From king at julip.fcgov.com Thu Jan 2 10:33:18 2003 From: king at julip.fcgov.com (Jacque King) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:38 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Turn off W32Time? In-Reply-To: <3E1070AD.C14A0A7D@uhls.lib.ny.us> Message-ID: Laurie, Thanks for posting this. I too am having the identical issue and do not want to use time synchronization in our NT domain. I've also found that users lose their connection to the internal network and have found w32 time errors in the event viewer. If you find a resolution to this, please share. Thanks so much! Jacque King Library Technical Support Specialist Fort Collins Public Library 201 Peterson Street Fort Collins, CO 80524 (970) 221-6716 king@julip.fcgov.com On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Laurie Louis wrote: > Does anyone know a way to turn off the windows time synchronization > service called W32Time on Windows 2000 workstations? Some of our Windows > 2000 workstations keep looking for this service on our NT domain > controller, then when they can't find the service, it drops the network > connection to the server. Then the workstation is unable to access the > internal network, most importantly, networked printers.We do not want to > activate W32Time on our NT server. Based on information in the event > viewer on individual workstations, I know how to clear/reset the W32Time > errors on the PC, but for some machines, it's a chronic issue, so I > would like to turn off or disable this service. Any input would be > appreciated. Thanks. > -- > Laurie Louis, A+, Network+ > Computer Support Specialist > > Albany Public Library > 161 Washington Avenue > Albany, N.Y. 12210 > > 518.427.4341 > 518.449.3386 (fax) > louisl@uhls.lib.ny.us > http://www.albanypubliclibrary.org/ > > > > From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Thu Jan 2 10:44:34 2003 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Turn off W32Time? References: Message-ID: <3E145E62.8ADB57A7@tln.lib.mi.us> On Windows 2000: Start - Settings - Control Panel Administrative Tools - Services Find " Windows Time" in the list of services. Stop the service and then set the "Startup type" to either Manual or Disabled. Good luck! Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI Jacque King wrote: > Laurie, > > Thanks for posting this. I too am having the identical issue and > do not want to use time synchronization in our NT domain. I've also > found that users lose their connection to the internal network and have > found w32 time errors in the event viewer. If you find a resolution to > this, please share. Thanks so much! > > Jacque King > Library Technical Support Specialist > Fort Collins Public Library > 201 Peterson Street > Fort Collins, CO 80524 > (970) 221-6716 > king@julip.fcgov.com > > On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Laurie Louis wrote: > > > Does anyone know a way to turn off the windows time synchronization > > service called W32Time on Windows 2000 workstations? Some of our Windows > > 2000 workstations keep looking for this service on our NT domain > > controller, then when they can't find the service, it drops the network > > connection to the server. Then the workstation is unable to access the > > internal network, most importantly, networked printers.We do not want to > > activate W32Time on our NT server. Based on information in the event > > viewer on individual workstations, I know how to clear/reset the W32Time > > errors on the PC, but for some machines, it's a chronic issue, so I > > would like to turn off or disable this service. Any input would be > > appreciated. Thanks. > > -- > > Laurie Louis, A+, Network+ > > Computer Support Specialist > > > > Albany Public Library > > 161 Washington Avenue > > Albany, N.Y. 12210 > > > > 518.427.4341 > > 518.449.3386 (fax) > > louisl@uhls.lib.ny.us > > http://www.albanypubliclibrary.org/ > > > > > > > > From king at julip.fcgov.com Thu Jan 2 10:44:31 2003 From: king at julip.fcgov.com (Jacque King) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Turn off W32Time? In-Reply-To: <3E1070AD.C14A0A7D@uhls.lib.ny.us> Message-ID: Laurie, I am trying this: get into services, stop the Windows Time service and then choose "disable" as the startup type. I'll let you know how it works. Jacque King Library Technical Support Specialist Fort Collins Public Library 201 Peterson Street Fort Collins, CO 80524 (970) 221-6716 king@julip.fcgov.com On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Laurie Louis wrote: > Does anyone know a way to turn off the windows time synchronization > service called W32Time on Windows 2000 workstations? Some of our Windows > 2000 workstations keep looking for this service on our NT domain > controller, then when they can't find the service, it drops the network > connection to the server. Then the workstation is unable to access the > internal network, most importantly, networked printers.We do not want to > activate W32Time on our NT server. Based on information in the event > viewer on individual workstations, I know how to clear/reset the W32Time > errors on the PC, but for some machines, it's a chronic issue, so I > would like to turn off or disable this service. Any input would be > appreciated. Thanks. > -- > Laurie Louis, A+, Network+ > Computer Support Specialist > > Albany Public Library > 161 Washington Avenue > Albany, N.Y. 12210 > > 518.427.4341 > 518.449.3386 (fax) > louisl@uhls.lib.ny.us > http://www.albanypubliclibrary.org/ > > > > From king at julip.fcgov.com Thu Jan 2 10:48:23 2003 From: king at julip.fcgov.com (Jacque King) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Turn off W32Time? In-Reply-To: <3E145E62.8ADB57A7@tln.lib.mi.us> Message-ID: Thanks Andrew :) Jacque King Library Technical Support Specialist Fort Collins Public Library 201 Peterson Street Fort Collins, CO 80524 (970) 221-6716 king@julip.fcgov.com On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Andrew Mutch wrote: > On Windows 2000: > > Start - Settings - Control Panel > > Administrative Tools - Services > > Find " Windows Time" in the list of services. > > Stop the service and then set the "Startup type" to either Manual or Disabled. > > Good luck! > > Andrew Mutch > Library Systems Technician > Waterford Township Public Library > Waterford, MI > > > Jacque King wrote: > > > Laurie, > > > > Thanks for posting this. I too am having the identical issue and > > do not want to use time synchronization in our NT domain. I've also > > found that users lose their connection to the internal network and have > > found w32 time errors in the event viewer. If you find a resolution to > > this, please share. Thanks so much! > > > > Jacque King > > Library Technical Support Specialist > > Fort Collins Public Library > > 201 Peterson Street > > Fort Collins, CO 80524 > > (970) 221-6716 > > king@julip.fcgov.com > > > > On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, Laurie Louis wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know a way to turn off the windows time synchronization > > > service called W32Time on Windows 2000 workstations? Some of our Windows > > > 2000 workstations keep looking for this service on our NT domain > > > controller, then when they can't find the service, it drops the network > > > connection to the server. Then the workstation is unable to access the > > > internal network, most importantly, networked printers.We do not want to > > > activate W32Time on our NT server. Based on information in the event > > > viewer on individual workstations, I know how to clear/reset the W32Time > > > errors on the PC, but for some machines, it's a chronic issue, so I > > > would like to turn off or disable this service. Any input would be > > > appreciated. Thanks. > > > -- > > > Laurie Louis, A+, Network+ > > > Computer Support Specialist > > > > > > Albany Public Library > > > 161 Washington Avenue > > > Albany, N.Y. 12210 > > > > > > 518.427.4341 > > > 518.449.3386 (fax) > > > louisl@uhls.lib.ny.us > > > http://www.albanypubliclibrary.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From mrag at loc.gov Thu Jan 2 11:12:27 2003 From: mrag at loc.gov (Michelle Rago) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: ICRA and rating your Web site Message-ID: Hello I would like to know if any of you have decided for or against rating your Web site according to the Internet Content Rating Association's (http://www.icra.org/) recommendations. Have you browsed your Web site while any filtering restrictions have been in place? If so, has your browsing experience been limited? I will summarize the responses. Thanks very much. Michelle Rago Office of Strategic Initiatives Library of Congress 101 Independence Ave SE Washington, DC 20540-1310 202-707-1634 From findallison at yahoo.com Thu Jan 2 11:49:09 2003 From: findallison at yahoo.com (Allison Diaz-Forte) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: Free Live/Virtual Reference Software Message-ID: <20030102164909.86052.qmail@web41405.mail.yahoo.com> Dear Colleagues, Some time ago I read an article on the topic of live reference software. It included a discussion about free software available for providing this service. Now I cannot remember where this article is located and I am hoping that others on the list would have read this article and would be able to either provide me with the bib. reference or point me to other relevant sources of information. All the best, Allison Diaz-Forte National Library and Information System Authority Republic of Trinidad and Tobago --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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CSN provides technical support for over 350 Windows NT/2000 workstations; over 25 Windows NT/2000, NetWare, CD-ROM, or Linux servers; and the main library's network (Gigabit Ethernet backbone with 100Base-TX segments). DILS provides technical support for the Libraries' database-driven Internet Web servers, intranet Web server, and other special-function Web servers (e.g., electronic reserves, ILLiad, and TDNet) as well as the Innovative Interfaces Millennium integrated library system, which serves four independent libraries on three UH System campuses. Assesses, plans, implements, maintains, and updates the Libraries' information technology infrastructure to meet its evolving needs. Develops and manages the Libraries' technical infrastructure budget. Supervises 2 librarian department heads and 8 exempt technical staff members. Represents the Libraries at the campus, university system, state, regional, and national levels about information technology matters. Works closely with the Assistant Dean for Digital Library Planning and Development, who facilitates new digital initiatives. Librarians hold academic ranks pursuant to the University of Houston Librarians' Governance document. They are expected to develop a record of service and professional involvement. Qualifications: Required: ALA-accredited Master's degree. Substantial relevant progressively responsible professional work experience, including significant evidence of successful managerial, supervisory, planning, and budget experience as an information technology department head, preferably in an academic library; strong technical background in Web, integrated library system, Windows NT/2000, and networking technologies; demonstrated ability to effectively envision, plan, implement, manage, and evaluate complex technical projects; substantial knowledge of information technology best practices, standards, issues, and trends relevant to research libraries; ability to cooperatively set and effectively attain goals in a fast-paced, constantly changing environment; and strong analytic, problem solving, communication, and negotiating skills. Strong interest in management and a well-developed service orientation. Preferred: Technical background in relational databases and database-driven Web sites. 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For more information please see: http://www1.swt.edu/catsweb/pe/PEWBIQSJB_0162.HTM From gerrymck at iastate.edu Thu Jan 2 15:05:05 2003 From: gerrymck at iastate.edu (Gerry Mckiernan) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: Visualized Subject Access for Open Access Archives Message-ID: _Visualized Subject Access for Open Access Archives_ With the completion of my latest mansucript on "New Age Navigation: Innovative E-Journal Interfaces" [soon to appear (I hope) in a library serial journal near you [:-)], I now turn my Eyes [:->]toward a Most Timely Topic: Subject Access to Open Access Archives At the 2nd Workshop on the Open Archives Initiative (OAI): Gaining Independence with E-prints Archives and OAI [http://library.cern.ch/Announcement.htm ] the topic of *Subject* access permeated several presentations [http://documents.cern.ch/AGE/current/fullAgenda.php?ida=a02333 ] and one break-out session on OAI Services, in particular [http://documents.cern.ch/cgi-bin/setlink?base=agenda&categ=a02333&id=a02333s9t13/text ] While I (and others) saw a role for traditional Abstracting and Indexes services in providing a Value Added Subject Overlay to: OAI Data Providers[http://www.openarchives.org/Register/BrowseSites.pl ] and/or OAI Service Providers [ http://www.openarchives.org/service/listproviders.html ] it has occured to me that it may be more appropriate to exploit the inherent potential of the digital environment to provide topic- and subject- based access to these respective sources through technologies that Visualize the Information, instead of the conventional A&I process (automated or otherwise which we had in mind. My forthcoming paper profiles several information visualization technologies and visual interfaces for e-journals, and include: 1) Kohohen Self-Organizing Maps (SOM) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/3540679219/qid=1041536283/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-9724355-6538317 [for examples, see Astrophysical Joournal [http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/ApJ/map.pl ] and/or Astronomy & Astrophysics [http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/A+A/map.pl ] 2) SPIRE(tm) of the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory [ http://www.pnl.gov/infoviz/spire/spire.html ], notably ThemeView(tm) 3) AquaBrowser [http://www.medialab.nl/engels/index.html ] for MediaLab For examples, see eLibraryHub (http://aqua.elibraryhub.com/) [Type 'Iowa' as a search term :-)] 4) Concept Space For examples see _D-Lib Magazine_ [http://www.dlib.org/dlib/october02/zhang/10zhang.html ] [ http://ella.slis.indiana.edu/~junzhang/dlib/IV1.html ] For a future paper (Yes, Yes, Yet another paper)[:-)], I would appreciate Any and All contributions, queries, comments, critiques, questions Cosmic Insights, revised earnings statements, etc. on the Matter of Visualized Subject Access to Open Access Archives. Current or planned efforts to visualize *any* resource that is Dublin Core coded [ http://dublincore.org/ ] is also of interest. NOTE: For background information on the Open Access Initiative see: [http://www.openarchives.org ] Regards, /Gerry Gerry McKiernan Open Librarian Iowa State University Ames IA 50011 gerrymck@iastate.edu "Happy New Year!" From tull at ucalgary.ca Thu Jan 2 16:18:25 2003 From: tull at ucalgary.ca (Eric Tull) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: Position Available at University of Calgary Message-ID: <3E14ACA1.EC674B07@ucalgary.ca> PUBLIC SERVICES SYSTEMS LIBRARIAN UNIVERSITY OF CALGARY INFORMATION RESOURCES Information Resources at the University of Calgary seeks applications for the position of Public Services Systems Librarian. This tenure-track faculty position reports to the Assistant Director, Information Technology Services and is responsible for coordinating the effective integration of information for the University of Calgary user community. Duties and Responsibilities Information Technology Services continually reviews new technologies and maintains awareness of emerging practices, evaluating and recommending technologies that improve the integrated approach to information. As part of the ITS team, the Public Services Systems Librarian works closely with the Assistant Director, the Library Systems Manager, the Manager of Digital Technology and the Manager of Networks and Desktop Support to deliver an integrated suite of online information services to faculty, staff and students at the University of Calgary. In that context, primary responsibilities are directed toward advocacy for the end user. The Public Services Systems Librarian acts as Information Resources Webmaster. Duties and responsibilities consist of implementing, and maintaining a content-rich, well-organized, Web-based gateway to Information Resources? varied collections and services. The incumbent would be expected to develop strategies for integrating information access for users and staff, establishing ongoing usability testing, developing or coordinating the content of many pages, providing training and support for content authors throughout Information Resources, and supervising the work of the Web Developer. The Public Services Systems Librarian handles the day-to-day management of the library?s collection of online databases and Internet resources. As a member of the Electronic Resources Group, the incumbent is expected to monitor and implement appropriate changes in database access, Web interface, and software in cooperation with technical and public services staff. A related responsibility is the development, implementation and maintenance of remote access to the electronic resources in Information Resources. This includes updating and running the software together with the setup and maintenance of the electronic products requiring remote access, as well as dealing with direct user requests for assistance. The incumbent would be responsible for evaluating the use of these resources through statistical reporting and performance measurement. The incumbent is expected to liaise with public services staff throughout Information Resources for the content, format and usability of Web-based applications, with Collections and Technical Services for setting up access to databases and e-journals, and with University Information Technologies when running programs affecting their areas. The incumbent may also be assigned a subject liaison assignment, and is expected to serve as part of the library reference team. As in any academic appointment a commitment to professional growth, scholarship and service is expected. Qualifications An ALA accredited MLS/MLIS or recognized equivalent. Experience with the development of web-based information services as well as an advanced knowledge of new and emerging digital library technologies and standards. Demonstrated knowledge of Web interface design principles, and Web site development as it applies to remote access, authentication issues, and database connectivity. Demonstrated supervisory, organizational, analytical, and project management experience required with excellent communication skills, interpersonal skills and a strong public service philosophy. Three to five years of relevant experience in an academic library preferred. Finalists invited for an interview must demonstrate communication skills and knowledge of electronic services through a presentation to library faculty, staff, and other members of the university community. Rank and Salary Commensurate with qualifications and experience. Expected salary range: $47,000 - $67,000 (currently under review). Generous benefits. Procedures Send letter of application, resume, and the names, phone numbers, email addresses of three professional references to: Yvonne Hinks Associate Director, Information Resources University of Calgary 2500 University Drive N.W. Calgary, AB, T2N 1N4 Phone (403)220-3767 Fax (403)282-1218 Email hinks@ucalgary.ca Deadline Date Wednesday, January 15, 2003 at 16:30 hours. The University of Calgary is a dynamic and growing research university with 16 faculties, 25,000 students and 1,200 faculty. Information Resources at the University of Calgary is unique in its organization as it combines the library, museums, archives, press, digitization and media into a single information unit which focuses on meeting the educational, and research needs of the institution. All qualified candidates are encouraged to apply; however, Canadians and permanent residents will be given priority. The University of Calgary respects, appreciates, and encourages diversity. From junus at mail.lib.msu.edu Thu Jan 2 16:23:22 2003 From: junus at mail.lib.msu.edu (Junus, Ranti) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Free Live/Virtual Reference Software Message-ID: <9ADF6F1B8F159448A143DC39FBA9F1EC0179DF88@mail.lib.msu.edu> Allison, I know one called RAKIM. You can find their page at http://rakim.sourceforge.net/ Hope this helps. ranti. -- Ranti Junus - Systems office 100 Main Library Michigan State University East Lansing, MI 48824, USA +1.517.353.8587 > -----Original Message----- > From: Allison Diaz-Forte [mailto:findallison@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:08 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Free Live/Virtual Reference Software > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > Some time ago I read an article on the topic of live > reference software. It included a discussion about free > software available for providing this service. Now I cannot > remember where this article is located and I am hoping that > others on the list would have read this article and would be > able to either provide me with the bib. reference or point me > to other relevant sources of information. > > All the best, > > Allison Diaz-Forte > National Library and Information System Authority > Republic of Trinidad and Tobago > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > > ********************************************************************* > Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, > this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there > to a plain text message. > ********************************************************************* > > From rboulton at linc.lib.il.us Mon Jan 6 11:02:30 2003 From: rboulton at linc.lib.il.us (Robin Boulton) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Library Hi-Tech News piece In-Reply-To: <518DDCE7-1F73-11D7-A5AA-000A27E16A20@ucop.edu> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030106095844.0243cc18@lincserver1.linc.lib.il.us> I frequently save Web4lib messages because there is good information that I know I'm likely to want some day soon. I have posted a number of questions myself and whether or not I got specific answers, I always got enthusiastic attempts to help. It's as importantly a tool to foster and maintain a collegial environment for technical people in libraries as it is a source of specific information. At 03:32 PM 1/3/2003 -0800, Roy Tennant wrote: >I've been invited to write a piece on Web4Lib for Library Hi-Tech News. >Of course I have my own viewpoint on Web4Lib, but I think it would be >good to include some quotes from some of you about what you find useful >about the discussion (or not). How has the Web4Lib community helped you >or made you a more effective web manager? Or has it kept you up at >night and made you feel inadequate? You can send your comments directly >to me if you wish, or to the discussion if you want all 3,200 of us to >know what you think. Thanks, >Roy From cirwin at wheelock.edu Mon Jan 6 14:10:14 2003 From: cirwin at wheelock.edu (Charlie Irwin) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece Message-ID: <200301061410.AA157417738@wheelockpo.wheelock.edu> Aside for the prompt and useful advice whenever I have a problem/question, I find the monitoring the conversations of others keeps me informed about possible problems and solutions that I haven't encountered yet. In fact, being forewarned, I often don't HAVE to encounter them. Also, in general, I find that the tone of people on this list seems to be "kinder and gentler" than on some lists. Lots of courtesy and respect for newbies, tyros and those who don't quite get it (but are trying) - not always common on web lists. Thanks to the "core group" for that. Charlie Irwin >At 03:32 PM 1/3/2003 -0800, Roy Tennant wrote: >>I've been invited to write a piece on Web4Lib for Library Hi-Tech News. >>Of course I have my own viewpoint on Web4Lib, but I think it would be >>good to include some quotes from some of you about what you find useful >>about the discussion (or not). How has the Web4Lib community helped you >>or made you a more effective web manager? Or has it kept you up at >>night and made you feel inadequate? You can send your comments directly >>to me if you wish, or to the discussion if you want all 3,200 of us to >>know what you think. Thanks, >>Roy > > > -- Charlie Irwin Reference & Instruction Librarian Wheelock College Library 132 Riverway Boston, MA 02215 Phone: 617-879-2222 Fax: 617-879-2408 E-mail: cirwin@wheelock.edu -- From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Mon Jan 6 14:26:04 2003 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: Library Hi-Tech News piece Message-ID: <53F453830C5F4B458002E3E863C2339B476E02@Mail0.csntprod.morrisville.edu> I believe that Web4Lib came out of an e-mail discussion on PACS-L between my self ,Roy Tennant and some others. I have been on the list since its first day. It has proved to be my most valuable resource in my web work and related activities. The archives are of great value. Quite often I need information on a topic that was discussed previously but one that I did not participate in (if that is possible - grin!). The responses on this list to questions and discussions are extremely helpful and usually right on target. If I had to pick just one list to subscribe to it would be Web4Lib. Bill Drew From plum at ulink.net Mon Jan 6 14:35:03 2003 From: plum at ulink.net (Nancy Sosna Bohm) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece In-Reply-To: <200301061410.AA157417738@wheelockpo.wheelock.edu> Message-ID: on 1/6/03 1:13 PM, Charlie Irwin at cirwin@wheelock.edu wrote: > ...Also, in general, I find that the tone of people on this list seems to be > "kinder and gentler" than on some lists. ... I suspect this is in part because Web4Lib has such a wide audience (as Roy points out below), and it is likely that within that audience are professionals with whom message posters may have to work with or work for in the future. >> At 03:32 PM 1/3/2003 -0800, Roy Tennant wrote: >>> I've been invited to write a piece on Web4Lib for Library Hi-Tech News. >>> ...You can send your comments directly >>> to me if you wish, or to the discussion if you want all 3,200 of us to >>> know what you think. Thanks, >>> Roy From bernies at uillinois.edu Mon Jan 6 15:00:48 2003 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece Message-ID: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB040193C499@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> Bill, According to the "History" section in the following item, you wished for "a list aimed at librarians involved in developing resources for the World Wide Web" in an April 1994 posting on the NEW-LIST list. http://www.ariadne.ac.uk/issue5/web4lib/ According to Roy, who wrote the above article, your note "acted as a catalyst that spurred us to pursue the possibility of hosting such a list at UC Berkeley." Bernie Sloan -----Original Message----- From: Drew, Bill [mailto:drewwe@MORRISVILLE.EDU] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece I believe that Web4Lib came out of an e-mail discussion on PACS-L between my self ,Roy Tennant and some others. I have been on the list since its first day. It has proved to be my most valuable resource in my web work and related activities. The archives are of great value. Quite often I need information on a topic that was discussed previously but one that I did not participate in (if that is possible - grin!). The responses on this list to questions and discussions are extremely helpful and usually right on target. If I had to pick just one list to subscribe to it would be Web4Lib. Bill Drew From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Mon Jan 6 15:03:39 2003 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece Message-ID: <53F453830C5F4B458002E3E863C2339B476E06@Mail0.csntprod.morrisville.edu> Wow! That is real ancient history now. The NEW-LIST bit the dust a while back. going on 9 years now for Web4Lib. Bill Drew From treed at clearwater-fl.com Mon Jan 6 15:27:29 2003 From: treed at clearwater-fl.com (Reed, Tracey) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Library Hi-Tech News piece Message-ID: <1A2A3BC35ECEF3409C9FBA7C7ADFB81D0DCFE7@lib2.clearwater-fl.com> As a mostly lurker, what I get out of Web4Lib is a sense of community and a place to turn for help when needed. Those who work in smaller libraries may not have the resources to turn to a colleague with a particular problem but know we can turn to Web4Lib and get help, support, encouragement, feedback when needed, and much more. As stated already, this list is somewhat more gentle and approachable than others that I'm on - and that has a lot to do with those core members! As Karen stated, we don't say thank you enough. -tracey ------------------------------------ *All expressed opinions are mine and do not reflect the opinions of the City of Clearwater or the Clearwater Public Library System.* If the eyes are the windows of the soul, then words are the doorbells of the mind. -Josh Wilson, Australian journalist, The Weekend Australian, 2002 -----Original Message----- From: Roy Tennant [mailto:roy.tennant@ucop.edu] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:32 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Library Hi-Tech News piece I've been invited to write a piece on Web4Lib for Library Hi-Tech News. Of course I have my own viewpoint on Web4Lib, but I think it would be good to include some quotes from some of you about what you find useful about the discussion (or not). How has the Web4Lib community helped you or made you a more effective web manager? Or has it kept you up at night and made you feel inadequate? You can send your comments directly to me if you wish, or to the discussion if you want all 3,200 of us to know what you think. Thanks, Roy From gprice at gwu.edu Mon Jan 6 15:32:26 2003 From: gprice at gwu.edu (gary) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: Three Articles of Possible Interest Message-ID: <1041885146.3e19e7da680c0@webmail.spamcop.net> Hello & Happy New Year from D.C. I posted three articles to The ResourceShelf today that I think are worthy of direct posting to the list. 1) "Elsevier's Vanishing Act" "To the dismay of scholars, the publishing giant quietly purges articles from its database." http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i18/18a02701.htm Btw, this article is also noted at LISNEWS.Com 2) Info Today has updated a 12/20 article about the divine Library Services shutodown. It includes info on a new Yahoo discussion group on the topic. Also, LJ with a blurb. It's all linked here: http://tinyurl.com/457i 3) A New Superintendent of Documents Begins Work Today http://tinyurl.com/457l -- Visit The ResourceShelf http://www.resourceshelf.com Gary D. Price, MLIS Librarian Gary Price Library Research and Internet Consulting gary@freepint.com From kgs at bluehighways.com Mon Jan 6 15:49:39 2003 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (Karen G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece In-Reply-To: <53F453830C5F4B458002E3E863C2339B476E06@Mail0.csntprod.morrisville.edu> Message-ID: <004001c2b5c5$221c4ce0$0200a8c0@TAWANDA> Hah, Web4Lib is practically a baby, compared to PUBLIB, founded in December, 1992, or AUTOCAT, December 1990! ---------------------------------------------- Karen G. Schneider kgs@lii.org http://lii.org Director, Librarians' Index to the Internet lii.org New This Week: http://lii.org/ntw lii.org: Information You Can Trust! "A ship in port is safe, but that is not what ships are for." -- Grace Hopper ---------------------------------------------- From carlos at csus.edu Mon Jan 6 15:52:33 2003 From: carlos at csus.edu (Carlos Rodriguez) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: Position Announcement - Digital Information Services Librarian Message-ID: <4EAAE4E8A820E54EA5111F74BDCED00DD50117@library1b.lib.csus.edu> Apologies for cross-postings. Please share widely. --------------------------------------------------- POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT Digital Information Services Librarian California State University, Sacramento CSUS seeks a librarian to fill a new position to provide leadership in the development, design and planning for the Library's web-based services and digital collections. Working under the general direction of the Library's Director of Library Information Systems, this individual will serve as a liaison to library departments about emerging digital information needs, explore and introduce innovative services such as web-based virtual reference and assist in the creation of digital collections and preservation projects. This person will be responsible for the planning and implementation of digital initiatives, including digital publishing and web-based communication services. They will manage technical issues related to licensed electronic resources, software and support systems, and supervise the development of project-related web sites. They will take the lead in working with instructional and Library faculty and staff to identify digitization projects that improve access to library materials and other resources. MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: MLS from an ALA accredited institution or an equivalent degree; knowledge of current and emerging technologies in digital and web-based library services; demonstrated proficiency in web page development and in the use of web-authoring tools and HTML; familiarity with script languages such as PHP, ASP and JavaScript; knowledge of MARC and developing metadata standards such as XML, and Dublin Core; ability to plan, initiate, and implement effective programs, projects and services; excellent oral and written communication skills-including public presentations; excellent interpersonal and team collaboration skills and the ability to work with faculty, staff, and students in a culturally diverse environment. PREFERRED QUALIFICATIONS: experience with XML and emerging metadata standards; experience in planning or creating digital library collections; demonstrated experience with relational database applications such as Microsoft SQL Server and Access and their use in the creation of dynamic web pages; working knowledge of LINUX, Apache and MS IIS Web Server software; demonstrated leadership and organizational skills, and project management experience; evidence of participation in scholarly activities and professional organizations; successful grant-writing experience. ANTICIPATED STARTING DATE: May 1, 2003. APPOINTMENT: This is a probationary, twelve-month, tenure-track, position at the Senior Assistant rank, salary range $50,100-$63,300 or Associate Librarian rank, salary range $57,612-$80,136 based on background and level of experience. Librarians have full faculty status and excellent benefits. Library faculty must demonstrate professional competence, scholarly or creative achievement, and service to the University and the community in order to meet university requirements for tenure and promotion. APPLICATION PROCEDURES: Applications received by February 3, 2003 will receive first consideration. Position open until filled. Send a cover letter describing interest and qualifications, a complete resume and the name, address, phone number and e-mail of four professional references to Terry Webb, Dean and Director of the Library, California State University, Sacramento, Library, 2000 State University Drive East, Sacramento, CA, 95819-6039. Applicants invited for interview will be required to submit official transcripts. Vacancy announcement and position description available electronically: request from lmjones@csus.edu . CSUS is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity employer. ************************************************** J. Carlos Rodriguez Director, Library Information Systems California State University, Sacramento 6000 J Street Sacramento, California 95819-6039 916-278-5659 (office) - 916-278-3891(fax) carlos@csus.edu From bernies at uillinois.edu Mon Jan 6 15:59:05 2003 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece Message-ID: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB040193C4A1@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> Or PACS-L (June 1989)... -----Original Message----- From: Karen G. Schneider [mailto:kgs@bluehighways.com] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 2:56 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece Hah, Web4Lib is practically a baby, compared to PUBLIB, founded in December, 1992, or AUTOCAT, December 1990! ---------------------------------------------- Karen G. Schneider kgs@lii.org http://lii.org Director, Librarians' Index to the Internet lii.org New This Week: http://lii.org/ntw lii.org: Information You Can Trust! "A ship in port is safe, but that is not what ships are for." -- Grace Hopper ---------------------------------------------- From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Mon Jan 6 16:09:32 2003 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece In-Reply-To: <004001c2b5c5$221c4ce0$0200a8c0@TAWANDA> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030106160147.02da6c10@ohiolink.edu> At 03:56 PM 1/6/2003, Karen G. Schneider wrote: >Hah, Web4Lib is practically a baby, compared to PUBLIB, founded in >December, 1992, or AUTOCAT, December 1990! But Web4Lib is a conceptual descendant of Go4Lib, which dates back to the early 1990s, and (IMO) Web4Lib continued the original themes of PACS-L from the late '80s better than PACS-L itself. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From bernies at uillinois.edu Mon Jan 6 16:42:55 2003 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece Message-ID: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB040193C4A4@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> Yes, Web4Lib did steal some of PACS-L's thunder. See the following excerpt from Walt Crawford's " Talking About Public Access: PACS-L's First Decade." (Full article available at: http://home.att.net/~wcc.libmedx/pacsl.htm) ----------------------------------------------------------- Diffusion: Other Lists, Other Methods Bernie Sloan suggests that one reason for the decline of PACS-L was "the retention of fairly tight editorial policies that may have worked well when PACS-L was the only game in town, but didn't work quite so well given the availability of other (unmoderated) lists"-but he also thinks that PACS-L's decline had much to do with "the appearance of many other library-related lists (drawing away PACS-L traffic)." Nancy Buchanan agrees that the most important factor in the decline of PACS-L as a topical forum was "the proliferation of other, more specific lists." There were many other electronic fora available by 1999: hundreds (if not thousands) of library-related lists. To some extent, that explosion of lists diffused the role of PACS-L-but as the largest of all library lists, it continued to be a prime venue for the kind of messages that don't invite discussion. Jim Morgan (Indiana University Purdue) notes: "A lot of the lively discussion on PACS-L migrated to other lists. I know when CDROMLAN formed a lot of the important technical discussion migrated there, and when WEB4LIB started up it instantly attracted most of the lively discussion on all topics." Bill Drew comments: "The same hardcore characters show up in lots of the lists. I see several people from PACS-L and WEB4LIB on the new EZProxy list, occasionally on COLLIB-L and even that relatively slow list SYSLIB-L." -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Dowling [mailto:tdowling@ohiolink.edu] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece At 03:56 PM 1/6/2003, Karen G. Schneider wrote: >Hah, Web4Lib is practically a baby, compared to PUBLIB, founded in >December, 1992, or AUTOCAT, December 1990! But Web4Lib is a conceptual descendant of Go4Lib, which dates back to the early 1990s, and (IMO) Web4Lib continued the original themes of PACS-L from the late '80s better than PACS-L itself. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From kgs at bluehighways.com Mon Jan 6 17:17:31 2003 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (Karen G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030106160147.02da6c10@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <008901c2b5d1$680510f0$0200a8c0@TAWANDA> :But Web4Lib is a conceptual descendant of Go4Lib, which dates back to the Oh, well, PUBLIB is a conceptual descendant of the semi-annual Small and Medium Libraries Dinner at ALA, which has been around for a while, and the informal ask-five-librarians network that was first developed in Alexandria. ;-) "Jane, do you put the scrolls in the pigeonhole flap down or up?" "Usually down, Robert, so the bird poop doesn't get in. I had a question for you: have you thought of fireproofing your branch in case of terrorist attacks or invasion by warriors?" "No, could that really happen?" o.k. major thread drift here... ---------------------------------------------- Karen G. Schneider kgs@lii.org http://lii.org Director, Librarians' Index to the Internet lii.org New This Week: http://lii.org/ntw lii.org: Information You Can Trust! "A ship in port is safe, but that is not what ships are for." -- Grace Hopper ---------------------------------------------- From lyceum at arl.org Mon Jan 6 18:39:30 2003 From: lyceum at arl.org (ARL/OLMS Online Lyceum) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: Library Conflict Management Online Lyceum Message-ID: <3E1A13B2.4F08F6E2@arl.org> Library Conflict Management ARL/OLMS Online Lyceum Course February 3-21, 2003 The Association of Research Libraries is pleased to offer its newest Online Lyceum course, Library Conflict Management. Based directly on participants' feedback gathered from course evaluation forms, this course is now being offered over a three-week period with a renewed focus on Web accessibility standards and incorporates a higher level of facilitator feedback through new activities and assignments. This topic has been specifically requested by past Lyceum participants, and has been created in recognition that having a sense of how one responds to conflict can make it easier to manage in the library. The course will teach participants an understanding of conflict dynamics so that they may select and apply conflict management tools to constructively respond to workplace differences and disputes. In this course you will: * Learn to define conflict management. * Recognize why conflict management skills are important and gain an understanding of conflict dynamics. * Learn how to analyze conflict and discover hidden interests/issues that can prevent individuals and groups from effectively strategizing around conflict. * Become familiar with conflict management tools and how to apply them. This Online Lyceum course will incorporate elements of both synchronous (real-time) and asynchronous interaction with course facilitators and a global peer network of up to 30 learners via a course bulletin board, chat rooms, and regular e-mail. Target Audience This course will benefit anyone who must interact with others in their work processes or decisions, including team members, managers, departmental groups, library professionals who interact with patrons, etc. Instructors * Deborah Turner, Head of Access Services, University of California-Santa Cruz, and ARL/OLMS Adjunct Faculty * Melanie Hawks, ARL/OLMS Program Officer for Training Technical Requirements * Netscape Navigator 4.x or newer; or Internet Explorer 4.x or newer; * Windows 95/98/NT 4.0 or newer; or Macintosh OS 7.x or newer, in order to properly support Java/Java Script; and * RealPlayer 7.x or newer (including the new RealOne Player) in order to run multimedia. Cost $300 for ARL members $350 for nonmembers Registration Deadline: January 31, 2002 Please note: All online workshops are capped at 30 participants. For detailed course information, please visit . If you have any questions, please contact the ARL/OLMS Online Lyceum at or by phone: 202-296-8656. -- Karen A. Wetzel Program Officer for Distance Learning Association of Research Libraries 21 Dupont Circle, Suite 800 Washington, DC 20036 Tel.: 202-296-8656 Fax: 202-872-0884 karen@arl.org From drweb at earthlink.net Mon Jan 6 20:22:39 2003 From: drweb at earthlink.net (Michael McCulley) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:39 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Library Hi-Tech News piece In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.2.20030106160147.02da6c10@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <001501c2b5eb$44d2c180$f35d3841@best.com> Kudos to Roy and all for the list. It's been a wonderful place all these years. Sometimes, I wish it were TECH4LIB, so we could more widely explore all technologies which impact today's libraires (without breaking boundary lines set by the admins), though I admit wireless has a fine home here with Bill's work and many able contributions. I do wonder sometimes where the people working in automated systems, networking, systems admin in libraries, devices, PDAs, tables, etc. would work together if not here. I haven't read the group guidelines lately, but maybe the "Web" part has grown by default to this larger universe. Best, Michael P. Michael McCulley aka DrWeb mailto:drweb@earthlink.net San Diego, CA Quote of the Moment: Do not fear death so much but rather the inadequate life. - Bertolt Brecht From kirwin at wittenberg.edu Wed Jan 8 09:23:37 2003 From: kirwin at wittenberg.edu (Kenneth R. Irwin) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:40 2005 Subject: SFX and WilsonWeb Message-ID: <5.1.1.5.2.20030108091703.01a29e40@imap.wittenberg.edu> Hi folks, Is anyone using the SFX capabilities of the new WilsonWeb interface? As nearly as I can tell, the *outgoing* SFX functionality (from WilsonWeb to content from other vendors) is really lame: it seems to link only on the database level and not the article level; and unless you host your own SFX server, you don't have much control over what databases you link to. (It's weird and complicated; I'll not try to explain it here.) If you have had a different experience (able to link on the article level, or able to tailor the outgoing links to databases you have locally), I'd really like to hear about it. I'd like to believe that no one would have implemented a system as bad as this one seems to me. I hope it's because I'm over-looking something. Also, is anyone using their local openURL-product-of-choice to link *to* WilsonWeb fulltext? I'd like to hear about that too. Thanks, Ken Ken Irwin kirwin@wittenberg.edu Reference/Electronic Resources Librarian (937) 327-7594 Thomas Library, Wittenberg University From cirwin at wheelock.edu Wed Jan 8 10:20:13 2003 From: cirwin at wheelock.edu (Charlie Irwin) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] SFX and WilsonWeb Message-ID: <200301081020.AA71827790@wheelockpo.wheelock.edu> Frankly, our experience is that the new interface is lame. We have been advising patrons NOT to use WilsonWeb unless absolutely necessary. (As an education school, we DO need access to Education Abstracts.) Any insights into how to work around the bugs would be appreciated. Charlie Irwin ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Kenneth R. Irwin" Reply-To: kirwin@wittenberg.edu Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 06:29:14 -0800 (PST) >Hi folks, > >Is anyone using the SFX capabilities of the new WilsonWeb interface? > >As nearly as I can tell, the *outgoing* SFX functionality (from WilsonWeb >to content from other vendors) is really lame: it seems to link only on the >database level and not the article level; and unless you host your own SFX >server, you don't have much control over what databases you link to. (It's >weird and complicated; I'll not try to explain it here.) > >If you have had a different experience (able to link on the article level, >or able to tailor the outgoing links to databases you have locally), I'd >really like to hear about it. I'd like to believe that no one would have >implemented a system as bad as this one seems to me. I hope it's because >I'm over-looking something. > >Also, is anyone using their local openURL-product-of-choice to link *to* >WilsonWeb fulltext? I'd like to hear about that too. > >Thanks, >Ken > >Ken Irwin kirwin@wittenberg.edu >Reference/Electronic Resources Librarian (937) 327-7594 >Thomas Library, Wittenberg University > > > -- Charlie Irwin Reference & Instruction Librarian Wheelock College Library 132 Riverway Boston, MA 02215 Phone: 617-879-2222 Fax: 617-879-2408 E-mail: cirwin@wheelock.edu -- From PoulinMW at lemoyne.edu Wed Jan 8 10:52:52 2003 From: PoulinMW at lemoyne.edu (Mike Poulin) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] SFX and WilsonWeb Message-ID: Unfortunately, I think it is as bad as it looks.=20 =20 It looks like they have implemented their own SFX type server with no = customization available =97 totally misunderstanding that it has no value = unless it can be cutsomized to the local library's databases. =20 We were in the process of subscribing to one of their databases when we = saw that and some other issues in the new interface (such as the link to = check library holdings is marked - Library Owns - and they mix legend = icons with limit icons). The net result was we cancelled the subscription = until they get their act together. =20 My impression has been that they (management at Wilson) neither understand = technology nor interface design and are not responsive to customer input. =20 Mike =20 --=20 /************************************************************/ Michael Poulin Librarian for the Sciences and Electronic Resources Noreen Reale Falcone Library Le Moyne College 1429 Salt Springs Road Syracuse, NY 13214 =20 phone: 315-445-4332 fax: 315-445-4642 email: poulinmw@mail.lemoyne.edu /************************************************************/ =20 =20 ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From roy.tennant at ucop.edu Wed Jan 8 11:08:29 2003 From: roy.tennant at ucop.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:40 2005 Subject: New browser for the Mac Message-ID: <6D537BA5-2323-11D7-87B3-000A27E16A20@ucop.edu> The Mac users among us ("the few, the proud") may be interested to know about the web browser announced by Apple yesterday at MacWorld. Called "Safari", it is only for OSX users (10.2 is required, but 10.2.3 will provide the best performance). I've only just recently downloaded and installed it, but so far their claims of snappy performance appear to be true. It is quite fast, seems to display most pages I've so far visited quite well, and even helped me snag a bug in my code that Explorer mistakenly forgave me for. So, although it is still only a "public beta", my advice to OSX 10.2 users is to run, don't walk to http://www.apple.com/safari/ and get it. It's at least worth a solid review, and the price is right (free). Roy From babbot at lsuhsc.edu Wed Jan 8 11:31:47 2003 From: babbot at lsuhsc.edu (Abbott, Bruce) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] SFX and WilsonWeb Message-ID: <250A0A8D766CD311BB15009027B6FABB0201E9C1@lsuhsc-hermes.lsuhsc.edu> I agree that with the other posters who point out the shortcomings of the linking. My biggest gripe, however, is that the administrator has to choose from selections of online providers, and, at least for us, the choices do not give us an easy choice. InfoTrac is not in the same group as LINK and ScienceDirect. Which should we choose? It doesn't seem possible to personalize the providers for your library. This means that there will be providers listed in your WilsonLink which are not licensed by your institution. Bruce Abbott Assistant Director for Library Systems and Electronic Resources LSUHSC Library 433 Bolivar St. New Orleans, LA 70112 babbot@lsuhsc.edu 504-568-6103 (voice) 504-568-7718 (fax) -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth R. Irwin [mailto:kirwin@wittenberg.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] SFX and WilsonWeb Hi folks, Is anyone using the SFX capabilities of the new WilsonWeb interface? As nearly as I can tell, the *outgoing* SFX functionality (from WilsonWeb to content from other vendors) is really lame: it seems to link only on the database level and not the article level; and unless you host your own SFX server, you don't have much control over what databases you link to. (It's weird and complicated; I'll not try to explain it here.) If you have had a different experience (able to link on the article level, or able to tailor the outgoing links to databases you have locally), I'd really like to hear about it. I'd like to believe that no one would have implemented a system as bad as this one seems to me. I hope it's because I'm over-looking something. Also, is anyone using their local openURL-product-of-choice to link *to* WilsonWeb fulltext? I'd like to hear about that too. Thanks, Ken Ken Irwin kirwin@wittenberg.edu Reference/Electronic Resources Librarian (937) 327-7594 Thomas Library, Wittenberg University ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From rboulton at linc.lib.il.us Wed Jan 8 15:21:40 2003 From: rboulton at linc.lib.il.us (Robin Boulton) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Public Access PC time management software In-Reply-To: <1041975002.3e1b46dada829@imp.sls.lib.il.us> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030108140133.024faec0@lincserver1.linc.lib.il.us> We have been using Envisionware's LPT1 and PC Reservation software for about 3 months now. I am generally pretty satisfied with it (no software is perfect) and would suggest you start by going to their web site (http://www.envisionware.com). We have approximately 25 machines using one or both packages. We're a small/medium public library. We use DeepFreeze on most of the machines and have not experienced the slightest conflict between it and any other software (unless that's what keeps losing the automatic login on some of our machines!) Envisionware works through resellers and we have been fortunate in ours. I think with this type of software it is important to have good local support and I suggest you check out what resellers you have in your area and get references for them before proceeding - whatever software you may choose. I speak from the experience of having dealt with a different reseller and a different product last year; the experience was a nightmare - lousy software compounded by either inattention or incompetence on the part of the reseller - it was pretty hard to tell which. Our current partners promised us that we would be 100% satisfied, and although the software, as I said, is not perfect, they have made extreme efforts to deal with the situation and to help us work around and fix problems. We previously had some experience with software from OCS and I do not recommend it. I have heard complaints about CybraryN but I have no direct experience to back them up. One thing I like about Envisionware is that they do seem very aware of the issues faced in libraries and they seek input from their user base about enhancements. They have a user email list (sign up at the web site) and I have several times found myself in a dialog with a VP of the company - and got results from it too! Let me stress again the importance of solid, competent local support - even with the availability of people in the vendor company our reseller has saved me hours and one of their guys has spent several days out here in total (some of that time was due to simultaneous hardware failure on our print release stations and reservation station - but that's a whole 'nother story...). Feel free to contact me directly if you would like more detail. HTH, Robin ______________________________________________________ Robin Boulton rboulton@linc.lib.il.us IT Manager (630) 584 0076 x 258 St. Charles Public Library District Cell: (630) 918 8738 St. Charles, IL 60174 FAX: (630) 584 3448 http://www.st-charles.lib.il.us ______________________________________________________ At 01:32 PM 1/7/2003 -0800, Eric M. Battaglia wrote: >Hi, > >I apologize if this subject has been covered before. > >Has anyone had any experience with time and print management software for >public >access machines? We're looking at SAM and CybraryN. We have five public >access >PCs specifically for Internet and PC work, with two more for this purpose >in the >Youth Services department. We expect our computer room to grow with time, and >would like to implement a software that can help us manage patron's time used, >printout payments, and enforce our Internet use policies. > >If anyone has experience implementing either one of these or a similar >product, >I would appreciate it if you could share some details: > >How large was your institution? > >How many PCs were covered? > >Did this software interact badly with security software like Deep Freeze >or Fortres? > > > >Eric Battaglia >Technology Manager >Adult Services >Forest Park Public Library From kgs at bluehighways.com Wed Jan 8 20:18:12 2003 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (Karen G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:40 2005 Subject: Internet Portals Interest Group at ALA Midwinter Message-ID: <034201c2b77c$fad0f0a0$0200a8c0@TAWANDA> (Apologies for cross-posting; please feel free to forward to related lists.) Interested in Internet Portals? Don't miss this meeting at ALA Midwinter! What: LITA Internet Portals Interest Group Where: MAR (Philadelphia Marriott), rm. 305 When: Saturday, 1/25/2003, from 8:30 a.m. til 10:15 Who: Existing portal managers and staff, large and small (the portals as well as the people); portal software developers; and any other ALA members interested in the issues and mechanics of creating and maintaining significant collections of Web resources. Note: This is the kick-off meeting for this interest group. Library of Congress will be there to address participation in its Action Plan. See you in Chilly Philly! Karen G. Schneider (lii.org) and Steve Mitchell (Infomine), Co-chairs, LITA IPIG ---------------------------------------------- Karen G. Schneider kgs@lii.org http://lii.org Director, Librarians' Index to the Internet lii.org New This Week: http://lii.org/ntw lii.org: Information You Can Trust! "A ship in port is safe, but that is not what ships are for." -- Grace Hopper ---------------------------------------------- From josh at saratoga.lib.ny.us Mon Jan 27 13:32:11 2003 From: josh at saratoga.lib.ny.us (Josh Kuperman) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:40 2005 Subject: proxy.pac files Message-ID: <20030127133211.A18999@saratoga.lib.ny.us> I am wondering if anyone knows of a good guide to writing Proxy Autocofiguration files. I wrote a very basic proxy.pac ages ago. I need to get fancy. I do have docs that I downloaded in May of 01 (my guess it the URLs have changed since then but they may still be there - I didn't check the links): http://www.squid-cache..org/Doc/FAQ/FAQ-5.html http://home.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/2.0/relnotes/demo/proxy-live.html http://developer.netscape.com/docs/manuals/proxy/adminiux/autoconf.htm They seem pretty good: I'm trying to write one that will switch from my old proxy to a new proxy, based on the ip address of the machines on my network. eg. if ip=192.168.1.45 use 192.168.1.2, if ip in range (192.168.1.92/27) use 192.168.1.1. Just curious if anyone has done something like that. -- Josh Kuperman josh@saratoga.lib.ny.us From king at julip.fcgov.com Mon Jan 27 14:49:30 2003 From: king at julip.fcgov.com (Jacque King) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Public Web Browser In-Reply-To: <20030124205532.3D1A1A0DA@pobox.upenn.edu> Message-ID: Illene - Public Web Browser is an excellent product with exceptional support. I highly recommend it. Jacque King Library Technical Support Specialist Fort Collins Public Library 201 Peterson Street Fort Collins, CO 80524 (970) 221-6716 king@julip.fcgov.com On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Illene Rubin wrote: > > Hi - are any public libraries using Public Web Browser on their public > workstations? We are trying to control chatting, downloading, etc. > > How do you like it? > > Thanks for any info. > > Illene Rubin > Gloucester City Public Library > Gloucester City, New Jersey > gc@camden.lib.nj.us > > -- > > > > From Peter.Murray at uconn.edu Mon Jan 27 15:42:39 2003 From: Peter.Murray at uconn.edu (Peter Murray) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:40 2005 Subject: Standard format for such things as Telephone Numbers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2147483647.1043682159@localhost> --On Tuesday, January 21, 2003 2:43 PM -0800 "Paul (BRI)" wrote: > I was looking for standards on the format for such things as > telephone numbers. I've never run across such a thing, but I do know that the maximum size of a phone number is 15 digits. Getting a list of country codes is easy enough, but everything after the country code, though, depends on, well, the country. Peter P.S.: Thanks, Shirl, for the international addresses site! -- Peter Murray http://www.pandc.org/peter/work/ Director, Library Information Technology Services 860-486-0395 University of Connecticut Libraries Storrs, Connecticut From sullivan at portland.lib.me.us Sat Jan 11 15:47:40 2003 From: sullivan at portland.lib.me.us (Suzanne Sullivan) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:41 2005 Subject: Time Management Software Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030111153242.00ab3c98@192.168.2.4> Hello, Our library is also looking at time and print management software. We are looking at Cybraryn, Envisionware, and Pharos. I would appreciate hearing from anyone in a small to medium sized public library who has experience with any of these products and would be willing to answer a few questions. Thank you. Suzanne Sullivan Electronic Resources/Reference Librarian Portland Public Library 5 Monument Square Portland, ME 04101 sullivan@portland.lib.me.us 207-871-1725 Fax: 207-871-1714 From Traugott.Koch at ub2.lu.se Tue Jan 14 12:15:09 2003 From: Traugott.Koch at ub2.lu.se (Traugott.Koch@ub2.lu.se) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:42 2005 Subject: PhD Position Opening in Digital Library research Message-ID: <200301141715.SAA27910@irlib.lub.lu.se> Hi, Below you'll find an announcement of a PhD position opening in Digital Library research in Lund/Sweden. If you are not interested personally please forward this to other interested parties. Thanks ---------- PhD Position Opening at Department of Information Technology, Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden (http://www.it.lth.se/) This position is funded for a period of 3 years. A PhD position is available to conduct research within the field of Digital Libraries. The student will join a newly started interdisciplinary Digital Library project with participants from Dept. of Information Technology (Anders Ard?), NetLab(*), Lund University Library (Traugott Koch) and BTJ(**) (Michael Ovnell). The project involves areas like * architectural implementation aspects on a distributed, multi-layered Digital Library * interaction between components and architecture in a distributed Digital Library * integration of heterogeneous resources * data mining, information retrieval, artificial intelligence * semi-intelligent information search agent with Web harvesting, automatic subject classification, text categorization * subject specific search engines * user interface aspects Main focus is to improve resource discovery methodology with the help of techniques from different areas like semantic web (including thesauri, ontologies, etc) and computer science/engineering. Experimental facilities include a Linux cluster with some 10 computers and a fast Internet connection. The specific area for this position will be adapted to the applicants interests and skills. The applicant should have a relevant education, typically a master degree in computer engineering, computer science, informatics, library science, information retrieval, computational linguistics or similar. Experience with Digital Library problems and/or computer engineering/science is an advantage. More information will appear at http://www.it.lth.se/anders/research/ Contact Anders Ard?, anders@it.lth.se for more information. A preliminary expression of interest should include a short description of your research interest, why you are interested in the work, and a CV. The working language could be Swedish or English. (*) NetLab - http://www.lub.lu.se/netlab/ - is the Research and Development Department at Lund University Libraries. (**) BTJ - http://www.btj.se/ - develops, refines and supplies information services and media products to libraries, booksellers, publishers, companies and institutions. ---- Best regards Anders -- -------- Anders Ard? Department of Information Technology, Lund University Tel: +46 46 2227522 URL: http://www.it.lth.se/anders/ -- +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | TRAUGOTT KOCH, Senior librarian, Digital Library Scientist | NETLAB, Knowledge Technologies Group. Lund Univ. Libraries | P.O. Box 134. S-221 00 Lund, Sweden | Tel: int+46 46 2229233 Fax: int+46 46 2223682 | E-mail: traugott.koch@ub2.lu.se | Personal homepage: http://www.lub.lu.se/koch.html +-------------------------------------------------------------+ From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Tue Jan 14 12:24:50 2003 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:42 2005 Subject: Article in Reference & User Services Quarterly Message-ID: <53F453830C5F4B458002E3E863C2339B476E54@Mail0.csntprod.morrisville.edu> I just finished reading a very good article in Vol. 42, Number 2 Winter 2002 issue of Reference & User Services Quarterly titled "Web Accssibility of mid-szied college and university libraries." It makes many good observations. I have on big problem with the journal but not the article. The article was submitted for review on OCtober 10, 2001 and was revised and accepted for publication on Feb 12, 2002. This means the data is probably over a year old and does not necessarily reflect current state of library websites. I am concerned that a research journal written by and peer reviewed by librarians takes over a year to publish an article. It is clear to me that the turn around time is too long for this particular journal. Bill Drew From suekamm at mindspring.com Tue Jan 14 13:36:47 2003 From: suekamm at mindspring.com (Sue Kamm) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:42 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Article in Reference & User Services Quarterly Message-ID: "Drew, Bill" wrote: I just finished reading a very good article in Vol. 42, Number 2 Winter 2002 issue of Reference & User Services Quarterly titled "Web Accssibility of mid-szied college and university libraries." It makes many good observations. I have on big problem with the journal but not the article. The article was submitted for review on OCtober 10, 2001 and was revised and accepted for publication on Feb 12, 2002. This means the data is probably over a year old and does not necessarily reflect current state of library websites. I am concerned that a research journal written by and peer reviewed by librarians takes over a year to publish an article. It is clear to me that the turn around time is too long for this particular journal. **Isn't this a problem with any publication that's peer-reviewed? I don't know about other publications, but I think most ALA periodicals are edited by volunteers, rather than full-time paid persons. Here's a link to the RUSA board: http://www.ala.org/rusa/board.html You might want to address your question to the editors and/or officers. Your friendly CyberGoddess and ALA Councilor-at-large, Sue Kamm Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000 Visit my home page: http://suekamm.home.mindspring.com/index.htm email: suekamm@mindspring.com When you absolutely, positively HAVE to know, ASK A LIBRARIAN! From george at library.caltech.edu Tue Jan 14 14:45:15 2003 From: george at library.caltech.edu (george@library.caltech.edu) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:42 2005 Subject: position announcement -- Caltech Message-ID: <0C2C50C9B668D311878100A0C9EA36760151CD2D@dungeon.library.caltech.edu> ** This position is being cross-posted to a number of discussion lists. Feel free to forward to other individuals who may be interested. ** I will be at ALA Midwinter and available to discuss the position. Applications and resumes will not be accepted at that time. Please contact me (george@library.caltech.edu) to arrange a chance to talk about this unique opportunity. George S. Porter Sherman Fairchild Library of Engineering & Applied Science Caltech, 1-43 Pasadena, CA 91125-4300 Telephone (626) 395-3409 Fax (626) 431-2681 ===================== Technical Reference Librarian for Engineering and Applied Science Caltech Library System Application deadline: Initial review begins 17 February 2003. Position open until filled. Salary: $45,000 minimum; commensurate with experience and qualifications. Competitive benefits, including TIAA/CREF, 21 days of vacation. CLS is seeking a dynamic, exciting, and energetic librarian. Join us in advancing the frontiers of digital publishing, while maintaining subject expertise and liaison activities with a technologically sophisticated, research-oriented clientele that expects a high degree of service. The successful candidate has extensive experience meeting the information needs of the scientific community and a demonstrated knowledge of some or all of the following: HTML, XML, EAD, TEI, CSS, etc. Responsibilities include reference service, instruction, and collection development. CLS is a lean and nonhierarchical organization. Librarians and staff function in an interrupt-driven, multidisciplinary team environment. Each librarian thrives with a marked degree of autonomy, authority, and responsibility. Requirements: ALA-accredited MLS; 3-5 years experience in an academic/research environment supporting science, engineering, and/or the applied sciences. Proficiency in all modes of communication is essential. Demonstrated commitment to continuous learning and professional development for oneself and for the team, and active participation in the library profession are expected. For consideration please send a cover letter, resume, and the names and contact information of three references to Chair, Search Committee, Technical Reference Librarian, Caltech Library System, 1-32, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA 91125-3200. The official position description is available from Caltech Human Resources . From dmattison at shaw.ca Wed Jan 15 01:31:28 2003 From: dmattison at shaw.ca (D.H. Mattison) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:42 2005 Subject: Online peer-review publishing and post-peer review publishing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030114222117.0206f618@shawmail> It's not a problem with online peer-reviewed publications because they don't have the hardcopy timelag (typesetting/layout, printing, binding, mailing). You could also do post-peer review publishing with a wiki-type system where continuous, open feedback is the norm. Of course this doesn't quite mesh with aspects of the tenure system as I understand it (publish or perish), but given that there're movements afoot to restructure the entire scholarly publishing system, what's wrong with post-peer review publishing as a process or additional type of scholarly publishing? If you forget or modify the tenure system to accommodate such a process, the goal with post-peer review publishing would be to reach consensus on a stated problem or issue and reward, not just the author(s), but also the reviewers who can act as content contributors. Well, ok, Rome wasn't built in a day .... David Mattison dmattison@shaw.ca From ae5308 at wayne.edu Fri Jan 17 07:54:34 2003 From: ae5308 at wayne.edu (Jeff Trzeciak) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: job posting Message-ID: <008301c2be27$a7afbf30$c154d98d@lib.wayne.edu> Please see the attached posting for a web librarian at Wayne State University. If you have any questions, please email me directly at ae5308@wayne.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/web4lib/attachments/20030117/96ab3d8d/attachment.htm From purcell at louisville.edu Fri Jan 17 08:40:23 2003 From: purcell at louisville.edu (Michael O Purcell) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: Public Workstations, IE, and Restricted Sites Message-ID: Is anyone using IE-SPYAD for Internet Explorer on their public workstations? I was looking for a list of sites that have mischevious ActiveX controls (Gator, Comet Cursor, etc...) that I could put in IE's Restricted sites zone. I came across IE-SPYAD and am wondering if this is overkill. http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~ehowes/resource.htm#IESPYAD "IE-SPYAD is a Registry file (IE-ADS.REG) that adds a long list of known advertisers, marketers, and spyware pushers to the Restricted sites zone of Internet Explorer. Once IE-ADS.REG is "merged" into your Registry, most direct marketers and spyware pushers will not be able to resort to their usual "tricks" (e.g., cookies, scripts, popups, et al) in order to monitor and track your behavior while you surf the Net." -- Michael Purcell, Network Admin, purcell@louisville.edu University Libraries, Office of Libraries Technology University of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292 Phone: (502) 852-3903 | Pager: (502) 455-1036 From Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org Fri Jan 17 10:15:34 2003 From: Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org (Walt_Crawford@notes.rlg.org) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: Cites & Insights February 2003 Available Message-ID: Cites & Insights: Crawford at Large, v.3, no. 2 (February 2003) is now available. Temporarily, you'll find this issue at http://cical.home.att.net/civ3i2.pdf (After early February at the latest, it should be at its normal home, cites.boisestate.edu/civ3i2.pdf.) This 18-page issue includes: * Copy protection and next-generation audio (a copyright perspective) * The library stuff: one article * Bibs & blather * Following up: FEPP revisited * Perspective: The gap between logic & reality * Trends & quick takes: three trends, five quicker takes * disContent: Choices and complexity * The good stuff: nine items * Perspective: Tracking the forecasts * Interesting & peculiar products: 15 items. Yes, I'm aware of the CTEA decision and the "copy protection compromise"--but Cites & Insights isn't a newspaper or a Weblog. Expect discussion of both in the March 2003 issue. From nicolas.morin at scd.uhp-nancy.fr Fri Jan 17 11:35:52 2003 From: nicolas.morin at scd.uhp-nancy.fr (nicolas morin) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Koha (ILS) article in "Linux Journal" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E2830E8.20709@scd.uhp-nancy.fr> Euan Morton wrote: >Yes, those Kanny Kiwis have been mentioned before, a search in the Web4Lib >archives gives 8 hits for Koha, with the top one being: >http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/archive/0103/0454.html > >Their site is http://www.koha.org/ > I should add that Koha has grown international too : a group of French people (myself among them) are working on it as well, a few Canadians, Germans, Americans too. The current development version is 1.3.3. and has many new features, the most important being complete compliance with both MARC21 and UNIMARC. Both the OPAC and the intranet have been templated : it allows you to give it your own look and feel. The 1.3.3. release is currently being tested and will hopefully become a 2.0 stable version in the coming weeks. Nicolas Morin From beden at ccmail.nevada.edu Fri Jan 17 11:27:19 2003 From: beden at ccmail.nevada.edu (beden@ccmail.nevada.edu) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: Call for articles: MARC and Metadata: Future Developments... Message-ID: Please excuse any duplication, and please forward to appropriate and interested individuals and listservs. Call for articles: Special issue of Library Hi Tech titled: MARC and Metadata: Future Developments and Relationships This is a call for articles for a special issue of Library Hi Tech devoted to the topic of MARC and metadata standards/initiatives that are attempting to enhance, exploit, emulate, and/or replace the MARC standard. This special issue is especially interested in examining current developments with MODS, METS, XML MARC, and OAI in these areas, and the issue editor is looking for experts, developers, and users of these standards to write articles for the issue. The deadline for receipt of final articles would be June 31, 2003, and the issue would probably be published in late 2003/early 2004. If you are interested in writing an article, please send a proposal with a title and short abstract of the content of the article, as well as some information regarding your expertise and experience with the standard(s) that you plan to discuss. Co-authored articles are also encouraged. If you have any questions, please contact the special issue editor at: Brad Eden, Ph.D. Head, Bibliographic and Metadata Services University of Nevada, Las Vegas beden@ccmail.nevada.edu Deadline for receipt of proposals is January 31, 2003. From suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu Fri Jan 17 12:02:24 2003 From: suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu (Susan M. Johns) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: ADA compliance statements for web page designs Message-ID: <200301171702.LAA65826@mail.pittstate.edu> Does anyone already have on their web sites 1) a compliance statement regarding standards used for ADA 2) in conjuction with web construction/design guidelines for faculty and staff 3) and possibly in conjunction with "graphics identity" guidelines ? I've look at a couple of sites and find graphics identity guideline pages that are quite comprehensive, but am finding difficulty locating any guidelines stated "per se" on the web sites which not only incorporate identity guidelines but also minimum compliance expected for ADA-influenced design. I'm thinking these policy statements have to be out there but perhaps are not readily available to the public and may be hidden on local intra-nets?? If you have examples, could you provide urls off-list if they are available for public review? Thanks, q Susan Johns Smith Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 Pittsburg KS 66762 suzyq@mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan From rboulton at linc.lib.il.us Fri Jan 17 12:15:35 2003 From: rboulton at linc.lib.il.us (Robin Boulton) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: Fwd: pop ups Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030117110546.0255fbe8@lincserver1.linc.lib.il.us> With apologies for cross-posting, I'm seeking any recommendations or helpful ideas on this topic. I'm using a program called AnalogXPOW! on my machine right now. It works OK but you have to manually tell it each time a new popup appears to add it to the kill list. That particular ad won't reappear but similar ones with near-identical names will still pop until added to the list. I would like to find something that can identify a popup (or a pop-under) simply by its behavior and automatically kill it. I am wary of such programs however because I have read that some of them are spyware or have other undesirable behaviors themselves. (If anyone knows whether there's truth to that, I'd like to know that too). Any solid recommendations, based on real world experience with no undesirable side effects, would be greatly appreciated. We are completely Win2K, running IE 5.5/6.0 on all machines. >From: Adult Ref >Subject: pop ups > >Hi Robin - random pop-up ads on the Reference computers are driving us >CRAZY! It's very embarrassing to be searching w/ a patron and have a Hot >Chicks in Bikinis ad pop up. > >Anything we can do to prevent this? I know there's pop-up ad killing >software, but what's the best way? ______________________________________________________ Robin Boulton rboulton@linc.lib.il.us IT Manager (630) 584 0076 x 258 St. Charles Public Library District Cell: (630) 918 8738 St. Charles, IL 60174 FAX: (630) 584 3448 http://www.st-charles.lib.il.us ______________________________________________________ From cmurdock at ccfls.org Fri Jan 17 13:10:55 2003 From: cmurdock at ccfls.org (c.murdock) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Fwd: pop ups In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030117110546.0255fbe8@lincserver1.linc.lib.il.us> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030117110546.0255fbe8@lincserver1.linc.lib.il.us> Message-ID: <20030117181057.10079.qmail@mplcat1.meadvillelibrary.org> You could try using Mozilla or Opera instead of IE, though I don't know whether they're available for Win2k. Both browsers allow you to block popups, without any add-on software. Interestingly, Netscape, which is based on Mozilla, doesn't have this capability. I guess the Netscape team decided it conflicted with their commercial interests. ;) c. -- Cindy Murdock Network Administrator Meadville Public Library/Crawford County Federated Library System http://meadvillelibrary.org & http://ccfls.org On Friday 17 January 2003 12:16 pm, Robin Boulton wrote: > With apologies for cross-posting, I'm seeking any recommendations or > helpful ideas on this topic. > > I'm using a program called AnalogXPOW! on my machine right now. It works OK > but you have to manually tell it each time a new popup appears to add it to > the kill list. That particular ad won't reappear but similar ones with > near-identical names will still pop until added to the list. I would like > to find something that can identify a popup (or a pop-under) simply by its > behavior and automatically kill it. I am wary of such programs however > because I have read that some of them are spyware or have other undesirable > behaviors themselves. (If anyone knows whether there's truth to that, I'd > like to know that too). Any solid recommendations, based on real world > experience with no undesirable side effects, would be greatly appreciated. > We are completely Win2K, running IE 5.5/6.0 on all machines. > From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Fri Jan 17 13:17:05 2003 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Fwd: pop ups In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030117110546.0255fbe8@lincserver1.linc.lib.il.us> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030117110546.0255fbe8@lincserver1.linc.lib.il.us> Message-ID: <3E2848A1.5000504@ohiolink.edu> Robin Boulton wrote: >I'm using a program called AnalogXPOW! on my machine right now. It works OK >but you have to manually tell it each time a new popup appears... >We are completely Win2K, running IE 5.5/6.0 on all machines. > People who use Proxomitron swear by it. I don't use it myself, preferring browsers that have a built in option to disable pop ups. Opera 6+ (7 beta is better at this) and Mozilla both have it. The marketing overlords at AOL Time Warner yanked it out of Netscape 6/7, but there's a script to restore it. Thomas Dowling tdowling@ohiolink.edu From raywood at magma.ca Fri Jan 17 13:23:57 2003 From: raywood at magma.ca (Raymond Wood) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Fwd: pop ups In-Reply-To: <20030117181057.10079.qmail@mplcat1.meadvillelibrary.org> References: <20030117181057.10079.qmail@mplcat1.meadvillelibrary.org> Message-ID: <20030117182357.GD1213@magma.ca> On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 10:12:21AM -0800, c.murdock remarked: > You could try using Mozilla or Opera instead of IE, though I > don't know whether they're available for Win2k. Mozilla is cross-platform (GNU/Linux, Windows, Mac) - that's one reason everyone in this forum should support it by using it :) > Both browsers allow you to block popups, without any add-on > software. Interestingly, Netscape, (i.e. the new generation 'Netscape', version 6+) > which is based on Mozilla, doesn't have this capability. I > guess the Netscape team decided it conflicted with their > commercial interests. ;) Exactly. The new Netscape can be safely ignored - it is Mozilla that is the real FLOSS (free/libre open source software) player anyway. Cheers, Raymond From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Fri Jan 17 13:24:42 2003 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew I. Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Fwd: pop ups In-Reply-To: <3E2848A1.5000504@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: Pop-up blocking is available in Netscape 7.01. It wasn't available in 7.0 although as Thomas noted, it's pretty easy to add the capability using a script to do that. Mozilla builds and Netscape 7.01 are available for Windows 2000. Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Thomas Dowling wrote: > Robin Boulton wrote: > > >I'm using a program called AnalogXPOW! on my machine right now. It works OK > >but you have to manually tell it each time a new popup appears... > >We are completely Win2K, running IE 5.5/6.0 on all machines. > > > > People who use Proxomitron swear by it. > I don't use it myself, preferring browsers that have a built in option > to disable pop ups. Opera 6+ (7 beta is better at this) and Mozilla > both have it. The marketing overlords at AOL Time Warner yanked it out > of Netscape 6/7, but there's a script to restore it. > > Thomas Dowling > tdowling@ohiolink.edu > > From cirwin at wheelock.edu Fri Jan 17 13:51:14 2003 From: cirwin at wheelock.edu (Charlie Irwin) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: Mozilla and pop-ups Message-ID: <200301171351.AA173670606@wheelockpo.wheelock.edu> Okay, it's Friday and I'm fighting a bug, so maybe I'm missing the obvious. Where does one enable/disable the pop-ups in Mozilla? I couldn't find it on the Preferences. Thanks, Charlie Irwin -- Charlie Irwin Reference & Information Services Librarian Wheelock College Library 132 Riverway Boston, MA 02215 Phone: 617-879-2222 Fax: 617-879-2408 E-mail: cirwin@wheelock.edu -- From jkup at jkup.net Fri Jan 17 14:01:05 2003 From: jkup at jkup.net (John Kupersmith) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: "Other home pages": request for info Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20030117104720.025c3a18@pop3.catalog.com> PACS-L, PUBLIB-NET, & WEB4LIB subscribers (with apologies for cross-posting) -- I'm updating the listings posted on "The Other Home Page: Special-Purpose Entry Points for Library Web Sites" < http://www.jkup.net/other.html > If your library uses special home pages (different from your primary home page) on public access Internet stations, on staff computers, or for other user groups, please send me the URL's. If your staff home page is behind a firewall but you're willing to send a screen shot for posting, that's fine. --jk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Kupersmith jkup@jkup.net http://www.jkup.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Reference Librarian http://www.lib.berkeley.edu Doe/Moffitt Libraries University of California, Berkeley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Not speaking for UCB in this message~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Fri Jan 17 14:05:29 2003 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Mozilla and pop-ups In-Reply-To: <200301171351.AA173670606@wheelockpo.wheelock.edu> References: <200301171351.AA173670606@wheelockpo.wheelock.edu> Message-ID: <3E2853F9.60500@ohiolink.edu> Charlie Irwin wrote: >Okay, it's Friday and I'm fighting a bug, so maybe I'm missing the obvious. Where does one enable/disable the pop-ups in Mozilla? I couldn't find it on the Preferences. > > > Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Scripts & Plugins. Check "open unrequested windows" off. Thomas Dowling tdowling@ohiolink.edu From mark.ellis at yourlibrary.ca Fri Jan 17 14:04:29 2003 From: mark.ellis at yourlibrary.ca (Mark Ellis) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Fwd: pop ups Message-ID: <179ED821C9E81A45A575004FF401C008C5BDBB@ara.rpl.richmond.bc.ca> On the flip-side, our Geac Geoweb catalog uses popups for patron functions, so we've had a few instances of patrons with anti-popup software wondering why they couldn't place holds etc. Mark Ellis Manager, Reference and Information Services Richmond Public Library Richmond, B.C. (604) 231-6410 www.yourlibrary.ca > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew I. Mutch [mailto:amutch@waterford.lib.mi.us] > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:26 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Fwd: pop ups > > > Pop-up blocking is available in Netscape 7.01. It wasn't > available in 7.0 > although as Thomas noted, it's pretty easy to add the > capability using a > script to do that. Mozilla builds and Netscape 7.01 are available for > Windows 2000. > > Andrew Mutch > Library Systems Technician > Waterford Township Public Library > Waterford, MI > > > > On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Thomas Dowling wrote: > > > Robin Boulton wrote: > > > > >I'm using a program called AnalogXPOW! on my machine right > now. It works OK > > >but you have to manually tell it each time a new popup appears... > > >We are completely Win2K, running IE 5.5/6.0 on all machines. > > > > > > > People who use Proxomitron swear by it. > > > I don't use it myself, preferring browsers that have a > built in option > > to disable pop ups. Opera 6+ (7 beta is better at this) > and Mozilla > > both have it. The marketing overlords at AOL Time Warner > yanked it out > > of Netscape 6/7, but there's a script to restore it. > > > > Thomas Dowling > > tdowling@ohiolink.edu > > > > > > From raywood at magma.ca Fri Jan 17 14:05:39 2003 From: raywood at magma.ca (Raymond Wood) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Mozilla and pop-ups In-Reply-To: <200301171351.AA173670606@wheelockpo.wheelock.edu> References: <200301171351.AA173670606@wheelockpo.wheelock.edu> Message-ID: <20030117190539.GE1213@magma.ca> On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 10:52:41AM -0800, Charlie Irwin remarked: > Okay, it's Friday and I'm fighting a bug, so maybe I'm missing > the obvious. Where does one enable/disable the pop-ups in > Mozilla? I couldn't find it on the Preferences. > > Thanks, > > Charlie Irwin Try this: ---------------------------------------------------------------- o Edit -> Preferences o Advanced -> Scripts & Plugins o Now, enable javascript for navigator only, and uncheck all the 'Allow scripts to' checkboxes o Then reload the web page ---------------------------------------------------------------- Good luck, Raymond From rboulton at linc.lib.il.us Fri Jan 17 16:10:08 2003 From: rboulton at linc.lib.il.us (Robin Boulton) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: Responses to popup ad question Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030117150856.025256a8@lincserver1.linc.lib.il.us> My thanks to everyone who responded; I have several products to try and some good information. I really appreciate the help. ______________________________________________________ Robin Boulton rboulton@linc.lib.il.us IT Manager (630) 584 0076 x 258 St. Charles Public Library District Cell: (630) 918 8738 St. Charles, IL 60174 FAX: (630) 584 3448 http://www.st-charles.lib.il.us ______________________________________________________ ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From rboulton at linc.lib.il.us Fri Jan 17 17:11:24 2003 From: rboulton at linc.lib.il.us (Robin Boulton) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: Responses to popup ad question Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030117161112.02554308@lincserver1.linc.lib.il.us> My thanks to everyone who responded; I have several products to try and some good information. I really appreciate the help. ______________________________________________________ Robin Boulton rboulton@linc.lib.il.us IT Manager (630) 584 0076 x 258 St. Charles Public Library District Cell: (630) 918 8738 St. Charles, IL 60174 FAX: (630) 584 3448 http://www.st-charles.lib.il.us ______________________________________________________ From nicolas.morin at scd.uhp-nancy.fr Mon Jan 20 02:56:08 2003 From: nicolas.morin at scd.uhp-nancy.fr (nicolas morin) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:43 2005 Subject: Koha (ILS) article in "Linux Journal" Message-ID: <3E2BAB98.4000802@scd.uhp-nancy.fr> Euan Morton wrote: > Yes, those Kanny Kiwis have been mentioned before, a search in the Web4Lib > archives gives 8 hits for Koha, with the top one being: > http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/archive/0103/0454.html > > Their site is http://www.koha.org/ > I should add that the Open Source ILS Koha has grown international too : a group of French people are working on it as well, a few Canadians, Germans, Americans too. The current development version is 1.3.3. and has many new features, the most important being complete compliance with both MARC21 and UNIMARC. Both the OPAC and the intranet have been templated : it allows you to give it your own look and feel. The 1.3.3. release is currently being tested and will hopefully become a 2.0 stable version in the coming weeks. Nicolas Morin From phenriksen at neflin.org Tue Jan 21 09:15:55 2003 From: phenriksen at neflin.org (Phalbe Henriksen) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:44 2005 Subject: ?making it easy for patrons to report typos in databases In-Reply-To: <1043086668.3e2c3d4c682a9@webmail.unr.edu> Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030121091222.00a81958@mail.neflin.org> Folks, I've received a very interesting plea from a man who uses many library databases. He would like for libraries to make it easy to report typos they've discovered in their online databases. He even suggests that the "hit" page have a link that could be clicked on for this purpose. Does anyone make a point of making it easy for patrons to do this kind of reporting? If so, would you please post your URL so I can see what you've done? Thanks. Phalbe Henriksen Director Bradford County Public Library Starke, FL From Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org Tue Jan 21 11:01:53 2003 From: Walt_Crawford at notes.rlg.org (Walt_Crawford@notes.rlg.org) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] ?making it easy for patrons to report typos in databases Message-ID: Phalbe, If your search systems allow it, a "Feedback" link can be useful not only to report typos but also other problems, notes, even praise. I'm coming from the "vendor side" in this case, but with years of personal/organizational experience. We added a Feedback link to Eureka, RLG's end-user search system, years ago; it opens up a text box for the message, with an optional e-mail address if the sender desires a response. For a while, most of the feedback was various comments and complaints about the system itself. Now that we've addressed most of those complaints (which were quite legitimate), most of the feedback consists of suggestions about databases--notes on errors in some cases, notes from authors asking why such-and-such an article isn't included in others. We even get praise now and then, always astonishing in a feedback system. Until the last few months, I responded to most feedback directly, with one of the other Eureka designers responding if I was out of town, unless a database-specific issue was better handled by our database managers. Now, the RLG Information Center is the first line of response, although--since most feedback now involves database issues--quite a few wind up with the database managers. Now, as then, we try to reply to every message that has a valid email address--frequently within half a day or less, which always seems to startle users. I will say that: (a) the mechanism works, (b) the level of feedback has never been onerous--for us, typically about one a day for a system that sees around 100,000+ searches a week, (c) we've had fewer than a dozen curse-filled messages in the better part of a decade, but then we primarily serve colleges and universities, and (d) easy feedback mechanisms--preferably using a text entry box, NOT a mailto: link with its nasty invocation of MS Outlook!--make any Web site more user friendly, as long as the feedback isn't ignored. You can try it out (Eureka, that is--feel free to click on Feedback, but please don't actually send feedback unless there's something you need to report!) here: http://www.rlg.org/eureka.html -walt crawford, RLG, my own opinions only- Folks, I've received a very interesting plea from a man who uses many library databases. He would like for libraries to make it easy to report typos they've discovered in their online databases. He even suggests that the "hit" page have a link that could be clicked on for this purpose. Does anyone make a point of making it easy for patrons to do this kind of reporting? If so, would you please post your URL so I can see what you've done? Thanks. Phalbe Henriksen Director Bradford County Public Library Starke, FL From Jennifer.Stirling at library.ottawa.on.ca Tue Jan 21 11:29:07 2003 From: Jennifer.Stirling at library.ottawa.on.ca (Stirling, Jennifer) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:44 2005 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?FW=3A_Integrated_Systems_Librarian_at_Ottawa_?= =?windows-1252?Q?Public_Library/Biblioth=E9caire_de_syst=E8mes_unifi=E9?= =?windows-1252?Q?s?= Message-ID: <3B01F65FA1F0D511955500508BB44D060368C236@DC2EXC002> > Please find enclosed a job description at the Ottawa Public Library. > Please feel free to forward on questions. > > Regards, > > Jennifer > **************************************************** > Integrated Library Systems Librarian > 1 Permanent Full-time position - 35 hrs/week > various shifts - days, evenings, weekends > Ottawa Public Library, Ben Franklin Place > Salary: $42,065.66 - $49,200.06 > Competition n? PS2002/648-BH > Deadline: January 31, 2003 > > Scope > Under the supervision of the Coordinator, Virtual Library Services, > provides Integrated Library Systems support and training to the Library > staff and public with an emphasis on data interaction across all Library > information systems; and assists in the planning and development of > Virtual > Library Services on a system-wide basis. > > Statement of Qualifications > Masters degree in Library and/or Information Science from an accredited > library school > Demonstrated experience in IT systems implementation and training in an > information organization is essential > Previous library service and experience in database management is an > asset. > > Knowledge > Knowledge of current MARC cataloging and library metadata standards and > protocols. > Knowledge of current automated library systems. > Knowledge of microcomputer hardware, software and peripherals and program > languages such as SQL. > Knowledge of Microsoft NT and MS Windows > Adequate knowledge of library operations including circulation control, > catalogue searching and database maintenance > > Competencies/Skills > Excellent interpersonal communications skills > Support and promote the corporate vision > Deliver quality customer service > Perform multiple tasks concurrently > Mediate and resolve conflicts effectively > Demonstrated effective interpersonal relationships > Excellent verbal and written communication skills > Strong organizational skills > > Language > Oral fluency, reading and writing ability in English > Bilingualism will be considered an asset > > If this opportunity matches your interest and profile please forward your > resume and covering letter, quoting the competition number PS2002/648-BH > by 4:30 P.M., January 31, 2003 to: City of Ottawa, People Services, Human > Resources Service Bureau, 120 Metcalfe Street, 5th floor, Ottawa, Ontario > K1P 5M2. You may also send your resume by e-mail to psstaffing@ottawa.ca > using Word or Rich Text (rtf) for your attachments or by fax to 567-4013. > You may request a full job description through fax or e-mail. We thank all > candidates for their interest, however, only those selected for an > interview will be contacted. > > We value the contributions that aboriginal people, racial minorities, > women and people with disabilities bring to our organization. All > qualified individuals are encouraged to apply. > ************************************************************************** > ********************************** > Biblioth?caire de syst?mes unifi?s > Poste permanent ? temps plein - 35 heures par semaine > Quarts de travail variables : jour, soir et fin de semaine > Biblioth?que publique d'Ottawa, Place-Ben-Franklin > ?chelle salariale : de 42 065,66 $ ? 49 200,06 $ > Concours n? PS2002/648-BH > Date d'?ch?ance: le 31 janvier 2003 > > R?sum? des fonctions > Sous la direction du coordonnateur, Services de biblioth?que virtuelle, le > titulaire fournit au personnel de la biblioth?que et au public des > services de soutien et de formation li?s aux syst?mes unifi?s de > biblioth?que, en particulier l'?change de donn?es entre les syst?mes de la > biblioth?que; prend part ? la planification et au d?veloppement du syst?me > des services de biblioth?que virtuelle pour l'ensemble du r?seau. > > ?nonc? de qualit?s > Ma?trise en biblioth?conomie ou en science de l'information d'une ?cole de > biblioth?conomie reconnue. > Exp?rience confirm?e n?cessaire de mise en place de syst?mes de TI et de > formation dans un organisme du secteur de l'information. > Une exp?rience des services de biblioth?que et de gestion de base de > donn?es sera consid?r?e comme un atout. > > Connaissances > Connaissance des normes et des r?gles en vigueur sur le catalogage MARC et > les m?tadonn?es documentaires. > Connaissance des syst?mes automatis?s actuellement utilis?s dans les > biblioth?ques. > Connaissance des micro-ordinateurs, des logiciels, des p?riph?riques et > des langues de programmation comme SQL. > Connaissance de Microsoft NT et de MS Windows. > Connaissance suffisante des activit?s des biblioth?ques, notamment le > pr?t, la recherche dans le catalogue et la mise ? jour des bases de > donn?es. > > Comp?tences/aptitudes > Excellentes aptitudes en communication interpersonnelle > Capacit? d'appuyer et de promouvoir la vision g?n?rale de la BPO > Capacit? d'offrir un service ? la client?le de qualit? > Capacit? d'accomplir simultan?ment plusieurs t?ches > Aptitudes en m?diation et en gestion de conflits > Aptitudes interpersonnelles marqu?es > Excellentes aptitudes ? la communication orale et ?crite > Capacit?s marqu?es d'organisation > > Comp?tences linguistiques > Capacit? de s'exprimer oralement, de lire et d'?crire en anglais. > Le bilinguisme sera consid?r? comme un atout. > > Si la pr?sente offre d'emploi correspond ? vos int?r?ts et ? votre profil, > veuillez envoyer votre curriculum vit? et une lettre d'accompagnement, en > mentionnant le num?ro de concours PS2002/648-BH, ? 16 h 30 au plus tard, > le 31 janvier 2003 ? : Ville d'Ottawa, Services aux citoyens, Bureau des > Services des ressources humaines, 120, rue Metcalfe, 5e ?tage, Ottawa (ON) > K1P 5M2. Vous pouvez ?galement l'envoyer par t?l?copieur au 567-4013 ou > par courriel ? psstaffing@ottawa.ca, en utilisant la version Word ou Texte > mis en forme (.rtf) pour les pi?ces jointes. Vous pouvez demander le > profil complet du poste par t?l?copieur ou par courrier ?lectronique. Nous > remercions tous les postulants de leur int?r?t; toutefois, nous ne > communiquerons qu'avec les personnes s?lectionn?es pour une entrevue. > > Nous appr?cions la contribution que les Autochtones, les personnes des > minorit?s raciales, les femmes et les personnes handicap?es apportent ? > notre organisation. Toutes les personnes ayant les comp?tences n?cessaires > sont invit?es ? poser leur candidature. > > Jennifer Stirling > Coordinator, Virtual Library Services > Ottawa Public Library/Biblioth?que publique d'Ottawa > Nepean Centrepointe Branch > 101 Centrepointe Drive > Nepean, Ontario > Phone: 613-580-2424 X41490 > Cellular: 613-292-3586 > jennifer.stirling@library.ottawa.on.ca/ > http://www.library.ottawa.on.ca/ > > From wl-mw at msln.net Tue Jan 21 11:40:08 2003 From: wl-mw at msln.net (wl-mw@msln.net) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: ?making it easy for patrons to report typos in databases In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1043167208.3e2d77e8a69d3@mail.msln.net> This may be too elementary for this list, but I'd love to know how to easily make a simple feedback form that works. I looked at the source code for Walt's Eureka feedback form but I don't understand the cgi-bin/.pl aspects of it, or the "input type" addresses. Can anyone help, perhaps off-list? I don't want to learn another language (beyond HTML and CSS) at the moment -- I'm just looking for a simple form program. Thanks. ~ Molly Wms. -- Molly Williams Volunteer, Waterboro Public Library Weblog: http://www.waterboro.lib.me.us/blog.htm Quoting Walt_Crawford@notes.rlg.org: > > Phalbe, > > If your search systems allow it, a "Feedback" link can be useful not only > to report typos but also other problems, notes, even praise. > > I'm coming from the "vendor side" in this case, but with years of > personal/organizational experience. We added a Feedback link to Eureka, > RLG's end-user search system, years ago; it opens up a text box for the > message, with an optional e-mail address if the sender desires a response. > > For a while, most of the feedback was various comments and complaints about > the system itself. Now that we've addressed most of those complaints (which > were quite legitimate), most of the feedback consists of suggestions about > databases--notes on errors in some cases, notes from authors asking why > such-and-such an article isn't included in others. We even get praise now > and then, always astonishing in a feedback system. > > Until the last few months, I responded to most feedback directly, with one > of the other Eureka designers responding if I was out of town, unless a > database-specific issue was better handled by our database managers. Now, > the RLG Information Center is the first line of response, although--since > most feedback now involves database issues--quite a few wind up with the > database managers. Now, as then, we try to reply to every message that has > a valid email address--frequently within half a day or less, which always > seems to startle users. > > I will say that: > (a) the mechanism works, > (b) the level of feedback has never been onerous--for us, typically about > one a day for a system that sees around 100,000+ searches a week, > (c) we've had fewer than a dozen curse-filled messages in the better part > of a decade, but then we primarily serve colleges and universities, and > (d) easy feedback mechanisms--preferably using a text entry box, NOT a > mailto: link with its nasty invocation of MS Outlook!--make any Web site > more user friendly, as long as the feedback isn't ignored. > > You can try it out (Eureka, that is--feel free to click on Feedback, but > please don't actually send feedback unless there's something you need to > report!) here: > http://www.rlg.org/eureka.html > > -walt crawford, RLG, my own opinions only- > Folks, > > I've received a very interesting plea from a man who uses many library > databases. He would like for libraries to make it easy to report typos > they've discovered in their online databases. He even suggests that the > "hit" page have a link that could be clicked on for this purpose. > > Does anyone make a point of making it easy for patrons to do this kind of > reporting? If so, would you please post your URL so I can see what you've > done? > > Thanks. > > Phalbe Henriksen > Director > Bradford County Public Library > Starke, FL From jeff_eisenberg at yahoo.com Tue Jan 21 12:21:59 2003 From: jeff_eisenberg at yahoo.com (Jeff Eisenberg) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:44 2005 Subject: set web4lib mail digest In-Reply-To: <000901c2c171$28bd8750$6601a8c0@JEFF> Message-ID: <000a01c2c171$9b000450$6601a8c0@JEFF> ---------------------------------------------------------- set web4lib mail digest From drobinson at hwwilson.com Tue Jan 21 12:42:00 2003 From: drobinson at hwwilson.com (Dan Robinson) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] ?making it easy for patrons to report typos in databases Message-ID: <0DBB337BAB6ABA4F8F7772585216794F2D2016@HWWEXCH.hwwilson.com> We provide a feedback form link in Wilsonweb from both our login page and within the Infocenter link. Typos that are reported are passed on to the Editorial units to be fixed. We just need the database, the problem, and an accession number would be helpful too. One caveat, we can't fix typos in our fulltext that were in the article to begin with. We also get reports from the customer services people from the vendors that market our databases, and those are also passed on to the Editorial units for correction. Dan Robinson HW Wilson Company Bronx, NY drobinson@hwwilson.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Phalbe Henriksen [mailto:phenriksen@neflin.org] > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:14 AM > > Folks, > > I've received a very interesting plea from a man who uses > many library > databases. He would like for libraries to make it easy to > report typos > they've discovered in their online databases. He even > suggests that the > "hit" page have a link that could be clicked on for this purpose. > > Does anyone make a point of making it easy for patrons to do > this kind of > reporting? If so, would you please post your URL so I can see > what you've done? > > From raywood at magma.ca Tue Jan 21 13:45:28 2003 From: raywood at magma.ca (Raymond Wood) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: ?making it easy for patrons to report typos in databases In-Reply-To: <1043167208.3e2d77e8a69d3@mail.msln.net> References: <1043167208.3e2d77e8a69d3@mail.msln.net> Message-ID: <20030121184528.GD7894@magma.ca> On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 08:40:20AM -0800, wl-mw@msln.net remarked: > This may be too elementary for this list, but I'd love to know > how to easily make a simple feedback form that works. I looked > at the source code for Walt's Eureka feedback form but I don't > understand the cgi-bin/.pl aspects of it, or the "input type" > addresses. Can anyone help, perhaps off-list? I don't want to > learn another language (beyond HTML and CSS) at the moment -- > I'm just looking for a simple form program. Thanks. > > ~ Molly Wms. > -- > Molly Williams Where do you want the user feedback to go, and by what mechanism? For example, is it sufficient to send user HTML form feedback text via email to a designated staff person? If so, we used to use a (free perl) script called 'FormMail' (going by memory) that would do just that. It was not complicated to set up. Cheers, Raymond From msauers at bcr.org Tue Jan 21 14:50:29 2003 From: msauers at bcr.org (Michael Sauers) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] form to send input to one of several recipients In-Reply-To: <88EC54CFACB723428905850047BAFF9F28AAF8@scdl-exmail.scdl.local> Message-ID: > Who out there knows how to make the form input > go to just one of the four recipients, based on > which the user selects from the list? TIA. I've sent the whole file to Joan since it's behind a password but, for the benefit of others it boils down to the following code: Basically, don't set recipient in a hidden filed. Set it in the dropdown list. -------------------------------------------------- Michael Sauers, Librarian, Trainer & Author Bibliographical Center for Research (BCR) Aurora, CO :: 303-751-6277 x124 :: msauers@bcr.org http://www.bcr.org/~msauers a:visited {display: none} "Power corrupts. PowerPoint corrupts absolutely." -- Edward Tuft _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X & vCards / \ http://arc.pasp.de/ -------------------------------------------------- From LScritch at MAIL.co.washoe.nv.us Tue Jan 21 14:51:47 2003 From: LScritch at MAIL.co.washoe.nv.us (Scritchfield, Larry) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] form to send input to one of several recipients Message-ID: <52D1E8A877040744B1AA562F4AD9192B01772E2E@wcexchange> First, I would highly recommend you use "nms" scripts, not Matt's Form Mail. http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/ The advantages are many, but primarily it's a matter of security and not having your server hijacked by spammers. All you have to do is forget the hidden "recipient" field. Have the "recipient" field one of the select options instead. Larry Scritchfield lscritch@mail.co.washoe.nv.us Internet Services Librarian (775) 327-8349 Washoe County Library System www.washoe.lib.nv.us > -----Original Message----- > From: Joan Graham [SMTP:jgraham@starklibrary.org] > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:38 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] form to send input to one of several recipients > > Dear Folks, > > =20 > > I'm sure it can be done, but so far it's not happening: > > =20 > > For our staff forms section on the library's web site, I need to create > a form for an employee to submit a request for job reclassification. I > have many forms already on our site that use Matt's Form Mail script (on > our host server) to send input to an e-mail recipient. Some of the > forms will send the same input to multiple recipients, using the script > to process the info from the form. > > Now I have a form made, currently for testing at > http://www.stark.lib.oh.us/reclassform.html > > The employee is supposed to fill in the form, and then choose one name > from a scrolling list of four possible e-mail recipients. I have a > hidden field in the form with the e-mail addresses of all four > recipients, but the user is supposed to choose only one from the > scrolling list, and based on his choice, the form is to go to only that > one recipient. I have a Submit button at the end of the form. Presently, > of course, the form works but it insists on going to all the recipients > in the hidden field. > > =20 > > I've made menus in other pages that would cause a user to go to a > certain URL, based on his choice from a pull-down menu, and they all > worked fine, but they didn't involve a form or a cgi script. > > Who out there knows how to make the form input go to just one of the > four recipients, based on which the user selects from the list? TIA. > > =20 > > Joan Graham > > Stark County District Library > > > > > ********************************************************************* > Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, > this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there > to a plain text message. > ********************************************************************* From raywood at magma.ca Tue Jan 21 15:08:19 2003 From: raywood at magma.ca (Raymond Wood) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: form to send input to one of several recipients In-Reply-To: <52D1E8A877040744B1AA562F4AD9192B01772E2E@wcexchange> References: <52D1E8A877040744B1AA562F4AD9192B01772E2E@wcexchange> Message-ID: <20030121200819.GF7894@magma.ca> On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 11:59:32AM -0800, Scritchfield, Larry remarked: > First, I would highly recommend you use "nms" scripts, not > Matt's Form Mail. According to the web site below, apparently 'Matt' does also :) > http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/ > > The advantages are many, but primarily it's a matter of > security and not having your server hijacked by spammers. Really good to know. Thanks for that Larry... Cheers, Raymond From PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU Tue Jan 21 15:36:37 2003 From: PONSLM at UCMAIL.UC.EDU (Pons, Lisa (PONSLM)) Date: Wed May 18 14:15:44 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] form to send input to one of several recipients Message-ID: <9BA6DCC15456CC46894E77233173DD7C82311A@UCMAIL5> if you are using matt's formmail... you can use it for this. In your drop down box, use