From glee at nyls.edu Mon Nov 5 13:31:24 2001 From: glee at nyls.edu (Grace E. Lee) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: Foretres (was IE Lockdown) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3BE66A7C.14503.13D13A@localhost> Dear Charlie: If you open the Fortres program on the terminal, select "Diagnostics" and then look at "Failed file actions" ( I think its called). It is a log which shows which programs have tried to write to the hard drive. It helped us figure out why we couldn't log into westlaw.com. >The library I'm working at just upgraded to Windows 2000 and the >latestFortres. We've been having problems based on figuring out which >applications (such as Adobe Acrobat Reader) need to have access to the write to the hard drive. >You can set that up in Fortres but it may take >awhile to figure out which programs have to be listed in the Fortres >permission set-up. >Charlie Irwin >Simmons College MLIS student ------------------------------------------- Grace E. Lee, Electronic Services Librarian Mendik Library, New York Law School 57 Worth St., NY NY 10013 212-431-2858 email:glee@nyls.edu From aj0386 at wayne.edu Mon Nov 5 11:19:00 2001 From: aj0386 at wayne.edu (Michael C. Piper) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: Problem tracking software and customer support policies and procedures Message-ID: Dear colleagues, DALNET, the Detroit Area Library Network, is developing ways to respond more effectively to inquiries from our 22 member libraries. One strategy we're investigating is problem-tracking software such as Remedy Help Desk (www.remedy.com/solutions/ebis/itsm/datasheets/help_desk.htm). Do any list members have experience with applications such as this? We're also looking at developing policies and procedures for our customer service operation. Library consortium colleagues: does your customer support unit have written policies or procedures you can send us? Any help you can provide on these key topics will be appreciated. Thank you. P.S. Posted on multiple lists; please excuse any duplication. Michael Piper, Director Detroit Area Library Network Science and Engineering Library - Room 529 Wayne State University Detroit MI 48202 313/577-4984 313/577-3615 (Fax) mcpiper@wayne.edu From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Mon Nov 5 11:23:26 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: Netscape 6.2 Message-ID: <05b401c16616$7ed05260$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Web4Lib-- For those still tracking Netscape 6.x, 6.2 was released within the last few days. It's built on an 0.9.4 version of Mozilla, so it should be substantially more stable than 6.1's 0.9.2 underpinnings (which were substantially more stable than 6.01, etc.). is the place, or for English-speaking Windows users: . ☮ Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From raywood at magma.ca Mon Nov 5 11:35:42 2001 From: raywood at magma.ca (Raymond Wood) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Problem tracking software and customer support policies and procedures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011105113541.D18080@magma.ca> On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 08:15:44AM -0800, Michael C. Piper remarked: > Dear colleagues, > > DALNET, the Detroit Area Library Network, is developing ways to respond more > effectively to inquiries from our 22 member libraries. > > One strategy we're investigating is problem-tracking software such as Remedy > Help Desk (www.remedy.com/solutions/ebis/itsm/datasheets/help_desk.htm). Do > any list members have experience with applications such as this? There are quite a few free 'help desk' or 'request tracking' apps available for GNU/Linux. See http://freshmeat.net to search them down. (My latest discovery, which may or may not be of interest in this context, is PHProjekt - a very interesting web-based Project Management application. I believe it has a request tracker component also...) Raymond From mwarner at sacramento.lib.ca.us Mon Nov 5 11:59:22 2001 From: mwarner at sacramento.lib.ca.us (MARGO WARNER) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: Internet Information Server 5.0 search help Message-ID: We are using IIS 5.0 with Windows 2000 for our Web server and Dreamweaver Ultra Dev 4 for development. Indexing Service has been turned on and the pages that we want to search have been added to a catalog. When we choose query the catalog, under indexing services, the results are correct. The next step we want to accomplish is adding a search text box to each page of the Web site. The information we have so far is very limited. According to the book we are using, we can either use ASP or a combination of three files to accomplish this task. We are trying to use the three file method (.htm, .idq and .htx). Of course the .htm files is the form portion of the page which prompts the user to enter a search string. The form action = "query.idq" method = "get". The .idq file is supposed to pass the results to the .htx page which formats it for the user. However, we are receiving errors related to the .idq file. Has anyone used this method to set up a search on their Web site? If not have you used the alternate ASP to set up your search with IIS 5.0? Can you recommend any books and or Web sites that will assist us? I am particularly interested in using the .idq method, however ASP solutions are also welcome. Margo Warner Information Systems Analyst Sacramento Public Library mwarner@sacramento.lib.ca.us (916) 264-2894 Margo Warner Information Systems Analyst Sacramento Public Library mwarner@sacramento.lib.ca.us (916) 264-2894 From Andrea.Cheney at USPTO.GOV Mon Nov 5 14:04:05 2001 From: Andrea.Cheney at USPTO.GOV (Andrea.Cheney@USPTO.GOV) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: FW: Article: Re-editing films Message-ID: <8D41CD9393D61B4193D5892E1C455B6C29F785@uspto-is-109.uspto.gov> Hey Web4libers, here is an interesting article that I received via another listserv. It touches on issues that may or may not be of interest to our profession or may to do with that "evil" piece of legislation the DMCA. Andrea Cheney Electronic Resources Librarian United States Patent and Trademark Office Scientific and Technical Information Center Information Access and Management Branch 2021 S. Clark Place Crystal Plaza 3, Suite 2C06 Arlington, VA 22202 703-308-6099\fax: 3485 andrea.cheney@uspto.gov "The Phantom Edit" How one "Star Wars" fan nearly fixed the "Episode 1" disaster, and why George Lucas is indirectly stoking another kind of digital revolution. http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2001/11/05/phantom_edit/index.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com From gbarkovi at bpl.burnaby.bc.ca Mon Nov 5 15:08:04 2001 From: gbarkovi at bpl.burnaby.bc.ca (gbarkovi@bpl.burnaby.bc.ca) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: IE/Netscape cache riddle Message-ID: <200111052008.fA5K85G04330@rm-rstar.sfu.ca> We're having a cache problem that no one, including the vendor of our library system (epixtech), has been able to figure out. Patron records should be available through our website but we've had to turn this function off because it is possible for someone to walk up to a terminal in the library, hit the 'Back' button and back into someone else's personal information or whatever else a previous patron viewed. There is a 'logout' command that is supposed to clear the cache, and it works everywhere, apparently, except in the library. That is, it works fine for remote users. Obviously, the problem is with how the browser (IE 5.5 or 6.0) is interacting with our network. However we have discovered that Netscape 4.7 and probably other versions work fine. Does anyone have an idea of what this could be? Why would Netscape be able to clear its cache but IE only be able to do so outside of our network? What should we be looking for? This problem has gone on for several months so any tips, hunches, would be greatly appreciated. Greg Barkovich/Librarian/Burnaby Public library Phone: (604) 436-5401 Fax:(604) 436-9087 / 6100 Willingdon Ave. Burnaby,B.C. V5H 4N5 The contents of this message may not necessarily reflect the position of Burnaby Public Library. If you have concerns about this message, please e-mail bpl@bpl.burnaby.bc.ca. From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Mon Nov 5 15:26:24 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IE/Netscape cache riddle References: <200111052008.fA5K85G04330@rm-rstar.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <00d601c16638$6c935080$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> > > Does anyone have an idea of what this could be? Why would Netscape be able > to clear its cache but IE only be able to do so outside of our network? What > should we be looking for? > Get epixtech to document exactly what cache-related HTTP headers they're sending. IMO, it isn't your problem until they can demonstrate that they are doing what they should be doing. It they're only including a meta http-equiv tag in the page, they aren't doing what they should. To control any intermediary caches, you need to have this in the headers. A "logout command" doesn't mean anything in terms of browser or intermediary caches. You may want to expand your circle of tested browsers. What does Opera do, what does Mozilla do, what does Lynx do? What happens if you twiddle each browser's cache settings from one extreme to the other? Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From LuckDL at apsu.edu Mon Nov 5 16:59:00 2001 From: LuckDL at apsu.edu (Luck, Deanne) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: domain name renewal Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE407769@EXCHANGE> We just got a renewal notice for our state association's domain name, which I know is very important to pay! However, I registered our domain in 1998 with Network Solutions, and now the bill is coming from VeriSign. I know the whole registration structure has changed, but how do I know this is the right company to pay? It's not listed on the ICANN accredited registrars list. Were we notified (and it was lost in the association bureaucracy) who took over as our registrar? DeAnne Luck Electronic Resources Librarian Austin Peay State University LuckDL@apsu.edu From jodi at waikato.ac.nz Mon Nov 5 17:49:23 2001 From: jodi at waikato.ac.nz (Jodi Thomson) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] domain name renewal Message-ID: <00CE7EEB5F86154FAF4CBC8DE5907BB8C8E034@its-e2k1.waikato.ac.nz> My suggestion would be to contact Network Solutions to find out. Verisign is also listed on InterNIC's website at http://www.internic.com/whois.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jodi W. Thomson (Mr) A+, MCP - Computer Systems Consultant Waikato University Library - Computing Operations Group Ph: +64 7 838 4323 email: jodi@waikato.ac.nz "Sorry, my brain won't engage without a coffee klatch" > -----Original Message----- > From: Luck, Deanne [mailto:LuckDL@apsu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2001 11:14 > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] domain name renewal > > > We just got a renewal notice for our state association's > domain name, which > I know is very important to pay! However, I registered our > domain in 1998 > with Network Solutions, and now the bill is coming from > VeriSign. I know > the whole registration structure has changed, but how do I > know this is the > right company to pay? It's not listed on the ICANN > accredited registrars > list. Were we notified (and it was lost in the association > bureaucracy) who > took over as our registrar? > > DeAnne Luck > Electronic Resources Librarian > Austin Peay State University > LuckDL@apsu.edu > > From brannocl at hbpl.org Mon Nov 5 18:39:33 2001 From: brannocl at hbpl.org (Lane Brannock) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] domain name renewal References: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE407769@EXCHANGE> Message-ID: <002101c16653$1f5530c0$46fea8c0@LIBRARY> VeriSign has bought Network Solutions so now VeriSign takes care of business. -- Lane Brannock, MCP Huntington Beach Public Library (714) 536-5215 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luck, Deanne" > We just got a renewal notice for our state association's domain name, which > I know is very important to pay! However, I registered our domain in 1998 > with Network Solutions, and now the bill is coming from VeriSign. I know > the whole registration structure has changed, but how do I know this is the > right company to pay? It's not listed on the ICANN accredited registrars > list. Were we notified (and it was lost in the association bureaucracy) who > took over as our registrar? > > DeAnne Luck > Electronic Resources Librarian > Austin Peay State University > LuckDL@apsu.edu From DobbsA at apsu.edu Mon Nov 5 19:02:57 2001 From: DobbsA at apsu.edu (Dobbs, Aaron) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] domain name renewal Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE91EAB2@EXCHANGE> fyi, this is not a plug (alright, so it is), I have no financial interest in this company... When I renewed my domain names I switched registrars to BuyDomains.com http://www.buydomains.com for $16.00 apiece ('cause I'm cheap). My experience with buydomains has been positive; making changes to the domain settings (dns servers, registrants, &c) has been easy. (even painless) I would recommend going with them to 1. save a buck or nineteen 2. better, quicker control of domain settings, & 3. friendly interface/ease of use . -Aaron :-)' -----Original Message----- From: Luck, Deanne [mailto:LuckDL@apsu.edu] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 4:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] domain name renewal We just got a renewal notice for our state association's domain name, which I know is very important to pay! However, I registered our domain in 1998 with Network Solutions, and now the bill is coming from VeriSign. I know the whole registration structure has changed, but how do I know this is the right company to pay? It's not listed on the ICANN accredited registrars list. Were we notified (and it was lost in the association bureaucracy) who took over as our registrar? DeAnne Luck Electronic Resources Librarian Austin Peay State University LuckDL@apsu.edu From lbspodic at ust.hk Tue Nov 6 01:51:00 2001 From: lbspodic at ust.hk (Mr. Edward Spodick) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:58 2005 Subject: Unable to reach any Melvyl or CDLib web or telnet sites In-Reply-To: <004101c164a1$09b8c1e0$021c1ec6@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: I was wondering if anyone else out there is having problems accessing the Web and and Telnet sites for the California Digital Library and/or Melvyl? The domain name servers for about half of the Universities in Hong Kong no longer recognize any of their addresses - this has been going on for about a week now and our computer center indicates that the problem is not with local configuration. I am not at all sure I agree with them... Sites 'gone missing' include: http://www.melvyl.ucop.edu/ http://www.cdlib.org/ melvyl.ucop.org (telnet) -Edward Spodick, HKUST lbspodic@ust.hk From Theo.vanVeen at kb.nl Tue Nov 6 05:27:05 2001 From: Theo.vanVeen at kb.nl (Theo van Veen) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: Betr.: [WEB4LIB] Cookie-pusher for DOI resolution Message-ID: The most ideal way of using the OpenUrl mechanism would be the following. As soon as a user finds metadata somewhere on whatever site containing OpenUrl's, he wants the OpenUrl's automatically pointing to his own preferred service component. Therefore the browser should recognize the OpenUrl's and automatically substitute the user's base-url. Such a mechanism does not exist (yet). A mechanism that comes very close to this and is very easy to implement 1) offers the user the ability to fill in his base-url when presenting OpenUrl's, 2) sets the base-url in a cookie by means of javascript and 3) compute the OpenUrl's on the fly also by means of javascript. This does not require the server to interprete the cookie, it is not restricted to a set of predefined OpenUrl-servers and it does not require the server to have knowledge about the users persmissions, as the user can specify his own base-url. Yes, it requires cookies and yes, it requires Javascript. As soon as browsers allow global variables (local with respect to the user but global with respect to different websites) to be used within Javascript (may this exists already) the cookie mechanism can be replaced by setting such a variable. What is important is that everyone uses the same mechanism to set the OpenUrl to the users base-url and I would strongly suggest the mechanism described above (unless there are more convenient mechanisms). See also http://www.kb.nl/persons/theo . In this example the base-url is considered to point to a personal link page but this can also be any other OpenUrl resolver. Theo van Veen >>> "Thomas Dowling" 03-11-01 21:00 >>> I have received a couple of messages about my comments on the cookie-pusher solution to appropriate copy resolution of DOIs. Here's a fuller articulation of my points. I believe that the cookie pusher will prove inadequate for many users. However, the consensus of a group of organizations who worked on this problem over the last year was that no better solution will be available in the foreseeable future. The cookie pusher is a CGI script that lives at www.doi.org. Its function is to set a cookie within the doi.org domain and issue an HTTP Location header sending the browser to a URL specified in its query string. HTTP requests received by the global DOI resolver at dx.doi.org will note the presence of this cookie; if it's present, the resolver will redirect users to a local DOI resolver determined from the value of the cookie. The expected implementation is that a page on, say, www.ohiolink.edu, would include an element whose src attribute was actually the cookie pusher script called, so as to redirect the browser to an image back on www.ohiolink.edu. The expected benefit of doing this is that a database vendor can create DOI-based outbound links to citations without having to worry about where any user's resolver might live. Those links all go to dx.doi.org, which determines whether to give users the global resolution service to or redirect them to a local service. My issues with this are: Any user whose path to the database avoids the page(s) with the cookie pusher image will not get the cookie set under any circumstances. This includes anyone following a bookmark to the database. They will therefore get the global resolution service rather than your carefully tailored local service. Sites have to choose carefully on how many pages to put the cookie pusher image. Too few, and you increase the number of users who won't get the cookie set. Too many, and the effect of continually re-running the script might be a perception that your site is slow. This "page from one site, image and cookie from another" trick (third-party cookies) has been widely used by commercial traffic monitoring companies. Because of the privacy issues involved with this, most cookie management software--including what's built into Netscape 6.1 and IE6--disables this by default. This could be avoided by actually linking to the cookie pusher rather than insinuating it into an img, but IMO this exacerbates the problem of deciding where users should see that link. The image-based cookie will not be set under any circumstances if: The browser is not set to show images. The browser is set to disallow all cookies. The browser is set to allow cookies only from a set of servers that does not include www.doi.org. The browser, or cookie management software, or firewall is set to disallow third party cookies. OR the browser does not go to a cookie-pushing page before going to services with DOI-based links to dx.doi.org. But again, there's no better solution right now to identify your users to the global DOI resolver. That's why we will increasingly tell vendors that straight DOI links are a very minimal level of service (just one step better than hard-wired links to publisher sites). The preferred solution for licensed services will be to include an OpenURL resolver's base URL in the customer profile information. Thomas Dowling Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From richard at goerwitz.com Tue Nov 6 07:58:32 2001 From: richard at goerwitz.com (Richard L. Goerwitz III) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Betr.: Cookie-pusher for DOI resolution References: Message-ID: <3BE7DE78.387155C8@Goerwitz.COM> Theo van Veen wrote, regarding an OpenURL resolving mechanism that: > 1) offers the user the ability to fill in his base-url when presenting OpenUrls, > 2) sets the base-url in a cookie by means of javascript and > 3) compute the OpenUrl's on the fly also by means of javascript. This system has several unfortunate elements, which you yourself note. First off, it uses cookies. Some users turn cookies off. Others (who use privacy enhancing software) block them. See Thomas Dowling's original list of objections to cookie-based schemes. Yes, he was speaking more about cookie pushing mechanisms than you were (you're really talking more about a personal link page or thin portal). But most of his remarks apply to the sys- tem you're proposing. Secondly, it requires user intervention. This intervention has to to come in the form of either clicking on an image or link (which sets a third-party cookie, and which is therefore going to be dis- allowed, by default, by recent browsers). Otherwise, the inter- vention must come in the form of a menu presented by the resolver, which is simply too obtrusive. How many patrons know or care what their base URL is? Note also that the intervention is necessary for every machine the user uses. Undoing or changing settings is an equally nasty affair. Thirdly, your solution utilizes JavaScript, which has been a re- peated source of security problems, and which again some users simply turn off. JavaScript and cookies will also make things difficult for auto- mated systems. There are a lot of reasons to want to automate the retrieval of certain URLs. My contention is that people who are suggesting cookie-pusher schemes and/or personal link pages aren't really thinking of what the average patron is interested in and/or capable of. Nor are they thinking of automated systems. We need an OpenURL mechanism that's transparent (requiring intervention only if the user cares to override a default), that requires no cookies, and requires no JavaScript - although it may offer fallbacks or other secondary interfaces that do so. If there is to be a central OpenURL site redirection mechanism it can't be a heavyweight affair from the client's perspective. Most systems I've seen confuse behaviors proper to personal link pages or thin portals with functions properly reserved for a resolver. The resolver should be lean and built to fall back to cookies only if there's no other choice (or if the user really feels compelled to tweak the behavior of the system). (I realize some people will claim that the DOI "proxy" [as they call it] fits my specifications perfectly - and that might to some extent be true. Unfortunately, the DOI resolution mechanism is controlled by publishers, and currently affords little opportunity for local tailoring. The point of OpenURLs is that they don't hardcode in identifiers that essentially "source route" the reso- lution process; they, rather, allow libraries to handle resolution in terms that suit local resources and collections. There seems to be a subtle push-and-shove going on between libraries and publishers right now to determine who will really control the process of re- solving reference links. Some publishers, at the very least, want a way to opt out of local resolution, and to force specific resolu- tion pathways they control. Some libraries want total local con- trol, even if that means bearing an immense maintenance burden. Library automation vendors, realizing that the libraries' desire for control exceeds their capacity to manage the resources needed to do so, want to sell them packages and services that help them get the job done. I don't think that libraries in particular know what they're getting into.) Anyway, if you haven't already, take a look at my draft paper, which has gotten me some heated mail, both pro and con: http://www.goerwitz.com:31265/papers/ucla/ Please feel free to post responses or write me scathing letters, as many already have ;-). -- Richard Goerwitz richard@Goerwitz.COM tel: 401 438 8978 From suekamm at mindspring.com Tue Nov 6 10:22:21 2001 From: suekamm at mindspring.com (Sue Kamm) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Unable to reach any Melvyl or CDLib web or telnet sites References: Message-ID: <3BE8002D.AAE9CA2D@mindspring.com> When I tried http://melvyl.ucop.edu, I was asked for a user name and password. I had no problems getting into http://www.cdlib.org/; have you asked your ISP if the problem is on their end? -- Your friendly CyberGoddess and ALA Councilor-at-Large, Sue Kamm Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000 email: suekamm@mindspring.com Visit my web page: http://suekamm.home.mindspring.com/index.htm "Good is not good when better is expected." -- Vin Scully From lytlea at oclc.org Tue Nov 6 10:24:13 2001 From: lytlea at oclc.org (Lytle,Amy) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: REMINDER: Register now for "Library Management in the Knowledge Age" Message-ID: [Widely cross-posted with apologies. Please redistribute as appropriate. Thank you!] It's not too late to register for "Library Management in the Knowledge Age: An Introduction for 1st-Time & Aspiring Managers" presented by the Missouri Library Network Corporation (MLNC) and the OCLC Institute. Date: November 28-29, 2001 Location: Holiday Inn Southwest & Viking Conference Center, St. Louis, MO Details and Registration: Instructors: W. David Penniman, Dean, School of Informatics, University of Buffalo and Keith Russell, Coordinator of Employee Development, University of Kansas Seminar Description: Perfect for those new to management and supervision as well as those who wish to brush up on their skills, this seminar examines: -Issues and challenges facing today's library leaders -The ways management in a library setting differ from management in a business setting -The skills and learnings that define an effective leader at any level In addition, this two-day course offers useful tools for managing -Workflow -Other people -The work of a unit or section The seminar combines theory and practical exercises to help participants develop and refine leadership and management skills. Kudos from past Library Management seminars: --I think it was a really great workshop! Thank you. The only thing is that it is so interesting that we would like this workshop to be almost the double time! But it was well-balanced between all these subjects. --Entire program seemed like it could be a fast track MBA program. Activities were practical and non-threatening; very refreshing. Now I need to begin the process and bootstrap myself in the learning and growing mode. The mission statement and time management sessions was very useful although I must admit to being resistant to the process. It seemed that each section could be expanded to a full day or two program. Overall, this was a very useful program and very energizing. For more information or if you have questions, please contact Amy Lytle, OCLC Institute Event Coordinator, via e-mail at mailto:lytlea@oclc.org or by phone at (800) 848-5878 x 5212. Thank you. ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From Bennett at robert-morris.edu Tue Nov 6 10:46:35 2001 From: Bennett at robert-morris.edu (David Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: Issues with DeskFlag software? Message-ID: Several employees in the library installed the free DeskFlag software from Tiger Technologies (http://www.deskflag.com) version 1.0.3. I've noticed several new problems and glitches with those PCs and I wondered what other experiences have been. The deskflag software is not a screensaver, it waves a flag in the right hand corner of the screen. I've read through the FAQ at http://www.deskflag.com/faq.html and it says it can take up to 2.1 MB of memory resources and less than 4% of the processor time. I have been unable to find any third party reviews that are critical. I hate to be the Grinch, but I feel this software introduces more problems than it is worth. Please let me know if the deskflag software is introducing any glitches at your institution. ***************************************************** David Bennett (bennett@robert-morris.edu) Robert Morris College 881 Narrows Run Road Moon Township, PA 15108 (412) 262-8474 voice (412) 262-4049 fax ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From iachan at sccd.ctc.edu Tue Nov 6 11:21:20 2001 From: iachan at sccd.ctc.edu (Chan, Ian) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: Web Hosting Message-ID: I am preparing a report, on choosing a webhost, to our faculty union. My list includes: Hostway, Cwihosting, Dreamhost, & Experthost. Please offer comments on your experience with the above or with other shared hosting services. Thanks! Ian Chan Librarian Seattle Central Community College (206) 587-6336 http://www.seattlecentral.org/faculty/iachan/ http://dept.sccd.ctc.edu/cclib/ From rhiebert at sd6.bc.ca Tue Nov 6 11:51:44 2001 From: rhiebert at sd6.bc.ca (rhiebert@sd6.bc.ca) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: Printer auditing software Message-ID: <87256AFC.005D8D94.00@mail.sd6.bc.ca> Hello, Although I work in a small high school with a few networked (NT) printers, getting students to pay for printing is a hassle, so I am considering software that will monitor student printing and disable their printing rights when they have exceeded their allotment. First, is anyone using software like this with which they are pleased? Second, I have found a company selling a product called PrintControl (at: http://www.northern.net/printControl/). Does anyone have any experience with this product? Regards, Robert Robert Hiebert Librarian, Golden Secondary School www.gsslibrary.net Fax: 250 344 7116 library@gsslibrary.net From goodeld at wou.edu Tue Nov 6 12:34:52 2001 From: goodeld at wou.edu (Dale Goodell - WOU Library) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Printer auditing software In-Reply-To: <87256AFC.005D8D94.00@mail.sd6.bc.ca> Message-ID: <3BE7AEBD.18880.67A560@localhost> Another product worthy of consideration is PCounter ( http://www.pcounter.com ) We run this, in cooperation with our University Computing Services, on our campus Novell network, so I don't know about NT. ----Dale > Although I work in a small high school with a few networked (NT) printers, > getting students to pay for printing is a hassle, so I am considering software > that will monitor student printing and disable their printing rights when they > have exceeded their allotment. > > First, is anyone using software like this with which they are pleased? > > Second, I have found a company selling a product called PrintControl (at: > http://www.northern.net/printControl/). Does anyone have any experience with > this product? ================================================================== Dale E. Goodell Information Technology Consultant Computer Services Unit Western Oregon University Library Monmouth, OR 97361 E-mail: goodeld@wou.edu Voice: 503/838-8891 Fax: 503/838-8399 From dlords at library.utah.edu Tue Nov 6 12:52:43 2001 From: dlords at library.utah.edu (Debbie Lords) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Printer auditing software In-Reply-To: <3BE7AEBD.18880.67A560@localhost> Message-ID: We run PCounter on Windows 2000. It also works on NT 4.0. Services need restarting from time to time. Takes care of both PCs and Macs, although where it reports the number of pages for PCs, it does not report the number of pages for Macs. We also use QControl to give non-administrative people access to release jobs. We are not yet fully automated. -- Debbie _,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_ Debra Lords If at first dlords@library.utah.edu you do succeed, 801-585-9810 try to not look Campus Student Computing Labs astonished. University of Utah -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Dale Goodell - WOU Library Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Printer auditing software Another product worthy of consideration is PCounter ( http://www.pcounter.com ) We run this, in cooperation with our University Computing Services, on our campus Novell network, so I don't know about NT. ----Dale > Although I work in a small high school with a few networked (NT) printers, > getting students to pay for printing is a hassle, so I am considering software > that will monitor student printing and disable their printing rights when they > have exceeded their allotment. > > First, is anyone using software like this with which they are pleased? > > Second, I have found a company selling a product called PrintControl (at: > http://www.northern.net/printControl/). Does anyone have any experience with > this product? ================================================================== Dale E. Goodell Information Technology Consultant Computer Services Unit Western Oregon University Library Monmouth, OR 97361 E-mail: goodeld@wou.edu Voice: 503/838-8891 Fax: 503/838-8399 From calumet at Mindspring.com Tue Nov 6 13:15:53 2001 From: calumet at Mindspring.com (Tara Calishain) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: Update to ResearchBuzz 9/11 Resources Site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011106131503.021b06b0@pop.mindspring.com> I have updated the ResearchBuzz 9/11 Resources site. First of all I moved it across several pages since it was getting extensive. Second, I installed a search engine. Third, I added a couple of new categories to reflect the updated situation and am adding more resources over time (I don't have a resource count; I know that the state-level US government pages resource page has over 90 URLs by itself, but that's all I know.) Fourth, I have added a new resources page at http://www.researchbuzz.com/911/newsources.html .) The categories are as follows (each category has its own page. There are a few sub-categories, but they are not listed here): Informative Phone Numbers and Victim Information Donations Scheduling Forums Weblogs Pictures Memorials Opinions/Editorial News Coverage Company Statements Rumors, Hoaxes, and Scams Rescue and Investigation Tower and Building Information Information for Parents Meta-Reference Miscellaneous Reference International Information US Government Reference Maps and Geographic Information Terrorism War The search engine I'm using is from FreeFind. Each item on a page has its own listing, so when you search for "memorial" you do not get an entire page but rather several different listings. Due to an error in the way I implemented some of the coding, some of the listings have strange formatting. I am working to remedy this. I welcome new resources and corrections to current listings. Please send them to updates@researchbuzz.com . I hope you find the updated resource useful. Thanks, Tara Calishain ResearchBuzz.com From dfk at snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu Tue Nov 6 11:50:35 2001 From: dfk at snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu (Dan Kissane) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Issues with DeskFlag software? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Perhaps if people want a flag on their desktop, they ought to put a flag on their desktop? On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, David Bennett wrote: > Several employees in the library installed the free DeskFlag software from Tiger Technologies (http://www.deskflag.com) version 1.0.3. I've noticed several new problems and glitches with those PCs and I wondered what other experiences have been. > > The deskflag software is not a screensaver, it waves a flag in the right hand corner of the screen. > > I've read through the FAQ at http://www.deskflag.com/faq.html and it says it can take up to 2.1 MB of memory resources and less than 4% of the processor time. I have been unable to find any third party reviews that are critical. > > I hate to be the Grinch, but I feel this software introduces more problems than it is worth. Please let me know if the deskflag software is introducing any glitches at your institution. > > ***************************************************** > David Bennett (bennett@robert-morris.edu) > Robert Morris College > 881 Narrows Run Road > Moon Township, PA 15108 > (412) 262-8474 voice > (412) 262-4049 fax > > > > ********************************************************************* > Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, > this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there > to a plain text message. > ********************************************************************* > Dan Kissane Reference Librarian SUNY College at Oneonta Oneonta, NY 13820 dfk@oneonta.edu personal web site: www.dmcom.net/dkissane From drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU Tue Nov 6 15:12:12 2001 From: drewwe at MORRISVILLE.EDU (Drew, Bill) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Issues with DeskFlag software? Message-ID: <0611948DE8E4D41192B30004AC4C811B41B8EA@mail1.morrisville.edu> I have it running on my laptop right now. I have not seen a single glitch yet. Bill Drew From grace.agnew at library.gatech.edu Tue Nov 6 18:36:00 2001 From: grace.agnew at library.gatech.edu (Grace Agnew) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: Announcement: Presentations from Managing Digital Video Content Workshop available Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011106183457.05acbb50@libvid2.library.gatech.edu> Everyone, Presentations from the August two-day conference, Managing Digital Video Content, with keynote speakers Clifford Lynch and Jane Hunter, are available on the ViDe website. Powerpoint presentations and RealVideo/RealPresenter files are available as well as a user's guide to the ViDe Dublin Core application profile for digital video (in PDF). Presentations focus on MPEG-7, Dublin Core, developing and applying metadata, digital rights management metadata, the Open Archives Initiative. The website is: http://www.vide.net/conferences/ A database template in MS Access 2000 for applying the Dublin Core application profile for digital video is available at: http://www.library.gatech.edu/vide/videoaccess/reportsdocuments.htm in the Reports section. Please contact Grace Agnew, ViDe Video Access Working Group Chair, with any questions or comments, particularly regarding the Dublin Core application profile for digital video. Thank you. Grace Agnew ******************************************************************* Grace Agnew Assistant Director for Systems and Technical Services Georgia Tech Library (404) 894-8932 (404) 894-6084 (fax) mailto:grace.agnew@library.gatech.edu ****************************************************************** ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From lbspodic at ust.hk Tue Nov 6 18:58:37 2001 From: lbspodic at ust.hk (Mr. Edward Spodick) Date: Wed May 18 14:20:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Unable to reach any Melvyl or CDLib web or telnet sites In-Reply-To: <3BE8002D.AAE9CA2D@mindspring.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Sue Kamm wrote: > I had no problems getting into http://www.cdlib.org/; have you asked > your ISP if the problem is on their end? Our ISP is the University computer center, and the joint university computing network. Because this problem is found in half the Universities here, they feel it is likely that the problem originates fromt he source. I am not hearing from anyone outside HK that they see a problem, so I can go back to them and help work toward a more functional resolution. Thanks, From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Thu Nov 1 08:10:01 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: Web4Lib Frequently Asked Questions List Nov 01 Message-ID: <200111011310.fA1DA1i18431@ohiolink.ohiolink.edu> WEB4LIB FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS November 01, 2001 This is the current set of Frequently Asked Questions (or, perhaps, Frequently Needed Answers) for the Web4Lib mailing list. Questions in this message: How do I unsubscribe from Web4Lib? What help is available if the listserv won't do what I want? Where are the list's archives? Where is its Web site? 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From bernies at uillinois.edu Thu Nov 1 11:44:47 2001 From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients Message-ID: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB049B50D8@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> The URL for Joyce's article is: http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA1 77736 Or, alternatively, go to Library Journal's Web page (http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/) and scroll down the page and click on "netConnect" (in the far left column under "Resources"). It's the Fall 2001 issue. Bernie Sloan -----Original Message----- From: Raymond Wood [mailto:raywood@magma.ca] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 06:01:57AM -0800, Joyce M. Latham imagined: > I see the NetConnect article on thin clients is out, and I want to thank > everybody who helped, even if you ended up edited out! url? Raymond -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable" -- Windows 95 BSOD ("Blue Screen of Death") <-- now unsupported by M$ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From chhobbs at cdrewu.edu Thu Nov 1 12:14:02 2001 From: chhobbs at cdrewu.edu (Charles P. Hobbs) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: DMCA going too far??? References: <200111011310.fA1DA1i18431@ohiolink.ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <3BE182D9.B5707717@cdrewu.edu> > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-000086726nov01.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines% Sony Corp. is using a controversial U.S. law aimed at protecting intellectual property to pull the plug on a Web site that helps owners of Aibo, Sony's popular and pricey robotic pet, teach their electronic dogs new tricks. Aibo owners are outraged, and hundreds have vowed to stop buying Sony products altogether until the company backs off. Sony has sold more than 100,000 Aibos worldwide since 1999, at prices ranging from $800 to $3,000. The dogs have spawned a community of enthusiasts who fuss over the mechanical marvels as if they were real canines. -- Charles P. Hobbs King Drew Health Science Library http://www.cdrewu.edu/kdhsl From raywood at magma.ca Thu Nov 1 13:17:53 2001 From: raywood at magma.ca (Raymond Wood) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients In-Reply-To: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB049B50D8@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> References: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB049B50D8@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <20011101131753.D721@magma.ca> On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 09:15:07AM -0800, Sloan, Bernie remarked: > > The URL for Joyce's article is: > > http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA1 > 77736 > > Or, alternatively, go to Library Journal's Web page > (http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/) and scroll down the > page and click on "netConnect" (in the far left column under > "Resources"). It's the Fall 2001 issue. Thanks Bernie. Unfortunately I tried to 'Register' to the site (not by choice mind you), but was unable to access the article for some reason -- oh well... I was interested to see what the author might say about the Linux Terminal Project (going by memory with that title). Thanks anyway, Raymond From raywood at magma.ca Thu Nov 1 13:20:06 2001 From: raywood at magma.ca (Raymond Wood) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] DMCA going too far??? In-Reply-To: <3BE182D9.B5707717@cdrewu.edu> References: <3BE182D9.B5707717@cdrewu.edu> Message-ID: <20011101132006.E721@magma.ca> On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 10:05:30AM -0800, Charles P. Hobbs remarked: > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-000086726nov01.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines% > > Sony Corp. is using a controversial U.S. law aimed at > protecting intellectual property to pull the plug on a Web > site that helps owners of Aibo, Sony's popular and pricey > robotic pet, teach their electronic dogs new tricks. This should be no surprise (though it is good to know). This is exactly what the DMCA is for in the first place. Raymond From creechj at mumbly.lib.cwu.edu Thu Nov 1 13:31:07 2001 From: creechj at mumbly.lib.cwu.edu (John Creech) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients In-Reply-To: <20011101131753.D721@magma.ca> Message-ID: > I was interested to see what the author might say about the > Linux Terminal Project (going by memory with that title). Linux Terminal Server Project - http://www.ltsp.org John Creech Electronic Resources & Systems Librarian Central Washington University Library 400 E. 8th Ave. | Ellensburg, WA 98926 | office - 509-963-1081 || fax - 509-963-3684 creechj@www.lib.cwu.edu From PAUL.GRAY at TCCD.NET Thu Nov 1 13:32:08 2001 From: PAUL.GRAY at TCCD.NET (GRAY, PAUL) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] DMCA going too far??? Message-ID: <2751DDC83AB5D211A0930090272ABEED012FF86D@EXCHANGE_NE> -----Original Message----- From: Charles P. Hobbs [mailto:chhobbs@cdrewu.edu] . . . The dogs have spawned a community of enthusiasts who fuss over the mechanical marvels as if they were real canines. Well -- Legal issues aside -- It sounds like some of these people need to get a life -- or at least psychological counseling -- Just my .02 I realize chat rooms are supposed to replace human contact - and interactive media is supposed to replace shopping malls and theatres ---- but a world where even pets are replaced by machines is NOT a world I would care to live in. PHG From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Thu Nov 1 13:40:23 2001 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients References: <8DD31AE07607D511B1E70002B31FCB049B50D8@eagle.pb.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <3BE19717.73C78ECA@tln.lib.mi.us> Can someone remind me why you need to register for this site? I have to admit that there have been times that I've either wanted to view or link to articles from Library Journal but I've never gone through the registration process. I guess it turned me off having to deal with that at a library site with no clear reason for them collecting that information. Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI "Sloan, Bernie" wrote: > The URL for Joyce's article is: > > http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA1 > 77736 > > Or, alternatively, go to Library Journal's Web page > (http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/) and scroll down the page and click > on "netConnect" (in the far left column under "Resources"). It's the Fall > 2001 issue. > > Bernie Sloan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond Wood [mailto:raywood@magma.ca] > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:11 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 06:01:57AM -0800, Joyce M. Latham imagined: > > I see the NetConnect article on thin clients is out, and I want to thank > > everybody who helped, even if you ended up edited out! > > url? > > Raymond > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > "If you continue running Windows, your system may become unstable" > -- Windows 95 BSOD ("Blue Screen of Death") <-- now unsupported by M$ > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From DobbsA at apsu.edu Thu Nov 1 13:58:26 2001 From: DobbsA at apsu.edu (Dobbs, Aaron) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: DMCA going too far??? Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE91EA97@EXCHANGE> DMCA, from the Latin "...to scr*w the little guy out of stuff" e.g.: 1. more money. 2. any possibility of enjoyment that doesn't come prepackaged. 3. convenience. 4. their lawfully given right to "...pursuit of happiness..." Maybe enough "little guy"s & "little guy" groups will: 1. see the iceberg that the DMCA really is 2. encourage the captains (lawmakers) to change course 3. get motivated enough to get the DMCA repealed -Pollyanna :-)' (no offense to people named Pollyanna, just referring to the storybook character) -----Original Message----- From: Raymond Wood [mailto:raywood@magma.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 12:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: DMCA going too far??? On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 10:05:30AM -0800, Charles P. Hobbs remarked: > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-000086726nov01.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines% > > Sony Corp. is using a controversial U.S. law aimed at > protecting intellectual property to pull the plug on a Web > site that helps owners of Aibo, Sony's popular and pricey > robotic pet, teach their electronic dogs new tricks. This should be no surprise (though it is good to know). This is exactly what the DMCA is for in the first place. Raymond From creechj at mumbly.lib.cwu.edu Thu Nov 1 14:06:38 2001 From: creechj at mumbly.lib.cwu.edu (John Creech) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients In-Reply-To: <3BE19717.73C78ECA@tln.lib.mi.us> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Andrew Mutch wrote: > Can someone remind me why you need to register for this site? I have to admit > that there have been times that I've either wanted to view or link to articles > from Library Journal but I've never gone through the registration process. I > guess it turned me off having to deal with that at a library site with no clear > reason for them collecting that information. Andrew, "you know the best things in life are free, but you can give 'em to the birds and bees, now give me M-O-N-E-Y." Ok fine; it's just a guess, but it's got a good beat and I can dance to it..." John Creech Electronic Resources & Systems Librarian Central Washington University Library 400 E. 8th Ave. | Ellensburg, WA 98926 | office - 509-963-1081 || fax - 509-963-3684 creechj@www.lib.cwu.edu From GEM at CDRH.FDA.GOV Thu Nov 1 14:14:03 2001 From: GEM at CDRH.FDA.GOV (Masters, Gary E) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: DMCA going too far??? Message-ID: DMCA was not sold this way. Gary Gary E. Masters Librarian (Systems) CDRH - FDA (301) 827-6893 -----Original Message----- From: Raymond Wood [SMTP:raywood@magma.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: DMCA going too far??? On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 10:05:30AM -0800, Charles P. Hobbs remarked: > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-000086726nov01.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines% > > Sony Corp. is using a controversial U.S. law aimed at > protecting intellectual property to pull the plug on a Web > site that helps owners of Aibo, Sony's popular and pricey > robotic pet, teach their electronic dogs new tricks. This should be no surprise (though it is good to know). This is exactly what the DMCA is for in the first place. Raymond From BentGa at wwc.edu Thu Nov 1 14:32:25 2001 From: BentGa at wwc.edu (Gary Benton) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients Message-ID: I don't like to have to register as well. I tried to register, but it didn't work for me either. Gary Benton Library Systems Technician Walla Walla College >>> Raymond Wood 11/01/01 10:17AM >>> On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 09:15:07AM -0800, Sloan, Bernie remarked: > > The URL for Joyce's article is: > > http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA1 > 77736 > > Or, alternatively, go to Library Journal's Web page > (http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/) and scroll down the > page and click on "netConnect" (in the far left column under > "Resources"). It's the Fall 2001 issue. Thanks Bernie. Unfortunately I tried to 'Register' to the site (not by choice mind you), but was unable to access the article for some reason -- oh well... I was interested to see what the author might say about the Linux Terminal Project (going by memory with that title). Thanks anyway, Raymond ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From raywood at magma.ca Thu Nov 1 14:42:28 2001 From: raywood at magma.ca (Raymond Wood) Date: Wed May 18 14:21:59 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients In-Reply-To: <3BE19717.73C78ECA@tln.lib.mi.us> References: <3BE19717.73C78ECA@tln.lib.mi.us> Message-ID: <20011101144228.G721@magma.ca> On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 10:46:35AM -0800, Andrew Mutch remarked: > Can someone remind me why you need to register for this site? I have to admit > that there have been times that I've either wanted to view or link to articles > from Library Journal but I've never gone through the registration process. I > guess it turned me off having to deal with that at a library site with no clear > reason for them collecting that information. I second this question... Raymond From raywood at magma.ca Thu Nov 1 14:46:47 2001 From: raywood at magma.ca (Raymond Wood) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: DMCA going too far??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011101144647.H721@magma.ca> > > Sony Corp. is using a controversial U.S. law aimed at > > protecting intellectual property to pull the plug on a Web > > site that helps owners of Aibo, Sony's popular and pricey > > robotic pet, teach their electronic dogs new tricks. > > This should be no surprise (though it is good to know). This is > exactly what the DMCA is for in the first place. > > Raymond > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 02:14:03PM -0500, Masters, Gary E remarked: > DMCA was not sold this way. Of course not - very few repressive laws advertise themselves as such. One has to read in between the lines for the 'subtext'. :) Raymond From rsinger at linc.lib.il.us Thu Nov 1 17:37:18 2001 From: rsinger at linc.lib.il.us (Rachel Singer Gordon) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: LJ registration Message-ID: <66580-220011141223718359@linc.lib.il.us> Because cahner's business info (who publish LJ etc.) have made all their sites subscription-only (and a lot more commercial -- my guess would be to have concrete numbers to give advertisers). If you go to Jessamyn's excellent blog at http://www.librarian.net/ , she has some fake user login information for LJ (and the NYT) on the left-hand side that you can use to get in and read the articles without the registration hassle. - Rachel >On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 10:46:35AM -0800, Andrew Mutch remarked: >> Can someone remind me why you need to register for this site? I >have to admit >> that there have been times that I've either wanted to view or link >to articles >> from Library Journal but I've never gone through the registration >process. I >> guess it turned me off having to deal with that at a library site >with no clear >> reason for them collecting that information. > >I second this question... > >Raymond > --- Rachel Singer Gordon / rsinger@linc.lib.il.us Head, Computer Services / Franklin Park Library http://www.franklinparklibrary.org http://www.lisjobs.com --- From srotenbe at solano.cc.ca.us Thu Nov 1 15:29:43 2001 From: srotenbe at solano.cc.ca.us (Sandra Rotenberg) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000a01c16313$f0eac250$8f8022d8@RM1051> I registered looking for another article mentioned in Cites and found that you have to go to the search box and search for the article you want once you have registered. It doesn't remember why you went there in the first place. Then you can cut and paste the url because part of it gets cut off because of the length, and get to it that way. That seems to be the only way to get this article because it isn't showing up in the search with the authors name or the word netConnect. It isn't very intuitive or helpful. Good luck. Sandra Rotenberg Access Services Librarian Solano Community College 4000 Suisun Valley Road Suisun City, CA 94585 Ph: (707) 864-7243 e-mail: srotenbe@solano.cc.ca.us "If you wish to make an apple pie truly from scratch, you must first invent the universe." -Carl Sagan, astronomer and writer (1934-1996) -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Gary Benton Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients I don't like to have to register as well. I tried to register, but it didn't work for me either. Gary Benton Library Systems Technician Walla Walla College >>> Raymond Wood 11/01/01 10:17AM >>> On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 09:15:07AM -0800, Sloan, Bernie remarked: > > The URL for Joyce's article is: > > http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA1 > 77736 > > Or, alternatively, go to Library Journal's Web page > (http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/) and scroll down the > page and click on "netConnect" (in the far left column under > "Resources"). It's the Fall 2001 issue. Thanks Bernie. Unfortunately I tried to 'Register' to the site (not by choice mind you), but was unable to access the article for some reason -- oh well... I was interested to see what the author might say about the Linux Terminal Project (going by memory with that title). Thanks anyway, Raymond ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From latham1 at students.uiuc.edu Thu Nov 1 15:35:45 2001 From: latham1 at students.uiuc.edu (latham1) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients Message-ID: <3BCA3F77@cricket.lis.uiuc.edu> I'm a fan of both Linux and thin clients, but unfortunately haven't worked with this approach. I think their history is very interesting. I had some questions in reviewing it ... since Linux itself runs pretty thin -- we were able to squeeze Redhat 6.2 onto a Pentium (1) for instance -- one wouldn't be using it to convert low-end machines back to useful devices. You could do that just loading up Linux. You are then basing your decision on centralized management of multiple points of access, but the LTSP folks haven't gotten as far with that as the Citrix people have.(Neither has Microsoft). Of course, it's *alot* cheaper than the Citrix flavor, but I still think the original is the best solution on this -- if you have the money for it, and the time to invest in the learning curve. Joyce >===== Original Message From creechj@mumbly.lib.cwu.edu ===== >> I was interested to see what the author might say about the >> Linux Terminal Project (going by memory with that title). > >Linux Terminal Server Project - http://www.ltsp.org > >John Creech >Electronic Resources & Systems Librarian >Central Washington University Library >400 E. 8th Ave. | Ellensburg, WA 98926 | >office - 509-963-1081 || fax - 509-963-3684 >creechj@www.lib.cwu.edu J.M. Latham Graduate School of Library and Information Science University of Illinois -- Urbana Champaign latham1@students.uiuc.edu From creechj at mumbly.lib.cwu.edu Thu Nov 1 15:44:37 2001 From: creechj at mumbly.lib.cwu.edu (John Creech) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients In-Reply-To: <3BCA3F77@cricket.lis.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: > it's *alot* cheaper than the Citrix flavor... ^^^^^^ How do I describe my library budget? Little bird flew overhead and said "cheap cheap." John Creech, CWU Library From PMurray at law.uconn.edu Thu Nov 1 15:51:40 2001 From: PMurray at law.uconn.edu (Peter Murray) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: Call for Proposals: LITA 2002 National Forum (October 11-13; Houston) Message-ID: <5911657.1004629900@d233h32.public.uconn.edu> [This call for proposals is being sent to multiple e-mail lists. Please excuse the duplication.] The 2002 LITA National Forum Committee seeks proposals for high quality concurrent sessions at the fifth annual LITA National Forum to be held at the Westin Galleria & Westin Oaks, Houston, Texas October 11-13, 2002. Visit the 2002 Forum web page (http://www.lita.org/forum02/propcall.html) for more information about the theme of the Forum, possible proposal topics, and submission information. The Committee welcomes and appreciates your proposals. Proposals will be reviewed by the LITA 2002 National Forum Committee at the 2002 ALA Midwinter Conference. Please submit proposals to Mary Taylor (mtaylor@ala.org), LITA Executive Director, by January 7, 2002. The Library and Information Technology Association (LITA) is the division of the American Library Association that provides its members and the library and information science community as a whole with a forum for discussion, an environment for learning, and a program for actions on the design, development, and implementation of automated and technological systems in the library and information science field. -- Peter Murray, Computer Services Librarian W: 860-570-5233 University of Connecticut Law School Hartford, Connecticut From dfk at snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu Thu Nov 1 14:53:23 2001 From: dfk at snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu (Dan Kissane) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If you want to read Library Journal articles without registering, couldn't you just access it in one of your full-text databases? We have it in several: Library Journal is available as follows: [from 8/1/1992 to present in MasterFILE Select] [from 1/1/1997 to present in Expanded Academic ASAP, InfoTrac OneFile] [from 4/1/2001 to present in Academic Universe]. Just a thought... ... ... On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Gary Benton wrote: > I don't like to have to register as well. > > I tried to register, but it didn't work for me either. > > > > Gary Benton > Library Systems Technician > Walla Walla College > > >>> Raymond Wood 11/01/01 10:17AM >>> > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 09:15:07AM -0800, Sloan, Bernie > remarked: > > > > The URL for Joyce's article is: > > > > http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA1 > > 77736 > > > > Or, alternatively, go to Library Journal's Web page > > (http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/) and scroll down the > > page and click on "netConnect" (in the far left column under > > "Resources"). It's the Fall 2001 issue. > > Thanks Bernie. Unfortunately I tried to 'Register' to the site > (not by choice mind you), but was unable to access the article > for some reason -- oh well... > > I was interested to see what the author might say about the > Linux Terminal Project (going by memory with that title). > > Thanks anyway, > Raymond > > > > ********************************************************************* > Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, > this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there > to a plain text message. > ********************************************************************* > Dan Kissane Reference Librarian SUNY College at Oneonta Oneonta, NY 13820 dfk@oneonta.edu personal web site: www.dmcom.net/dkissane From BentGa at wwc.edu Thu Nov 1 16:12:41 2001 From: BentGa at wwc.edu (Gary Benton) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients Message-ID: Dan, Great idea. It worked! Gary Gary Benton Library Systems Technician Walla Walla College >>> Dan Kissane 11/01/01 11:53AM >>> If you want to read Library Journal articles without registering, couldn't you just access it in one of your full-text databases? We have it in several: Library Journal is available as follows: [from 8/1/1992 to present in MasterFILE Select] [from 1/1/1997 to present in Expanded Academic ASAP, InfoTrac OneFile] [from 4/1/2001 to present in Academic Universe]. Just a thought... ... ... On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Gary Benton wrote: > I don't like to have to register as well. > > I tried to register, but it didn't work for me either. > > > > Gary Benton > Library Systems Technician > Walla Walla College > > >>> Raymond Wood 11/01/01 10:17AM >>> > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 09:15:07AM -0800, Sloan, Bernie > remarked: > > > > The URL for Joyce's article is: > > > > http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA1 > > 77736 > > > > Or, alternatively, go to Library Journal's Web page > > (http://libraryjournal.reviewsnews.com/) and scroll down the > > page and click on "netConnect" (in the far left column under > > "Resources"). It's the Fall 2001 issue. > > Thanks Bernie. Unfortunately I tried to 'Register' to the site > (not by choice mind you), but was unable to access the article > for some reason -- oh well... > > I was interested to see what the author might say about the > Linux Terminal Project (going by memory with that title). > > Thanks anyway, > Raymond > > > > ********************************************************************* > Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, > this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there > to a plain text message. > ********************************************************************* > Dan Kissane Reference Librarian SUNY College at Oneonta Oneonta, NY 13820 dfk@oneonta.edu personal web site: www.dmcom.net/dkissane ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From latham1 at students.uiuc.edu Thu Nov 1 16:47:21 2001 From: latham1 at students.uiuc.edu (J.M. Latham) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Thin clients In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Then, I would say that is an answer ... :-) Joyce On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, John Creech wrote: > > it's *alot* cheaper than the Citrix flavor... > ^^^^^^ > > How do I describe my library budget? Little bird flew overhead and said > "cheap cheap." > > John Creech, CWU Library > From PAUL.GRAY at TCCD.NET Thu Nov 1 15:29:13 2001 From: PAUL.GRAY at TCCD.NET (GRAY, PAUL) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: More on IE lockdown Message-ID: <2751DDC83AB5D211A0930090272ABEED012FF871@EXCHANGE_NE> OK -- Through IEAK I can tell IE not to open new windows and to disallow closing the browser. BUT--- Some links seem to be able to bypass this and open new windows anyway -- which then cannot be closed. Anybody have any ideas on how to COMPLETELY prevent opening of new windows? Also open to hints on how to disable the START button -- or eliminate EVERYTHING on it but IE Right now I am getting around this by running IE as the shell -- but this causes some other problems. OK -- One more question -- Want to prevent patrons from downloading/saving to any place but their A drive. I have all drives hidden but A But they still manage to save to "My Documents" and to the desktop. Any help or any pointers to good informational sites would be welcome. BTW --- Thanks to those who suggested Public Browser -- I'm sure its a wonderful product -- but with our people -- if it doesnt look smell and taste just like the IE they have at home -- they get paranoid. We even paid for a similar product called OneSite from the makers of Cybrarian -- and they wouldn't allow me to use it in the reference area after it was bought. We do use it in the lab -- and it works GREAT. Paul H. Gray Library Manager, CLC and LRC LAN TCC Northeast Campus Library Hurst, TX From mrempel at gppl.ab.ca Thu Nov 1 18:33:51 2001 From: mrempel at gppl.ab.ca (Michelle Rempel) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: Link prevents user from using back button Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20011101162912.00aa34a0@pop.telusplanet.net> Afternoon, We have a sponsor that we've added a link for on our site. The problem is that no matter what TARGET I use I can't make the link open in a new window. The link opens in the same window and will not let the user go back to our site. Each time I try it reloads the linked site. I think it is due to a META tag, but I could be wrong. The tag in question is I know this is so their site doesn't open in a frame when linked, but is there any way I can counteract this? Thanks! Michelle Rempel PLS/GPPL From DobbsA at apsu.edu Thu Nov 1 14:22:01 2001 From: DobbsA at apsu.edu (Dobbs, Aaron) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: DMCA going too far??? Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE91EA9A@EXCHANGE> True, but it is what it's "for". -----Original Message----- From: Masters, Gary E [mailto:GEM@CDRH.FDA.GOV] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:26 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: DMCA going too far??? DMCA was not sold this way. Gary Gary E. Masters Librarian (Systems) CDRH - FDA (301) 827-6893 -----Original Message----- From: Raymond Wood [SMTP:raywood@magma.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: DMCA going too far??? On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 10:05:30AM -0800, Charles P. Hobbs remarked: > http://www.latimes.com/business/la-000086726nov01.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines% > > Sony Corp. is using a controversial U.S. law aimed at > protecting intellectual property to pull the plug on a Web > site that helps owners of Aibo, Sony's popular and pricey > robotic pet, teach their electronic dogs new tricks. This should be no surprise (though it is good to know). This is exactly what the DMCA is for in the first place. Raymond From cchick at earthlink.net Fri Nov 2 00:38:18 2001 From: cchick at earthlink.net (Cindy Chick) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:00 2005 Subject: LLRX Update - November 1, 2001 Message-ID: New on LLRX.com for November 1, 2001 http://www.llrx.com **Law Firm Extranets: Baking a New Pie http://www.llrx.com/features/lawfirmextranet.htm Once unique, extranets are now a common application in the legal community. Jerry Lawson focuses on extranet development pointers, challenges to successful implementation, and provides an online bibliography of resources and selected vendors. **Survey of Online Legal Information Alternatives http://www.llrx.com/features/alternatives.htm T. R. Halvorson reviews Westlaw and Lexis special pricing options as well as services offered by Loislaw.com, VersusLaw, Quicklaw America, National Law Library, RegScanLaw and LawProbe.com. **Update to A Guide to the U.S. Federal Legal System: Web-Based Publicly Accessible Sources http://www.llrx.com/features/us_fed.htm Gretchen Feltes' guide is an especially useful resource in light of the 9-11 attacks and increased interest around the world in the U.S. legal system. **Bibliography on Terrorism, Bioterrorism, the Middle East, and 9-11 Related Issues http://www.llrx.com/features/terrorbiblio.htm Complied by Camille Reynolds, this bibliography provides a list of publications relevant to the 9-11 attacks and aftermath, along with associated book reviews as available. **New York State Disaster & Terrorism Legislation for 2001 http://www.llrx.com/features/nydisaster.htm This bibliography, compiled by Janice E. Henderson, will be updated to include new terrorism and disaster related legislation from New York state. **Update to Researching Dutch Law http://www.llrx.com/features/dutch2.htm Oswald Jansen and George Middeldorp have updated their extensive guide with additional links to government data, legal research resources on the Web, and a significant range of legal text books. **The Internet Archives: Preserving the History of Web Pages http://www.llrx.com/columns/webcritic12.htm Kathy Biehl reviews the efforts of a tax-exempt organization called the Internet Archive that has assumed the mantle of rescuing public online data from oblivion. **The Internet Roundtable #25 - How Can My Site Help Me With Many Audiences? http://www.llrx.com/extras/ir25.htm Jerry Lawson, Brenda Howard and Dennis Kennedy discuss the many communities that law firm web sites ideally should be designed to serve, including current clients, potential clients, the media, the disabled, job seekers, and others. **Voice Care for the Occasional Speaker http://www.llrx.com/columns/guide57.htm Professional speakers learn to care for their voices to minimize possible problems. Marie Wallace explains what an occasional speaker can do to care for and condition their voice. **Book Review: Toward A Cyberlegal Culture http://www.llrx.com/extras/cyberlegal.htm Sabrina I. Pacifici reviews a recently published book by Mirela Roznovschi, which is a valuable addition to any collection on international and foreign law research. **Latest Links http://www.llrx.com/links/110101.htm Margaret Berkland reviews: About.com Closed Guide Relocation Directory and Assistance Links; All the Worlds Maps; Daypop; The Fully-Automated Fill-in-the-Blanks FOI Letter Generator; International Trade/Import-Export Portal; The Post-September 11 Environment: Access to Government Information. **Editor's Featured Site: Internet Way Back Machine http://web.archive.org/ This recently launched archival project, encompassing more than 10 billion Web pages published since 1996, provides researchers with an historical repository of content that in many cases is no longer available. The issues raised by this site in terms of intellectual property and cyberspace law will no doubt resonate for years to come. (Editor, Sabrina I. Pacifici) From rjtiess at warwick.net Thu Nov 8 09:33:15 2001 From: rjtiess at warwick.net (Robert Tiess) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: Reburning a CD [was: Virus on Library cdrom?] References: Message-ID: <3BEA97AB.5A0BBD19@warwick.net> Beth DeGeer wrote: > I did not think one could re-burn a CD. Hi, Beth. If the CD in question is in fact a CD-R that was created, closed, but not write protected (something that must be specified upon ejection of a CD-R), theoretically anyone else with a CD writer drive could open that same CD back up, make any number of modifications to the disk, and close it again so that it would be readable in most CD-ROM drives. If a CD-R can be placed in a CD writer drive and you can make it writable again (e.g. if "Make Writable" is an option), that CD-R is susceptible to modification. A CD-R for public use should always be write protected by its creator, but since many people are new to CD-Rs they might not know to do that. On the bright side, if a CD-R is not write protected, you or someone with a CD-R drive could also reopen the CD-R and then close it immediately by ejecting the CD and checking "write protect." If your disc is a CD-R and a virus was written to it, write protection is irrelevant now: the disc was already compromised and should be discarded. One way of telling a CD-R from a CD is a CD-R usually has a blueish/greenish tint to it on the part of the disc the computer reads (not on the label side). A standard CD-ROM (silver on the read side) is in fact read only and unable to be reopened/rewritten due to the way it's created, unlike CD-Rs, which rely on dye. Here's a link to a site that explains some more how CD-Rs and CDs work: http://www.howstuffworks.com/question287.htm Hope that was helpful :-) Robert rjtiess@warwick.net From GEM at CDRH.FDA.GOV Thu Nov 8 09:18:37 2001 From: GEM at CDRH.FDA.GOV (Masters, Gary E) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Virus on Library cdrom? NO. Message-ID: Always remember to never use always or never. Unless, of course, you really have to. But in this case, it does not seem reasonable. The worm, if there were one, came from else where. More likely, the repair person messed it up. I have managed to mess up a registry to the point that I had to reformat the drive. Gary Gary E. Masters Librarian (Systems) CDRH - FDA (301) 827-6893 -----Original Message----- From: Beth DeGeer [SMTP:bdeg@bartlesville.lib.ok.us] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 6:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Virus on Library cdrom? Hi all: A patron came to me today and claimed that the library's copy of JumpStart Kindergarten, which she had checked out and installed on her computer, had given her a worm, and it had corrupted most of her hard drive. She got this information from the pc repairman who fixed her PC. Is this possible? I did not think one could re-burn a CD. The CDROM she borrowed is the actual one we purchased commercially, and it's printed with the logo, etc., so I don't think anyone has substituted another CDROM. Any opinions? Beth DeGeer Youth Services Librarian/PC Administrator Bartlesville Public Library, Bartlesville OK bdeg@bartlesville.lib.ok.us http://www.bartlesville.lib.ok.us ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From carver.50 at osu.edu Thu Nov 8 12:30:04 2001 From: carver.50 at osu.edu (Blake Carver) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] RE: Virus on Library cdrom? NO. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20011108092843.00b30130@pop.service.ohio-state.edu> It is entirely possible the CD was created with a virus on it. "The latest DVD featuring cartoon sensation "The Powerpuff Girls" may boast fun games for young PC users, but three computer programs on the disc have also been infected by the "FunLove" virus, CNET News.com has learned.". http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-7735109.html I remember this happening before as well. -Blake >(301) 827-6893 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beth DeGeer [SMTP:bdeg@bartlesville.lib.ok.us] > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 6:41 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Virus on Library cdrom? > > Hi all: > > A patron came to me today and claimed that the library's copy of >JumpStart > Kindergarten, which she had checked out and installed on her >computer, had > given her a worm, and it had corrupted most of her hard drive. She >got this > information from the pc repairman who fixed her PC. Is this >possible? I > did not think one could re-burn a CD. The CDROM she borrowed is the >actual > one we purchased commercially, and it's printed with the logo, etc., >so I > don't think anyone has substituted another CDROM. Any opinions? > > > Beth DeGeer > > Youth Services Librarian/PC Administrator > Bartlesville Public Library, Bartlesville OK > bdeg@bartlesville.lib.ok.us > http://www.bartlesville.lib.ok.us > > > > > > >********************************************************************* > Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, > this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there > to a plain text message. > >********************************************************************* ------------------------------------------ Blake Carver Web Librarian The Ohio State University Libraries From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Thu Nov 8 09:35:13 2001 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: Virus on Library cdrom? NO. References: Message-ID: <3BEA9821.D63CE194@tln.lib.mi.us> I would agree with Gary on this one. The only variable that I've encountered with these kinds of CD-ROMs is that some of these software packages have been known to include "spyware" apps that get installed along with the application the patron intends to use. So, if you ran something like Ad-aware, you would find "rogue" applications that you didn't ask to be installed sending data of your use of the Internet to some web site. However, as obnoxious as "spyware" is, it's a long leap from having "spyware" installed to getting a worm that causes the hard drive to be corrupted. I think this is a good example of the PC tech either: 1) Blowing smoke because he couldn't explain the real cause of the hard drive corruption Tech: "Uh, what was the last thing that you used on the computer?" Patron: "This CD from the library." Tech: "Really? Well, yeah, it...it...it probably had a worm that corrupted your hard drive. Yeah, that's the ticket!" 2) Making assumptions about cause and effect. See #1. Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI "Masters, Gary E" wrote: > Always remember to never use always or never. Unless, of course, you really > have to. > > But in this case, it does not seem reasonable. The worm, if there were one, > came from else where. More likely, the repair person messed it up. I have > managed to mess up a registry to the point that I had to reformat the drive. > > Gary > > Gary E. Masters > Librarian (Systems) > CDRH - FDA > (301) 827-6893 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beth DeGeer [SMTP:bdeg@bartlesville.lib.ok.us] > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 6:41 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Virus on Library cdrom? > > Hi all: > > A patron came to me today and claimed that the library's copy of > JumpStart > Kindergarten, which she had checked out and installed on her > computer, had > given her a worm, and it had corrupted most of her hard drive. She > got this > information from the pc repairman who fixed her PC. Is this > possible? I > did not think one could re-burn a CD. The CDROM she borrowed is the > actual > one we purchased commercially, and it's printed with the logo, etc., > so I > don't think anyone has substituted another CDROM. Any opinions? > > Beth DeGeer > > Youth Services Librarian/PC Administrator > Bartlesville Public Library, Bartlesville OK > bdeg@bartlesville.lib.ok.us > http://www.bartlesville.lib.ok.us > > > ********************************************************************* > Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, > this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there > to a plain text message. > > ********************************************************************* From izelazny at hunter.cuny.edu Thu Nov 8 12:58:43 2001 From: izelazny at hunter.cuny.edu (Ilan Zelazny) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: Q: Select Printer per application Message-ID: <1005242323.3beac7d3c5ce7@ms1web.hunter.cuny.edu> Hello all, Is there a way (Windows 95/98 & Novell 5.0) to have a default printer set for specific applications? In other words, when I print from Netscape, the output automatically goes to our HP Laser; on that same machine, if I print from Word the output goes to our dot-matrix printer. I dont want the student to select the printers. Thanks for your help. - Ilan ********************************************************************** * Ilan Zelazny Hunter College Library * * Head, Systems Unit 695 Park Ave. Rm E313 * * TEL: (212) 772-4171 New York, NY, 10021 * * Ilan.Zelazny@hunter.cuny.edu FAX: (212) 772 - 5113 * ********************************************************************** From lislemck at netscape.net Thu Nov 8 15:00:15 2001 From: lislemck at netscape.net (Elizabeth J. McKenty a.k.a. Lisle) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: Web-Sense conference in 2002? Message-ID: <5958C93F.54EE26F4.00A08978@netscape.net> Does anyone know if a Web-Sense conference will be held in 2002? It was co-sponsored by IMLS and First Monday in 2000 and 2001, but I can't find anything on either site about 2002. TIA! -- Elizabeth J. McKenty Library Coordinator The Office of Public Service Support Free Library of Philadelphia mckentye@excen.library.phila.gov lislemck@netscape.net __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From ra67 at umail.umd.edu Thu Nov 8 15:40:15 2001 From: ra67 at umail.umd.edu (Robin Albert) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: E-Signature Workshop -- DC area Message-ID: <3BEAEDAF.14022D5B@umail.umd.edu> There is still time to register for the following workshop! College of Information Studies University of Maryland presents E-Commerce, E-Government, E-Signatures, and Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) Thursday, November 29, 2001 E-commerce or e-government has become a driving force in many private and public sector organizations. Recent electronic signature and records laws provide the legal basis for e-commerce transactions using digitally signed electronic records. Public key infrastructure (PKI) provides the institutional, policy, and technology framework that will support authentication, digital signing, integrity and encryption of electronic records transported over the Internet, PKI, electronic signature and records laws, and e-commerce/e-government initiatives pose challenges for records and archival institutions but also provide an opportunity for cross-organizational cooperation and creating new roles for those institutions. This workshop will explore the impact of e-commerce on electronic records management, using state e-government initiatives as a focal point, and will address in detail issues raised by recent electronic signature laws and PKI. The following topics will be explored: * Electronic records management as an enabler of e-commerce/e-government * Recent Federal E-SIGN law and state electronic signature and records laws and their impact on records and archival institutions * The emerging role of information technology, policy, and other entities in electronic records management * A primer on public key infrastructure (PKI) * Issues that PKI raises for archivist and records managers * The changes records and archival institutions need to effect to deal with the emerging e-commerce/e-government environment Instructor: Alan S. Kowlowitz, e-Commerce/e-Government, New York State Office for Technology Date: November 29, 2001, 9:00 am - 4:00 pm Location: 2111 Stamp Union, University of Maryland, College Park, MD Registration Fee: $145 (includes lunch) CEUs: .6 Registration Deadline: November 15, 2001 For more information, please contact: Robin Albert at 301-405-2057 or ra67@umail.umd.edu Please visit our web site at www.clis.umd.edu/ce/ for additional workshops and registration form **************************************************** REGISTRATION FORM: (check appropriate workshop) _____ E-Commerce, E-Government, E-Signatures and PKI Send completed form with payment to: Continuing Education Program 4105 Hornbake South, CLIS, UMD College Park, MD 20742 or FAX to 301-314-9145 ___ Check here if you wish to receive continuing education credit (CEUs) Name: Organization: Address: Phone: Fax: Email: Method of Payment: Check (payable to University of Maryland) Credit Card: VISA MasterCard Discover Credit Card#: Expiration Date: Cardholder's Name/Phone: Signature: -- ÿWPCŸ ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From dbarclay at library.tmc.edu Thu Nov 8 16:36:33 2001 From: dbarclay at library.tmc.edu (Donald Barclay) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: IP Address Detection Message-ID: Anyone know of a quick, cheap, and good way to detect a site visitor's IP address and, based on this, direct them to a particular page on your site? Donald A. Barclay Assistant Director for Systems and Informatics Houston Academy of Medicine-- Texas Medical Center Library dbarclay@library.tmc.edu 713.799.7120 always the beautiful answer who asks a more beautiful question --e.e. cummings From Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca Thu Nov 8 16:49:51 2001 From: Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca (Darryl Friesen) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IP Address Detection References: Message-ID: <001d01c1689f$4b78eef0$0100a8c0@usask.ca> > Anyone know of a quick, cheap, and good way to detect a site > visitor's IP address and, based on this, direct them to a particular > page on your site? Depends totally on your web server and what tools you have available. This could easily be done with PHP, Perl, Python, or server side includes. If the server is Apache you could accomplish this with something in the .htaccess or httpd.conf file, or (probably) with mod_rewrite. - Darryl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Darryl Friesen, B.Sc., Programmer/Analyst Darryl.Friesen@usask.ca Education & Research Technology Services, http://gollum.usask.ca/ Information Technology Services Division, University of Saskatchewan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go not to the Elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes" From Karen.Harker at UTSouthwestern.edu Thu Nov 8 17:01:29 2001 From: Karen.Harker at UTSouthwestern.edu (Karen Harker) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IP Address Detection Message-ID: We use a crude form of IP validation for many of our pages that describe access and passwords, etc. We keep the IP addresses in a simple database (actually, it's a hybrid of values & ranges), and then I've created a template that is used to query the database and return a local variable, onCampus. I call this template using and then continue the code based on the value of onCampus (i.e. ). It's crude, but it works. Karen R. Harker, MLS UT Southwestern Medical Library 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Dallas, TX 75390-9049 214-648-1698 http://www.swmed.edu/library/ >>> Donald Barclay 11/8/01 3:45:44 PM >>> Anyone know of a quick, cheap, and good way to detect a site visitor's IP address and, based on this, direct them to a particular page on your site? Donald A. Barclay Assistant Director for Systems and Informatics Houston Academy of Medicine-- Texas Medical Center Library dbarclay@library.tmc.edu 713.799.7120 always the beautiful answer who asks a more beautiful question --e.e. cummings ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From prx000 at mail.connect.more.net Thu Nov 8 17:26:36 2001 From: prx000 at mail.connect.more.net (Mike Novak) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: IP Address Detection References: <001d01c1689f$4b78eef0$0100a8c0@usask.ca> Message-ID: <002e01c168a4$6d8e4490$4a0eb8cc@ucpl.lib.mo.us> >> Anyone know of a quick, cheap, and good way to detect a site >> visitor's IP address and, based on this, direct them to a particular >> page on your site? > >Depends totally on your web server and what tools you have available. > >This could easily be done with PHP, Perl, Python, or server side includes. >If the server is Apache you could accomplish this with something in the >.htaccess or httpd.conf file, or (probably) with mod_rewrite. Also easily done with VBscript / ASP on an NT machine running IIS... (use Request.ServerVariables("REMOTE_ADDR") to grab the visitor's IP address) [IIS is not the root of all evil :) ] Mike Novak Technology Coordinator & Reference Librarian University City Public Library From ra67 at umail.umd.edu Thu Nov 8 17:33:09 2001 From: ra67 at umail.umd.edu (Robin Albert) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: Hot Legal Issues Workshop -- DC area Message-ID: <3BEB0825.12D1C366@umail.umd.edu> Are you concerned about the effects of the USA Patriot Act in your library? Do you want to know how the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA) can be used in the current war effort? For these questions and more: The College of Information Studies University of Maryland presents: Top 10 Legal Issues for 2001 This seminar will provide a cutting edge survey of recent laws and judicial decisions that are essential knowledge for information professionals. What are the key information related issues presented by the war on terrorism that must be understood by Information Professionals? Whether information architect, manager, user, librarian or archivist, you must maintain a current awareness of these critical legal issues. Other topics for this session may include: Information Security – National Security Espionage to Commercial Theft Information Systems Security – Computer Fraud and Abuse Act & FBI initiatives Traditional Copyright & the Napster litigation The DMC & the Reimerdes litigation Licensing, UCITA and database legislation Censorship – CIPA and other Immediate Chanllenges Privacy and the Commercial Environment Privacy and the Medical Environment Civil Litigation in the Information Age Making Electronic Records and E-Government work We will use these issues, as well as the latest in judicial decisions, for collaborative discussions and to formulate key management strategies for your professional success Date: November 27, 2001, 9:00 am - 4:00 pm Location: 2111 Stamp Union, UMD, College Park, MD Registration Fee: $145 (includes lunch) CEUs: .6 Instructor: Lee S. Strickland, J.D., Visiting Professor, College of Information Studies and Senior Intelligence Officer, CIA. Please visit our web site at www.clis.umd.edu/ce/ for additional workshops and registration form or contact Robin Albert @ 301-405-2057 **************************************************** REGISTRATION FORM: (check appropriate workshop) _____ Top Legal Issues for 2001 Send completed form with payment to: Continuing Education Program 4105 Hornbake South, CLIS, UMD College Park, MD 20742 or FAX to 301-314-9145 ___ Check here if you wish to receive continuing education credit (CEUs) Name: Organization: Address: Phone: Fax: Email: Method of Payment: Check (payable to University of Maryland) Credit Card: VISA MasterCard Discover Credit Card#: Expiration Date: Cardholder's Name/Phone: Signature: -- ÿWPCŸ ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From araby at unr.edu Thu Nov 8 17:52:02 2001 From: araby at unr.edu (Araby Greene) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IP Address Detection References: Message-ID: <00b401c168a7$fb640db0$493cc586@greenea> This may not be applicable to your situation, but with IIS and ASP, you can get the visitor's IP address using: Request.ServerVariables("REMOTE_ADDR") To detect if the person is on campus, you might extract the first part of the address: strUserIP = (Left(Request.ServerVariables("REMOTE_ADDR"),8)) If (strUserIP = "134.197.") Then strUserLoc="OnCampus" Else strUserLoc="OffCampus" End If In a Perl script, you could use: $ip = "$ENV{REMOTE_ADDR}"; Hope this helps, Araby Greene ________________________ Araby Greene araby@unr.edu Web Development Librarian Getchell Library/322 Univ. of Nevada, Reno http://www.library.unr.edu/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Barclay" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] IP Address Detection > Anyone know of a quick, cheap, and good way to detect a site visitor's IP > address and, based on this, direct them to a particular page on your site? > > Donald A. Barclay > Assistant Director for Systems and Informatics > Houston Academy of Medicine-- > Texas Medical Center Library > dbarclay@library.tmc.edu > 713.799.7120 > > always the beautiful answer > who asks a more beautiful question > --e.e. cummings From Robin.Zalben at alverno.edu Tue Nov 6 12:44:35 2001 From: Robin.Zalben at alverno.edu (Robin Zalben) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Printer auditing software Message-ID: <8AAD31CF6E18D5118D2800B0D020739961ECC9@exchsrv1.alverno.edu> We do use Pcounter with NT (Windows 2000 Server and Windows 98 machines). it works well for us. For the security minded, it does show you the names of every document printed (but you can delete the logs regularly). There have been a few quirks, but it has worked very well. Robin Zalben PC Specialist Alverno College -----Original Message----- From: Dale Goodell - WOU Library [mailto:goodeld@wou.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:36 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Printer auditing software Another product worthy of consideration is PCounter ( http://www.pcounter.com ) We run this, in cooperation with our University Computing Services, on our campus Novell network, so I don't know about NT. ----Dale > Although I work in a small high school with a few networked (NT) printers, > getting students to pay for printing is a hassle, so I am considering software > that will monitor student printing and disable their printing rights when they > have exceeded their allotment. > > First, is anyone using software like this with which they are pleased? > > Second, I have found a company selling a product called PrintControl (at: > http://www.northern.net/printControl/). Does anyone have any experience with > this product? ================================================================== Dale E. Goodell Information Technology Consultant Computer Services Unit Western Oregon University Library Monmouth, OR 97361 E-mail: goodeld@wou.edu Voice: 503/838-8891 Fax: 503/838-8399 From Karen.Harker at UTSouthwestern.edu Thu Nov 8 18:30:57 2001 From: Karen.Harker at UTSouthwestern.edu (Karen Harker) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: IP Address Detection Message-ID: Of course, this does not take into account multiple ranges. That is why we were forced to use a database. Karen R. Harker, MLS UT Southwestern Medical Library 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Dallas, TX 75390-9049 214-648-1698 http://www.swmed.edu/library/ >>> Araby Greene 11/8/01 4:58:58 PM >>> This may not be applicable to your situation, but with IIS and ASP, you can get the visitor's IP address using: Request.ServerVariables("REMOTE_ADDR") To detect if the person is on campus, you might extract the first part of the address: strUserIP = (Left(Request.ServerVariables("REMOTE_ADDR"),8)) If (strUserIP = "134.197.") Then strUserLoc="OnCampus" Else strUserLoc="OffCampus" End If In a Perl script, you could use: $ip = "$ENV{REMOTE_ADDR}"; Hope this helps, Araby Greene ________________________ Araby Greene araby@unr.edu Web Development Librarian Getchell Library/322 Univ. of Nevada, Reno http://www.library.unr.edu/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Barclay" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] IP Address Detection > Anyone know of a quick, cheap, and good way to detect a site visitor's IP > address and, based on this, direct them to a particular page on your site? > > Donald A. Barclay > Assistant Director for Systems and Informatics > Houston Academy of Medicine-- > Texas Medical Center Library > dbarclay@library.tmc.edu > 713.799.7120 > > always the beautiful answer > who asks a more beautiful question > --e.e. cummings ********************************************************************* Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy, this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there to a plain text message. ********************************************************************* From kgs at bluehighways.com Thu Nov 8 19:36:45 2001 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (Karen G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: Collection procedures Message-ID: <0c8401c168b6$9d590cc0$0200a8c0@TAWANDA> I am looking for examples of collection management procedures for collections of Internet resources. The examples I am most interested in are selection and weeding. I'm particularly interested in procedures that establish cycles of selection and weeding distributed across topic areas ("topic" could be anything from locally-derived categories to DDC to LC to... however you slice the pie) and shared among several or many staff. To add the Boolean "nots" for this message, I'm not looking for procedures for evaluating or describing resources, or for tools for locating resources; nor am I seeking policy. I'm honing in on the actual division and generation of labor that results in the systematic creation and maintenance of local records or links to Internet resources. Thanks in advance-- ---------------------------------------------- Karen G. Schneider kgs@lii.org Coordinator, Librarians' Index to the Internet Information You Can Trust! http://lii.org ---------------------------------------------- From wfrost at husky.bloomu.edu Thu Nov 8 19:42:07 2001 From: wfrost at husky.bloomu.edu (William Frost) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] PC Magazine test of Linux/Win2K Message-ID: John's link is to the Red Hat news release. The article itself is on pp. 12-128. Bill William J. Frost Webmaster/Database Coordinator Harvey A. Andruss Library Bloomsburg University of Pennsylvania fros@bloomu.edu 570-389-4126 >>> John Creech - 11/7/01 4:03 PM >>> For anyone who's interested, the Nov. 13 issue of _PC Magazine_ tested Red Hat Linux against Windows 2000. http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/011105/52110_1.html John Creech Electronic Resources & Systems Librarian Central Washington University Library 400 E. 8th Ave. | Ellensburg, WA 98926 | office - 509-963-1081 || fax - 509-963-3684 creechj@www.lib.cwu.edu From kgs at bluehighways.com Thu Nov 8 21:28:04 2001 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (Karen G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:01 2005 Subject: Job Opening Message-ID: <0ca701c168c6$2c2ec340$0200a8c0@TAWANDA> St. Charles Parish Public Library Systems Administration Librarian Luling, LA Description: Evaluation, planning, implementation, maintenance and upgrading of library automation, networking (LAN and WAN), Internet, Web page, WebPAC, and applications software. Evaluation and selection of subscription databases and Web links. Monitors and maintains maintenance contracts. Plans and coordinates training of staff and patrons. Plans, implements, and maintains computer security. Supervises one computer specialist. Qualifications: ALA accredited Master's degree. Experience managing library automation (Dynix experience preferred). Knowledge of networking, Internet and software applications. Ability to master new computer hardware and software. Ability to diagnose and solve hardware, software, and networking problems. Excellent oral and written communication skills. Starting Salary: $35,018 - $37,161 depending upon qualifications Benefits: Vacation, Holidays, Sick Leave, Retirement, Insurance The Library: St. Charles Parish Library is a parish(county)wide public library system consisting of two regional libraries, two small branches (with a third under construction), a bookmobile and a planetarium. Since 1989, the Library has been automated using the Dynix automation for cataloging, circulation, and public access. Since 1994, the Library has had Internet access, which was expanded in 1998 to include all branches. Popular software applications are also available for use by the public. The library participates in a statewide network that provides access to a variety of subscription databases. In addition, the Library is part of a statewide interlibrary loan system that operates through the Internet. The Community: St. Charles Parish is a mix of small towns and rural areas adjacent to the New Orleans metropolitan area (25 miles from downtown New Orleans), with a population of 48,000. Deadline: This position is available immediately. Applications will be reviewed as they are received. Applications will be accepted until the position is filled. How to Apply: Send resume and references to St. Charles Parish Library, P. O. Box 949, Luling, LA 70070. From Andrea.Cheney at USPTO.GOV Fri Nov 9 07:35:40 2001 From: Andrea.Cheney at USPTO.GOV (Andrea.Cheney@USPTO.GOV) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:02 2005 Subject: FW: netlibrary update Message-ID: <8D41CD9393D61B4193D5892E1C455B6C29F792@uspto-is-109.uspto.gov> FYI. --andrea cheney ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Subject: (Fwd) FW: From LJ Academic Newswire 11/8/01 CONCERN MOUNTS AS NETLIBRARY ROYALTY CHECKS BOUNCE Concern is rising among university press directors this week, as royalty checks, issued to some university presses for their licensed e-books, bounced. Thomas Bacher, director of the Purdue University Press confirmed that his press's royalty check from the cash-strapped e-book provider failed to clear. "And the check wasn't for a large amount," noted Bacher. Bacher said the check was for less than $100. While concerned about the bounced royalty check, however, Bacher expressed even graver concerns about netLibrary's somewhat murky "escrow" agreement with OCLC to distribute CD-ROM copies of e-books to some libraries in the event of netLibrary's demise. "My content agreement with netLibrary allows for their distribution of our books via the Internet," said Bacher. "It doesn't allow for the burning of CD-ROMS." Bacher says he is concerned over the copyright implications associated with issuing CD-ROMS. "I understand that libraries bought these books," says Bacher, but added that he was uneasy over the idea of unauthorized CD-ROM copies of his press' books. Further complicating matters, noted Bacher, his netLibrary agreement affords Purdue University Press the option of withdrawing their content from netLibrary after three years. Marge Gammon, netLibrary senior director of marketing, said she was unaware of any university presses with bounced checks, but conceded that publishers who did not cash checks before October 15 might have run into trouble. "When our cash flow problem became apparent, the bank froze the company's assets," explained Gammon, who said that future payouts and restitution for any bounced checks would now need to be reviewed on a case by case basis. As for Bacher's concerns over the issuing of CD-ROMS in case of netLibrary failing to find new financing or a buyer, Gammon said that whatever contracts were in place with individual presses would be honored--meaning that if a publisher did not grant the right for its work to be reproduced on CD- ROM, then that press's books would not be part of the OCLC plan. It was not clear how many of netLibrary's partners would be contractually ineligible for the OCLC back-up plan. Some of these worries may remain in the realm of the hypothetical. Gammon said the company was doing its best to continue its operations and noted that talks with an unnamed potential buyer could be finished as early as this week. "We're talking days, not weeks," said Gammon. ------- End of forwarded message ------- From wbarnes at husky.bloomu.edu Fri Nov 9 08:01:08 2001 From: wbarnes at husky.bloomu.edu (William Barnes) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IP Address Detection Message-ID: We do this in PHP, works like a champ! Here is a code snippet: Thanks! --Bill ******************************************* * Bill Barnes, RHCE, CCNA, CNA, MCP, A+ * Library Network Administrator * Harvey A. Andruss Library * Bloomsburg University * ph: 570-389-2813 * e-mail: wbarnes@bloomu.edu ******************************************* >>> "Donald Barclay" 11/08/01 04:45PM >>> Anyone know of a quick, cheap, and good way to detect a site visitor's IP address and, based on this, direct them to a particular page on your site? Donald A. Barclay Assistant Director for Systems and Informatics Houston Academy of Medicine-- Texas Medical Center Library dbarclay@library.tmc.edu 713.799.7120 always the beautiful answer who asks a more beautiful question --e.e. cummings From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Fri Nov 9 08:55:40 2001 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] IP Address Detection References: Message-ID: <00b101c16926$761adbf0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Barclay" To: "Multiple recipients of list" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:45 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] IP Address Detection > Anyone know of a quick, cheap, and good way to detect a site visitor's IP > address and, based on this, direct them to a particular page on your site? > As others have made clear, there's no decent server-side technology that *couldn't* do this, so you just need to decide what technology is the best fit for your server environment. If your need is really a "this page for on-campus, that page for off-campus" arrangement, let me suggest an alternative. I'd create one dynamic page that displays the appropriate content for either group of users. Consider: you have two sets of directions for accessing databases; I'm on campus; I search in Google for this page; Google's crawler will have come from off-campus, and will display to me the URL for the off-campus directions. Contrariwise, if I receive e-mail from an off-campus friend asking for those directions, I'll probably end up sending him the on-campus URL. If both logical pages live at the same URL, both these problems are avoided. Again, any decent server-side scripting environment will handle this. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From carol.brown at wright.edu Fri Nov 9 09:10:12 2001 From: carol.brown at wright.edu (Carol Brown) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:02 2005 Subject: White Paper on Invivisible Web? References: <00b101c16926$761adbf0$761e99c0@ohiolink.edu> Message-ID: <000d01c16928$3f9014e0$aba96c82@dunbar.wright.edu> I am trying to find a copy of the 40+ page pdf white paper that Bright Planet released on the Invisible Web last year from their website. I find many reference to it, but their website no longer looks like it's in existence and all the links die . . . Would anyone happen to have archived a copy of that pdf file?? Thanks Carol Brown ******************************************************** Carol Brown Assistant Head of Reference and Instruction Dunbar Library, Wright State University (937)775-3521 carol.brown@wright.edu ******************************************************** "Hope is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul -- And sings the tune without words, and never stops -- at all." -- Emily Dickinson From carol.brown at wright.edu Fri Nov 9 09:34:29 2001 From: carol.brown at wright.edu (Carol Brown) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:02 2005 Subject: Thanks to all...[WEB4LIB] White Paper on Invivisible Web? References: <5D2A5FE013C66B44901B5A45A5304DDA01EE3A21@oa2-server.oa.oclc.org> Message-ID: <003901c1692b$a38cabe0$aba96c82@dunbar.wright.edu> I received what I needed. Thanks to everyone. As a plus, it seems Bright Planet is there after all, just a burp in the network lines this morning!! Thanks again...this is what makes a listserv such a great thing for me--everyone is there to help at a moment's notice. Carol ******************************************************** Carol Brown Assistant Head of Reference and Instruction Dunbar Library, Wright State University (937)775-3521 carol.brown@wright.edu ******************************************************** "Hope is the thing with feathers, that perches in the soul -- And sings the tune without words, and never stops -- at all." -- Emily Dickinson From rsinger at linc.lib.il.us Fri Nov 9 13:10:54 2001 From: rsinger at linc.lib.il.us (Rachel Singer Gordon) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:02 2005 Subject: autorun.inf? Message-ID: <310680-220011159181054140@linc.lib.il.us> Hi all - We're starting a project in which we will be burning some digitized local history videos (in quicktime format) to CD. Since we are probably going to be including multiple clips on a single CD, I thought it might be useful to create a web page to include on the CD as an index to the clips. I want the web page to load automatically when someone inserts the CD, so then they can just click the desired file name to watch a video clip. Can I do this with an autorun.inf file, or do I need to download one of the many freeware programs I see out there that are meant to launch HTML files from CD? Has anyone done this sort of thing, and what would you all recommend -- is there an easier way to create an index to the CD that I am missing? We're kind of new at this, so I'm just feeling my way through here. Thanks, - Rachel --- Rachel Singer Gordon / rsinger@linc.lib.il.us Head, Computer Services / Franklin Park Library http://www.franklinparklibrary.org http://www.lisjobs.com --- From WMinkel at cahners.com Fri Nov 9 12:06:07 2001 From: WMinkel at cahners.com (Minkel, Walter (Cahners-NYC)) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Question from School Library Journal: PICS & dot-kids Message-ID: <517FA14C1A28D411BBA300508B6356440287EE6F@BINNYCEXC002> Folks-- Hi from SLJ. I'm working on a story about the renewed initiatives to establish "safe zones" for children on the Net. Last month, the Internet Content Rating Association, an industry-sponsored nonprofit, kicked off a big campaign to convince Web managers to label the content of their sites with ICRA, which generates a label based on the PICS system, which was briefly trumpeted as a system for the Net similar to movie ratings, in 1997 & '98. If you remember PICS at all, you probably know that the system has been all but ignored since '98. Also, there's a bill in the House of Representatives right now (H.R. 2417) that will try to force ICANN to establish a "dot-kids" top-level domain. (If you remember, last year ICANN refused to establish .kids, saying that the definition of a "child" varied from country to country, among other reasons). The National Telecommunications & Information Administration of the Commerce Department has supported an amendment to establish instead a "kids.us" domain, which would be easier to manage. My question to anyone interested in this issue: What are your feelings on the appropriateness of both the rating system and the dot-kids domain to establish a "safe zone"? How would passage of the dot-kids bill potentially affect libraries, particularly public libraries? What should companies, committees, & others worried about the "dangers of the Net" be doing instead, if anything? Please reply directly to me, with your permission to use your comments in my news story. Thanks very much, W ------------------------------ Walter Minkel, Technology Editor, School Library Journal www.slj.com * wminkel@cahners.com * 212-463-6721 * fax 212-463-6689 From bennetttm at appstate.edu Fri Nov 9 12:54:52 2001 From: bennetttm at appstate.edu (Thomas Bennett) Date: Wed May 18 14:22:02 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] autorun.inf? In-Reply-To: <310680-220011159181054140@linc.lib.il.us> Message-ID: When I was looking into the same matter I recall that you don't need third party software if you are calling an executable. I've used autostart.exe from http://www.startertool.com/ to open web pages although while searching for the starter tool site I found http://visualbasic.about.com/library/weekly/aa021201b.htm which gives you the visual basic source code to create your own autostart.exe . Although their example: [autorun] open=iexplore.exe photoalbum.htm icon=photoalbum.ico shows the need for autostart.exe because you don't know if the user has iexplore or not. When I tried using open that way on a machine that did have iexplore.exe, autorun did not work on win 9x but did on win2k. It is also my understanding that this will not autostart on MAC. You may also want to look at Autorun.inf Commands at http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/shellcc/pla tform/Shell/Shell_basics/Autoplay_cmds.asp Note: the url above will wrap on some email viewers and that's why you get an error. Thomas -----Original Message----- From: web4lib@webjunction.org [mailto:web4lib@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Rachel Singer Gordon Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:03 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] autorun.inf? Hi all - We're starting a project in which we will be burning some digitized local history videos (in quicktime format) to CD. Since we are probably going to be including multiple clips on a single CD, I thought it might be useful to create a web page to include on the CD as an index to the clips. I want the web page to load automatically when someone inserts the CD, so then they can just click the desired file name to watch a video clip. Can I do this with an autorun.inf file, or do I need to download one of the many freeware programs I see out there that are meant to launch HTML files from CD? Has anyone done this sort of thing, and what would you all recommend -- is there an easier way to create an index to the CD that I am missing? We're kind of new at this, so I'm just feeling my way through here. Thanks, - Rachel --- Rac