[Publib] RE: High Bridge Bronx NY Library renovation
Wendy Miller
miller at portland.lib.me.us
Sun Mar 1 14:15:54 EST 2009
This isn't a new article but it mentions that the closing is expected to be for two years, so reopening May - June 2009 perhaps. There doesn't seem to be any newer news at least on the internet.
http://www.highbridgehorizon.com/news/may07/library.html
Wendy Miller
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Today's Topics:
1. RE: collective collection development (Meg VanPatten)
2. Re: Reading recycled books (cdubiel at twinsburglibrary.org)
3. Nebraska Library Commission (cemper at inebraska.com)
4. Re: Re: Reading recycled books (Karen Schneider)
5. Re: Re: Reading recycled books (Backwage at aol.com)
6. Re: Re: Reading recycled books (Backwage at aol.com)
7. Re: Re: Reading recycled books (Sharon Foster)
8. Re: magazine shelving (Sue Kamm)
9. Readers' Advisory Training (Jill Nicholson)
10. Mono-Histories (David Wright)
11. Question about the High Bridge (Bronx, NY) Library (Judith Turner)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:21:03 -0500
From: Meg VanPatten <megv at bville.lib.ny.us>
Subject: RE: [Publib] collective collection development
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Our system started using Overdrive about 3 years ago. Every library in the system agreed to spend a percentage of the their materials budget annually. (I think it might have been 1% but I'm not sure.) Each library buys what they want but some do look at what has already been purchased. One library in the system decided it was not getting used enough and they decided to stop participating. Thus their patrons are not able to download anything from Overdrive.
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Subject: [Publib] collective collection development
I am part of a mini-consortium that has been using Overdrive to provide downloadable audio services in our libraries. We equally share the annual fee and we each have an agreed upon dollar amount to spend within each fiscal year. I would greatly appreciate hearing from similar libraries about their collection development mechanisms. Do you have a committee of selectors? Do you utilize standing orders? How do you address meeting some special needs of a particular library? What are some of the stumbling blocks that you've encountered?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:20:36 -0500 (EST)
From: cdubiel at twinsburglibrary.org
Subject: [Publib] Re: Reading recycled books
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Public libraries need to give the public what they want, and majority
rules. We are taxpayer-funded. Yes, certain taxpayers want older books
(I've had the same complaint from many patrons, that libraries aren't what
they used to be) but an overwhelming majority wants DVDs and popular
fiction. We need circs to stay funded, so we need to keep the things on
our shelves that circulate. I work in a four-star library according to
the LJ report and the #1 HAPLR rated in our population category, and
that's how we do things around here. There are plenty of academic
libraries that are happy to loan me those archival items if they are
needed.
Cari Dubiel
Acquisitions Coordinator
Twinsburg Public Library
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:13:33 -0600
From: cemper at inebraska.com
Subject: [Publib] Nebraska Library Commission
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State auditor questions fun and games on state dime.
http://journalstar.com/articles/2009/02/24/news/local/doc49a418a66ca76915001967.txt[1]
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:47:40 -0500
From: Karen Schneider <kgschneider at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Publib] Re: Reading recycled books
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On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:20 PM, <cdubiel at twinsburglibrary.org> wrote:
> Public libraries need to give the public what they want, and majority
> rules. We are taxpayer-funded. Y
More to the point, since Michael started out by saying he rarely goes to the
library I asked myself, so how would he know if these books are available
there? I spot-checked half of them and found they are widely available in
libraries -- I could have them in hand in 10 minutes.
I do buy books, but largely those I need for reference or that I need to
write in. For some strange reason my library objects to that :-)
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:26:27 EST
From: Backwage at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Publib] Re: Reading recycled books
To: cdubiel at twinsburglibrary.org, publib at webjunction.org
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In a message dated 2/28/2009 9:54:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cdubiel at twinsburglibrary.org writes:
Public libraries need to give the public what they want, and majority
rules. We are taxpayer-funded. Yes, certain taxpayers want older books
(I've had the same complaint from many patrons, that libraries aren't what
they used to be) but an overwhelming majority wants DVDs and popular
fiction. We need circs to stay funded, so we need to keep the things on
our shelves that circulate. I work in a four-star library according to
the LJ report and the #1 HAPLR rated in our population category, and
that's how we do things around here. There are plenty of academic
libraries that are happy to loan me those archival items if they are
needed.
When I get this sort of reply, I always wonder if the sender has read my
post. Or if they just want to write something about the realities of the
library. Which I fully understand. And which, though often stated, are often not
true. Even though I have said them myself. Knowing they were only partly
true.
Here's the scoop. It's true that libraries have to serve a broad public.
That was true fifty years ago too, only they also catered to the higher class
of reader, because those folks were politically important and made noise.
There was a philosophy out there about "better books" that was widely
prescribed to. Over time, the constituency changed and the library's view with
it--broadened, true; became inclusive, true; became interested in literacy,
sure--but it left the "better books" folk in the dust. The reply to them: go the
college library, you knucklehead. Well, okay, maybe I'll just do that.
And when I do, I will have shaken the dust of the public library off my
sandals forever. And, instead of posting a huge banner on the back of my truck
supporting the local library levy whenever it comes up, I will just keep mum
and write letters supporting the library of my alma mater(s). You know how
the Boy Scouts and the little league work? People participate in them when
their kids are in that particular age bracket. When the kids grow up, the
parents leave. Now then. If I don't have a personal stake in the public library,
why should I support the institution? Because it's a good idea generally?
Because I'm a dingbat socialist who believes in such things? Both of these
are true, but I know which side my Tolstoy is buttered on.
Finally: ever wonder why it is that librarians, among other educated
people, think that bookstores are terrible these days, turned into flashy
wastelands of non-book items, non-book books and non-book workers? It's because
that's true. It is also becoming true of the library. I avoid the chain book
stores. I am also avoiding the chain-book libraries. You think you can afford
to lose me? Place you bets and we'll see when the wheel stops turning.
M. McGrorty
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:37:55 EST
From: Backwage at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Publib] Re: Reading recycled books
To: kgschneider at gmail.com, publib at webjunction.org
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In a message dated 2/28/2009 11:29:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
kgschneider at gmail.com writes:
More to the point, since Michael started out by saying he rarely goes to the
library I asked myself, so how would he know if these books are available
there? I spot-checked half of them and found they are widely available in
libraries -- I could have them in hand in 10 minutes.
Bad bet. I just checked Pasadena Public's site for any of the last five
books I bought, and found one. Of the last ten, two. Of course, of the two
that I found, there were numerous copies. Maybe I could read them one after the
other? Pasadena is a nice, large public library system. Now I suppose I am
directed to do ILL and/or drive down to Los Angeles Public?
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:41:09 -0500
From: Sharon Foster <fostersm1 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Publib] Re: Reading recycled books
To: Backwage at aol.com
Cc: publib at webjunction.org, cdubiel at twinsburglibrary.org
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But public libraries do serve the "better books folks." The difference
is that sometimes they have to wait a few days longer for a book than
the latest pop thriller folks. (But note that sometimes they have to
wait their turn, too.) If someone really really needs an oop book
immediately, I point them to Amazon, Alibris, ABEbooks, or B&N used
book dealers.
Sharon M. Foster, 91.7% Librarian
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On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:26 PM, <Backwage at aol.com> wrote:
> In a message dated 2/28/2009 9:54:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> cdubiel at twinsburglibrary.org writes:
>
> Public libraries need to give the public what they want, and majority
> rules.? We are taxpayer-funded.? Yes, certain taxpayers want older books
> (I've had the same complaint from many patrons, that libraries aren't what
> they used to be) but an overwhelming majority wants DVDs and popular
> fiction.? We need circs to stay funded, so we need to keep the things on
> our shelves that circulate.? I work in a four-star library according to
> the LJ report and the #1 HAPLR rated in our population category, and
> that's how we do things around here.? There are plenty of academic
> libraries that are happy to loan me those archival items if they are
> needed.
>
> When I get this sort of reply, I always wonder if the sender has read my
> post.? Or if they just want to write something about the realities of the
> library.? Which I fully understand.? And which, though often stated, are
> often not true.? Even though I have said them myself.? Knowing they were
> only partly true.
>
> Here's the scoop.? It's true that libraries have to serve a broad public.
> That was true fifty years ago too, only they also catered to the higher
> class of reader, because those folks were politically important and made
> noise.? There was a philosophy out there about "better books" that was
> widely prescribed to.? Over time, the constituency changed and the library's
> view with it--broadened, true; became inclusive, true; became interested in
> literacy, sure--but it left the "better books" folk in the dust.? The reply
> to them:? go the college library, you knucklehead.? Well, okay, maybe I'll
> just do that.
>
> And when I do, I will have shaken the dust of the public library off my
> sandals forever.? And, instead of posting a huge banner on the back of my
> truck supporting the local library levy whenever it comes up, I will just
> keep mum and write letters supporting the library of my alma mater(s).? You
> know how the Boy Scouts and the little league work?? People participate in
> them when their kids are in that particular age bracket.? When the kids grow
> up, the parents leave.? Now then.? If I don't have a personal stake in the
> public library, why should I support the institution?? Because it's a good
> idea generally?? Because I'm a dingbat socialist who believes in such
> things?? Both of these are true, but I know which side my Tolstoy is
> buttered on.
>
> Finally:? ever wonder why it is that librarians, among other educated
> people, think that bookstores are terrible these days, turned into flashy
> wastelands of non-book items, non-book books and non-book workers?? It's
> because that's true.? It is also becoming true of the library.? I avoid the
> chain book stores.? I am also avoiding the chain-book libraries.? You think
> you can afford to lose me?? Place you bets and we'll see when the wheel
> stops turning.
>
> M. McGrorty
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:01:34 -0800
From: "Sue Kamm" <suekamm at mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [Publib] magazine shelving
To: "Leslie Schow" <lschow at slcolibrary.org>, <publib at webjunction.org>
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We use sloping shelves to display current issues, and magazine files (Highsmith, because they're colorful) on stacks near the display area. We keep approximately five years (fewer for periodicals we get on microfilm).
Your friendly neighborhood CyberGoddess and ALA Councilor-at-Large,
Sue Kamm
Los Angeles/Inglewood, CA
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Subject: [Publib] magazine shelving
I am in the process of designing a new library. We are pondering our options for shelving magazines. I would really appreciate hearing from anyone who does not use the flip up shelves. How do you shelve back issues? What do you like/dislike about this method?
Thanks,
Leslie Schow
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:42:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Jill Nicholson <jillanicholson at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Publib] Readers' Advisory Training
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Should not Readers' Advisory be taught separately (along with Viewers' and Listeners' Advisory)?? The knowledge base for Readers' Advisory and Reference is different.
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Jill Nicholson
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:38:39 -0800 (PST)
From: David Wright <dwright333 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Publib] Mono-Histories
To: Fiction_L <Fiction_L at maillist.webrary.org>
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We've had a post on Shelf Talk this week about that very popular 'mono-history' genre that has just taken off (the post & the genre), so I know that some of you readers advisors out there will want to take a look at it, and maybe add your own comments:
http://shelftalk.spl.org/2009/02/24/viewing-history-with-a-tightly-focused-lens/
David Wright http://shelftalk.spl.org ????? ?"Que Scay-Je?"
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:35:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Judith Turner <turnermalibmba at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Publib] Question about the High Bridge (Bronx, NY) Library
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Greetings, all --
Can someone from the area tell me when the High Bridge Branch of the NYPL will reopen? The hours and locations page on the NYPL website indicates the library was closing for major renovation in June 2007. The branch's page doesn't seem to have any info, other than PDF's of architectural drawings (PDF's which refuse to turnsideways in my browser :-(
It's odd how NYPL stuck with the earliest name for the neighborhood which came from the High Bridge across the Harlem River at the western boundary of the area some distance away from the library. One would expect to find the library over there, perhaps near the park. Instead it's between Woodycrest and Shakespeare Avenues.
Friday evening I took a walk around this neighborhood (where 3 generations of Campbells and Clynes once lived) courtesy Google street views. I've always been a map afficionado -- forget about collecting books, it's maps of all sizes and vintages I want and keep. Street views is the tops! But I do wish they were dated because I'm not sure when this area was done -- it's clearly warm weather (late spring or summer judging by the trees).
Nothing of the library is visible as far as I can tell so it's after June 2007. Since I recall there being an entrance up a flight of stairs from the W. 168th St. side (this was the late 50's/early 60's) it's hard to imagine that portion wouldn't extend above the construction barriers if it still existed in '07.
Judy Turner
Whitefish Bay, WI
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