From mfriley at erols.com Mon Feb 22 08:53:51 1999 From: mfriley at erols.com (Margaret F. Dikel) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Yahoo's Business Express =$$$ In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990220200348.009cb6f0@mail.virtuallibrarian.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990222085351.007e3e70@pop.erols.com> At 05:03 PM 2/20/99 -0800, Hetherington Information Services wrote: >Yahoo gets the stick. > >www.yahoo.com/info/suggest/busexpress.html > >"Business Express requires a $199 one-time, non-refundable processing fee >per submission. >Business Express does not guarantee a listing in the Yahoo! directory, nor >does it guarantee the >type of placement or description that your site will receive if accepted. " > >booo.. Oh, I don't know. I'd rather they turn down a few sites that don't meet whatever standards they are using in the judging process (be nice to see that criteria list) then continually find personal pages listed as sources of information on given topics. Now if they would just get rid of the deadwood. Margaret Margaret Dikel, MSLIS 11218 Ashley Dr. The Riley Guide Rockville, MD 20852 www.dbm.com/jobguide 301-984-4229 mfriley@erols.com 301-984-6390 FAX Margaret_Riley@dbm.com From lhyman at mail.sdsu.edu Mon Feb 22 13:04:34 1999 From: lhyman at mail.sdsu.edu (Linda Woods Hyman) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: Davenport - IT/Librarians Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990222100432.00687874@mail.sdsu.edu> At 11:09 AM 2/1/99 -0800, you wrote: >Thomas H. Davenport, "Putting the I in IT", Mastering Information >Management special section. Financial Times of London, Feb. 1, 1999, p2-4. Website at with free registration. > Thomas Davenport has written books and articles about Knowledge Management/Human Capital, etc. for those of you who want to pursue this further. **************************** Linda Woods Hyman Pacific Bell Education First (619) 237-2020 http://www.kn.pacbell.com lhyman@mail.sdsu.edu From Frances.Lynch at mcmail.vanderbilt.edu Mon Feb 22 14:49:36 1999 From: Frances.Lynch at mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (Frances.Lynch@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: Position - web Developer - Vanderbilt Message-ID: <86256720.006CE27D.00@MCSMTP.MC.VANDERBILT.EDU> Web Developer The Annette and Irwin Eskind Biomedical Library (EBL) of Vanderbilt University Medical Center (VUMC) in Nashville, TN seeks a talented, innovative individual to join the Web Development Group as a Health System Analyst Programmer I. Under the supervision of the Coordinator of Web Development, the developer will work closely with other members of the team and with those responsible for departmental Web sites to develop central Web applications, tools, and infrastructure to support VUMC's rapidly growing Web presence. Qualifications: Bachelor's degree in a computer related field, or equivalent course work, technical training, or experience. The successful candidate will have at least one year of experience developing Web applications using PHP, Perl, Java, or DHTML, or a combination of these languages. Familiarity with Unix operating systems, especially Solaris or Linux, is preferred. Experience developing database-driven Web sites, especially with MySQL or Oracle, is also preferred, though not required. Other useful experience includes Apache, mod_perl, and mod_jserv. Environment: The Annette and Irwin Eskind Biomedical Library is the principal health information delivery vehicle for Vanderbilt University Medical Center and one of the cornerstones for its Community Outreach program. The architecturally striking facility was opened in March 1994 with state-of-the-art information management systems and connectivity to the Medical Center fiber optic network. The library, along with the Division of Biomedical Informatics and the Information Management and Network Support Group, form the Informatics Center. Members of the library work in partnership with other researchers and developers in the Informatics Center to innovate the delivery of health information to the region. The Medical Center, which includes a 661 bed hospital, state-of-the-art outpatient clinics, extensive research facilities, and the Schools of Medicine and Nursing, is an integral part of Vanderbilt's ten schools and colleges, comprising 10,000 students and 1,600 full-time faculty members. Vanderbilt is one of over 15 colleges and universities in Nashville, Tennessee, the State Capital and home of the American music industry. With a metropolitan population of one million people, Nashville is a major business and education center for the mid-South. Benefits: Salary is competitive, negotiable and commensurate with skills and experience (min. $35,880). Insured benefits and leave policies are those applicable to exempt status employees of Vanderbilt University, including TIAA/CREF, Vanguard, and VALIC retirement plan options. More information about benefits is available at: Review of applications will begin immediately and continue until a final candidate is selected. Qualified individuals should submit a letter of application, resume, and the names, addresses, and telephone number of three references to: Tommy Williams, Coordinator of Web Development Eskind Biomedical Library Vanderbilt University Medical Center 2209 Garland Ave, Room 001 EBL Nashville, TN 37232-8340. Fax: (615) 936-1384 If you prefer to submit your material electronically, send ASCII text or Adobe Acrobat PDF files *ONLY* to with the subject "System Analyst Programmer I." Vanderbilt University is an equal opportunity, affirmative action employer. Minorities, persons with disabilities, and women are encouraged to apply. If you would like to discuss this position before submitting an application, please call 1-800-854-0451 and you will be put in touch with a member of the hiring committee. -- Tommy Williams From hananc at bashan.co.il Mon Feb 22 16:28:55 1999 From: hananc at bashan.co.il (Hanan Cohen) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: Table of contents database Message-ID: <36D1CC16.74397F6A@bashan.co.il> Our library is engaged in quit an ambitious project. We are scanning the table of contents of ALL our reference books, OCR them and put it in a database. The objective of this project is for our patrons to be able to find books not only by their title or classification but also by words that appear in their content. We are a small town library with about 8,000 reference books. I would like to know if there are other projects like this and would like to share thoughts and experience. Thanks -- Hanan Cohen Kiryat Gat Central Library Kibbutz Tamuz - Beit Shemesh http://www.tamuz.org.il ***Love and Peace*** From mshepard at saclaw.lib.ca.us Mon Feb 22 17:37:05 1999 From: mshepard at saclaw.lib.ca.us (Maureen Shepard) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: our website was attacked by porno hackers Message-ID: Last weekend a hacker deleted our homepage and substituted a page with porno pictures on it. This person also hacked into our ISP's site. If any other library has experienced this, please let me know so we can exchange information. Maureen Shepard Systems Librarian Sacramento County Law Library MShepard@saclaw.lib.ca.us 916.874.5625 fax: 916.874.5691 From donaldb at library.tmc.edu Mon Feb 22 17:51:23 1999 From: donaldb at library.tmc.edu (Donald Barclay) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: How to submit form and forward user to another page Message-ID: <012501be5eb5$ded14220$a71e44c0@temp3.library.tmc.edu> Does anyone know of a more-or-less simple way to set up a web form so that when users fill out the form and click the "Submit" button they are automatically sent to some other webpage? This question was asked a few months ago on Web4Lib with no satisfactory answer provided. (I checked the archives.) I've looked all through the website on HTML and Java script with no luck either. I'm either not looking for the right terms or this is harder than it seems. Thanks for any help. Donald A. Barclay Houston Academy of Medicine- always the beautiful answer Texas Medical Center Library who asks the more beautiful question donaldb@library.tmc.edu -- e. e. cummings From johanne.revheim at ub.uib.no Mon Feb 22 18:28:30 1999 From: johanne.revheim at ub.uib.no (Johanne-Berit Revheim) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] How to submit form and forward user to another page In-Reply-To: <012501be5eb5$ded14220$a71e44c0@temp3.library.tmc.edu> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990223002830.00fb79a0@alfred.uib.no> At 14:50 22.02.99 -0800, Donald Barclay wrote: >Does anyone know of a more-or-less simple way to set up a web form so that >when users fill out the form and click the "Submit" button they are >automatically sent to some other webpage? > >This question was asked a few months ago on Web4Lib with no satisfactory >answer provided. (I checked the archives.) I've looked all through the >website on HTML and Java script with no luck either. I'm either not looking >for the right terms or this is harder than it seems. When I do this, I let the form action be a cgi-bin script or ASP page that give a blank page, containing a redirect meta tag, as result. () But I suppose you might wanted this done without any use of cgi-bin or ASP ... -Johanne -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Johanne-Berit Revheim Research Documentation Unit, University Library, University of Bergen, Avd. HiB, N-5020 Bergen, Norway. e-mail: johanne.revheim@ub.uib.no From nlin at library.berkeley.edu Mon Feb 22 19:03:03 1999 From: nlin at library.berkeley.edu (Nancy Lin) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: How to submit form and forward user to another In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990223002830.00fb79a0@alfred.uib.no> Message-ID: To add to this, if you need to process the form info first, I let the form call a cgi script. Supposing it's a perl script, the script will process the info, and at the end have a print "Location: http://www... \n\n"; And if there were errors in the form, the perl script will dynamically generate an error page. If you don't need to process the info (though I can't imagine why not), you could have the form action be an url. -- Nancy On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Johanne-Berit Revheim wrote: > At 14:50 22.02.99 -0800, Donald Barclay wrote: > >Does anyone know of a more-or-less simple way to set up a web form so that > >when users fill out the form and click the "Submit" button they are > >automatically sent to some other webpage? > > > >This question was asked a few months ago on Web4Lib with no satisfactory > >answer provided. (I checked the archives.) I've looked all through the > >website on HTML and Java script with no luck either. I'm either not looking > >for the right terms or this is harder than it seems. > > When I do this, I let the form action be a cgi-bin script or ASP page that > give a blank page, containing a redirect meta tag, as result. > () > > But I suppose you might wanted this done without any use of cgi-bin or ASP ... > > -Johanne > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Johanne-Berit Revheim > Research Documentation Unit, University Library, > University of Bergen, Avd. HiB, N-5020 Bergen, Norway. > e-mail: johanne.revheim@ub.uib.no > > From transit at primenet.com Mon Feb 22 19:15:09 1999 From: transit at primenet.com (Charles P. Hobbs) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] How to submit form and forward user to another page In-Reply-To: <012501be5eb5$ded14220$a71e44c0@temp3.library.tmc.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Donald Barclay wrote: > Does anyone know of a more-or-less simple way to set up a web form so that > when users fill out the form and click the "Submit" button they are > automatically sent to some other webpage? If you are using a CGI script in the "ACTION=" of your form, probably the best way is to have the script return the following (and the following text only): Location: http://www.some.other.webpage.com Again, other headers (such as the usual "Content-type: text/html"), etc. are not used in this case. Hope this helps. From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Mon Feb 22 19:36:36 1999 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: How to submit form and forward user to another Message-ID: <01be5ec4$92274280$27614c0c@thomas.ohiolink.edu> -----Original Message----- From: Johanne-Berit Revheim To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 6:39 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: How to submit form and forward user to another >At 14:50 22.02.99 -0800, Donald Barclay wrote: >>Does anyone know of a more-or-less simple way to set up a web form so that >>when users fill out the form and click the "Submit" button they are >>automatically sent to some other webpage?... >> > >When I do this, I let the form action be a cgi-bin script or ASP page that >give a blank page, containing a redirect meta tag, as result. >() > I've mentioned before (which obviously doesn't stop me from mentioning again) that not all browsers will honor this META tag--Opera may or may not depending on user settings, and Lynx may honor it, but not in the way you expect. In addition, some browsers' Back buttons will get terribly confused by this. If you're dealing in CGI, don't rely on HTTP-EQUIV hacks in HTML; you've got access to the real HTTP headers themselves. As others have already posted, you want "Location: " followed by an *absolute* URL, followed by a blank line. Thomas Dowling Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu From danforth at tiac.net Mon Feb 22 20:38:11 1999 From: danforth at tiac.net (Isabel Danforth) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Table of contents database In-Reply-To: <36D1CC16.74397F6A@bashan.co.il> Message-ID: <3.0.4.32.19990222203811.009f0be0@sunspot.tiac.net> Does scanning the tables of contents violate copyright law? Isabel At 01:36 PM 2/22/99 -0800, Hanan Cohen wrote: >Our library is engaged in quit an ambitious project. We are scanning the >table of contents of ALL our reference books, OCR them and put it in a >database. The objective of this project is for our patrons to be able to >find books not only by their title or classification but also by words >that appear in their content. > >We are a small town library with about 8,000 reference books. > >I would like to know if there are other projects like this and would >like to share thoughts and experience. > >Thanks >-- >Hanan Cohen > >Kiryat Gat Central Library >Kibbutz Tamuz - Beit Shemesh http://www.tamuz.org.il >***Love and Peace*** > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Isabel L. Danforth Technology Librarian, Wethersfield Public Library danforth@tiac.net http://www.wethersfieldlibrary.org Coordinator of Librarians' Online Support Team http://admin.gnacademy.org:8001/~lost/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From jiliu at script.lib.indiana.edu Mon Feb 22 22:05:11 1999 From: jiliu at script.lib.indiana.edu (Jian Liu) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Table of contents database In-Reply-To: <3.0.4.32.19990222203811.009f0be0@sunspot.tiac.net> from "Isabel Danforth" at Feb 22, 99 05:40:06 pm Message-ID: <199902230305.WAA07032@script.lib.indiana.edu> Probably not. Think about all the indexes. Also, Periodicals Contents Index by Chadwyck-Healey, and Carl Uncover. Jian > > Does scanning the tables of contents violate copyright law? > > Isabel > > > > At 01:36 PM 2/22/99 -0800, Hanan Cohen wrote: > >Our library is engaged in quit an ambitious project. We are scanning the > >table of contents of ALL our reference books, OCR them and put it in a > >database. The objective of this project is for our patrons to be able to > >find books not only by their title or classification but also by words > >that appear in their content. > > > >We are a small town library with about 8,000 reference books. > > > >I would like to know if there are other projects like this and would > >like to share thoughts and experience. > > > >Thanks > >-- > >Hanan Cohen > > > >Kiryat Gat Central Library > >Kibbutz Tamuz - Beit Shemesh http://www.tamuz.org.il > >***Love and Peace*** > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Isabel L. Danforth Technology Librarian, Wethersfield Public Library > danforth@tiac.net http://www.wethersfieldlibrary.org > Coordinator of Librarians' Online Support Team > http://admin.gnacademy.org:8001/~lost/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > From sean at durak.org Mon Feb 22 22:47:21 1999 From: sean at durak.org (sean dreilinger) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] business information needs studies? References: Message-ID: <36D224C9.EC1B06B6@durak.org> Avi Rappoport wrote: > I'm helping some folks set up a site for small and medium-sized > businesses, and want to expand their thoughts on the kinds of > information that these groups need. They are currently focussed on > company names/stock codes and SIC codes. that's an impressive start - your client has identified their online audience -- i've seen many companies sit down to start a web site and they haven't even really considered their online audience and whether or not that audience is represented online. > I strongly suspect that there are also more general needs like "what > are the implications of requiring my employees to wear uniforms?" and > "Where can I get a good price on a printer-fax-copier machine?" but I > don't have the evidence. So I'm looking for some business library > studies -- any pointers? I'll also take unpublished and anecdotal > evidence ;-). a good next step might involve determining some business goals and related user scenarios for the web site. its a little boring if you're not into it, details below. once you have defined those and have the client enthused over a w3 service that addresses the desired user scenarios and works towards their business goals... HTH --sean :-) sample goals: 1. accomplish digital branding of our business (by giving a away a valuable service to the online small business community to increase awareness of the sponsor) 2. sell our product online (maybe your client has a killer book of small business advice) 3. this web site will build a database of users we can communicate with regarding our business or product 4. increase offline sales of our product or service by providing pre-sales and faq information online 5. increase walk-in traffic to our library's business reference department sample scenarios (not connected to 1-4 above): 1. a small business owner wants to locate every similar business within their geographic area 2. someone responsible for purchasing needs help with online comparison shopping. 3. a small business CFO needs accounting or legal advice - maybe industry specific 4. a local business educator wants to contact potential guest speakers -- sean dreilinger, mlis mailto:sean@durak.org http://durak.org/sean From lbspodic at ust.hk Mon Feb 22 23:07:09 1999 From: lbspodic at ust.hk (Edward Spodick, HKUST Library, 2358-6743) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: Mixing character encodings in a page - problem with latin-1 entities In-Reply-To: <3.0.4.32.19990222203811.009f0be0@sunspot.tiac.net> Message-ID: I am trying to figure out how include an umlaut character on a predominantly Chinese language page. The 'u' with umlaut is represented as 'ü' in latin-1, but the page is using big5 coding. UTF-8 might recognize it, but I can't find anyway to make it all work together. Anyway, suggestions are welcome. I have tried removing the meta charset tag, using a Content-Language tag, using SPAN STYLE settings (and probably making mistakes with some of them), and even variations of the FONT tag. I have seen a sample page mix languages on a UTF-8 page, but not mix encodings. I would prefer a solution which is cross-platform and works on Netscape and MSIE [at least the newest versions :)]. Sample Page: http://library.ust.hk/test/umlaut.html Note that this page does contain one version which displays the umlaut correctly on most English Windows PCs with Chinese enabling software (the 3rd link on the list). This is not standard, and does not work on Unix, Mac, and on Chinese Windows. I don't think there is currently a solution, but I would love to be surprised. :) -Ed Spodick - - - - - Edward F Spodick, Systems Librarian - lbspodic@ust.hk Hong Kong University of Science & Technology Library tel: 852-2358-6743 fax: 852-2358-1043 From rtennant at library.berkeley.edu Mon Feb 22 23:58:31 1999 From: rtennant at library.berkeley.edu (Roy Tennant) Date: Wed May 18 14:16:40 2005 Subject: Social Sciences Reference/Electronic Resources Librarian position available: Washington State University Libraries (fwd) Message-ID: Posted by request for Bonny Boyan - please do not respond to me. Roy ---------- Forwarded message ---------- SOCIAL SCIENCES REFERENCE/ELECTRONIC RESOURCES LIBRARIAN Washington State University Libraries POSITION AVAILABLE: Currently vacant SPECIFIC RESPONSIBILITIES: Provide general reference in the humanities, social sciences, and business. Provide specialized reference in assigned subject areas. Perform collection development in sociology, child and family studies, and other assigned areas. Act as library liaison to the Sociology and Human Development departments. Provide general bibliographic instruction sessions, and specialized sessions in assigned areas. Monitor and maintain access to electronic resources. Aid subject specialist librarians in the selection of electronic resources. Aid librarians in the use of statistics generated by the library catalog, online databases, and other resources. GENERAL RESPONSIBILITIES: Librarians are appointed as members of the Washington State University faculty and are expected to participate actively in the University's instructional, research, and service programs. All privileges, obligations, and research responsibilities of faculty are inherent in such membership. Librarians are ranked in grades 2, 3, and 4, equivalent to the academic ranks of Assistant Professor, Associate Professor, and Professor. A progressive record of professional/scholarly achievement is expected of all librarians. ENVIRONMENT: Washington State University is a land grant university founded in 1890 with an enrollment of approximately 21,000 students. The main campus is located in Pullman, a town of 24,000, in the fertile Palouse region of southeastern Washington; there are also three branch campuses located in Spokane, Vancouver, and the Tri-Cities. The Washington State University Libraries, a member of the Association of Research Libraries, have current holdings of 1.7 million volumes, provide access to a wide range of electronic resources, and have a new online classroom in the $36 million addition to Holland Library. The Libraries share their online system, (Innovative Interfaces, Inc.), with Eastern Washington University. The Libraries have a well established program for library user education. QUALIFICATIONS: REQUIRED: ALA accredited MLS or its foreign equivalent. Degree or collection development experience in the social sciences. Reference experience in an academic, research, or large public library. Strong understanding of the issues created by the use of CD-ROMs, online databases, and PCs networked in a public service environment. Demonstrated creative use of technology in problem-solving. PREFERRED: Degree in sociology or human development. Teaching or bibliographic instruction experience. Experience with Windows NT. Experience with Innovative Interfaces, Inc. products. Knowledge of relational databases. Working knowledge of statistical software such as SPSS, SAS, Minitab, etc., or proven use of database software for statistical purposes. SALARY: From $30,000 commensurate with qualifications and experience. RANK: Librarian 2; faculty status. OTHER BENEFITS: TIAA/CREF, broad insurance program, 22 days vacation and 12 days sick leave per year. Send letter of application, resume, and names and complete mailing addresses and phone numbers of three references addressed to: Donna L. McCool, Associate Director for Administrative Services Washington State University Libraries PO Box 645610 Pullman, WA 99164-5610 Application review begins: April 30, 1999 Washington State University Libraries' Home Page is: http://www.wsulibs.wsu.edu Washington State University employs only U.S. citizens and lawfully authorized non-U.S. citizens. All new employees must show employment eligibility verification as required by the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service. WASHINGTON STATE UNIVERSITY IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY/AFFIRMATIVE ACTION EDUCATOR AND EMPLOYER. Members of ethnic minorities, women, Vietnam-era or disabled veterans, persons of disability, and/or persons age 40 and over are encouraged to apply. ~~~~~ WSU ~~~~~ Bonny L. Boyan Personnel Coordinator Library Administrative Office (509) 335-1535; Campus Zip: 5610 email: boyan@wsu.edu From j-klock at evanston.lib.il.us Mon Feb 8 09:59:29 1999 From: j-klock at evanston.lib.il.us (James Klock) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Weird Extranet problem Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990208085928.009b5810@ellington.evanston.lib.il.us> At 05:20 PM 2/7/99 -0800, Spober@manhattan.edu wrote: >...now we find that one of the vendors (UMI's ProQuest >Direct service) we get via Extranet is apparently not coming through the >Extranet at all. I had assumed this was due to a lack of DNS when the >campus Internet connection was down. However, I was wrong. >Using the URL: http://www.umi.com/pqdauto the error message [appears]... >Using the numeric URL that is the equivalent of the above address >(http://192.195.245.135/pqdauto) the error message [appears]... >Using the numeric IP: http://192.195.245.140 we can get to a generic UMI >page, but ... Aha! UMI, being a subscription server, wants to convince themselves that the requests for information that they are serving are coming from people who are paying for it. One of the ways that they do this is by confirming the IP # of the requesting machine. We, for example, have told them to allow connection from any machine in the 207.227.130.* subnet. http://www.umi.com/pqdauto is, if memory serves, the URL through which UMI authenticates IP numbers before sending traffic on to the data. It sounds like what's happening is that when you try to contact UMI via your Extranet connection, your IP number is not the same as when you go through your campus Internet connection. My suggestion: contact your Extranet provider, and find out from them what IP number your outgoing traffic uses. If they are assinging you a dynamic IP number from a pool, you may have a problem. If not, the easiest thing to do is to tell UMI to enable access from the IP number(s) that your Extranet connection uses. Our experience has been that UMI is quite reasonable about allowing customers to register whatever range of IP numbers they wish. As for the fact that Netscape responds with the same message regardless of what you do-- that's probably just because Netscape responds with that message pretty much any time it can't connect to a remote server, regardless of what the real problem is... :P Good luck! James From thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us Mon Feb 8 11:38:08 1999 From: thomas at anaheim.lib.ca.us (Thomas Edelblute) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: mapping 95 to NT workstation Message-ID: <36BF12F0.CF01AE9@anaheim.lib.ca.us> I am trying to figure out how to map a drive on a Windows 95 computer to a shared folder on a Windows NT workstation. Right now the Windows 95 computer can see the NT workstation in the network neighborhood, but will not let me access any of the shared devices on the workstation. Is there any way of accomplishing this? -- Thomas Edelblute Anaheim Public Library From j-klock at evanston.lib.il.us Mon Feb 8 12:21:44 1999 From: j-klock at evanston.lib.il.us (James Klock) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] mapping 95 to NT workstation Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990208112143.009b8e10@ellington.evanston.lib.il.us> At 08:41 AM 2/8/99 -0800, you wrote: >I am trying to figure out how to map a drive on a Windows 95 computer to >a shared folder on a Windows NT workstation. Right now the Windows 95 >computer can see the NT workstation in the network neighborhood, but >will not let me access any of the shared devices on the workstation. Is >there any way of accomplishing this? To connect to any Windows NT machine (workstation or server) from a Windows 95 machine running the Client for Microsoft Networks, you must have logged onto the Windows 95 client machine with a username and password which is valid for the NT machine. In other words: go to the NT workstation, and open the User Manager (from the Administrative Tools (common) group in the Start menu). Create a new user with the same username with which you will log onto the Windows 95 machine. Set the password for that user to the password with which you will log onto the windows 95 machine. Close the User Manager. Go back to the Windows 95 machine, logout the current session, and logon with the username & password you just created on the target NT machine. If you change your password, you will need to change it on the NT workstation as well, or you will lose access to the shared resource. This is Microsoft's idea of a pretty good way of doing things... Bah. James From davidb at cstone.net Mon Feb 8 11:45:06 1999 From: davidb at cstone.net (David Borchardt) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Public Access Counting for Internet Stations Message-ID: <008c01be5388$2a5abd40$390847cc@oemcomputer> In response to Jan's inquiry, I offer our software program - Public Access Manager ("PAM") as a solution. Developed for schools and libraries, PAM does create a User Activity Log which may be used for data mining. This log shows when PCs were used, which applications were launched, and Windows error messages for diagnostics. PAM does NOT invade privacy by tracking URLs visited. If you choose to utilize the Accounts Logon Database, PAM also reports who the user was. This is just a small aspect of what Public Access Manager offers. PAM secures PC's OS and applications from tampering, allows you to set session time and printing limits, restricts URL activity on specified terminals (web catalog, EBSCO, etc.), shuts down PCs automatically at the end of the day, and performs other key tasks. A free evaluation copy of PAM is available to anyone interested. Best Regards, David C. Borchardt, Library Division INVORTEX Technologies, Inc. (800) 295-0860 http://www.invortex.com davidb@invortex.com -----Original Message----- From: Jan Lindquist To: Multiple recipients of list Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 3:36 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] Public Access Counting for Internet Stations >Hi - >Does anyone know of any software that can be installed on a workstation that >will produce a count of the number of Internet sessions run on that machine. >We would like to be able to produce some statistics on in-library Internet >use in terms of number of patrons logging-on to help justify the service. >Most of the programs I have seen are directed at corporate users who want to >monitor details of what individuals are doing. These are much too intrusive >for our purposes. >Jan Lindquist < mailto:jlind@biblio.org > >Reference Technology Librarian, Fairfield Public Library >Fairfield, Connecticut 06430 >Vox: (203) 256-3159 Fax: (203) 256-3162 > From isidro at cindoc.csic.es Mon Feb 8 13:29:10 1999 From: isidro at cindoc.csic.es (Isidro F. Aguillo) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: Pages about search engines Message-ID: <36BF2CF6.39BCE603@cindoc.csic.es> We will thank commentaries, advices and criticisms about an essay (yet in construction) about search tools, including topics such as: internet size, major shortcommings, taxonomy of tools according several criteria and some webliography support. The addresses are: http://www.cindoc.csic.es/cybermetrics/links08.html http://www.cindoc.csic.es/cybermetrics/search01.html http://www.cindoc.csic.es/cybermetrics/search02.html http://www.cindoc.csic.es/cybermetrics/search03.html http://www.cindoc.csic.es/cybermetrics/search04.html http://www.cindoc.csic.es/cybermetrics/search05.html Information about overlooked sites are specially wellcomed -- *********************************************************** Isidro F. AGUILLO isidro@cindoc.csic.es ----------------------------------------------------------- SOST-CSIC Tel: (32)2 - 551.02.80 Rue Guimard, 15 Fax: (32)2 - 551.02.85 1040 Bruselas. BELGIUM/BELGIQUE Programas Europeos (www.info2000.csic.es/midas-net) Editor Cybermetrics (www.cindoc.csic.es/cybermetrics) *********************************************************** From walterg at yorku.ca Mon Feb 8 14:04:21 1999 From: walterg at yorku.ca (Walter W. Giesbrecht) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: password protection and IIS 4.0 Message-ID: <36BF3535.639EFF05@yorku.ca> Can we restrict access to a directory using passwords on a server running IIS 4.0 and have it work for all clients? For a variety of reasons, we are moving most of our web content (excluding the catalogue itself) from a Unix server (running NCSA 1.5 on AIX) to an NT server running Microsoft-IIS 4.0. We have been restricting access to one directory tree with a password on the Unix server, but have been unable to get this to work in the same way on the NT server. Our systems person has only been able to get it to work for MSIE users; Netscape users are locked out completely. Does this make sense? Or has our systems person missed something fundamental? -- Walter W. Giesbrecht walterg@yorku.ca Data Librarian (416) 736-2100 ext. 77551 York University From tdowling at ohiolink.edu Mon Feb 8 14:20:44 1999 From: tdowling at ohiolink.edu (Thomas Dowling) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] password protection and IIS 4.0 Message-ID: <006d01be5398$27a39940$711e99c0@ohiolink.edu> IIS supports two password-based authentication systems, Basic Authentication and NT Challenge/Response. You only have Challenge/Response enabled, and only IE (to my knowledge) supports it. Enable Basic Authentication and Netscape will be able to get in. Thomas Dowling OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network tdowling@ohiolink.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: Walter W. Giesbrecht To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 2:04 PM Subject: [WEB4LIB] password protection and IIS 4.0 >Can we restrict access to a directory using passwords on a server >running IIS 4.0 and have it work for all clients? > >For a variety of reasons, we are moving most of our web content >(excluding the catalogue itself) from a Unix server (running NCSA >1.5 on AIX) to an NT server running Microsoft-IIS 4.0. We have >been restricting access to one directory tree with a password on >the Unix server, but have been unable to get this to work in the >same way on the NT server. Our systems person has only been able >to get it to work for MSIE users; Netscape users are locked out >completely. Does this make sense? Or has our systems person >missed something fundamental? >-- > >Walter W. Giesbrecht walterg@yorku.ca >Data Librarian (416) 736-2100 ext. 77551 >York University > From sterling at wln.com Mon Feb 8 15:06:55 1999 From: sterling at wln.com (Nola Sterling) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: Internet training: search engines Message-ID: Dear folks: I am doing training on various search engines: strengths, when and how to search effectively. I have one or two articles comparing engines and techniques but would very much like a table plus descriptions. Is there a site out there where this kind of training information is available? Thanks in advance for any assistance. Nola Sterling Federal Home Loan Bank sterling@wln.com (206)340-8746 F (206)340-2485 From pkreitz at SLAC.Stanford.EDU Mon Feb 8 15:33:58 1999 From: pkreitz at SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Patricia A. Kreitz) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Internet training: search engines In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >From Pat Kreitz, SLAC Library: We built one from Pacific Northwest Lab Library's chart (they are behind their lab's firewall and so I can't direct you there but they gave us permission to use/adapt it). Ours can be seen at: http://www.slac.stanford.edu/library then select 'search the web' (yes, we're eliminating frames in the next couple of months, sorry!) Also, UCB has an outstanding tutorial site for Web searching. They probably have the 'mother of all' charts there! On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Nola Sterling wrote: > Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:08:26 -0800 (PST) > From: Nola Sterling > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: [WEB4LIB] Internet training: search engines > > > Dear folks: > > I am doing training on various search engines: strengths, when and how to > search effectively. > > I have one or two articles comparing engines and techniques but would very > much like a table plus descriptions. Is there a site out there where this > kind of training information is available? > > Thanks in advance for any assistance. > > Nola Sterling > Federal Home Loan Bank > sterling@wln.com > (206)340-8746 > F (206)340-2485 > > From fmt008 at mail.connect.more.net Mon Feb 8 15:56:11 1999 From: fmt008 at mail.connect.more.net (MO River Regional Library) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Internet training: search engines Message-ID: <01BE5373.2CE5E180@CDROM1> Have you tried www.searchenginewatch.com? If they don't have it, there should be a link to it. The site is crammed with information on search engines! Robin Hastings Computer Services Assistant Missouri River Regional Library 573-634-6064 x242 -----Original Message----- From: Nola Sterling [SMTP:sterling@wln.com] Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 2:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [WEB4LIB] Internet training: search engines Dear folks: I am doing training on various search engines: strengths, when and how to search effectively. I have one or two articles comparing engines and techniques but would very much like a table plus descriptions. Is there a site out there where this kind of training information is available? Thanks in advance for any assistance. Nola Sterling Federal Home Loan Bank sterling@wln.com (206)340-8746 F (206)340-2485 From amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us Mon Feb 8 16:04:49 1999 From: amutch at waterford.lib.mi.us (Andrew Mutch) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Internet training: search engines References: Message-ID: <36BF5171.41F38C1@waterford.lib.mi.us> Nola, I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for exactly but I find Search Engine Watch to be one of the best resources on Search Engines: http://www.searchenginewatch.com/ They have a table that compares the various search engine features at: http://www.searchenginewatch.com/webmasters/features.html I hope that helps! Andrew Mutch Library Systems Technician Waterford Township Public Library Waterford, MI Nola Sterling wrote: > Dear folks: > > I am doing training on various search engines: strengths, when and how to > search effectively. > > I have one or two articles comparing engines and techniques but would very > much like a table plus descriptions. Is there a site out there where this > kind of training information is available? > > Thanks in advance for any assistance. > > Nola Sterling > Federal Home Loan Bank > sterling@wln.com > (206)340-8746 > F (206)340-2485 From snb at darkwing.uoregon.edu Mon Feb 8 16:06:39 1999 From: snb at darkwing.uoregon.edu (Sara Brownmiller) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Internet training: search engines In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The University of Oregon Library has a page for Searching the Web (http://libweb.uoregon.edu/network/srchweb.html). This page is not intended to be a comprehensive guide to all search engines, but rather a means to help familiarize students with how search engines work and some of the more common features available. We are currently reviewing the search engines listed on this page and plan to have a new edition ready the end of March. Librarians who teach our courses on Web searching have found this page to be very useful. Sara Brownmiller snb@darkwing.uoregon.edu Systems/Women's Studies Librarian 541/346-2368 University of Oregon Library 541/346-3485 (fax) 1299 University of Oregon Eugene, OR 97403-1299 On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Nola Sterling wrote: > > Dear folks: > > I am doing training on various search engines: strengths, when and how to > search effectively. > > I have one or two articles comparing engines and techniques but would very > much like a table plus descriptions. Is there a site out there where this > kind of training information is available? > > Thanks in advance for any assistance. > > Nola Sterling > Federal Home Loan Bank > sterling@wln.com > (206)340-8746 > F (206)340-2485 > From Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca Mon Feb 8 16:10:07 1999 From: Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca (Darryl Friesen) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] password protection and IIS 4.0 Message-ID: <00dd01be53a7$67795000$e84ae980@usask.ca> My original message didn't seem to go through (did it??) so I'm resending it. My appologies if you get this twice. - Darryl ----- Original Message ----- From: Darryl Friesen To: ; Multiple recipients of list < > Sent: February 8, 1999 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [WEB4LIB] password protection and IIS 4.0 > >>Can we restrict access to a directory using passwords on a server >>running IIS 4.0 and have it work for all clients? > >>For a variety of reasons, we are moving most of our web content >>(excluding the catalogue itself) from a Unix server (running NCSA >>1.5 on AIX) to an NT server running Microsoft-IIS 4.0. We have >>been restricting access to one directory tree with a password on >>the Unix server, but have been unable to get this to work in the >>same way on the NT server. Our systems person has only been able >>to get it to work for MSIE users; Netscape users are locked out >>completely. Does this make sense? Or has our systems person >>missed something fundamental? > >It sounds like the NT server is doing authentication using NT's method of >Challenge/Response (uses the NT usernames and passwords, authenticated against >a domain controller), instead of 'BASIC' (probably what the Unix server used). >This works great for IE because it understands Challenge/Response and will >respond correctly. Netscape does not. > >Try this with Netscape: in the username field, instead of putting in your >username, enter: > > NTDOMAIN/username > >ie. Our Windows NT Domain name (this shows up in the Logon dialog box when >you connect to the network) is "LIBRARY" so I'd use "LIBRARY/friesen" as my >username. Enter the password normally. > >Should work. Cool huh. > >As for whether or not there's a way around this I don't know. I didn't play >with IIS enough to find one. There _should_ be a way to use BASIC >authentication instead of Challenge/Response, but I don't know how that's done >either. > >So, no, I wouldn't say he's missed anything fundamental. > >I'd be interested to know if you do find a solution. > > >- Darryl > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Darryl Friesen, B.Sc., Programmer/Analyst Darryl.Friesen@usask.ca > Consulting & Development http://gollum.usask.ca/ > Department of Computing Services 163 Murray Building > University of Saskatchewan Main Library > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > "The Truth Is Out There" > From merchant at bayou.com Mon Feb 8 16:32:40 1999 From: merchant at bayou.com (David Merchant) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] password protection and IIS 4.0 In-Reply-To: <00dd01be53a7$67795000$e84ae980@usask.ca> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990208153240.007da4d0@mail.bayou.com> Speaking of password protection, the windows logon password protection is lame. If a person puts in a wrong password, it does not let you in. But, if you decide to not put one in at all and just hit cancel, it lets you in. Hello? That's protection? ("Halt, what is the password?" "I don't want to tell you." "Ok, you can enter..."). Any ideas of how to configure Win95 to prevent circumventing the Windows logon password dialog box? I know that any solution will probably only be slightly better than the lousy protection it gives now, but any improvement would be nice. We're more interested right now with keeping the honest honest. We'll work on tightening up more later, as time and monies permit. TTFN, David Systems Librarian, Louisiana Tech University http://www.latech.edu/tech/library/ javascript list administrator: http://www.mountaindragon.com/javascript From glen at rimu.cce.ac.nz Mon Feb 8 17:38:55 1999 From: glen at rimu.cce.ac.nz (Glen Davies) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: password protection and win95 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990208153240.007da4d0@mail.bayou.com> Message-ID: <2B2246F4CC5@rimu.cce.ac.nz> Hi You need to run poledit (available on win95 install CD) and select File - Open Registry. Then double click the Local Computer icon. If you look under Network - Logon, there is an option to "Require validation by network for windows access", tick this and then exit and save changes to registry. This will prevent anybody running win95 unless authenticated on the network. An easier way would be to find the relevant registry key and export it to a file and then import it into each machine, this would save running poledit on each machine. > Speaking of password protection, the windows logon password protection is > lame. If a person puts in a wrong password, it does not let you in. But, > if you decide to not put one in at all and just hit cancel, it lets you in. > Hello? That's protection? ("Halt, what is the password?" "I don't want > to tell you." "Ok, you can enter..."). Any ideas of how to configure > Win95 to prevent circumventing the Windows logon password dialog box? I > know that any solution will probably only be slightly better than the lousy > protection it gives now, but any improvement would be nice. We're more > interested right now with keeping the honest honest. We'll work on > tightening up more later, as time and monies permit. > > TTFN, > David > Systems Librarian, Louisiana Tech University > http://www.latech.edu/tech/library/ > javascript list administrator: > http://www.mountaindragon.com/javascript ******************************************** Glen Davies IT Librarian Christchurch College of Education Dovedale Ave Christchurch Ph. 64-3-343 7737 glen@rimu.cce.ac.nz http://lib.cce.ac.nz ************************************************ A man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth (Luke 12:15) ************************************************ From merchant at bayou.com Mon Feb 8 16:52:47 1999 From: merchant at bayou.com (David Merchant) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: Password protection and Win95 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990208153240.007da4d0@mail.bayou.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990208155247.007e9100@mail.bayou.com> I forgot to change the subject line. Also, after some emails in response I realize I need to add some more information: we don't have an NT network here, no NT workstations, no NT servers. We are just now getting people upgraded from DOS and Win3.1 (on 286 and 386 machines) to Win95 (replacing mother boards and adding memory so we can do that). Anyway, the post: Speaking of password protection, the windows logon password protection is lame. If a person puts in a wrong password, it does not let you in. But, if you decide to not put one in at all and just hit cancel, it lets you in. Hello? That's protection? ("Halt, what is the password?" "I don't want to tell you." "Ok, you can enter..."). Any ideas of how to configure Win95 to prevent circumventing the Windows logon password dialog box? I know that any solution will probably only be slightly better than the lousy protection it gives now, but any improvement would be nice. We're more interested right now with keeping the honest honest. We'll work on tightening up more later, as time and monies permit. TTFN, David Systems Librarian, Louisiana Tech University http://www.latech.edu/tech/library/ javascript list administrator: http://www.mountaindragon.com/javascript From tdrake at tcjc.cc.tx.us Mon Feb 8 15:07:30 1999 From: tdrake at tcjc.cc.tx.us (Theodore E. Drake) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Internet training: search engines In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 12:07 PM -0800 2/8/99, Nola Sterling wrote: >Dear folks: > >I am doing training on various search engines: strengths, when and how to >search effectively. > >I have one or two articles comparing engines and techniques but would very >much like a table plus descriptions. Is there a site out there where this >kind of training information is available? Hi Nola -- try http://searchenginewatch.com/ t.e.d. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Theodore E. Drake, Ed.D. tdrake@tcjc.cc.tx.us Director of Library Services Voice (817) 515-4513 Jenkins Garrett Library Fax (817) 515-5726 Tarrant County Junior College Ft. Worth, TX 76119 http://www.tcjc.cc.tx.us/south/library/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca Mon Feb 8 17:10:51 1999 From: Darryl.Friesen at usask.ca (Darryl Friesen) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Password protection and Win95 Message-ID: <011f01be53af$e3bf4d60$e84ae980@usask.ca> >I forgot to change the subject line. Also, after some emails in response I >realize I need to add some more information: we don't have an NT network >here, no NT workstations, no NT servers. We are just now getting people >upgraded from DOS and Win3.1 (on 286 and 386 machines) to Win95 (replacing >mother boards and adding memory so we can do that). If you don't have NT workstations/servers to do authentication Glen Davies suggestion (about editing the registry) probably won't work. Otherwise, it's not a bad idea. As for Win95's password protection: I don't think the goal was security so much as it was managing personal preferences/settings etc. Multiple users on the same machine each get their own desktop settings, colors, Start menus etc etc. If you're really concerned about security you should install NT Workstation instead of Windows 95. I see your at an educational institution, so the cost of NT Workstation should be about the same as Windows 95 (maybe less). There may be some 3rd party products that do what you want though. - Darryl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Darryl Friesen, B.Sc., Programmer/Analyst Darryl.Friesen@usask.ca Consulting & Development http://gollum.usask.ca/ Department of Computing Services 163 Murray Building University of Saskatchewan Main Library ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Truth Is Out There" From j-klock at evanston.lib.il.us Mon Feb 8 17:19:48 1999 From: j-klock at evanston.lib.il.us (James Klock) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: [WEB4LIB] Password protection and Win95 Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990208161947.009f1e20@ellington.evanston.lib.il.us> At 01:52 PM 2/8/99 -0800, you wrote: >Any ideas of how to configure >Win95 to prevent circumventing the Windows logon password dialog box? I >know that any solution will probably only be slightly better than the lousy >protection it gives now, but any improvement would be nice. Sorry-- stick to NT, which actually cares who you logon as. You may note that Windows 95 not only allows you to skip the logon, it doesn't care what username you use anyway, as there is NO file security, NO notion of disallowing resources based on username, etc. In fact, the ONLY thing that Windows 95 ever does with Logon information is pass it along to other machines across the network. Windows NT, on the other hand, is at heart a real multiuser operating system, which can be set up with all of these features, even in a non-networked environment. It's still not my favorite multiuser OS, but at least it IS a multiuser OS. James From bennettt at am.appstate.edu Mon Feb 8 17:24:50 1999 From: bennettt at am.appstate.edu (TMGB) Date: Wed May 18 14:19:34 2005 Subject: AOL Instant Messenger PopUp References: <3.0.4.32.19990205124623.009dd1b0@sunspot.tiac.net> Message-ID: <36BF6432.C4114743@am.appstate.edu> I contacted Netscape about a month ago concerning the Netscape Client Customization Kit asking them if it could be used with newer versions of just the navigator. They told me that the recent kit that would customize Communicator (4.5 If I recall correctly) would not work with the stand alone Navigator which is why the Navigator Only option is grayed out. But, there will be a customization kit for Navigator 5.0 whenever Navigator 5.x is released. Until that time you have to settle for the limitations of the 4.07 Navigator CCK. The newest Communicator CCK has some better options than the Navigator version. Also, I've found that the full menu for the CCK would not show up on my screen until I went in and changed the resolution limitation in the java script for the customization kit. I think the current resolution is set for a 640 by 480 window which will not show some options if your screen resolution is set for 800x600 or greater. In case anyone else is having this problem, this is the name of the file and default path: \Netscape\CCK\conf_ed\configed.htm This is the beginning of that page and java script: -