant qualifications and professional work experience. Review of materials will begin immediately. Materials should be addressed to Kyle Felker, Digital Projects Librarian Search Committee Chair, and are to be submitted via on-line application at https://hrsearch.unlv.edu. For assistance with UNLV’s on-line applicant portal, contact Bob Sitts at (702) 895-1655 or email hrsearch@ccmail.nevada.edu. UNLV is an Affirmative Action / Equal Opportunity educator and employer committed to excellence through diversity. From abullen at ameritech.net Sat Apr 16 02:05:06 2005 From: abullen at ameritech.net (A. Bullen) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] MS Access data page In-Reply-To: <1113587121.1328386078.19843.sendItem@bloglines.com> References: <1113587121.1328386078.19843.sendItem@bloglines.com> Message-ID: <4260AB12.2010205@ameritech.net> Liz, I'm probably going about this all wrong, but this is the only option I have right now. We have an MS Access database which we'd like to be able to query (but not update) via the Web. I've been able to build a data access page in Access, but it insists on keeping the path what I originally gave it (a mapped drive), and will not accept a URL. However, most people in the college do not have this drive mapped, nor do they have access to the server. However, the file resides on a publicly accessible Web server. I feel like I'm so close to making it work, but am not quite there. I do not know ASP so that's not an option right now. Does anyone have a suggestion? I am sorry to tell you, but the only non-ASP way *I* know how to do this is through either an ODBC connection (or JDBC, if you're a Java-ite) or something like Perl's DBI system. So, in Perl (ActiveState, on a Win2k server, using ODBC): 1.) You initalize/open the connection-- use Win32::ODBC; my($DSN) = "digitize"; my($db1) = new Win32::ODBC($DSN) || die qq(Cannot open ODBC connection to "$DSN"), Win32::ODBC::Error, "\n"; 2.) You query the database through a SQL query, passed through ODBC-- $query = "SELECT * FROM Digitize WHERE LastName=\'$lastnamequery\' ORDER BY LastName"; $db1->Sql($query); 3.) Read the results into variables-- while ($db1->FetchRow()) { my(%data1) = $db1->DataHash; $itemnumber = $data1{'ItemNumber'}; $typeoffile = $data1{'TypeOfFile'}; $thumbfilename = $data1{'FileName'}; $creator1 = $data1{'Creator1'}; $creator2 = $data1{'Creator2'}; $creator3 = $data1{'Creator3'}; etc. etc. 4.) Display the newly-filled-in variables into a templated HTML form: print "Content-type: text/html\n\n"; print < IDA Records beginning with the letter $letter

All IDA Records Beginning with the Letter $letter

Title:  $itemtitle
...

$imagesourceurl

$locationstr

Detailed Record
Record No. $itemnumber
etc. etc. Poof! Insta-page. Please feel free to contact me off-list if you want to try a Perl solution and want more shiny happy code. Andy Bullen Digital Plumber, Illinois State Library From ross.singer at library.gatech.edu Sun Apr 17 12:41:57 2005 From: ross.singer at library.gatech.edu (Ross Singer) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:05 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: OpenURL Standard Z39.88 - Approved In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3467.66.156.33.226.1113756117.squirrel@mail.library.gatech.edu> On Sat, April 16, 2005 6:16 pm, Eric Hellman said: > 3. it provides machinery that enables communities to define > extensions for new types of subject matter.entrepreneurial > This last is most needing of a "show me" examples. > example areas where open linking could prove useful > - links to musical works and performances > - links to stock information > - links to legal cases > - links to biological organisms > - links to scriptural passages > - links to major league baseball players > but I'm not holding my breath. Well, what this does is open the door for some entreprenuerial type to actually create these sorts of services. Links to musical works and performances (and movies, I suppose...) might be nice for the filesharers. While I have no idea if somebody that would create these sorts of services would realize the potential that Z39.88 might offer them, it's sort of nice to know that it is there /in case/ they realize that. I guess what I'm saying is that I'm glad we haven't created another standard that is mainly exclusive to libraries. Thanks to the committee for that. -Ross. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This email was composed using the GTEL Webmail client. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or priviledged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Georgia Tech Library and Information Center http://www.library.gatech.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ross.singer at library.gatech.edu Sun Apr 17 12:45:22 2005 From: ross.singer at library.gatech.edu (Ross Singer) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:05 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: MS Access data page In-Reply-To: <000301c542da$7d230d00$0502a8c0@BAYCT> References: <000301c542da$7d230d00$0502a8c0@BAYCT> Message-ID: <3479.66.156.33.226.1113756322.squirrel@mail.library.gatech.edu> Although it might be outside the scope of this particular project, but this seems like exact sort of project "Ruby on Rails" was designed for: http://www.rubyonrails.org/ But, like I said, that might be off-base here. -Ross. On Sat, April 16, 2005 7:21 pm, J Crockett said: > Liz, > > If the publicly accessible Web server, where the file resides, has > FrontPage > extensions and you have Microsoft FrontPage installed on your > computer, > there are wizards in FrontPage that will create the database > results ASP > Pages for you. > > Your database file must be in a "fpdb" directory on the Web > server. Open a > new page in your FrontPage, click "Insert" - "Database" - > "Results", and the > wizard will open to create a connection to the database. That > will walk you > through creating the query you want, or you can paste the SQL code > for the > query from MSAcccess as a custom query in the wizard. More > customization is > possible than is apparent. Play around with it and you'll find > other > solutions. In the process, you could learn some ASP from > examining the page > source. > > Joleen > > -----Original Message----- > From: web4lib@webjunction.org > [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] > On Behalf Of LizPerlman.7901733@bloglines.com > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:47 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] MS Access data page > > > I'm probably going about this all wrong, but this is the only > option I have > right now. We have an MS Access database which we'd like to be > able to > query (but not update) via the Web. I've been able to build a > data access > page in Access, but it insists on keeping the path what I > originally gave it > (a mapped drive), and will not accept a URL. However, most people > in the > college do not have this drive mapped, nor do they have access to > the > server. However, the file resides on a publicly accessible Web > server. I > feel like I'm so close to making it work, but am not quite there. > I do not > know ASP so that's not an option right now. Does anyone have a > suggestion? > > Liz Perlman, MSLIS > > Systems Librarian > Specker Memorial Library > Calumet College of St. Joseph > > 2400 New York Avenue > Whiting, IN 46394 > 219-473-4374 (office) > 219-473-4259 > (fax) > eperlman@ccsj.edu > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This email was composed using the GTEL Webmail client. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or priviledged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Georgia Tech Library and Information Center http://www.library.gatech.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From bpulliam at postoffice.providence.edu Sun Apr 17 15:48:52 2005 From: bpulliam at postoffice.providence.edu (Beatrice Pulliam) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:05 2005 Subject: FINAL REMINDER: Register Now For NEASIST Syndicate, Aggregate, Communicate: New Web Tools in Real Applications (May 3rd) In-Reply-To: <4240BCAF.8070209@providence.edu> References: <4240BCAF.8070209@providence.edu> Message-ID: <4262BDA4.8080800@providence.edu> APOLOGIES FOR DUPLICATIONS... STILL TIME TO REGISTER FOR New England Chapter of ASIST (NEASIST)program http://www.asis.org/Chapters/neasis/pc/programs/20050503-schedule.html Syndicate, Aggregate, Communicate: New Web Tools in Real Applications for Libraries, Companies and Regular Folk Tuesday, 3 May 2005, 9:45am-4pm Feinstein 400, Providence College, Providence, RI The Tools We Hear About: Blogs, Wikis, RSS, Instant Messenging (IM), Chat, Browser add-ons, Bookmarklets, Folksonomies The Questions We Ask Ourselves: How and when do these tools work together? How can I use them in my environment? How do I convince my boss that they are worth implementing? Presentations: - Megan Fox: "Tools in Personal Environments: A Taste of New Technologies" - Jenny Levine: "Tools in Collaborative Environments: Being a Part of the New Online World" - Michael Stephens: "Optimizing your Technology: Sharing your TechnoLust and Knowing When to Quit" The day will conclude with a panel discussion with all speakers! The program itself will be using some of the social software tools including the new NEASIST blog (check our website soon for news on this), a NEASIST Flickr account (http://www.flickr.com/photos/neasist/ )to capture the day's events, and podcasts of the presentations and panel discussion. $60 ASIST Members - $80 Non-Members - $40 Student/Retiree/Between Jobs (Continental Breakfast and Lunch and refreshments included) Register via Program Web site: http://www.asis.org/Chapters/neasis/pc/programs/20050503.html Questions about Registration?: E-mail Caryn Anderson (CarynLAnderson@yahoo.com) Questions about the Program?: E-mail Beatrice Pulliam (bpulliam@providence.edu) -- Beatrice R. Pulliam ASIST, New England Chapter Program Chair & Chair Elect From smcramer at uncg.edu Mon Apr 18 09:24:05 2005 From: smcramer at uncg.edu (Steve Cramer SMCRAMER) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:08 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: OpenURL Standard Z39.88 - Approved Message-ID: On Sat, April 16, 2005 6:16 pm, Eric Hellman said: <<"Links to musical works and performances (and movies, I suppose...) might be nice for the filesharers.">> But also to students and faculty in music, drama, broadcasting and cinema, etc... --sc _________________________________________________ Steve Cramer Librarian for Accounting, Business, Economics, & Textiles University of North Carolina at Greensboro smcramer@uncg.edu, 336-256-0346, AIM: crams828 Ask us! Phone, chat, email, or in person: http://library.uncg.edu/depts/ref/askalib/ -----web4lib@webjunction.org wrote: ----- To: Multiple recipients of list From: "Ross Singer" Sent by: web4lib@webjunction.org Date: 04/17/2005 12:50PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: OpenURL Standard Z39.88 - Approved On Sat, April 16, 2005 6:16 pm, Eric Hellman said: > 3. it provides machinery that enables communities to define > extensions for new types of subject matter.entrepreneurial > This last is most needing of a "show me" examples. > example areas where open linking could prove useful > - links to musical works and performances > - links to stock information > - links to legal cases > - links to biological organisms > - links to scriptural passages > - links to major league baseball players > but I'm not holding my breath. Well, what this does is open the door for some entreprenuerial type to actually create these sorts of services. Links to musical works and performances (and movies, I suppose...) might be nice for the filesharers. While I have no idea if somebody that would create these sorts of services would realize the potential that Z39.88 might offer them, it's sort of nice to know that it is there /in case/ they realize that. I guess what I'm saying is that I'm glad we haven't created another standard that is mainly exclusive to libraries. Thanks to the committee for that. -Ross. From lbell927 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 18 10:10:49 2005 From: lbell927 at yahoo.com (Lori Bell) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:08 2005 Subject: OEBF Ebook Conference Recap Message-ID: <20050418141049.50578.qmail@web52802.mail.yahoo.com> Tom Peters of TAP Information Services will provide a recap of the recent OEBF ebook conference held in New York City on April 14. The session will take place at 1 p.m. central time today. To participate, go to http://www.tcconference.com/lib/?auditorium&nopass_field=1 type your name and click enter to go into the online auditorium. All that is needed to participate are an Internet connection, sound card and speakers. For more information, contact Tom Peters at tapinformation@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From kgs at bluehighways.com Mon Apr 18 14:09:49 2005 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:08 2005 Subject: Annual LII Survey Launched Message-ID: <20050418180952.E7E4392@frontend3.messagingengine.com> (Apologies if you see this more than once!) Dear Web4Libbers and PubLibbers, Please take two or three minutes to fill out the annual survey for Librarians' Index to the Internet: http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB224A35EQA3L Or try this shorter URL: http://tinyurl.com/asljz Last year over 4,000 LII users helped us justify continued funding for our services, fine-tune our offerings, and develop new services. We look forward to hearing from you again, and hearing from new voices, as well. We will roll out a new website in mid-June, and your feedback will be invaluable as we go the last mile toward this goal. Thanks again for taking time to fill out the 2005 LII user survey. The survey will be available until 11:59 p.m. Sunday, April 24, 2005. Karen G. Schneider Director, Librarian's Index to the Internet http://lii.org kgs@lii.org Websites you can trust! From kirwin at wittenberg.edu Mon Apr 18 16:39:32 2005 From: kirwin at wittenberg.edu (Kenneth R. Irwin) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:08 2005 Subject: user-reviews in OPAC (redux) Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050418163122.028e0790@imap.wittenberg.edu> Hi folks, One of our faculty members recently asked if we could add functionality that would allow patrons to comment on books to the OPAC a la Amazon. This is not a new idea, nor is it a first for this list, but it *is* the first time I've actually had a patron ask for this functionality. Heretofore it has all been librarianly wouldn't-it-be-cool. So I checked the archives and found some discussion of this from 1999-2000 and I'm wondering if anyone's been working on this since then. Is it happening? Have we abandoned the idea? Did my searching miss more recent discussions? I'm just starting to think about ways this might sensibly be accomplished; is anyone a few steps ahead of me? I'd be especially keen to hear about integrating this functionality on/with III's Innopac platform, but any practical (or, heck, theoretical) experience would be welcome. Thanks Ken Ken Irwin kirwin@wittenberg.edu Reference/Electronic Resources Librarian (937) 327-7594 Thomas Library, Wittenberg University From jmf at liblime.com Mon Apr 18 17:05:41 2005 From: jmf at liblime.com (Joshua Ferraro) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:08 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] user-reviews in OPAC (redux) In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050418163122.028e0790@imap.wittenberg.edu> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050418163122.028e0790@imap.wittenberg.edu> Message-ID: <20050418210541.GA880@gandalf.liblime.com> So Koha has a new Amazon module that allows viewing of Amazon reviews ... not quite what you're asking but similar. It also allows library patrons to click through to the Amazon item and add a review on it. (OK, I admit it, I just added that feature ;-)) If you want a demo check out LibLime's OPAC demo: http://opac.liblime.com Our data's not the greatest but a search on 'home' returns a few results with Amazon content. Here's one: http://opac.liblime.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?bib=826 BTW: anyone got any 'really nice' MARC data they want to send me for insertion in to Koha :-) ? -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE CEO, LIBLIME migration, training, maintenance, support jmf@liblime.com Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter 1(740)707-7654 TRY OUR FULL DEMOS AT http://liblime.com From SuHui at library.ucsd.edu Mon Apr 18 20:44:08 2005 From: SuHui at library.ucsd.edu (SuHui Ho) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:08 2005 Subject: LACASIS Half-Day Program: Open Source from a Decision-Maker's Perspective Message-ID: ************************************************************** ELECTRONIC POSTING ONLY Please forward to any interested colleagues ************************************************************** **SAVE THE DATE** LACASIS Half-Day Program Friday, May 13, 2005 8:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. Open Source from a Decision-Maker's Perspective Come and learn how several organizations have dealt with Open Source applications. (For background info see: http://www.opensource.org) Christina Salazar of the Getty Library will introduce Open Source software, Elisa Cortez, Reference Librarian/Dentistry Liaison of Loma Linda University Libraries, will discuss DSPACE as a tool for disseminating training videos. Bradley D. Westbrook, Metadata Librarian and Digital Archivist for University of California San Diego Libraries, will focus on the Archivists' Toolkit, and Erik Y. Adams, Electronic Resources Librarian of Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton will present the legal aspects of using Open Source software. When: Friday, May 13, 2005 8:00 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. Where: The Amateur Athletic Foundation of Los Angeles 2141 W. Adams Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90018 (323) 730-4600 www.aafla.org Cost: Students $25 LACASIS members $32 Non-members $45 Includes Continental breakfast and lunch Registration is available through the LACASIS website: http://www.lacasis.org or you may mail the registration form below. Registration deadline is Friday, May 6, 2005. Participation limited to 45 attendees so please register early. Schedule: 8:00 a.m. Continental breakfast / registration 8:30 a.m. Opening remarks 8:45 a.m. Intro to Open Source, Christina Salazar 9:15 a.m. DSpace, Elisa Cortez 10:30 a.m. Archivists' Toolkit, Bradley Westbrook 11:25 a.m. Legal issues surrounding OpenSource, Erik Adams 12:30 p.m. Lunch Driving directions (map at: http://www.aafla.com/contact/contact_frmst.htm): >From the South: If you are approaching the AAF westbound on the 10 Freeway, exit at Western Avenue. Turn south (left) onto Western and drive two blocks to Adams Blvd. Turn west (right) onto Adams. The AAF is two blocks west at 2141 W. Adams Blvd. >From the North: If you are driving eastbound on the 10 Freeway, exit at Arlington Avenue. Turn south (right) onto Arlington and drive three blocks to Adams Blvd. Turn east (left) on Adams and proceed two blocks. The AAF is at the northeast corner of Adams and Gramercy at 2141 W. Adams Blvd. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ REGISTRATION FORM Name & Affiliation LACASIS Member or Student? ___ LACASIS Member ___ Library School Student Email Address for Confirmation First LACASIS Event? ___ Yes ___ No Want to help underwrite student costs? Amount ____________ Total Amount Enclosed __________ Checks payable to LACASIS $32 members $45 non-members $25 students Please send form and check payable to LACASIS by Friday, April 6 to: Belinda Beardt 440 E. Cypress Avenue, #202 Burbank, Ca 91501 All payments must be received by the registration date indicated. Full refunds will be given for any cancellations prior to that date. LACASIS reserves the right to invoice registered individuals who do not cancel within the specified time period. If you have registration questions, please contact Belinda Beardt at lacasis@gmail.com or 213-289-9800 Please submit one form per person attending. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mike.beccaria at pictometry.com Fri Apr 22 08:42:43 2005 From: mike.beccaria at pictometry.com (Mike Beccaria) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to get it all done Message-ID: Alnisa, May I ask why you prefer commercial solutions over open-source CMS's? In your experience, what does Expression Engine offer that, say, Mambo or Drupal do not offer? I know that there are many differences in CMS's. I personally have not had the opportunity to deal with the commercial ones, only the open-source ones. I know I'm making a generalization, but have you noticed a difference in the products offered by commercial businesses versus the open source options aside from maybe customer support? I'm curious. Thanks, Mike ------------- Hi Karen- You definitely want a Content Management Solution (CMS). I took a look at your current site, and looked up some backend information on your current host. Kanren.net, your current host does have you on an Apache web server, and I spoke to their systems admin person and they offer access to PHP4 and MySQL, and don't restrict CMS. It also seems that they could help you guys some in selecting and installing a CMS system, though there is probably a fee associated with that. From rapidly going through your website, I don't see anything that couldn't be duplicated in a very good web publishing system, like Expression Engine (EE) http://www.pmachine.com/expressionengine/ rather than a high end CMS. No mistakes, EE is a CMS system, its just not as extensive as say Plone or other high-end/more expensive systems. They don't pay me, but I recommend them a lot. Why, because about a year and a half ago, we were managing a number of our nonprofit clients websites-- some were handcode, some we had developed custom CMS system for, others we were using Movable Type or some other publishing system for. It was a mess and a pain, and I often cringed when clients wanted updates they couldn't handle themselves. The pMachine introduced Expression Engine, and now we've switched 10 of 12 web clients over to it. The clients love being able to add and edit articles at will, and I love that when they contact us, its for something that's actually worth the money they'll be charged. I forget who said it, but planning is really a key component--who has access to what, if all staff can post, is there an official overseer for each content area, do post go live immediately, or get staged for review, etc., etc., etc. Poor human management can cause a slew of regrets. That said though... With an application like Expression Engine, you can have it installed and running in about 15 minutes. Of course that's using a default template, so you'd then have to add time to move your current templates into the system, decide how to break-up content, etc. It sounds hard, but could be done fairly quickly. I could go on, about what to do and how, but you should really look at a few different systems, demo them if possible; then maybe speak with someone at Kanren if you have any questions about what will or won't work on their systems. Then if you need more specific help regarding planning and structure send me an email. Any assistance, I can write up in my free time or when I'm avoiding client projects is available. Alnisa From jmf at liblime.com Fri Apr 22 08:55:03 2005 From: jmf at liblime.com (Joshua Ferraro) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to get it all done In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050422125503.GB12582@gandalf.liblime.com> I must agree with Mike's comments. Open-source CMSes are every bit as full-featured and powerful as their proprietary counterparts. A great way to evaluate Open-source CMSes is to visit http://www.opensourcecms.com/ which has quite a few fully-working demos. Also, if you want to see a library-specific demo, LibLime has one that uses Mambo: http://mambo.liblime.com These CMSes are 100% free, and pretty simple to setup if you're at all technically inclined. If you or your staff can't support them in-house LibLime would be happy to help out. -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE CEO, LIBLIME migration, training, maintenance, support jmf@liblime.com Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter 1(740)707-7654 TRY OUR FULL DEMOS AT http://liblime.com From cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca Fri Apr 22 09:54:17 2005 From: cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Gray) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Fw: [Libs-Or] [Fwd: Our future??] In-Reply-To: <049901c546e5$df4d5710$63327181@lib.panam.edu> References: <049901c546e5$df4d5710$63327181@lib.panam.edu> Message-ID: Concerning the video's claim that commercial interests will guaranty that we get a network of information that is largely watered down and unreliable (this would be something new?), I'm inclined to respond by quoting Sturgeon's Law: "Sturgeon's Law /prov./ "Ninety percent of everything is crap". Derived from a quote by science fiction author Theodore Sturgeon, who once said, "Sure, 90% of science fiction is crud. That's because 90% of everything is crud." Oddly, when Sturgeon's Law is cited, the final word is almost invariably changed to `crap'. Compare Hanlon's Razor, Ninety-Ninety Rule. Though this maxim originated in SF fandom, most hackers recognize it and are all too aware of its truth." --http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/s/SturgeonsLaw.html It's a depressing thought in that the good is always swamped by the bad, but it's an encouraging one in that the good is always there if you're willing to look for it. C'est la vie. Keep reading Zen and the Art of Motorcyle Maintenance and keep pursuing Quality. Don't get bent out of shape coveting what Amazon and Google and Microsoft seem to have. Chris "The brain is a wonderful organ. It starts working the moment you get up in the morning and does not stop until you get into the office." -Robert Frost On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Ward Price wrote: > You saw it here first? (I saw this on the Libs-Or mailing list.) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > This was sent to an OCLC list. I have been thinking about it and am not > quite sure what to say. I am curious to know what you might think. > > > > ============================================================ > > > > > Colleagues, > > > > At ACRL I learned about an eight-minute streaming video that you may find > > .... well, troubling, pure fantasy, depressing ... interesting. In any > > case you should probably take the time to view it. While it is about "the > > press" as we know it today we might see some dangerous similarities to our > > situation in libraries. > > > > The video is called EPIC - Evolving > > Personal Information Construct. (http://www.robinsloan.com/epic/) > > > > EPIC is a history of the development of the Web as an information resource > > from the recent past to 2014. The focus is on what happens to the press > > over this period. > > > > The video begins: > > > > It is the best of times. It is the worst of time. In the year 2014 > people > > have access to a breadth and depth of information unimaginable in an > > earlier age. Everyone contributes in some way. Everyone participates to > > create a living, breathing mediascape. However ........ > > > > What is your reaction? Does this have any relevance for libraries? > > ============================================================ > > > > > > C. Ward Price Web Librarian > University of Texas-Pan American > http://www.lib.panam.edu/ > wprice@panam.edu > (956) 316-7046 > > From alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org Fri Apr 22 10:47:37 2005 From: alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org (Alnisa Allgood) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to get it all done In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 5:43 AM -0700 4/22/05, Mike Beccaria wrote: >Alnisa, > >May I ask why you prefer commercial solutions over open-source >CMS's? In your experience, what does Expression Engine offer that, >say, Mambo or Drupal do not offer? I know that there are many >differences in CMS's. I personally have not had the opportunity to >deal with the commercial ones, only the open-source ones. I know I'm >making a generalization, but have you noticed a difference in the >products offered by commercial businesses versus the open source >options aside from maybe customer support? > It's not really a preference, its more about the tool. I've heard good things about Mambo, but not so much that I would recommend it over Plone. Of course Plone is python based and I'm a PHP girl, so its definitely a coin toss issue, to a degree. I have used a variety of open source tools, when trying to find a good fit. Expression Engine just became the tool of preference. Support is important, and the pMachine folks are responsive when needed, but also the community members are gong ho, and possible even more responsive than the staff. The have a consistent development timeline, so new features, functions, modules, plug-ins etc., are always coming at a nice clip (less stagnation that some of the open source projects I've worked with). A very good user interface, I heard nice things about Mambo, but most UI experiences in open source software suck. Since, I started on the design side of things before the programming, I hate that; but also it just makes a product less sufficient. Expression Engine is my current CMS of choice, because ... 1) It's well designed, and modular-In fact almost of its functionality is from modules, interactive components. This does make it more flexible than any other system I've tested. 2) It's expandable, extendible, and augmentable- new modules can be added and developed at will (well if your a developer); a number of plug-ins to adapt, and extend behavior are available and easy to create, but even better for situations that don't require a full fledge module, you can either use EE's own custom query and coding language to add new functionality, embed mini-php solutions, or reference full scale php solutions directly within the application. 3) Security is fairly extensive, far more so than most CMS/blogging software, but probably not as extensive as some of the high-end stuff. 4) Affordable- when you get into content management systems, you often have people divided at two opposing ends--open source/free software (typically chosen because it was free; and offered a feature set that was needed; as opposed to the quality of software (that's not a criticism of drupal, plone, phpnuke, mambo, etc., etc. just a reference of how a number of users end of with software)) and high-end commercial (software that starts at $2,000 and keeps going higher). 5) Clean code- As a developer, using a system that is cleanly coded, and well documented (in the code) is just great. It allows me to believe, if every other single resource for develop of the system dried up, I could still work with, expand, and develop the system myself. I've fiddle in the code of some of these other systems. I'm fairly certain, I'd just as soon start from scratch, if all other resource dried up. EE is commercial with a kind of shareware mentality. Depending on if its a for profit, non-profit, or cross upgrade the cost is between $50-$200. Not very expensive, and pays for itself fairly rapidly. Also for us (I work with Nonprofit Tech), its about money and time and energy saved for the client as well. When we have to custom build a CMS for a client, it will typically start at $10,000 plus, and that's with our fees being massively lower than current market rates; and us being fairly laxed about billable hours. And we always have to come back and add new features and functionality after the fact; because what you want after using a system daily, is fairly different from what you want when your just dreaming up a system. EE allows us to skip the first $10,000 in fees, and build on a system. Plus, its just well-coded, fairly well documented (some features code use more documentation or maybe just some examples of use--cause I know, I'm still having ah ha moments. Basic CMS (there), User Management (there), Content Staging (there), Standards Driven (yes), Security (leveled--user, admin, super admins; per page, per section, per site); commenting (there), image handling (there), etc., etc. EE for me is like the FileMaker of CMSs. It's simple, easy to use, powerful; new users take to it like flies to syrup, and developers love the flexible working environment it creates for them. Plus it's PHP/MySQL, and XHTML/CSS I could probably go on, but this email is long enough. Here's some links that offer some insights from users of EE, Mambo, and Plone http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200409/open_source_cms_recommendations_wanted/ http://www.pmachine.com/forum/threads.php?id=15056_0_19_0_C http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=12367&page=1&pp=10 http://forum.textpattern.com/viewtopic.php?id=1866 http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2004/07/standards_compliant_cmss_and_blogging_tools/ http://www.blogherald.com/2005/03/31/10-diy-blog-platforms-you-may-not-have-visited/ Also, a bit out of date, but an okay comparison chart http://www.asymptomatic.net/blogbreakdown.htm Alnisa From SMorath at msdinc.com Fri Apr 22 10:54:15 2005 From: SMorath at msdinc.com (Sonya Morath) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [JOB] Pubmet Quality Assurance-Opportunity within NIH Message-ID: <480ED19A579467459C9CCACFCD2135F70117EB5A@utah.inside.msdinc.com> Please feel free to distribute: MSD - NCBI PubMed Team Member Summary: The Information Specialist as a Team Member will provide internal support for the NIH PubMed, MeSH and Journals Entrez databases. 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From alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org Fri Apr 22 11:00:51 2005 From: alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org (Alnisa Allgood) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to get it all done In-Reply-To: <20050422125503.GB12582@gandalf.liblime.com> References: <20050422125503.GB12582@gandalf.liblime.com> Message-ID: At 5:59 AM -0700 4/22/05, Joshua Ferraro wrote: >I must agree with Mike's comments. Open-source CMSes are every bit as >full-featured and powerful as their proprietary counterparts. A great >way to evaluate Open-source CMSes is to visit http://www.opensourcecms.com/ >which has quite a few fully-working demos. Also, if you want to see a >library-specific demo, LibLime has one that uses Mambo: I've never been a proponent of using open-source software, just to say your using open-source. I believe the benefits of open source software, especially for nonprofit and public institutions are great. Nonprofit Tech, the nonprofit I work with, is a strong advocate for open-source software in the sector; but each tool still needs to be measured on its own. There's a lot of really bad open-source software; just as there is volumes upon volumes of really bad commercial software. My recommendation of Expression Engine, doesn't really say anything about either the good or bad of open-source vs commercial. It says, that I believe EE rocks. It's simple, clean, easy-to-use, easy-to-develop for, flexible, powerful, and well worth the small cost associated with it. Especially since it will save you tons of money, tons of time, and tons of hair pulling. Besides Expression Engine is commercial not strictly proprietarial. It's based on open source tools (PHP and MySQL, a LAMP solution). There is a difference, I use open source tools to make a living, and so does pMachine the makers of EE. I just acknowledge that theu've coded a better system than I could have, while adhering to many of the priniciples of development I consider important; and I'm willing to pay them for that. Alnisa From jmf at liblime.com Fri Apr 22 11:35:30 2005 From: jmf at liblime.com (Joshua Ferraro) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to get it all done In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050422153530.GD12582@gandalf.liblime.com> I don't think 'saying' you're using open source is the point. Neither is using open source that's inferior to proprietary systems. The difference with open source is that you have the power to change how the tool measures up. That's how companies like Red Hat and LibLime exist: we have users who recognize that it's more efficient to pay for support and development than licenses. For instance, when Nelsonville Public Library in Ohio first looked at Koha, it didn't have MARC support. They could have thrown the towel in right there and decided to go with a proprietary system -- as a tool, Koha didn't measure up. However, when they looked at the numbers they realized that developing MARC support would cost less than migrating to another proprietary system. And regardless of whether a system is built on open source tools, it's proprietary when the code is closed. EE may be a great product, but what will happen to it if pMachine decides not to continue development on it? If it was open source, it's users could simply find another software team to continue. Joshua On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 08:03:40AM -0700, Alnisa Allgood wrote: > At 5:59 AM -0700 4/22/05, Joshua Ferraro wrote: > >I must agree with Mike's comments. Open-source CMSes are every bit as > >full-featured and powerful as their proprietary counterparts. A great > >way to evaluate Open-source CMSes is to visit http://www.opensourcecms.com/ > >which has quite a few fully-working demos. Also, if you want to see a > >library-specific demo, LibLime has one that uses Mambo: > > I've never been a proponent of using open-source software, just to > say your using open-source. I believe the benefits of open source > software, especially for nonprofit and public institutions are great. > Nonprofit Tech, the nonprofit I work with, is a strong advocate for > open-source software in the sector; but each tool still needs to be > measured on its own. > > There's a lot of really bad open-source software; just as there is > volumes upon volumes of really bad commercial software. My > recommendation of Expression Engine, doesn't really say anything > about either the good or bad of open-source vs commercial. It says, > that I believe EE rocks. It's simple, clean, easy-to-use, > easy-to-develop for, flexible, powerful, and well worth the small > cost associated with it. Especially since it will save you tons of > money, tons of time, and tons of hair pulling. > > Besides Expression Engine is commercial not strictly proprietarial. > It's based on open source tools (PHP and MySQL, a LAMP solution). > There is a difference, I use open source tools to make a living, and > so does pMachine the makers of EE. I just acknowledge that theu've > coded a better system than I could have, while adhering to many of > the priniciples of development I consider important; and I'm willing > to pay them for that. > > Alnisa > -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE CEO, LIBLIME migration, training, maintenance, support jmf@liblime.com Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter 1(740)707-7654 TRY OUR FULL DEMOS AT http://liblime.com From vishwam.annam at wright.edu Fri Apr 22 11:57:41 2005 From: vishwam.annam at wright.edu (Vishwam Annam) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] how to get it all done In-Reply-To: <200504211300.AA23396382@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> References: <200504211300.AA23396382@post.lawrence.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: <42691EF5.6000202@wright.edu> >Each new set of pages I consider creating is now making me *cringe*. Too much repetitive work! How can I do all this as efficiently as possible? If you are not currently using, I suggest use server side include files, . They can certainly takes some of your burden in updating or creating a new pages. For example, if a site has same banner, and footer across all it's pages, instead of hard coding this code in every page, you can save the banner and footer's code in 2 different files, say banner.html and footer.html, and then include these files in your pages. It really helps in ease of updating, for example if you want chnage banner logo, all you need to do is change the code in banner.html file, this will reflect in all the pages. Vishwam Vishwam Annam Web Developer Wright State University Libraries Dayton, Ohio Karen Davis wrote: >Unfortunately, all I know how to do is create stand-alone web pages. I can see that I'm going to be swamped if I continue this way. I don't have a content management system for staff to use (e.g. Contribute). Each new set of pages I consider creating is now making me *cringe*. Too much repetitive work! How can I do all this as efficiently as possible? I > >I've recommended Contribute 3 to help distribute the content maintenance work among department staff (who are willing ot do it), but am told there are security issues which make it unfeasible, since we don't have an in-house staging server (just ftp to an ISP). > >You all know a great deal more than I do, so, if you could suggest how I should recommend that this be set up to run efficiently, I would be grateful! What do I need? > >Thanks again very much for your advice. > >++++++++++++++++++ >Current tools and setup for the web site: >* Dreamweaver MX 2004, Photoshop 6 >* one user account at an ISP with ftp connection >* Forms handled with a Perl script (maintained by a techie as necessary, not me) >++++++++++++++++++ > > > >-- >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Karen Davis, Coordinator >Center for Community Networking & >Web Administrator >Lawrence Public Library >707 Vermont Street >Lawrence, KS 66044 >785.843.3833 ext. 104 > >-- > > > From jfitzgibbon at Galwaylibrary.ie Fri Apr 22 11:56:32 2005 From: jfitzgibbon at Galwaylibrary.ie (John Fitzgibbon) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: Using CSS to style the first occurence of an element nested within another element Message-ID: Hi, I'm attempting to style the first table cell within certain table rows. I'm using the following CSS instructions. The table cells do not have a class attribute. tr.selectedclass td:first-node{color:green;} However, this is not working. Any ideas would be most welcome. Regards John John Fitzgibbon Galway Public Library Island House Cathedral Square Galway Ireland p: 00 353 91 562471 f: 00 353 91 565039 w: http://www.galwaylibrary.ie ******************************************************************* Tá eolas atá príobháideach agus rúnda sa ríomhphost seo agus aon iatán a ghabhann leis agus is leis an duine/na daoine sin amháin a bhfuil siad seolta chucu a bhaineann siad. Mura seolaí thú, níl tú údaraithe an ríomhphost nó aon iatán a ghabhann leis a léamh, a chóipáil ná a úsáid. Má tá an ríomhphost seo faighte agat trí dhearmad, cuir an seoltóir ar an eolas thrí aischur ríomhphoist agus scrios ansin é le do thoil. This e-mail and any attachment contains information which is private and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e-mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. ********************************************************************* From brounk at mail.nih.gov Fri Apr 22 12:20:51 2005 From: brounk at mail.nih.gov (Broun, Kevin (NIH/NCI)) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Using CSS to style the first occurence of an elemen t nested within Message-ID: <4CCA53563257AC478E6F764AC6CD0816C0F7C7@nihexchange11.nih.gov> I think you want the ":first-child" pseudo-class, but note that this is a CSS2 recommendation that's not supported in MSIE (yet). Probably better to class those td's, bummer that it may be. This page, among many others, documents this . - Kevin -----Original Message----- From: John Fitzgibbon [mailto:jfitzgibbon@Galwaylibrary.ie] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 12:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Using CSS to style the first occurence of an element nested within Hi, I'm attempting to style the first table cell within certain table rows. I'm using the following CSS instructions. The table cells do not have a class attribute. tr.selectedclass td:first-node{color:green;} However, this is not working. Any ideas would be most welcome. Regards John John Fitzgibbon Galway Public Library Island House Cathedral Square Galway Ireland p: 00 353 91 562471 f: 00 353 91 565039 w: http://www.galwaylibrary.ie ******************************************************************* T? eolas at? pr?obh?ideach agus r?nda sa r?omhphost seo agus aon iat?n a ghabhann leis agus is leis an duine/na daoine sin amh?in a bhfuil siad seolta chucu a bhaineann siad. Mura seola? th?, n?l t? ?daraithe an r?omhphost n? aon iat?n a ghabhann leis a l?amh, a ch?ip?il n? a ?s?id. M? t? an r?omhphost seo faighte agat tr? dhearmad, cuir an seolt?ir ar an eolas thr? aischur r?omhphoist agus scrios ansin ? le do thoil. This e-mail and any attachment contains information which is private and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e-mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. ********************************************************************* From alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org Fri Apr 22 12:29:58 2005 From: alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org (Alnisa Allgood) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to get it all done In-Reply-To: <20050422153530.GD12582@gandalf.liblime.com> References: <20050422153530.GD12582@gandalf.liblime.com> Message-ID: At 8:39 AM -0700 4/22/05, Joshua Ferraro wrote: >And regardless of whether a system is built on open source tools, it's >proprietary when the code is closed. EE may be a great product, but >what will happen to it if pMachine decides not to continue development >on it? If it was open source, it's users could simply find another >software team to continue. > Reading is fundamental. As I said, EE isn't proprietary software (strictly speaking). The code is open and accessible, it's just not developed as an open source project. Expression Engine is commercial, just as Red Hat Linux and MySQL are commercial. There's a difference. The terms of its software modification are... Software Modification You may alter, modify, or extend the software for your own use, or commission a third-party to perform modifications for you, but you may not resell, redistribute or transfer the modified or derivative version without prior written consent from pMachine Inc. Components from ExpressionEngine Software may not be extracted and used in other programs without prior written consent from pMachine Inc. If something were to happen to the pMachine staff, there are numerous people who could continue development and or modification of the system; if an organization so wanted to. As I said, don't equate open source with free; but also acknowledge that the playground includes far more options than just open source vs proprietary software. Alnisa From ktmills at gmail.com Fri Apr 22 12:30:52 2005 From: ktmills at gmail.com (Katie Mills) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: USB memory Message-ID: <4da7c07f05042209307cb3721@mail.gmail.com> At the public library in which I am a reference librarian patrons have begun asking if they can use USB memory (jump drives, thumb drives, etc.) on library computers. Right now they can only use floppies which limits them to 1.44 mb. Our public access computers run Windows 2000 and our security/patron management program is SAM (by Comprise Technologies). The problem: SAM security locks down the desktop and system tray. The only usable desktop icons are Internet Explorer and the recycle bin. The system tray has the clock and SAM staff icons. When you plug in a USB drive the little green arrow does not show up in the tray and thus cannot be shut off before removing it. The start button is disabled so control panel is also off limits. If the patron goes through the procedure of saving their work and everything is done properly except closing the drive can the drive or PC be damaged when the drive is removed? Will data be lost like the ominous MS message portends? Can an icon be placed on the desktop that patrons can use to shut down the device? (If I can keep this clean and fairly simple I might have a shot at getting this to happen.) Another problem is that I'm getting mixed advice from knowledgeable people. One says that yes the device can be damaged and data can be lost and another says nothing will happen since it's hot swappable and all we need to do is turn off the error message. Any thoughts or suggestions? Has anyone done this in a SAM environment or at least made this work without using the system tray or the control panel? Thank you for any insight or advice you can provide! Katie Mills, MLS From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Fri Apr 22 12:39:36 2005 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] USB memory In-Reply-To: <4da7c07f05042209307cb3721@mail.gmail.com> References: <4da7c07f05042209307cb3721@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <58131.198.111.163.210.1114187976.squirrel@mail.tln.lib.mi.us> Katie, You're in luck - this was discussed just a couple of months ago. See this post by Alnisa Allgood on how to add a shortcut for Unplug/Eject Disk/Device to the desktop: http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/archive/0502/0070.html There's a number of related posts in the archive on this topic: http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/archive/0502/thread.html#54 I've never heard of a device actually being damaged when you remove it without stopping it. However, I have personally experienced the loss of data when I removed a device before a file was completely transferred to the device (on Windows 2000). As far as adding USB support generally, I would encourage you to pursue it. Our patrons expect it to be available. Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI > At the public library in which I am a reference librarian patrons have > begun asking if they can use USB memory (jump drives, thumb drives, > etc.) on library computers. Right now they can only use floppies > which limits them to 1.44 mb. Our public access computers run Windows > 2000 and our security/patron management program is SAM (by Comprise > Technologies). > > The problem: SAM security locks down the desktop and system tray. > The only usable desktop icons are Internet Explorer and the recycle > bin. The system tray has the clock and SAM staff icons. When you > plug in a USB drive the little green arrow does not show up in the > tray and thus cannot be shut off before removing it. The start button > is disabled so control panel is also off limits. > > If the patron goes through the procedure of saving their work and > everything is done properly except closing the drive can the drive or > PC be damaged when the drive is removed? Will data be lost like the > ominous MS message portends? > > Can an icon be placed on the desktop that patrons can use to shut down > the device? (If I can keep this clean and fairly simple I might have > a shot at getting this to happen.) > > Another problem is that I'm getting mixed advice from knowledgeable > people. One says that yes the device can be damaged and data can be > lost and another says nothing will happen since it's hot swappable and > all we need to do is turn off the error message. > > Any thoughts or suggestions? Has anyone done this in a SAM > environment or at least made this work without using the system tray > or the control panel? > > Thank you for any insight or advice you can provide! > > Katie Mills, MLS > > > From ktmills at gmail.com Fri Apr 22 12:54:51 2005 From: ktmills at gmail.com (Katie Mills) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] USB memory In-Reply-To: <58131.198.111.163.210.1114187976.squirrel@mail.tln.lib.mi.us> References: <4da7c07f05042209307cb3721@mail.gmail.com> <58131.198.111.163.210.1114187976.squirrel@mail.tln.lib.mi.us> Message-ID: <4da7c07f050422095452fa1fe9@mail.gmail.com> Perfect! It explains the process in detail. Thank you very much, Katie Mills On 4/22/05, Andrew Mutch wrote: > Katie, > > You're in luck - this was discussed just a couple of months ago. See this > post by Alnisa Allgood on how to add a shortcut for Unplug/Eject > Disk/Device to the desktop: > > http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/archive/0502/0070.html > > There's a number of related posts in the archive on this topic: > > http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/archive/0502/thread.html#54 > > I've never heard of a device actually being damaged when you remove it > without stopping it. However, I have personally experienced the loss of > data when I removed a device before a file was completely transferred to > the device (on Windows 2000). As far as adding USB support generally, I > would encourage you to pursue it. Our patrons expect it to be available. > > Andrew Mutch > Library Systems Technician > Waterford Township Public Library > Waterford, MI > > > > At the public library in which I am a reference librarian patrons have > > begun asking if they can use USB memory (jump drives, thumb drives, > > etc.) on library computers. Right now they can only use floppies > > which limits them to 1.44 mb. Our public access computers run Windows > > 2000 and our security/patron management program is SAM (by Comprise > > Technologies). > > > > The problem: SAM security locks down the desktop and system tray. > > The only usable desktop icons are Internet Explorer and the recycle > > bin. The system tray has the clock and SAM staff icons. When you > > plug in a USB drive the little green arrow does not show up in the > > tray and thus cannot be shut off before removing it. The start button > > is disabled so control panel is also off limits. > > > > If the patron goes through the procedure of saving their work and > > everything is done properly except closing the drive can the drive or > > PC be damaged when the drive is removed? Will data be lost like the > > ominous MS message portends? > > > > Can an icon be placed on the desktop that patrons can use to shut down > > the device? (If I can keep this clean and fairly simple I might have > > a shot at getting this to happen.) > > > > Another problem is that I'm getting mixed advice from knowledgeable > > people. One says that yes the device can be damaged and data can be > > lost and another says nothing will happen since it's hot swappable and > > all we need to do is turn off the error message. > > > > Any thoughts or suggestions? Has anyone done this in a SAM > > environment or at least made this work without using the system tray > > or the control panel? > > > > Thank you for any insight or advice you can provide! > > > > Katie Mills, MLS > > > > > > > > From jmf at liblime.com Fri Apr 22 13:03:08 2005 From: jmf at liblime.com (Joshua Ferraro) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to get it all done In-Reply-To: References: <20050422153530.GD12582@gandalf.liblime.com> Message-ID: <20050422170308.GE12582@gandalf.liblime.com> Yes, reading is fundamental. EE IS proprietary software (strictly speaking). The terms of use clarify it nicely: > may not resell, redistribute or transfer the modified or derivative > version without prior written consent from pMachine Inc. Components > from ExpressionEngine Software may not be extracted and used in other > programs without prior written consent from pMachine Inc." If something were to happen to pMachine, your local software folks may be able to continue supporting it, but you would not be able to redistribute it in any way. The project as a whole, then, would die--unless pMachine redistributed it with a different license. I apologize if my tone wasn't friendly earlier; my goal was to point out what I see as a key difference between a product like EE, and Mambo. It may not be an important distinction for everyone, but it's the core principle that I'm building my business around, so I'm eager to defend it. Joshua On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 11:29:58AM -0500, Alnisa Allgood wrote: > At 8:39 AM -0700 4/22/05, Joshua Ferraro wrote: > >And regardless of whether a system is built on open source tools, it's > >proprietary when the code is closed. EE may be a great product, but > >what will happen to it if pMachine decides not to continue development > >on it? If it was open source, it's users could simply find another > >software team to continue. > > > > Reading is fundamental. As I said, EE isn't proprietary software > (strictly speaking). The code is open and accessible, it's just not > developed as an open source project. Expression Engine is > commercial, just as Red Hat Linux and MySQL are commercial. There's > a difference. The terms of its software modification are... > > Software Modification > You may alter, modify, or extend the software for your own use, or > commission a third-party to perform modifications for you, but you > may not resell, redistribute or transfer the modified or derivative > version without prior written consent from pMachine Inc. Components > from ExpressionEngine Software may not be extracted and used in other > programs without prior written consent from pMachine Inc. > > If something were to happen to the pMachine staff, there are numerous > people who could continue development and or modification of the > system; if an organization so wanted to. As I said, don't equate > open source with free; but also acknowledge that the playground > includes far more options than just open source vs proprietary > software. > > Alnisa > -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE CEO, LIBLIME migration, training, maintenance, support jmf@liblime.com Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter 1(740)707-7654 TRY OUR FULL DEMOS AT http://liblime.com From stokesl at LVCCLD.ORG Fri Apr 22 14:02:35 2005 From: stokesl at LVCCLD.ORG (Stokes Lauren P.) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <6A46E6188C982E44BF99D3FF7CC9474701693742@bems1.AD.LVCCLD.ORG> I am looking for Public Library websites which meet ADA compliance. Please forward me your library's URL if you meet it and let me know which level you meet 1, 2 and 3. Thank you very much. Lauren Stokes Virtual Library Manager Las Vegas-Clark County Library District stokesl@lvccld.org 702.507.3414 ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org Fri Apr 22 14:15:07 2005 From: alnisa at nonprofit-tech.org (Alnisa Allgood) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to get it all done In-Reply-To: <20050422170308.GE12582@gandalf.liblime.com> Message-ID: <200504221815.j3MIFL4E018929@webjunction.org> Okay, my last post on the topic. Just because software isn't open source, doesn't make it proprietary. It's not an either or option, but a continuum. Richard Stallman, of GNU fame, defines proprietary software as... "Proprietary software is a kind of software where end-users do not have the freedom to control what it does and study or edit the source code." Users have the freedom to study, and edit the source code of EE. What they don't have is the right to redistribute it and make a profit from pMachine's work. Of course they can create modules and sell those if they like. EE doesn't meet the 10 criteria of open source as defined by http://www.opensource.org; but it doesn't meet the traditional and historical definition of proprietary either. Just as MySQL offers a dual commercial license, and an open source license, and its often debated about whether MySQL should be considered open-source. EE doesn't claim open source creed, but offers a hybrid of open code and access while limiting redistribution. As does a number of other software vendors. -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Ferraro Sent: Fri, 22 April 2005 12:06:48 To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: how to get it all done Yes, reading is fundamental. EE IS proprietary software (strictly speaking). The terms of use clarify it nicely: > may not resell, redistribute or transfer the modified or derivative > version without prior written consent from pMachine Inc. Components > from ExpressionEngine Software may not be extracted and used in other > programs without prior written consent from pMachine Inc." If something were to happen to pMachine, your local software folks may be able to continue supporting it, but you would not be able to redistribute it in any way. The project as a whole, then, would die--unless pMachine redistributed it with a different license. I apologize if my tone wasn't friendly earlier; my goal was to point out what I see as a key difference between a product like EE, and Mambo. It may not be an important distinction for everyone, but it's the core principle that I'm building my business around, so I'm eager to defend it. Joshua On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 11:29:58AM -0500, Alnisa Allgood wrote: > At 8:39 AM -0700 4/22/05, Joshua Ferraro wrote: > >And regardless of whether a system is built on open source tools, it's > >proprietary when the code is closed. EE may be a great product, but > >what will happen to it if pMachine decides not to continue development > >on it? If it was open source, it's users could simply find another > >software team to continue. > > > > Reading is fundamental. As I said, EE isn't proprietary software > (strictly speaking). The code is open and accessible, it's just not > developed as an open source project. Expression Engine is > commercial, just as Red Hat Linux and MySQL are commercial. There's > a difference. The terms of its software modification are... > > Software Modification > You may alter, modify, or extend the software for your own use, or > commission a third-party to perform modifications for you, but you > may not resell, redistribute or transfer the modified or derivative > version without prior written consent from pMachine Inc. Components > from ExpressionEngine Software may not be extracted and used in other > programs without prior written consent from pMachine Inc. > > If something were to happen to the pMachine staff, there are numerous > people who could continue development and or modification of the > system; if an organization so wanted to. As I said, don't equate > open source with free; but also acknowledge that the playground > includes far more options than just open source vs proprietary > software. > > Alnisa > -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE CEO, LIBLIME migration, training, maintenance, support jmf@liblime.com Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter 1(740)707-7654 TRY OUR FULL DEMOS AT http://liblime.com From bstubbs at rci.rutgers.edu Fri Apr 22 14:24:37 2005 From: bstubbs at rci.rutgers.edu (Brian Stubbs) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: USB memory Message-ID: <42694165.8020206@rci.rutgers.edu> USB "thumb" drives are not only enjoying widespread adoption, people are now beginning to use them for more than simple file transfer and storage. A story on Slashdot last month highlighted software that can be run from a USB device. This can be incredibly useful, but also has some interesting considerations for places like libraries that offer public computers for use. -Software license issues. Currently, most of the ultraportable applications that I've seen are freeware/opensource, but eventually questions will be raised about a program licensed for use on a single computer, but installed on a thumbdrive and ported to different terminals. -Unintended extra functionality for public computers. In my own library, the public terminals have no office software installed on them, because they're intended to be used only for accessing the library catalog and researching online. Using software installed on a thumbdrive, I can run alternate web browsers, play music or dvd's (assuming the computers are equipped with CD-DVD drives), run an email client, use office productivity software, ftp files, even run an alternate operating system (several flavors of Linux). The ability to easily bypass the default settings and limitations of library public computers could offer other possibilities for people inclined towards mischief or criminal activity. I was pleasantly suprised at some of the different applications that will run from a USB drive: -OpenOffice (with no modification! Just install to the USB drive) -Portable Firefox, Portable Thunderbird, Portable NVU -Miranda, Trillian and HydraIRC (for IRC and IM chat) -Media Player Classic (will play just about any media file you can throw at it, including DVD's) -FileZilla(for FTP connections, file transfers) -Putty suite (FTP, SSH, Telnet...for those of you who still love command-line interface) Eventually, we may see a shift in computer usage where much of the available software can be installed to flash memory devices, and software licenses are issued per-person rather than per-computer. People would simply carry most of their software with them in their pocket, and use whatever computer is closest for convenience. At the moment, however, USB apps seem to be limited to techies, computer-savvy hobbiests and gadgeteers. Just thought that this growing trend might be something to keep in mind, for library staff who are considering allowing the use of USB memory on their public computers. Original Slashdot article: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/03/21/2220255&tid=185&tid=198&tid=184 Jeremy Wegstaff's LooseWire blog entry about usb apps (includes links to many of the most useful apps, also be sure to read through the comments at the bottom of the page for more suggestions): http://loosewire.typepad.com/blog/2005/03/a_directory_of_.html USBApps.com: http://www.usbapps.com/ -- Brian Stubbs Supervisor I, Alexander Library Access Services Dept, Rutgers University Libraries ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From abullen at ameritech.net Fri Apr 22 14:23:07 2005 From: abullen at ameritech.net (A. Bullen) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:16 2005 Subject: Perl code to put an Access database onto the web Message-ID: <4269410B.7070406@ameritech.net> Dear all, I had a number of requests for the Perl code to put an Access db onto the Internet through ODBC. I created a web page (http://findit.ilsos.net/web4lib/) with step-by-step instructions about connecting the two. Andrew Bullen Illinois State Library From jboeve at umuc.edu Mon Apr 25 09:23:42 2005 From: jboeve at umuc.edu (Jack Boeve) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:19 2005 Subject: Perceptions of Copyright Infringement -- A Symposium Message-ID: SYMPOSIUM on INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY Pirates, Thieves and Innocents: Perceptions of Copyright Infringement in the Digital Age http://www.umuc.edu/cip/symposium June 16-17, 2005 THEME: Exploring the ways in which we think and talk about copyright infringement in our digital age; focusing on issues relevant to the higher education community and the delivery of third-party copyrighted content. REGISTRATION: Early registration ends May 16, 2005. Space is limited. https://nighthawk.umuc.edu/CIPReg.nsf/Application?OpenForm. Some affiliation discounts apply. AGENDA: Visit http://www.umuc.edu/cip/symposium/agenda.html to see the topics to be addressed by our speakers and panelists who are experts in their fields. ROSTER: Speakers/panelists are available at http://www.umuc.edu/cip/symposium/speakers.html. ENTERTAINMENT: DC After Dark Tour -- Have dinner in DC and then see some of the city's monuments and memorials. Details at: http://www.umuc.edu/cip/symposium/DC_After_Dark.html. SPONSOR: the Center for Intellectual Property http://www.umuc.edu/cip/ Jack Boeve University of Maryland University College Center for Intellectual Property 240-582-2736 jboeve@umuc.edu From Christine.Menard at williams.edu Mon Apr 25 11:10:04 2005 From: Christine.Menard at williams.edu (Christine Menard) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:19 2005 Subject: Reference / Web Services Librarian Position Available at Williams College (Massachusetts) Message-ID: <426D084C.2070006@williams.edu> Reference/Web Services Librarian Williams College Williamstown, MA * Provide pro-active reference and instruction services in the humanities and social sciences. * Lead the library?s efforts to further develop an interactive web site that integrates the principles of information literacy and supports the scholarly and curricular needs of the College. * Work closely with students and faculty at a top-ranked, independent, liberal arts college located in the Berkshire Hills of western Massachusetts As a small liberal arts college library we value collegiality, collaboration, and working one-on-one with students and faculty. If you are seeking such an environment and are looking for a challenging position combining public service and web development, we invite you to apply. For complete job description and requirements: http://www.williams.edu/admin/hr/postings/300172.php Review of applications will begin on May 23, 2005 and continue until the position is filled. Job #300172-WEB4 From dan at riverofdata.com Mon Apr 25 11:30:58 2005 From: dan at riverofdata.com (Dan Lester) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:19 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Editorial - Copyright Ownership in Blogs In-Reply-To: <20050421205232.18991.qmail@web53303.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050421205232.18991.qmail@web53303.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <938693885.20050425093058@riverofdata.com> Thursday, April 21, 2005, 2:53:17 PM, you wrote: A> Blogs are original material, and once they A> are fixed in some form, saved digitally or in a print A> out, they are protected by copyright in most countries A> around the world. In fact, they would be protected for A> 50 to 70 years after an author's death - much beyond A> the life of any blog itself. Yes, the copyright protection is a fact. However, I don't consider the life of a blog as being that limited. Just think about the value of a blog created by Shakespeare or Mozart or Abraham Lincoln or all sorts of other folks. Now, as to whether a blog by a future genius or famous person will actually BE preserved is another question. Just as we don't have Shakespeare's rough drafts, we might not have the blog....but if we did.... dan -- Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com 208-283-7711 3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA www.riverofdata.com Fair is whatever God decides to do. From SuHui at library.ucsd.edu Mon Apr 25 13:51:54 2005 From: SuHui at library.ucsd.edu (SuHui Ho) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:19 2005 Subject: Reminder - LACASIS Half-Day Program: Open Source from a Decision-Maker's Perspective Message-ID: ************************************************************** ELECTRONIC POSTING ONLY Please forward to any interested colleagues ************************************************************** **SAVE THE DATE** LACASIS Half-Day Program Friday, May 13, 2005 8:00 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. Open Source from a Decision-Maker's Perspective Come and learn how several organizations have dealt with Open Source applications. (For background info see: http://www.opensource.org) Christina Salazar of the Getty Library will introduce Open Source software, Elisa Cortez, Reference Librarian/Dentistry Liaison of Loma Linda University Libraries, will discuss DSPACE as a tool for disseminating training videos. Bradley D. Westbrook, Metadata Librarian and Digital Archivist for University of California San Diego Libraries, will focus on the Archivists' Toolkit, and Erik Y. Adams, Electronic Resources Librarian of Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton will present the legal aspects of using Open Source software. When: Friday, May 13, 2005 8:00 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. Where: The Amateur Athletic Foundation of Los Angeles 2141 W. Adams Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90018 (323) 730-4600 www.aafla.org Cost: Students $25 LACASIS members $32 Non-members $45 Includes Continental breakfast and lunch Registration is available through the LACASIS website: http://www.lacasis.org or you may mail the registration form below. Registration deadline is Friday, May 6, 2005. Participation limited to 45 attendees so please register early. Schedule: 8:00 a.m. Continental breakfast / registration 8:30 a.m. Opening remarks 8:45 a.m. Intro to Open Source, Christina Salazar 9:15 a.m. DSpace, Elisa Cortez 10:30 a.m. Archivists' Toolkit, Bradley Westbrook 11:25 a.m. Legal issues surrounding OpenSource, Erik Adams 12:30 p.m. Lunch Driving directions (map at: http://www.aafla.com/contact/contact_frmst.htm): >From the South: If you are approaching the AAF westbound on the 10 Freeway, exit at Western Avenue. Turn south (left) onto Western and drive two blocks to Adams Blvd. Turn west (right) onto Adams. The AAF is two blocks west at 2141 W. Adams Blvd. >From the North: If you are driving eastbound on the 10 Freeway, exit at Arlington Avenue. Turn south (right) onto Arlington and drive three blocks to Adams Blvd. Turn east (left) on Adams and proceed two blocks. The AAF is at the northeast corner of Adams and Gramercy at 2141 W. Adams Blvd. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ REGISTRATION FORM Name & Affiliation LACASIS Member or Student? ___ LACASIS Member ___ Library School Student Email Address for Confirmation First LACASIS Event? ___ Yes ___ No Want to help underwrite student costs? Amount ____________ Total Amount Enclosed __________ Checks payable to LACASIS $32 members $45 non-members $25 students Please send form and check payable to LACASIS by Friday, April 6 to: Belinda Beardt 440 E. Cypress Avenue, #202 Burbank, Ca 91501 All payments must be received by the registration date indicated. Full refunds will be given for any cancellations prior to that date. LACASIS reserves the right to invoice registered individuals who do not cancel within the specified time period. If you have registration questions, please email Belinda Beardt at lacasis@gmail.com or phone at 213-489-9800 x102 or 877-965-7900x102. Please submit one form per person attending. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From lbell927 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 14:57:31 2005 From: lbell927 at yahoo.com (Lori Bell) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:19 2005 Subject: "To Light us to Freedom and Glory Again!" The Role of Civil War Poetry Message-ID: <20050425185731.73209.qmail@web52803.mail.yahoo.com> "To light us to freedom, and glory again!" The Role of Civil War Poetry Poetry written during the Civil War era was used as a means of political and social mobilization. Using the Library of Congress's online collections, we will explore how Northern and Southern war poetry helped unify citizens, inspire troops, memorialize the dead, and overcome the anger and resentment of both sides in the aftermath of the war. Join Library of Congress specialist Peter Armenti, Wednesday, April 27, 2:00 p.m. (E.D.T.) for an exploration of poetry written by Civil War soldiers, abolitionists, and citizenry both North and South. Many of the poems are presented as digital images scanned from nineteenth century books, periodicals, song sheets, and broadsides. Transcripts appear with some poems. To attend, go to http://www.tcconference.com/lib/?auditorium&nopass_field=1 Type your name and click Enter to go into the online room. Note: Internet Explorer is recommended. Log on 5 minutes early to allow for the the web conference software to be downloaded automatically to your computer. This web conference offers an opportunity for participants to share ideas, ask questions, and make comments both via text chat and microphone. To make full use of this capability, a headset with microphone attached is suggested. For more information about upcoming programs, see Online Programming for All Libraries (OPAL) at http://www.opal-online.org/. To learn more about poetry programs and resources at the Library of Congress, see http://www.loc.gov/poetry/. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From sgraham at usyd.edu.au Tue Apr 26 01:11:46 2005 From: sgraham at usyd.edu.au (Sarah Graham) Date: Wed May 18 14:53:19 2005 Subject: learning objects Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20050426145144.01b76280@pop.usyd.edu.au> I am part of a group at my library that is looking at developing a database, or library, of learning objects. Essentially we want to create a searchable repository for educational/instructional materials created by librarians. In part this repository would enable sharing of information and reduce the amount of duplicated effort in the library. Learning objects might include handouts, session plans, tutorials, web pages, etc. I was wondering whether anyone else on this list has been involved in the development or production of such a resource and would you be prepared to share some information? Specifically, I be interested your comments on the following: * What technologies/software did you use? * Did you hire an instructional designer? If so, were they a librarian? * What standards did you use for describing objects (e.g. did you use a particular metadata standard?) * Is the library/database accessible by students/the public, or is a resource restricted to staff/librarians? Any other comments or information would be valuable. Cheers, Sarah Sarah Graham Faculty Liaison Librarian Badham Library Camperdown Campus University of Sydney NSW 2006 Australia Phone +61 2 9351 7319 Fax +61 2 9351 3852 Email sgraham@usyd.edu.au From bernies at uillinois.edu Sat Apr 2 14:41:09 2005 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:21 2005 Subject: Reactions in LJ to Gorman's "Revenge of the Blog People" Message-ID: All from the April 1 issue: News item by Andrew Albanese: http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA512196 Editorial by Francine Fialkoff: http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA512180 Letters to the Editor: http://www.libraryjournal.com/article/CA512182 Bernie Sloan Senior Library Information Systems Consultant, ILCSO University of Illinois Office for Planning and Budgeting 616 E. Green Street, Suite 213 Champaign, IL 61820 Phone: (217) 333-4895 Fax: (217) 265-0454 E-mail: bernies@uillinois.edu From libtfd at langate.gsu.edu Tue Apr 5 10:26:21 2005 From: libtfd at langate.gsu.edu (Timothy Daniels) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:26 2005 Subject: Technology Plan Message-ID: Greetings, Here at the Georgia State University Library we are in the early stages of developing a technology plan. Dose anyone have any advice or a template they would like to share? Thanks Tim Tim Daniels Digital Technologies Librarian Georgia State University Library timdaniels@gsu.edu P-- 404-651-1430 F -- 404-651-2148 "Tell me, and I will forget. Show me, and I may remember. Involve me, and I will understand." Confucius circa 450 BC From gerrymck at iastate.edu Tue Apr 5 10:38:34 2005 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:26 2005 Subject: Introducing Bibliocasting List Message-ID: Posted on Behalf of Dave Lankes Apologies for Cross-Posting PLEASE REDISTRIBUTE WIDELY Introducing the Bibliocasting listserv. The bibliocasting listserv (bibliocasting@listserv.syr.edu) is dedicated to a discussion of streaming media in the library environment. This list grows out of the increasing popularity of "Podcasting," or the use of RSS and the Internet to download audio programs (like audio blogs) to computers and MP3 players. A recent Reuters story states: "Twenty-nine percent of U.S. adults who own MP3 players like Apple Computer Inc.'s iPod say they have downloaded podcast programs from the Internet, the Pew Internet and American Life Project found...That means more than 6 million people are listening to a form of communication that emerged only last year, according to the nonprofit group." So what to post on the list? Examples of how libraries can build on the growing excitement of Podcasting; Questions on how libraries can use podcasting and other multimedia information they create to promote themselves and provide better service; Questions on how to podcast and other technical questions on streaming media including QuickTime Streaming, RealProducer, and others. In addition, the list will include postings of key articles, reports, and news about podcating and other streaming media in general and in the the library context. Bottom Line: We are looking to build a community of individuals interested in the application of multimedia in the library environment. SUBSCRIBING TO THE LIST You can get the listserv in two ways. The first is through e-mail. To subscribe to the list send an e-mail to listserv@listserv.syr.edu with the entire message (no subject line): subscribe bibliocasting FirstName LastName We have also set up a podcast for the list...that's right, you can listen to the list. Each post is transformed from text-to-speech, and syndicated using RSS. The RSS feed (podcast feed) for the list is at: http://drew.syr.edu/iis4/pod/pod.xml _____________________________ "Virtual Dave" Lankes, Ph.D. Executive Director Information Institute of Syracuse School of Information Studies, Syracuse University http://www.DavidLankes.org From gerrymck at iastate.edu Tue Apr 5 13:10:11 2005 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:26 2005 Subject: MindShift: Disruptive Scholarship Revisited Message-ID: Apologies for Cross-Posting Colleagues/ If you have not yet made plans to attend the ACRL 12th National Conference in Minneapolis beginning later this week [ http://www.ala.org/acrlconftemplate1.html ], you still have time to do so! In addition to many opportunities to Listen-and-Learn from a variety of pre-conferences, presentations and poster sessions [ http://www.ala.org/ala/acrl/acrlevents/12thnatconf/acrlprogram/program.htm ], you could be among the select few to attend MySession in which I will elaborate on my wiki-based vision/version of Scholarly Communication known as Disruptive Scholarship [ http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/archive/0502/0003.html ] Sooooo** Please mark you ConferenceCalendar: Pair Two | Saturday, April 9, 4:30 - 5:45 p.m.; 200AB Quality Assurance in the Age of Author Self-Archiving. In the age of author self-archiving, there are forces, factors, and influences other than pending classical peer review that can assure the quality of scholarship before formal publication. Among these alternative approaches are institutional review, 'critical peer response', 'action learning', and Total Quality Scholarship. Gain an understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of conventional peer review process and develop an awareness of current and emerging alternative models to traditional peer review. Presenter(s): Gerry McKiernan, Iowa State University [ http://www.ala.org/ala/acrl/acrlevents/12thnatconf/acrlprogram/contributedpapers/contributedpapers.htm ] NOTE: The emphasis will be on EMERGING! BTW: If you are unable to attend the entire session, please don't hesistate to stop by at the end to offer to buy me a beer [:-) Be Prepared For A MIND SHIFT !!! /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Theoretical Librarian Iowa State University Ames IA 50011 gerrymck@iastate.edu http://theoretical-librarian.blogspot.com http://disruptivescholarship.blogspot.com From elizalex at umd.edu Tue Apr 5 16:06:59 2005 From: elizalex at umd.edu (Betsy Alexander) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:26 2005 Subject: Legal issues in virtual reference online! Message-ID: <007001c53a1b$06c24490$1f6c0880@56DZD51> The University of Maryland College of Information Studies is offering an online course in "Virtual Reference Legal Issues" from May 9-20, 2005. This interactive, web-based course is geared toward all librarians and will feature readings, message board discussions with peers, feedback from the instructor (Mary Minow, MLS, JD), and a framework for analyzing VR issues. You will learn how to: analyze copyright issues in the context of the VR service; find up-to-date resources on legal issues; determine which areas of law impact VR and when to contact a lawyer. You should plan to devote approximately five (5) hours to the course over the two-week period. Upon successful completion, .5 CEU will be awarded. The registration deadline for "VR Legal Issues" is April 25. To register online for "VR Legal Issues", click on Register VRLI For other ways to register and information on additional professional development courses, please visit http://www.clis.umd.edu/ce. ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From Louise.Alcorn at wdm-ia.com Tue Apr 5 16:37:12 2005 From: Louise.Alcorn at wdm-ia.com (Louise Alcorn) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:26 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Technology Plan Message-ID: I have participated in several Tech Plan committees, both for my library and for our parent City govt, and the one thing I learned that I try never to forget is that 'form should follow function'. By this I mean that you should figure out WHAT you want to do, FIRST, then figure out how the technology might follow and enhance that mission/plan/goal. It's easy to say 'we'll need to update three of our servers in the next year', but it's better if you can say 'these three servers will need to be updated to handle additional storage/traffic of X amount resulting from project Y". We found the plans were more likely to be approved and, more importantly, funded by the Powers when it came time. As to a template, we didn't have one (they always think they're reinventing the wheel when they do these!). However, make sure you give a 'snapshot' of the *current* situation, with usage information (X #of PC's for public use, X-thousand users per month, X logons per month, etc.). Then when you talk about growth (and the resulting technology needs this will produce), there's a better sense of 'scope'. Don't be afraid to put a 'wish list' on there. "Possible expansion projects" or the like. If you don't ask, you'll never get. Just be very clear on what your absolute needs will be, then give a vision of what *could* be done, and WHY. Be careful about making dream promises you can't fulfill, but make a point to shoot for larger, more complicated projects you think make sense for the organization. Best of luck! Louise =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Louise E. Alcorn -- Reference Technology Librarian West Des Moines Public Library 4000 Mills Civic Pkwy West Des Moines IA 50265 (515) 222-3573 louise.alcorn@wdm-ia.com http://www.wdm.lib.ia.us >>> "Timothy Daniels" 04/05/05 09:29AM >>> Greetings, Here at the Georgia State University Library we are in the early stages of developing a technology plan. Dose anyone have any advice or a template they would like to share? From jboeve at umuc.edu Tue Apr 5 16:23:14 2005 From: jboeve at umuc.edu (Jack Boeve) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:26 2005 Subject: Copyright Symposium Message-ID: The Center for Intellectual Property at the University of Maryland University College is interested in advertising this nonprofit, educational symposium for interested educators, administrators, attorneys and librarians. We would greatly appreciate your posting the message below to your listserv or promoting this opportunity within your networks. Thank you. _______________ [Please excuse the inevitable duplication of this notice.] ANNOUNCEMENT AND INVITATION Pirates, Thieves and Innocents: Perceptions of Copyright Infringement in the Digital Age http://www.umuc.edu/cip/symposium June 16-17, 2005 HOSTED by the Center for Intellectual Property and being held at the UMUC Inn and Conference Center in Adelphi, MD THEME: The 2005 CIP Symposium will explore the various ways in which individuals and organizations think and talk about copyright infringement in our digital age and what actions they take based upon those perceptions. The symposium will focus on issues relevant to the higher education community and the delivery of third-party copyrighted content. Facilitating our exploration, discussion, and reflection will be representatives from the academy, library, law, corporation, nonprofit organization, technology sector, and Capitol Hill. TOPICS to be addressed by speakers and panelists will include: -The Impact of Copyright Law and Policy on Academic Culture -Regulatory Copyright: How Will Universities be Affected? -P2P File Sharing: Pirates or Revolutionaries? -Culture and Copyright: A Creative Clash? -Copyright Infringement in the Digital Age: What Universities Need to Know -The Copyright Legislative Landscape -Responses to Copyright Infringement at University Campuses: Best Practices PARTICIPANTS will include: Clifford Lynch (Coalition for Networked Information); Jonathan Band (Morrison & Foerster LLP); Robert Brauneis (George Washington University Law School); Jon Baumgarten (Proskauer Rose LLP); Mark Luker (Educause); Patrick Ross (Progress & Freedom Foundation); Gigi Sohn (Public Knowledge); Siva Vaidhyanathan (New York University); Alec French (Office of Congressman Howard L. Berman). REGISTER early since space is limited. Early registration (before May 16, 2005) is $275. Regular registration is $350. Please visit the website for details and other affiliation discounts valued at $50. MORE INFORMATION/REGISTRATION available at http://www.umuc.edu/cip/symposium. Jack Boeve University of Maryland University College Center for Intellectual Property 240-582-2736 jboeve@umuc.edu From peter at serialssolutions.com Tue Apr 5 17:12:30 2005 From: peter at serialssolutions.com (Peter McCracken) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:26 2005 Subject: ACRL and Serials Solutions' special session Message-ID: If you are attending ACRL this year, I invite you to attend a special session, "Now and the Future: Complete Solutions for Today's Electronic Collections" on Saturday, April 9 at the Hyatt Regency. Steve McCracken, my brother and fellow Serials Solutions co-founder, will discuss our concerted efforts to deliver more value to you, and enhance local control of your services, while reducing your headaches. Steve will highlight and demonstrate the newest service enhancements surrounding Central Search, Article Linker, Full MARC Records, and A.M.S. He will also discuss the current development of Serials Solutions' electronic resource management system (ERMS). I hope that you will be able to attend this session and contribute to the future direction of Serials Solutions with your questions and ideas. Date: Saturday, April 9 Time: 1 - 2 pm Location: Hyatt Regency Room: Skyway Suite AB - 2nd Floor I also encourage you to stop by booth #409 and visit with our ACRL-attending staff. They are excited to demonstrate and provide information about the many free service enhancements added over the past year. In addition, they will be able to answer questions you may have regarding your current service, or any Serials Solutions service. On behalf of everyone at Serials Solutions, we hope to see you at ACRL. Best Regards, Peter McCracken, MLS Co-Founder and Director of Electronic Content Management From wiiat at kis-lab.com Tue Apr 5 21:11:30 2005 From: wiiat at kis-lab.com (Jia Hu) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:26 2005 Subject: WI'05: Deadline Extended to April 18 Message-ID: <200504060111.j361BU4E019553@webjunction.org> [Apologies if you receive this more than once] Dear Colleague, In response to many requests for an extension, we are pleased to extend the paper submission deadline for WI 2005 to ** April 18 **. Submission can be done online at: http://www.comp.hkbu.edu.hk/WI05/ http://www.hds.utc.fr/WI05/ We look forward to receiving your submissions soon. With best regards, Andrzej Skowron PC chair of WI-IAT'05 ##################################################################### IEEE/WIC/ACM WEB INTELLIGENCE 2005 FINAL CALL FOR PAPERS ##################################################################### 2005 IEEE/WIC/ACM International Conference on Web Intelligence (WI'05) September 19-22, 2005 Compiegne University of Technology, France http://www.comp.hkbu.edu.hk/WI05/ http://www.hds.utc.fr/WI05/ Sponsored By IEEE Computer Society Web Intelligence Consortium (WIC) Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) ********************************************************************** - Paper submission NEW due: April 18, 2005 - Submission websites: http://www.comp.hkbu.edu.hk/WI05/ http://www.hds.utc.fr/WI05/ - Electronic submissions are required in the form of PDF or PS files ********************************************************************** Web Intelligence (WI) has been recognized as a new direction for scientific research and development to explore the fundamental roles as well as practical impacts of Artificial Intelligence (AI) (e.g., knowledge representation, planning, knowledge discovery and data mining, intelligent agents, and social network intelligence) and advanced Information Technology (IT) (e.g., wireless networks, ubiquitous devices, social networks, and data/knowledge grids) on the next generation of Web-empowered products, systems, services, and activities. It is one of the most important as well as promising IT research fields in the era of Web and agent intelligence. The 2005 IEEE/WIC/ACM International Conference on Web Intelligence (WI'05) will be jointly held with the 2005 IEEE/WIC/ACM International Conference on Intelligent Agent Technology (IAT'05 http://www.comp.hkbu.edu.hk/IAT05/, http://www.hds.utc.fr/IAT05). The IEEE/WIC/ACM 2005 joint conferences are sponsored and organized by IEEE Computer Society Technical Committee on Computational Intelligence (TCCI) (http://www.cs.uvm.edu/~xwu/tcci/index.shtml), Web Intelligence Consortium (WIC) (http://wi-consortium.org), and ACM-SIGART (http://www.acm.org/sigart/). +++++++ Topics +++++++ The topics and areas include, but not limited to: WI Topics * World Wide Wisdom Web (W4) Distributed Resources Optimization Goal-Directed Services Support Information and Knowledge Markets Knowledge Community Formation and Support Meta-Knowledge Discovery and Representation New Social Interaction Paradigms Problem Solver Markup Language (PSML) Regularities and Laws of W4 Search of Best Means and Ends Service Self-Aggregation Social and Psychological Contexts Web Inference Engine * Social Networks and Social Intelligence Entertainment Knowledge Community Formation and Support Link Topology and Site Hierarchy Intelligent Wireless Web Social Networks Mining Theories of Small-World Web Ubiquitous Computing Ubiquitous Learning Systems Virtual and Web Communities Web-Based Cooperative Work Web Site Clustering * Knowledge Grids and Grid Intelligence Brokering and Scheduling Knowledge Resources and Services Discovery Middleware Architectures and Tools On-Demand Planning and Routing Semantic Grids * Web Mining and Farming Context Sensitive Web Mining E-Mail Classification Data Warehousing Learning User Profiles Multimedia Data Mining Mining Data Streams Text Mining Web Farming and Warehousing Web Content Mining Web Information Clustering Web Information Indexing Web Log and Usage Mining Web Page Clustering and Mining Web Site Classification * Semantics and Ontology Engineering Ontology-Based Information Extraction and Retrieval Ontology-Based Web Mining Web-Based Ontology Learning Semantic Web * Web Agents Agent Networks and Topologies Coordination Distributed Problem Solving Global Information Foraging Macroscopic Behavior Modeling Mobile Agents Remembrance Agents Resource Intermediary and Coordination Mechanisms Self-Organization and Reproduction Trust Models for Web Agents * Web Services Matchmaking Middleware-Based Ubiquitous Services Service-Oriented Computing Web Service Reconfiguration Web Service Workflow Composition Grid Services * Web Information Filtering and Retrieval Automatic Cataloging and Indexing Clustering-Based Recommender Systems Collaborative Filtering Digital Library Distributed Web Search Hybrid Recommendation Information Retrieval Criteria and Evaluations Proxy and Cache Techniques Search Engines and Meta-search Engines Specifications for Web Information Extraction Process Web Crawling Systems Web Information Categorization and Ranking Web Prediction and Prefetching * Intelligent Human-Web Interaction Adaptive Web Interfaces Context-Aware Computing Learning User Profiles Multimedia Representation Personalized Interfaces Personalized Web Sites Social and Psychological Issues Visualization of Information and Knowledge * Web Support Systems Information Retrieval Support Systems Web Site Navigation Support Systems Recommender Support Systems Soft Computing (including neural networks, fuzzy logic, evolutionary computation, rough sets, and granular computing) and Uncertainty Management for WI Web-Based Decision Support Systems * Intelligent e-Technology Collaborative Filtering and Recommendation Business Intelligence Decentralized Community Communication Techniques E-Business and E-Commerce E-Community E-Finance E-Government E-Learning E-Publishing E-Science E-Service Intelligent Enterprise Portals Web-Based Direct Marketing and CRM Web-Based EDI Web Security, Integrity, Privacy and Trust ++++++++++++++++ Important Dates ++++++++++++++++ Electronic submission of full papers: ** April 3, 2005 ** Notification of paper acceptance: June 9, 2005 Workshop and tutorial proposals: June 9, 2005 Camera-ready of accepted papers: July 4, 2005 Workshops/Tutorials: September 19, 2005 Conference: September 20-22, 2005 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On-Line Submissions and Publication ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ High-quality papers in all WI related areas are solicited. Papers exploring new directions or areas will receive a careful and supportive review. All submitted papers will be reviewed on the basis of technical quality, relevance, significance, and clarity. Note that WI'05 will accept ONLY on-line submissions, containing PDF (PostScript or MS-Word) versions. The conference proceedings will be published by the IEEE Computer Society Press. WI'05 also welcomes Industry Track and Demo submissions, Workshop and Tutorial proposals. More detailed instructions and the On-Line Submission Form can be found from the WI'05 homepages: http://www.comp.hkbu.edu.hk/WI05/ or http://www.hds.utc.fr/WI05. A selected number of WI'05 accepted papers will be expanded and revised for inclusion in Web Intelligence and Agent Systems: An International Journal (http://wi-consortium.org/journal.html) and in Annual Review of Intelligent Informatics (http://www.wi-consortium.org/annual.html) The best paper awards will be conferred on the authors of the best papers at the conference. ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Conference Organization ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Conference Chairs: Pierre Morizet, University of Technology of Compiegne, France Jiming Liu, Hong Kong Baptist University, Hong Kong Program Chair: Andrzej Skowron, Warsaw University, Poland Steering Committee Chair: Ning Zhong, Maebashi Institute of Technology, Japan WI-Track Program Co-chairs: Rakesh Agrawal, IBM Almaden Research Center, USA Mike Luck, University of Southampton, UK Takahira Yamaguchi, Shizuoka University, Japan IAT-Track Program Co-chairs: Jean-Paul Barthes, University of Technology of Compiegne, France Lakhmi Jain, University of South Australia, Australia Ron Sun, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, USA WI-Track Program Vice Chairs: Matthias Klusch, German Research Center for Artificial Intelligence, Germany Joost Kok, Leiden University, The Netherlands Steve Willmott, Universitat Politccnica de Catalunya, Spain Ubbo Visser, Universitat Bremen, Germany Mario Cannataro, University "Magna Grecia" of Catanzaro, Italy Nick Cercone, Dalhousie University, Canada W. Lewis Johnson, University of Southern California, USA Lina Zhou, University of Maryland, Baltimore County, USA Massimo Marchiori, MIT Lab for Computer Science, USA Sankar K. Pal, Indian Statistical Institute, India Toyoaki Nishida, Kyoto University, Japan Einoshin Suzuki, Yokohama National University, Japan Chengqi Zhang, University of Technology, Sydney, Australia IAT-Track Program Vice Chairs: Barbara Dunin-Keplicz, Warsaw University, Poland Amal El Fallah-Segrougchni, University of Paris 6, France Eugenio Oliveira, University of Porto, Portugl Marek Sergot, Imperial College, UK Jeffrey M. Bradshaw, UWF/Institute for Human and Machine Cognition, USA Katia Sycara, Carnegie Mellon University, USA Maria Gini, University of Minnesota, USA Churn-Jung Liau, Academia Sinica, Taiwan Zhongzhi Shi, Chinese Academy of Sciences, China Liz Sonenberg, The University of Melbourne, Australia Industry/Demo-Track Chairs: Jianchang Mao, Yahoo! Inc., USA Toshiharu Sugawara, NTT Communication Science Laboratories, Japan Workshop Chair: Pawan Lingras, Saint Mary's University, Canada Tutorial Chair: Rineke Verbrugge, University of Groningen, NL Publicity Chairs: Jim Peters, University of Manitoba, Canada James Wang, Clemson University, USA Organizing Chair: Francois Peccoud, University of Technology of Compiegne, France Local Arrangement Chairs: Marie-Helene Abel, University of Technology of Compiegne, France Claude Moulin, University of Technology of Compiegne, France *** Contact Information *** wi-iat05@maebashi-it.org From rsullivan at sals.edu Thu Apr 7 09:28:19 2005 From: rsullivan at sals.edu (Robert Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:30 2005 Subject: HTTP 301 Redirect Question Message-ID: <003401c53b75$ab8c53c0$2001040a@Colossus> I have previously used pages with meta refresh tags when I needed to redirect visitors, but impending major changes to our site caused me to look at doing it the "real" way. Our site is hosted on a Unix server running Apache. I have most of what I need to do working, and I can redirect from a discontinued directory to an error page: Redirect 301 /directoryname/ http://www.scpl.org/deadpage.html What does not work is the case where directoryname has subdirectories; the subdirectory (e.g., level 2) name gets appended to the end of the error page: http://www.scpl.org/deadpage.htmllevel2 I spent 45 minutes on the phone with the ISP's owner while he tried various combinations of regular expressions in my .htaccess file. There is probably something simple that we're both missing. Any advice would be appreciated. Bob Sullivan Schenectady County Public Library (NY) Schenectady Digital History Archive From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Thu Apr 7 10:07:05 2005 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:30 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTTP 301 Redirect Question In-Reply-To: <003401c53b75$ab8c53c0$2001040a@Colossus> References: <003401c53b75$ab8c53c0$2001040a@Colossus> Message-ID: <42553E89.8050207@ohiolink.edu> Robert Sullivan wrote: > I have previously used pages with meta refresh tags when I needed to > redirect visitors, but impending major changes to our site caused me to > look at doing it the "real" way. Our site is hosted on a Unix server > running Apache. > > I have most of what I need to do working, and I can redirect from a > discontinued directory to an error page: > > Redirect 301 /directoryname/ > http://www.scpl.org/deadpage.html > > What does not work is the case where directoryname has subdirectories; > the subdirectory (e.g., level 2) name gets appended to the end of the > error page: http://www.scpl.org/deadpage.htmllevel2 > > I spent 45 minutes on the phone with the ISP's owner while he tried > various combinations of regular expressions in my .htaccess file. There > is probably something simple that we're both missing. Any advice would > be appreciated. > Don't redirect to an error page. If there's a new location for the page, redirect to that. When you send a 301 status, it doesn't tell the user agent the page is dead, but that the page has a new location, which you're supplying. Browsers will update their bookmarks and search engines will update their indexes, all to point at the target of the Location header. You say a page has been discontinued - if deadpage.html is actually an explanation of why it was discontinued, I'd agree that a 301 redirect there makes sense. If it's actually a "Page not found" message, I think you want to handle things with a real 404 status, using this or another page as your 404 page. You may want to look at these options: RedirectMatch permanent ^/dead-directory/ http://www.scpl.org/why-it-is-gone.html RedirectMatch Permanent ^/dead-directory/(.*) http://www.scpl.org/find-new-page?old-page=$1 ErrorDocument 404 /explanatory-404-page.html ErrorDocument 404 /explanatory-script-that-uses-request_uri-variable-to-help-user -- Thomas Dowling tdowling@ohiolink.edu From ndobbing at uoguelph.ca Thu Apr 7 10:09:09 2005 From: ndobbing at uoguelph.ca (Nick Dobbing) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:30 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTTP 301 Redirect Question In-Reply-To: <003401c53b75$ab8c53c0$2001040a@Colossus> References: <003401c53b75$ab8c53c0$2001040a@Colossus> Message-ID: <42553F05.5010004@uoguelph.ca> Bob, instead of using a redirect directive, you might try errordocument instead. Using .htaccess in a folder (whether the root, or subordinate folders), you can set an errordocument directive to catch errors resulting from missing pages in the folder (without regular expressions), and redirect them to an error page. See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#errordocument Regards, Nick Dobbing University of Guelph Robert Sullivan wrote: >I have previously used pages with meta refresh tags when I needed to >redirect visitors, but impending major changes to our site caused me to >look at doing it the "real" way. Our site is hosted on a Unix server >running Apache. > >I have most of what I need to do working, and I can redirect from a >discontinued directory to an error page: > >Redirect 301 /directoryname/ >http://www.scpl.org/deadpage.html > >What does not work is the case where directoryname has subdirectories; >the subdirectory (e.g., level 2) name gets appended to the end of the >error page: http://www.scpl.org/deadpage.htmllevel2 > >I spent 45 minutes on the phone with the ISP's owner while he tried >various combinations of regular expressions in my .htaccess file. There >is probably something simple that we're both missing. Any advice would >be appreciated. > >Bob Sullivan >Schenectady County Public Library (NY) >Schenectady Digital History Archive > > > > From rsullivan at sals.edu Thu Apr 7 10:25:10 2005 From: rsullivan at sals.edu (Robert Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:30 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTTP 301 Redirect Question References: <003401c53b75$ab8c53c0$2001040a@Colossus> <42553E89.8050207@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <004301c53b7d$9b8fa3c0$2001040a@Colossus> > > I have most of what I need to do working, and I can redirect from a > > discontinued directory to an error page: > > > > Redirect 301 /directoryname/ > > http://www.scpl.org/deadpage.html > > > > What does not work is the case where directoryname has subdirectories; > > the subdirectory (e.g., level 2) name gets appended to the end of the > > error page: http://www.scpl.org/deadpage.htmllevel2 > > > Don't redirect to an error page. If there's a new location for the > page, redirect to that. When you send a 301 status, it doesn't tell the > user agent the page is dead, but that the page has a new location, which > you're supplying. Browsers will update their bookmarks and search > engines will update their indexes, all to point at the target of the > Location header. Yes, that's one of the reasons I wanted to do the redirect this way, so the indexes would be updated. I was concise at the expense of clarity. I have a number of pages and directories which are moving somewhere and those are handled in the manner you suggest. I also have a significant number of pages which are being discontinued entirely. I haven't had to deal with that before, and I was thinking in terms of redirecting visitors to an explanation page. > You say a page has been discontinued - if deadpage.html is actually an > explanation of why it was discontinued, I'd agree that a 301 redirect > there makes sense. If it's actually a "Page not found" message, I think > you want to handle things with a real 404 status, using this or another > page as your 404 page. So in terms of tying up loose ends and getting the dead pages out of the search engines, should I be doing a 301 or a 404? I would like to handle this neatly while not frustrating my visitors. Thanks for the suggestions; I will pass them on to my ISP. Bob Sullivan Schenectady County Public Library (NY) Schenectady Digital History Archive From kgs at bluehighways.com Thu Apr 7 11:03:38 2005 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:30 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: HTTP 301 Redirect Question In-Reply-To: <004301c53b7d$9b8fa3c0$2001040a@Colossus> Message-ID: <20050407150346.36877247F3@frontend3.messagingengine.com> > So in terms of tying up loose ends and getting the dead pages out of the > search engines, should I be doing a 301 or a 404? I would like to > handle this neatly while not frustrating my visitors. > > Thanks for the suggestions; I will pass them on to my ISP. Putting on my LII hat, the answer is easy: use a 301 to an explanation. Thank you, also, for knowing to use *301.* Geeze, we could vent about misapplied HTTP error codes all night and all day. But I digress. It really helps people using information to find a page that definitively tells them that the resource they are looking for no longer exists. That gives us concrete information. Otherwise we are going to waste time running around trying to find it, emailing webmasters, putting items on hold lists, etc. Give us a definitive status. Please! Karen G. Schneider Director, Librarians' Index to the Internet http://lii.org kgs@lii.org Websites you can trust From egh at ocf.berkeley.edu Thu Apr 7 13:13:34 2005 From: egh at ocf.berkeley.edu (Erik Hetzner) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:30 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] HTTP 301 Redirect Question In-Reply-To: <003401c53b75$ab8c53c0$2001040a@Colossus> References: <003401c53b75$ab8c53c0$2001040a@Colossus> Message-ID: <87fyy2jyrl.wl%egh@ocf.berkeley.edu> Dear Robert, RedirectMatch 301 ^/directoryname/.*$ http://www.scpl.org/deadpage.html Works on Apache 1.3. There may be a better solution. Best, Erik Hetzner At Thu, 7 Apr 2005 06:38:05 -0700 (PDT), "Robert Sullivan" wrote: > > I have previously used pages with meta refresh tags when I needed to > redirect visitors, but impending major changes to our site caused me to > look at doing it the "real" way. Our site is hosted on a Unix server > running Apache. > > I have most of what I need to do working, and I can redirect from a > discontinued directory to an error page: > > Redirect 301 /directoryname/ > http://www.scpl.org/deadpage.html > > What does not work is the case where directoryname has subdirectories; > the subdirectory (e.g., level 2) name gets appended to the end of the > error page: http://www.scpl.org/deadpage.htmllevel2 > > I spent 45 minutes on the phone with the ISP's owner while he tried > various combinations of regular expressions in my .htaccess file. There > is probably something simple that we're both missing. Any advice would > be appreciated. > > Bob Sullivan > Schenectady County Public Library (NY) > Schenectady Digital History Archive > > From gerrymck at iastate.edu Thu Apr 7 13:40:08 2005 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:30 2005 Subject: REMINDER: BlogWiki2005 Workshop Announcement Message-ID: Apologies for Cross-Posting Announcing BlogWiki2005 Workshop | May 19-20, 2005 | Coral Gables FL | WHAT: BlogWiki2005 Workshop WHEN: May 19-20, 2005 WHO: Gerry McKiernan, Science and Technology Librarian and Bibliographer, Iowa State University Library; Sabrina I. Pacifici, Founder, Editor, Publisher and Web Manager of LLRX.com and Author, beSpacific.com; and Marcus P. Zillman, Executive Director of the Virtual Private Library and VPL Blogosphere. WHERE: University of Miami, Wesley Foundation, Coral Gables, Florida. Note: Coral Gables is located in the Miami, Florida area. WHY: Blogs, Wikis, News Aggregators and RSS/Atom Feeds are emerging technologies that have and will continue to transform all fields of communication, scholarship, and library and other information services. The goals of BlogWiki2005 are to provide an introduction to these technologies and practical examples of their applications that libraries and other organizations can easily implement to their advantage. The BlogWiki2005 Workshop is a focused, comprehensive program presented by experienced specialists designed for the newbie as well as the seasoned veteran. Each workshop participant will receive a detailed manual containing copies of all workshop presentations as well as compilations of reliable and authoritative resources and references about blogs, bots, wikis, and RSS/Web feeds. TIME: May 19 2005 8:30am - 5:00pm May 20 2005 8:30am - 12:00pm WHERE: University of Miami Wesley Foundation Coral Gables, Florida COST: $195.00 Per Registrant through April 15, 2005 $249.00 Per Registrant April 16 - May 18, 2005 $295.00 Per Registrant at the Door May 19, 2005. The full program and schedule, as well as profiles of the presenters, are available at [ http://www.BlogWiki2005.com/ ] /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Associate Professor and Science and Technology Librarian and Bibliographer Iowa State University Library Ames IA 50011 gerrymck@iastate.edu From elutzow at csuniv.edu Thu Apr 7 15:59:41 2005 From: elutzow at csuniv.edu (Eileen Lutzow) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:30 2005 Subject: Job Posting: PASCAL, South Carolina Message-ID: I am posting this on behalf of PASCAL. Although I can answer general questions about PASCAL and these positions, please use the contact information below for any official communication or to actually apply for these positions. Eileen Lutzow Charleston Southern University Library ************************ PASCAL (The Partnership Among South Carolina Academic Libraries) is seeking to hire two program managers to play leadership roles in the development of its programs and services. Technical Programs Coordinator is responsible for implementing and managing a statewide universal borrowing system and information portal serving South Carolina academic libraries, and supporting the implementation and management of ILS systems for several academic institutions. The coordinator serves as liaison between libraries, the ILS and universal borrowing system vendor (Innovative Interfaces) and the host data center. The coordinator also supervises PASCAL's website and a development environment for web-based services including digital collection and portal projects. Academic Electronic Resources Coordinator will manage statewide and cooperative electronic resource licensing programs for academic institutions; negotiate license agreements; manage licensed products; make decisio ns regarding priorities for licensing; manages the gathering, analysis and dissemination of information concerning electronic resources; manage trials; prepare statistical reports; promote cooperative licensing, ser ve as principal liaison to PASCAL committees, other consortia and electronic information product vendors; coordinate training and support for electronic resources; and participate in policy making and planning. We seek individuals who possess demonstrated technical, managerial and communications proficiencies, as well as the capacity to organize and prioritize competing demands in order to play a leadership role in an eme rging statewide system. Our compensation range is negotiable and will be based on experience and capabilities. For online job descriptions and information visit: http://pascal.tcl.sc.edu/admin/positions.html PASCAL is a consortium of well over 50 public and private academic libraries dedicated to improving information resources, access and services at each member institution's library. PASCAL programs include electronic re source licensing, universal borrowing among its members; statewide access to historical, cultural and educational resources through collaboration and digitization; and professional development of its member librarian s. These projects have been characterized as the South Carolina Academic Virtual Library. More information on PASCAL may be found at this URL: http://pascal.tcl.sc.edu/ Please share this announcement widely. Thanks! Richard H. Moul PASCAL Executive Director (803) 777-1327 rmoul@gwm.sc.edu http://pascal.tcl.sc.edu _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ This transmission may contain information that is protected from disclosure by federal and/or state law, or is otherwise privileged or confidential. This communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and violations of applicable federal and/or state law may subject you to civil and/or criminal penalties. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail and delete all copies of this message and all attachments From kim_mlis at yahoo.ca Thu Apr 7 17:50:54 2005 From: kim_mlis at yahoo.ca (Amritha) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:30 2005 Subject: New Online Copyright Courses Message-ID: <20050407215054.60967.qmail@web53308.mail.yahoo.com> (Cross-posted; please excuse duplication.) April 2005 – Two new online copyright courses are being offered by Copyrightlaws.com 1 -- Digital Content Management course on the legal use of licensed content will be offered for the first time in early May. This course will address questions like: Who manages your licensed content? What are the rules? Can I republish licensed content? Or post it on our Web site? Can I store it, and forward it to others? Can I save digital content in our enterprise's database? 2 -- And for those of you who want to attend "summer school", there is a new mini online course on the Practical Aspects of International Copyright Law, beginning in early July. Learn how to protect your content internationally, avoid infringements in other countries, and obtain and give permissions for use of content outside your own country. Further information and registration is at http://www.acteva.com/go/copyright, http://copyrightlaws.com, or e-mail seminars@copyrightlaws.com Sincerely, Amritha amritha@copyrightlaws.com ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From roy.tennant at ucop.edu Thu Apr 7 21:04:53 2005 From: roy.tennant at ucop.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:30 2005 Subject: Fwd: Peter Scott's "retirement" Message-ID: <975dd4b74a86d606d1f2e2d12f90c251@ucop.edu> Forwarded by request of David Fox, I'll be posting my own message on this subject in a bit. Roy Begin forwarded message: > From: David Fox > Date: April 7, 2005 2:47:08 PM PDT > Subject: Peter Scott's "retirement" > ? > Dear colleagues... I regret to announce that Peter Scott is retiring > after 29 years of service to University of Saskatchewan Library! Peter > began his career at the UofS in 1976 as a member of the Cataloguing > Department, following which he was promoted to the position of Head of > the Order Department. In Feb 1992, Peter was reassiged to the Systems > Department, allowing him the scope to explore his growing interest in > a new fad called the Internet (a.k.a. the Information Superhighway). > > Peter is best known for his pioneering work in developing the popular > hypertext directories HyTelnet and WebCATS/LibDex. These extremely > useful tools have been followed by a steady stream of additional > information "products" from the fertile mind of Mr. Scott. For nearly > 15 years Peter has managed to stay in the forefront of Internet > knowledge and practice. His?great value to UofS Library has been as > the harbinger of technological trends. In recent years Peter has been > in great demand as a speaker on Blogging and RSS. > > Peter's scholarly output over the past 15 years has been prodigious. > He has given over 50 invited conference presentations internationally. > An entertaining speaker with a gift for making technical material > understandable to a non-technical audience, Peter has been a frequent > presenter at the Online Information, Internet Librarian, Internet > Librarian International, Access, NetSpeed, and Saskatchewan and > Manitoba Library Association conferences. He has also served on the > organizing committees for? some of these conferencess. Peter has also > published numerous articles about his developments, and his work has > been acknowledged in many information industry publications. > > Among other honours, Peter received the 1992 Meckler Internet Software > Award for HyTelnet. He was named to the editorial board of Internet > Research: Electronic Networking Applications and Policy for 1995. In > 2004 He was named to the Library Advisory Board for xrefer. > > Peter's extracurricular interests are also noteworthy. At various > times he has been a broadcaster on community radio, a blues singer and > harmonica player, and a Juno award winning songwriter. Delegates to > the Access 97 conference in Vancouver will remember Peter as the lead > singer of the house band The Dukes of URL. > > At the UofS Library Peter has been a tremendous resource person to > other staff. He is down to earth and approachable. He is a natural > educator and communicator, and enjoys nothing more than sharing his > expertise on a one-to-one level with "keeners" who are eager to learn > "new stuff". His colleagues in the UofS ITS Division will miss Peter's > laidback, often politically incorrect, sense of humour. > > Peter's "retirement" will be a great loss to the UofS, but for him > it's really just a change of focus. I'm sure he will continue to be > actively engaged in his alternate life as an Internet consultant and > Website? developer, and will continue to be much sought after as a > conference speaker and organizer. > > Peter's accomplishments and years of service will be recognized, along > with other retirees, at a special occasion at the UofS Faculty Club on > April 20. His last day of work will be April 29. If you'd like to send > Peter your best wishes he can be contacted at peter.scott@usask.ca. > For more on Peter's career and personal interests, visit his Website > at: http://homepage.usask.ca/~pas508/ > > > Regards.... David > > > David Fox > Head, Information Technology and Technical Services Divisions > University of Saskatchewan Library > > phone: (306)966-6031?? (ITS) > phone: (306)966-5949?? (TS) > fax: (306)966-6040 From sgiersch at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 7 22:20:56 2005 From: sgiersch at bellsouth.net (Sarah Giersch) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:30 2005 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?JCDL_2005_Announcements=3A_Program=2C_W?= =?windows-1252?Q?orkshop_CFP=92s=2C_Tutorials?= Message-ID: <4255EA88.6070909@bellsouth.net> The JCDL 2005 program is now available (http://www.jcdl2005.org/program.html). The program committee reviewed over 270 submissions, and accepted 32 full papers, 27 short papers, 3 panels, 8 tutorials, 5 workshops and over 60 posters and demonstrations. In support of the conference theme, sessions have been organized into three tracks: - Digital Libraries and Cyberinfrastructure - Users and Interaction - Tools and Techniques ----------------------------------------------------------- The JCDL 2005 workshops are currently seeking papers and participants. Many have submission deadlines in mid-April. Read the CFP?s (http://www.jcdl2005.org/workshops.html). ----------------------------------------------------------- The JCDL 2005 tutorials are currently seeking participants. Read the abstracts (http://www.jcdl2005.org/tutorials.html) ----------------------------------------------------------- Registration fees have been posted: (http://www.jcdl2005.org/registration.html) *International attendees*: For visa documentation support, please contact Ginger Ignatoff at Ignatoff@hq.acm.org ----------------------------------------------------------- Important Dates April 18, 2005: Advance registration opens online for the conference, workshops and tutorials; Notification of acceptance for the Doctoral Consortium May 9, 2005: Advance registration closes May 10, 2005: Late Registration fees begin; online reservation still open May 15, 2005: Camera-ready papers due for the Doctoral Consortium May 25, 2005: Last day to cancel and receive an 80% refund on registration; No refunds will be issued after this date. May 31, 2005: Online registration closes; Onsite registration available at the conference ----------------------------------------------------------- Joint Conference on Digital Libraries (JCDL) 2005 Digital Libraries: Cyberinfrastructure for Research and Education June 7-11, 2005 Denver, Colorado, USA http://www.jcdl2005.org/ Contact: info@jcdl2005.org From roy.tennant at ucop.edu Thu Apr 7 23:44:55 2005 From: roy.tennant at ucop.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:30 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Fwd: Peter Scott's "retirement" In-Reply-To: <975dd4b74a86d606d1f2e2d12f90c251@ucop.edu> References: <975dd4b74a86d606d1f2e2d12f90c251@ucop.edu> Message-ID: I first heard of Peter Scott when he created an elegant and compelling solution to a problem librarians had in the early days of the Internet. HyTelnet was a hypertext directory of Internet resources available via telnet that made it easy to discover the address and connection instructions to a burgeoning set of resources on this new and unsettled network. Peter's work in large measure presaged directory services such as Yahoo! that we now all take for granted. HyTelnet was also one of the first uses of hypertext on the Internet, long before the web or even gopher were to come on the scene. The fact that he did all of this from Saskatoon, Canada, a place that most people using his product had never heard of, was one of our first lessons on the power of the Internet. It didn't matter whether Peter was the head of the library or the janitor, whether he was male or female, rich or poor. On the Internet, no one knows you're a dog. Or, in Peter's case, a British transplant who writes blues songs and looks like Ernest Hemingway. As a rabid fan of HyTelnet, I quickly struck up a long-distance friendship with Peter that lasts to this day. The fact that we had been corresponding for many years before we finally met is another lesson of the Internet. Relationships can be established and maintained in many ways, not just in person. Peter's curiosity and ability to avidly pick up new technologies and understand how they can be applied to library (and indeed societal) issues is remarkable. The fact that he grew up in the age of the manual typewriter rather than the iPod makes it all the more amazing. I'm pleased that Peter has been able to find a way to quit his day job while he still has many years and lots of energy to continue to contribute to the profession in his inimitable way. I know he will find time to pursue many personal interests, but I'm not yet ready to give up all the many projects that he has created and nurtured over the years, some of them only minutes old even in Internet time. Congratulations Peter, and I'll see you on the net! Roy On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:09 PM, Roy Tennant wrote: > Forwarded by request of David Fox, I'll be posting my own message on > this subject in a bit. > Roy > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: David Fox >> Date: April 7, 2005 2:47:08 PM PDT >> Subject: Peter Scott's "retirement" >> ? >> Dear colleagues... I regret to announce that Peter Scott is retiring >> after 29 years of service to University of Saskatchewan Library! Peter >> began his career at the UofS in 1976 as a member of the Cataloguing >> Department, following which he was promoted to the position of Head of >> the Order Department. In Feb 1992, Peter was reassiged to the Systems >> Department, allowing him the scope to explore his growing interest in >> a new fad called the Internet (a.k.a. the Information Superhighway). >> >> Peter is best known for his pioneering work in developing the popular >> hypertext directories HyTelnet and WebCATS/LibDex. These extremely >> useful tools have been followed by a steady stream of additional >> information "products" from the fertile mind of Mr. Scott. For nearly >> 15 years Peter has managed to stay in the forefront of Internet >> knowledge and practice. His?great value to UofS Library has been as >> the harbinger of technological trends. In recent years Peter has been >> in great demand as a speaker on Blogging and RSS. >> >> Peter's scholarly output over the past 15 years has been prodigious. >> He has given over 50 invited conference presentations internationally. >> An entertaining speaker with a gift for making technical material >> understandable to a non-technical audience, Peter has been a frequent >> presenter at the Online Information, Internet Librarian, Internet >> Librarian International, Access, NetSpeed, and Saskatchewan and >> Manitoba Library Association conferences. He has also served on the >> organizing committees for? some of these conferencess. Peter has also >> published numerous articles about his developments, and his work has >> been acknowledged in many information industry publications. >> >> Among other honours, Peter received the 1992 Meckler Internet Software >> Award for HyTelnet. He was named to the editorial board of Internet >> Research: Electronic Networking Applications and Policy for 1995. In >> 2004 He was named to the Library Advisory Board for xrefer. >> >> Peter's extracurricular interests are also noteworthy. At various >> times he has been a broadcaster on community radio, a blues singer and >> harmonica player, and a Juno award winning songwriter. Delegates to >> the Access 97 conference in Vancouver will remember Peter as the lead >> singer of the house band The Dukes of URL. >> >> At the UofS Library Peter has been a tremendous resource person to >> other staff. He is down to earth and approachable. He is a natural >> educator and communicator, and enjoys nothing more than sharing his >> expertise on a one-to-one level with "keeners" who are eager to learn >> "new stuff". His colleagues in the UofS ITS Division will miss Peter's >> laidback, often politically incorrect, sense of humour. >> >> Peter's "retirement" will be a great loss to the UofS, but for him >> it's really just a change of focus. I'm sure he will continue to be >> actively engaged in his alternate life as an Internet consultant and >> Website? developer, and will continue to be much sought after as a >> conference speaker and organizer. >> >> Peter's accomplishments and years of service will be recognized, along >> with other retirees, at a special occasion at the UofS Faculty Club on >> April 20. His last day of work will be April 29. If you'd like to send >> Peter your best wishes he can be contacted at peter.scott@usask.ca. >> For more on Peter's career and personal interests, visit his Website >> at: http://homepage.usask.ca/~pas508/ >> >> >> Regards.... David >> >> >> David Fox >> Head, Information Technology and Technical Services Divisions >> University of Saskatchewan Library >> >> phone: (306)966-6031?? (ITS) >> phone: (306)966-5949?? (TS) >> fax: (306)966-6040 > > > > From lbell927 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 9 08:15:16 2005 From: lbell927 at yahoo.com (Lori Bell) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:33 2005 Subject: From Poetry of the Presidents to OEBF Ebook Conference Recap: Something for Everyone on the Web Message-ID: <20050409121516.91111.qmail@web52801.mail.yahoo.com> Greetings. Throughout the remainder of April there will be some great online programs that are open to all and free of charge. These programs are offered through a service called OPAL, which stands for Online Programming for All Libraries. Below is a list with brief descriptions of the upcoming programs. We'll be discussing such diverse topics as the love poems of George Washington, rocket science, young adult literature, the secret life of bees, poetry written by poets with physical challenges, how to make ebooks more accessible, genealogy, and more. The full OPAL schedule, including links into the online meeting room where each online program will be held, is at the following URL: http://www.opal-online.org/progschrono.htm If you have any questions, please contact Tom Peters (tpeters at tapinformation.com). Thanks. Tuesday, April 12, 2005 beginning at beginning at 2:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, 1:00 Central, Noon Mountain, 11:00 a.m. Pacific, and 6:00 p.m. GMT: "Feeling a little poetic this evening": The Poetry of U.S. Presidents Although poetry writing isn't an activity we normally associate with U.S. presidents, several of them turned to poetry as an outlet for their feelings and thoughts. Join us as we explore the love poems of George Washington, the religious verse of John Quincy Adams, the melancholy poems of Abraham Lincoln, and poetry written by other presidents. We will also look at several poems written about American presidents, especially poems memorializing Lincoln, and will find out what when wrong when Robert Frost attempted to read a poem at John F. Kennedy's inauguration. Hosted by Peter Armenti from the Library of Congress. Wednesday, April 13, 2005 beginning at 4:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, 3:00 Central, 2:00 Mountain, 1:00 Pacific, and 8:00 GMT: Young Adult Literature, Part II David Faucheux will continue his exploration of the genres within young adult literature. Includes an annotated bibliography based on the NLS publications Talking Book Topics and Braille Book Review from January-February 2002 to the present. If you think YA fiction is boring, simplistic, or too cute--think again! There is something for every taste--even adults may find something of interest--perhaps, to share with a child, grandchild, nephew or neice or young friend or as a shorter read and change of pace. Thursday, April 14, 2005 beginning at 11:30 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time, 10:30 a.m. Central, 9:30 Mountain, 8:30 Pacific, and 3:30 p.m. GMT: Live Discussion with Homer Hickam, author of Rocket Boys The NASA Glenn Research Center and the Cleveland Area Metropolitan Library System invite you to participate in a live 60 minute webcast discussion with Homer Hickam author of the #1 New York Times Bestseller Rocket Boys and inspiration for the hit movie October Sky. Rocket Boys is the true story of the author's life growing up in the mining town of Coalwood, West Virginia. In October 1957, Sputnik raced across the Appalachian sky, leaving in its wake 14-year old Homer’s dream to build rockets. With the help of his friends, a dedicated teacher, his mother, and others in his small, company town, Homer’s rockets would carry him, and his town, farther than he ever expected. Thursday, April 14, 2005 beginning at 1:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, noon Central, 11:00 a.m. Mountain, 10:00 a.m. Pacific, and 6:00 p.m. GMT: The Secret Life of Bees by Sue Monk Kidd. (RC 55533, narrated by Robin Miles) Join the Cleveland Public Library, Library for the Blind and Physically Handicapped to discuss this novel set in South Carolina in the 1960's. When 14-year-old Lily rescues Rosaleen, her African American housekeeper, from the hospital after she was beaten while trying to register to vote, the duo seek safety in a beekeeping operation run by three black sisters. Please note: This special two-hour program will be held in the Cleveland Public Library's online meeting room, which can be accessed at the following URL: http://www.tcconference.com/lib/?cleveland&pass. Thursday, April 14, 2005 beginning at 4:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, 3:00 Central, 2:00 Mountain, 1:00 Pacific, and 8:00 p.m. GMT: Beyond Limits: A Poetry Reading and Panel Discussion with Lucia Perillo, Stephen Kuusisto and Paul Guest Three poets will discuss their inspiration, adaptations, and assistive technology as poets with physical limitations or disabilities. Panelists will share the creative and technical process of writing as poets with such limitations as Multiple Sclerosis, blindness and quadriplegia. Lucia Perillo (http://www.luciaperillo.com/) is the author of three books of poetry and winner of several awards, including a MacArthur Foundation fellowship. Among other accomplishments, Stephen Kuusisto is the author of Only Bread Only Light (poems) and Planet of the Blind: A Memoir. He is an Assistant Professor at The Ohio State University (http://people.cohums.ohio-state.edu/kuusisto1/). Paul Guest is the author of The Resurrection of the Body and the Ruin of the World (poems) and co-editor of the online poetry journal Mot Juste (http://www.motjustepoetry.com/). Friday, April 15, 2005 beginning at Noon Eastern Daylight Time, 11:00 a.m. Central, 10:00 Mountain, 9:00 Pacific, and 4:00 p.m. GMT: Recap of the OeBF Conference on E-Books in Education On Thursday, April 14 in New York City the Open eBook Forum will host a one-day conference on E-Books in Education. The speakers will include Steve Potash from OverDrive, George Kerscher from the DAISY Consortium, Ron Zevy from TumbleBooks, and many others. During this following day online follow-up, Tom Peters will lead a discussion about the major ideas, issues, opportunities, and announcements coming out of this conference. Thursday, April 21, 2005 beginning at 3:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, 2:00 Central, 1:00 Mountain, Noon Pacific, and 7:00 p.m. GMT: African-American Genealogy Basics Researching African-American ancestors poses a unique set of problems for family historians. Jack Simpson, genealogy curator at the Newberry Library in Chicago, will give an overview of genealogy research techniques with a focus on African-American sources. The talk will cover basic genealogy sources, such as the U. S. census and vital records. It will also examine more advanced sources, such as the records of the Freedmen’s Bureau. Jack Simpson is the Curator of Local and Family History at the Newberry Library in Chicago. Before coming to the Newberry, he worked at The Bentley Historical Library at the University of Michigan and the Reuther Library at Wayne State University in Detroit. In addition to his work as a reference librarian, Jack teaches several seminars in genealogy at the Newberry Library. Wednesday, April 27, 2005 beginning at 2:00 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, 1:00 Central, Noon Mountain, 11:00 a.m. Pacific, and 6:00 p.m. GMT: "To light us to freedom, and glory again!": The Role of Civil War Poetry Poetry written during the Civil War era was used as a means of political and social mobilization. Using the Library of Congress's online collections, we will explore how Northern and Southern war poetry helped unify citizens, inspire troops, memorialize the dead, and overcome the anger and resentment of both sides in the aftermath of the war. Hosted by Peter Armenti from the Library of Congress. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From gerrymck at iastate.edu Mon Apr 11 11:59:16 2005 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:35 2005 Subject: Candidates for SandBox(sm): Wiki Applications and Uses Message-ID: Apologies for Duplication Candidates for _SandBox(sm): Wiki Applications and Uses_ Colleagues/ I am greatly interested in learning of Any and All Wiki applications and uses implemented in * Corporations * Education * Government * Libraries * Research Environments for inclusion in my recently- established registry titled _SandBox(sm)_ . _SandBox(sm)_ is located at [ http://www.public.iastate.edu/~CYBERSTACKS/SandBox.htm ] and is currently UnderConstruction. BTW: I Googled a number of months ago, and will do so again, but would prefer recommendations from my WorldWideWeb colleagues as well. In addition to the application and use of wikis in the institutions/organization noted, I am also interested in their application in/for novel venues (e.g., conferences, directories, etc.). I am also interested in learning of additional key/significant literature for potential inclusion in my WikiBibliography. [ http://www.public.iastate.edu/~CYBERSTACKS/WikiBib.htm ] P.S. Of course, in time, there will be a Wiki to allow uses to contribute, but it's not yet available [:-(] but StayTuned [:-)] Regards, /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Theoretical Librarian Iowa State University Ames IA 50011 gerrymck@iastate.edu http://theoretical-librarian.blogspot.com http://disruptivescholarship.blogspot.com From eswift at bham.lib.al.us Mon Apr 11 13:35:12 2005 From: eswift at bham.lib.al.us (Elizabeth Swift) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:35 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Request for input on proprietary Content Management Systems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <425AB550.5040801@bham.lib.al.us> Please post to the list. I am interested in this topic. Michael.Yunkin@ccmail.nevada.edu wrote: >Greetings all! > >We at UNLV are looking into migrating our website to a CMS in the near >future. Though we've spent some time looking at open source products, >we're just beginning to weigh our proprietary options. > >We'd like to hear from other academic libraries who are using proprieta= >ry >Web Content Management Systems. Although at this point we're just look= >ing >for names of potential vendors and products, any extra information >(including--and perhaps especially--editorial information), background,= > or >suggestions would also be appreciated. > >Please send your responses to me off-list. > >Thank you, > >Michael Yunkin >Web Content/Metadata Manager >UNLV Libraries >Las Vegas, NV >michael.yunkin@ccmail.nevada.edu > >**Cross-posted to LITA-L** >= > > > >********************************************************************* >Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, >this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there >to a plain text message. >********************************************************************* > > > -- -- Elizabeth E. Swift System Librarian Jefferson County Library Cooperative 2100 Park Place Birmingham, AL 35203-2794 eswift@bham.lib.al.us Tel. 205.226.3722 Fax 205.226.3729 http://www.jclc.org From nealej at nylink.suny.edu Mon Apr 11 16:44:33 2005 From: nealej at nylink.suny.edu (Neale, Jane) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:35 2005 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <50EB7C389CAD0746B69D8DD1CF976E67A86D33@cat.lib.nylink.suny.edu> This announcement has been posted to multiple lists. Please excuse any duplication. Dear List subscribers, Want to attend information technology workshops without ever leaving your library or office? Plan on attending an online workshop that is part of the Nylink Institute of Information Technology Fluency, a project that was funded originally by an IMLS grant. Online workshops, lead by experienced Nylink trainers, eliminate the need for you to travel and spend time out of the library. You can take them at your own pace within the 4 week period each is offered. These workshops are geared towards participants who want a workshop that focuses on providing introductory knowledge, skills and concepts of a topic. Each workshop includes weekly readings, exercises and assignments, and opportunity for asynchronous discussion with the instructor and other participants. Upcoming online workshops offered by Nylink are available as follows: April 18th, 2005 - May 13th, 2005 Introduction to Networking for Librarians http://nylink.suny.edu/training/network.htm User Interface Evaluation and Usability http://nylink.suny.edu/training/interface.htm Information Technology & Society http://nylink.suny.edu/training/info_soc.htm Web Design for Librarians http://nylink.suny.edu/training/webdes.htm Technology and Intellectual Property: Copyright, the Internet, and Libraries http://nylink.suny.edu/training/intelprop.htm Register for any of these online workshops on the Nylink web site at . We hope to see you online in Spring 2005! Regards, Jane C. Neale Information Technology Coordinator Nylink State University Plaza Albany, NY 12246 e-mail: nealej@nylink.suny.edu T (800) 342-3353 F (518) 432-4346 ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From morville at semanticstudios.com Mon Apr 11 19:33:13 2005 From: morville at semanticstudios.com (Peter Morville) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:35 2005 Subject: Z39.19 Draft Standard for Controlled Vocabularies Message-ID: <200504112333.j3BNXQ4E021875@webjunction.org> The new draft standard is available at http://www.niso.org/standards/balloting.html. See below for details. Cheers! Peter Morville President, Semantic Studios www.semanticstudios.com --- NISO Ballot Announcement: Z39.19-200X - Revised and Out-for-Ballot NISO Standard Z39.19, now titled Guidelines for the Construction, Format, and Management of Monolingual Controlled Vocabularies, has been revised and is available for ballot and review by all NISO Members. Balloting Period: April 11, 2005 to May 25, 2005 The revised draft standard and balloting instructions are at: http://www.niso.org/standards/balloting.html The standard has been expanded considerably and grown to 172 pages. In this revision of the Z39.19 standard: . More user-friendly language is incorporated and explanations of important concepts and principles are provided. . The standard takes into account changes in information technology, the various ways that users search or browse, and the many types of content they find. . The scope of the revised standard addresses the needs presented by a variety of information producing organizations and different types of content; examples throughout the document are relevant to business and industry. This revised standard is a collaboration among a number of NISO members and leading experts in the information field. The process used demonstrates a shift in NISO's standards development approach. The parameters of the revision were first defined at a pre-standards workshop NISO held in 1999. With the support of The H.W. Wilson Foundation, The Getty Grant Program, and the National Library of Medicine resources were provided to undertake the revision. The following persons were members of the development team that revised Z39.19: . Emily Fayen (MuseGlobal), Project Lead . Vivian Bliss (Microsoft Corporation) . Carol Brent (ProQuest Information and Learning) . David Clarke (Synapse Corporation) . John Dickert (U.S. Department of Defense, DTIC) . Lynn El-Hoshy (Library of Congress) . Patricia Harpring (The Getty Foundation) . Stephen Hearn (representing the American Library Association) . Marjorie Hlava (Access Innovations, Inc.) . Sabine Kuhn (Chemical Abstracts Service) . Pat Kuhr (The H.W. Wilson Company) . Paula McCoy (ProQuest Information and Learning) . Diane McKerlie (DMA Consulting) . Peter Morville (Semantic Studios) . Stuart Nelson (National Library of Medicine) . Allan Savage (National Library of Medicine) . Diane Vizine-Goetz (OCLC, Inc.) . Trish Yancey (Synapse Corporation) . Marcia Lei Zeng (representing the Special Libraries Association) Cynthia Hodgson, on NISO's editorial staff, worked closely with the revision group to see this project through to completion. NISO's thanks goes to this outstanding group for their time, talent, expertise, and dedication. Now, Voting Members, you are invited to review this standard. Please return your ballot by May 25. Thank You! Pat Harris ************************************ Pat Harris Executive Director NISO 4733 Bethesda Avenue, Suite 300 Bethesda, MD 20814 USA T: 301-654-2512 ** Direct line: 301-654-1474** Mobile: 202-258-3296 Fax: 301-654-1721 ** Email: pharris@niso.org www.niso.org From Shashi.Pinheiro at utsa.edu Wed Apr 13 14:41:01 2005 From: Shashi.Pinheiro at utsa.edu (Shashi Pinheiro) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Request for input on proprietary Content Management Message-ID: <9B8DAF654CF5B742A69035979975033F04EF19@opal1604.UTSARR.NET> Here at UTSA, the university has purchased a portal system (SCT Luminis). A content management system was included in the package deal. The CMS is SCT CMS system which is based on the Documentum CMS platform. SCT has build a web based administrative layer on top of the Documentum platform to make it more user friendlier then the out of the box Documentum system. SCT was chosen for our Portal system since we use their financial applications i.e. SCT Banner for fees, etc. We are at the initial stages of the implementation, but from my initial training on the CMS system, I'm sold on its benefits, not only for our public website, but also our nascent intranet. Shashi Pinheiro UTSA Library Systems Analyst 210 458 6133 (new) shashi.pinheiro@utsa.edu (new) http://www.lib.utsa.edu -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Swift Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 12:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Request for input on proprietary Content Management Please post to the list. I am interested in this topic. Michael.Yunkin@ccmail.nevada.edu wrote: >Greetings all! > >We at UNLV are looking into migrating our website to a CMS in the near >future. Though we've spent some time looking at open source products, >we're just beginning to weigh our proprietary options. > >We'd like to hear from other academic libraries who are using >proprieta= ry Web Content Management Systems. Although at this point >we're just look= ing >for names of potential vendors and products, any extra information >(including--and perhaps especially--editorial information), background,= > or >suggestions would also be appreciated. > >Please send your responses to me off-list. > >Thank you, > >Michael Yunkin >Web Content/Metadata Manager >UNLV Libraries >Las Vegas, NV >michael.yunkin@ccmail.nevada.edu > >**Cross-posted to LITA-L** >= > > > >********************************************************************* >Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, >this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to >a plain text message. >********************************************************************* > > > -- -- Elizabeth E. Swift System Librarian Jefferson County Library Cooperative 2100 Park Place Birmingham, AL 35203-2794 eswift@bham.lib.al.us Tel. 205.226.3722 Fax 205.226.3729 http://www.jclc.org From scahilla at baypath.edu Wed Apr 13 15:34:52 2005 From: scahilla at baypath.edu (Sandra Cahillane) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:38 2005 Subject: remote authentication and unix Message-ID: Hello all, We just purchased a lovely, new IBM server with AIX on it. Sadly, ezproxy no longer maintains software for this platform. We would very much like to be our own proxy server for remote authentication. I would love any and all ideas and suggestions (or workarounds for ezproxy) that people could suggest as possible solutions for remote authentication for a unix box for a non-programmer systems administrator. I am familiar with cgi-scripts. Would a cgi-script work for remote access? Primarily what I want is a seamless, one click authentication process for users that will direct them to the correct page (database listing or remote access logon page) depending on whether they are on-campus or off. It's good to know you're here when I need you! :) Thanks, Sandy Cahillane Systems and Reference Librarian Bay Path College Hatch Library 588 Longmeadow Street Longmeadow, MA 01106 (413) 567-4529 or (413) 565-1376 fax-(413) 567-8345 From cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca Wed Apr 13 16:26:46 2005 From: cpgray at library.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Gray) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] remote authentication and unix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have you tried asking about AIX support for EZProxy on the mailing list ? Don't give up on EZProxy until you've posted your problem there. What we used before EZProxy was Apache configured as forward proxy with a PAC file for our users to point their browsers at. That is a standard way of doing things and it doesn't require programming, just writing configuration files for Apache and the PAC files for browsers and it will certainly work on AIX. Chris "The brain is a wonderful organ. It starts working the moment you get up in the morning and does not stop until you get into the office." -Robert Frost On Wed, 13 Apr 2005, Sandra Cahillane wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > We just purchased a lovely, new IBM server with AIX on it. Sadly, ezproxy > no longer maintains software for this platform. We would very much like to > be our own proxy server for remote authentication. I would love any and > all ideas and suggestions (or workarounds for ezproxy) that people could > suggest as possible solutions for remote authentication for a unix box for > a non-programmer systems administrator. > > I am familiar with cgi-scripts. Would a cgi-script work for remote access? > Primarily what I want is a seamless, one click authentication process for > users that will direct them to the correct page (database listing or remote > access logon page) depending on whether they are on-campus or off. > > It's good to know you're here when I need you! :) > > Thanks, > > Sandy Cahillane > Systems and Reference Librarian > Bay Path College > Hatch Library > 588 Longmeadow Street > Longmeadow, MA 01106 > (413) 567-4529 or (413) 565-1376 > fax-(413) 567-8345 > > From Bret.Parker at ci.stockton.ca.us Wed Apr 13 16:38:00 2005 From: Bret.Parker at ci.stockton.ca.us (Bret Parker) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] remote authentication and unix Message-ID: Use EZ-proxy. There is not reason why you should be bound to AIX. You can run your EZproxy on a separate server very affordably. We run it on a desktop type PC running Linux. If load is an issue, there are ways to deal with this. We only direct requests to our EZproxy server when the request are in-coming from folks who are NOT in the Library. This greatly reduces the amount of traffic that the proxy server has to pay attention to. This is done with some scripting on the web server. That same scripting also makes it easy to update vendor URLs, if the product URL changes, for instance. Bret Parker Stockton-San Joaquin County Public Library 605 N. El Dorado St Stockton, CA 95202 Have you used your electronic library subscription today? Pick a topic and read! http://www.stockton.lib.ca.us/electronic/ >>> Sandra Cahillane 4/13/2005 12:32:52 PM >>> Hello all, We just purchased a lovely, new IBM server with AIX on it. Sadly, ezproxy no longer maintains software for this platform. We would very much like to be our own proxy server for remote authentication. I would love any and all ideas and suggestions (or workarounds for ezproxy) that people could suggest as possible solutions for remote authentication for a unix box for a non-programmer systems administrator. I am familiar with cgi-scripts. Would a cgi-script work for remote access? Primarily what I want is a seamless, one click authentication process for users that will direct them to the correct page (database listing or remote access logon page) depending on whether they are on-campus or off. It's good to know you're here when I need you! :) Thanks, Sandy Cahillane Systems and Reference Librarian Bay Path College Hatch Library 588 Longmeadow Street Longmeadow, MA 01106 (413) 567-4529 or (413) 565-1376 fax-(413) 567-8345 From jmf at liblime.com Wed Apr 13 18:27:49 2005 From: jmf at liblime.com (Joshua Ferraro) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:38 2005 Subject: Koha 2.2.2 is available for download Message-ID: <20050413222749.GA29781@gandalf.liblime.com> The new version of Koha (2.2.2) is available for download at: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/koha/koha-2.2.2.tar.gz?download Koha was the first open-source Integrated Library System (ILS). Developed initialy in New Zealand, in January of 2000, it is currently maintained by a team of volunteers from around the globe. Koha includes a full catalog, opac, circulation and acquisitions system. Koha 2.2 is more than 247,000 lines of code, developed by more than 30 developers (excluding translators). With the 2.2 version, Koha is now a mature product, with a lot of nice features. It's used in more than 50 libraries including academic, public, school, and religious, and has demonstrated good scalability (from 1 to 8 branches, and from 1,000 to 300,000 items). For more details on Koha 2.2.2 read the Release Notes at: http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=294626 English-language demos of Koha are available on the main koha.org site as well as at http://liblime.com/c/demos.html. -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE CEO, LIBLIME migration, training, maintenance, support jmf@liblime.com Koha ILS, Mambo Intranet, DiscrimiNet Filter 1(740)707-7654 TRY OUR FULL DEMOS AT http://liblime.com From dwuolu at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 19:25:17 2005 From: dwuolu at gmail.com (David Wuolu) Date: Wed May 18 15:15:38 2005 Subject: LexisNexis responds to request for direct linking... Message-ID: <8bd42b27050413162518bbe4bc@mail.gmail.com> I sent in my note to Diane Smith, Sr. Director of Editorial Products at LexisNexis and received a response. The response is below, and after that is the original letter I sent to her. Thank you to all of you who let me put your name on the letter. I have to believe it carried more weight than a single voice. If you didn't get a chance to be listed, you can reach her at diane.smith@lexisnexis.com and give her additional input. --Dave --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Mr. Wuolu, Thank you for your note. Rest assured that this is a very high priority within the academic group of LexisNexis and we are working on developing the capabilities that you request. Unfortunately, as is the case within many large operations, it takes time to both fund and implement such changes to a system. We are very aware that user expectations are everchanging and that we need to respond to these issues. Sincerely, Diane H. Smith Sr. Director, Editorial Products --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Wuolu, Dave [mailto:DWUOLU@CSBSJU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:43 PM To: diane.smith@lexisnexis.com Cc: scott.eller@lexisnexis.com; pam.rebarcak@lexisnexis.com Subject: LexisNexis support for direct linking to full-text articles Dear Ms. Smith, David Wuolu was informed by Scott Eller at the recent ACRL conference that you might be the person to whom this request should be directed. If this is not correct, please forward them to the appropriate person in LexisNexis management. As librarians who use Academic Universe and other Lexis-Nexis products on a regular basis, we find the lack of support for direct linking to articles increasingly bothersome. Libraries are spending a great deal of money on this product, and it lacks what has become a standard element of interworkability, namely, the ability to directly link to its full text content from a link resolver based upon OpenURL. Please develop the necessary s
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