[Publib] Issues with the PUBLIB mailing list

[Robert Balliot]

Shannon -

What you see as a member of the list is only what people post.  I think
about 90% of the postings
are from about 1% of the members.  If you receive a message from someone at
OCLC, it goes
directly to list members - not though the same path you receive
messages from the list.  You cannot
respond to it - since it is an OCLC generated list derived from the members.

They can see archive traffic and searches and have a list of all current
members and their addresses.
Karen's follow up message says that 'many vendors ARE on this list'.  That
is because she can
see who they are.  You cannot - nor can any of the vendors such as Thompson
and Gale who subscribe.

And, yes, we do want vendors to know what we want.  However, they do not
have equal access.

R. Balliot
http://oceanstatelibrarian.com




On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Hammock, Shannon
<SHammock at riversideca.gov>wrote:

>  Greetings,
>
> I am not sure what access OCLC has to any of us that any other vendor
> couldn't have. All any other vendor would have to do is sign up on PubLib
> and they too could see the discussion about our needs and problems, just
> like OCLC can do from reading the very same, very public list. If I was a
> smart vendor, I know I would sign up on all these lists to see what
> potential customers are saying what they want. I am not sure that's evil
> though, just smart business. Plus, don't we want the vendors to know what we
> want so that their products in the marketplace reflect what we need to do
> our job?
>
> Shannon
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* publib-bounces at webjunction.org on behalf of Robert Balliot
> *Sent:* Sun 6/28/2009 5:00 PM
> *To:* Sue Kamm
>
> *Cc:* publib at webjunction.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Publib] Issues with the PUBLIB mailing list
>
>   9000 self-renewing perpetual sales leads discussing the needs and
> problems of their
> institutions representing hundreds of millions of dollars in buying power.
>
> I think most vendors would pay for that sort of access and bragging rights
> to host.
>
>
> R. Balliot
> http://oceanstatelibrarian.com
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Sue Kamm <suekamm at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> An important part of what we may want from PUBLIB is whether
>> WebJunction/OCLC can supply it and at what cost.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Karen Schneider <kgschneider at gmail.com>
>> >Sent: Jun 28, 2009 1:52 PM
>> >To: Robert Balliot <rballiot at gmail.com>
>> >Cc: publib at webjunction.org
>> >Subject: Re: [Publib] Issues with the PUBLIB mailing list
>> >
>> >On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Robert Balliot<rballiot at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Karen,
>> >>
>> >> It is certainly beneficial to OCLC to host the list and have access to
>> all
>> >> of the
>> >> subscribers email addresses and content.  Offering a server space to
>> handle
>> >> the listserve is not big money, nor is it particularly complicated. It
>> is
>> >> simply
>> >> partitioned space.
>> >
>> >
>> >This discussion isn't about OCLC -- it's about PUBLIB, and what we as
>> >a community want for it. The fact (and it *is* a fact) is that running
>> >a mailing list, particularly a mailing list with a large membership
>> >and a huge archive, is about far more than "simply partitioned space."
>> >I manage and co-administrate several other mailing lists on other
>> >servers, from small personal lists to larger lists for agencies.  If
>> >it were trivial to keep our mailing list optimized, we wouldn't be
>> >having this conversation.
>> >
>> >I affirm Joe Schallan's observation that we seem to have a chronic
>> >subscription-related problem, and as noted in my earlier post, I add
>> >that we as a group might well want to discuss PUBLIB's future (and not
>> >in terms of what our host is or is not doing for us, but in terms of
>> >what we want and how we want to meet those needs).
>> >
>> >Karen / PUBLIB
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>>
>>
>> Your friendly CyberGoddess and Councilor-at-large,
>> Sue Kamm
>> Inglewood/Los Angeles, CA
>> Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000
>> Visit my blog:  http://suekamm.blogspot.com
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>> --Vin Scully
>>
>
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