[Publib] Tragic News

Mon Feb 2 16:50:37 EST 2009

I did not know either Kate nor Kathy but the loss of youth advocates seems
to carry a double sting to me.A sad way to find out about their work. I
second the poster who emphasized that the only person at fault was the woman
who decided to drive impaired.
 My sympathies to their loved ones - I know what is like to lose a family
member to a drunk driver. The tendency is not to blame someone else as much
as keep falling back to finding or wishing there was just one thing that
could have changed events/brought them back - it's part of the grieving
process & it includes list members who knew them.

Karen Mahnk,
Reference Librarian
Lake Park Public Library
529 Park Avenue
Lake Park, Fl., 33403
561 881-3330 Fax: 561881-3336
kmahnk at lakeparkflorida.gov
www.lakepark-fl.gov
Opinions are mine not my employer.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Camila Alire <calire at att.net> wrote:

> Janice --
> When I was interviewed about Kate here in Denver -- the only word I could
> come up with in terms of her personality was "spunky" but you are right --
> "moxie" says it all for Kate.  I was not blessed to know Kathy.  They will
> both be sorely missed.  CAMILA
>
>   *Dr. Camila Alire*
>
> *ALA** President-elect *
>
> *ALA-APA President-elect*
>
> *http://www.camilaalire.com*
>
> *ALAlire Blog:  http://camilaalire.wordpress.com*
>
> *Dean Emeritus
> University of New Mexico
>   & Colorado State University
> 7070 Ridgeview Circle
> Sedalia, CO  80135
> Home:  303-814-2724
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>
>
>
>
>  Janice Greenberg wrote:
>
> I would like to bring this thread back to Kate and Kathy.
>
> I was reading earlier tonight Kate's candidate q & a's on the ALSC blog
> from last year. When asked "How has your membership in ALSC impacted library
> service to children, Kate wrote at the end of her statement "*No question
> that the leadership experience I have gained through ALSC has made me a more
> powerful leader-administrator in advocating for youth within my own library
> community. Twice a year I am steeped in new information and new models of
> exceptional leadership both of which will give me the moxie and
> determination to move ahead on behalf of all children!"
>
> As I wrote on the ALSC blog, "*Both Kate and Kathy had the "moxie and
> determination" which made them "exceptional leaders." They were also, with
> all due respect, two of the best advocates for youth around."
>
> Janice
>
> Janice Greenberg
> morjan102785 at yahoo.com
> http://morjan.wordpress.com
>
> "The meaning of life
> is to build a life
> as if it were a piece of art."
> --Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
>
>
>
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> *From:* s shoar <sshoar at ualibrary.org> <sshoar at ualibrary.org>
> *To:* lchlebanowski at avondale.org; cforeman at auroragov.org;
> publib at webjunction.org; mjsoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org
> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2009 5:22:52 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RE: [Publib] Tragic News
>
> *Well librarians can't always do the right thing!  alas! we are fallible!*
>
>
> On Friday, January 30, 2009 5:11:45 PM, Mary Soucie wrote:
>
> Hi Lise,
> I have to admit when I'm in the back seat I don't often wear a seat belt. I
> find them cumbersome and extremely uncomfortable. Often when I'm just
> bizzing around town, I forget to put it on. My son tells me this is stupid
> and he's right. About the only time he gets away with it too. :-)
>  Happy Friday!
>
> Mary J. Soucie, MLIS
> Library Director
> Wilmington Public Library District
> Visit the world @ your library™
> 201 S Kankakee St
> Wilmington IL 60481
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> mjsoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org
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>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* publib-bounces at webjunction.org [
> mailto:publib-bounces at webjunction.org <publib-bounces at webjunction.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Lise Chlebanowski
> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2009 2:34 PM
> *To:* Foreman, Carol; publib at webjunction.org
> *Subject:* RE: [Publib] Tragic News
>
> I'm the jerk who started down this seatbelt path in the first place, so
> I'll just say that I think that everyone who has commented on this has been
> extremely careful NOT to blame the passengers or the shuttle company,
> backhanded, front handed and side handed, and I'm pretty sure we are all
> aware from reading the article in the first e-mail that Ms. Jacobsen was
> totally to blame. It is not the fault of anyone not wearing a seatbelt! For
> heaven's sake let's just take this as a lesson learned going forward. That's
> all I was trying to say. I have been guilty of getting into cabs with no
> seatbelts and crossing my fingers because I was in a hurry or too
> embarrassed to get out. And I'm sure that was the case for them as well. We
> are all just saying, that going forward we will think twice about riding
> beltless!
>  And by the way, since it is Friday we need to brighten up the
> tone...let's hear from those who don't believe in seat belts! ;-)
>
> Lisë Chlebanowski
> Library Manager
> Sam Garcia Western Avenue Library
> 495 E. Western Ave.
> Avondale, AZ 85323
> 623-333-2611 D
> 623-333-0260 F
> lchlebanowski at avondale.org
> Now Reading on my Kindle: Two for the Dough by Janet Evanovich
> Now Reading: One Bite with a Stranger by Christine Warren
> Now Listening: The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* publib-bounces at webjunction.org [
> mailto:publib-bounces at webjunction.org <publib-bounces at webjunction.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Foreman, Carol
> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2009 1:17 PM
> *To:* publib at webjunction.org
> *Subject:* RE: [Publib] Tragic News
>
>  Hello all,
>
> Seems to me that some of us are in a backhanded way blaming the victims of
> this terrible accident. Seatbelts aside…the lady who hit them and left the
> scene is to blame. Let it be known her name is Sandra Lee Jacobson and she
> has had numerous problems with the law before this penultimate accident…I
> for one always wear a seatbelt as most of you, and I bet you anything that
> if our friends were here today they would say that they always wore a
> seatbelt as well. Carol Foreman/publib
>
>  *From:* publib-bounces at webjunction.org [
> mailto:publib-bounces at webjunction.org <publib-bounces at webjunction.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Karen Schneider
> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2009 1:08 PM
> *To:* Lise Chlebanowski
> *Cc:* publib at webjunction.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Publib] Tragic News
>
> I should underscore that it is rare for me to get into a cab or van that
> doesn't have working seatbelts, and I very much doubt this van didn't. Just
> to be fair to the company, which I am sure is very unhappy about what
> happened!
>
> Karen / PUBLIB
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Lise Chlebanowski <
> lchlebanowski at avondale.org> wrote:
>
> This incident has certainly made me know that I will never ride in a cab or
> shuttle without a seatbelt. If there's any silver lining to this tragic
> story it's that this whole list has been shaken up and that we resolve like
> some of us already have, to always wear seatbelts in public transportation
> from now on. Dr. Alire has it right. Wait for another cab or shuttle that
> has working seatbelts.
>
> It may be schmaltzy, but Kathy and Kate's lives were so meaningful and what
> they gave back to their library so important and now even in the end they
> had something to teach us all. I'll remember them every time I buckle up!
>
> Lisë Chlebanowski
>
> Library Manager
>
> Sam Garcia Western Avenue Library
>
> 495 E. Western Ave.
>
> Avondale, AZ 85323
>
> 623-333-2611 D
>
> 623-333-0260 F
>
> lchlebanowski at avondale.org
>
> Now Reading on my Kindle: Two for the Dough by Janet Evanovich
>
> Now Reading: One Bite with a Stranger by Christine Warren
>
> Now Listening: The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* publib-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:
> publib-bounces at webjunction.org] *On Behalf Of *Karen Schneider
> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2009 8:32 AM
> *To:* calire at att.net
> *Cc:* publib at webjunction.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Publib] Tragic News
>
> I nearly always insist on working seatbelts and have stopped cabs and
> gotten out without them. Sometimes peer pressure can be tough. People laugh
> it off. I sat between two people on the shuttle to the airport who shrugged
> off using the working, accessible seatbelts -- even when I made a point of
> fastening mine. Two years ago a friend of mine survived a bad cab accident
> --she was buckled in -- but watched the driver -- not in a seatbelt -- die.
>
> I think this is something we can work into our conference regime.
>
> I disagree on the "9 times out of 10" for seatbelts. I think people shrug
> them off too often. I am VERY sorry two librarians were killed in such a
> tragic accident and they didn't make that driver drink and drive -- but
> let's not blame the shuttle driver since in shuttles, especially, you can
> almost always find vehicles with working belts, and it shouldn't be the
> driver's job to make his customers behave sensibly.
>
> Let's work harder on buckling up, and on being choosy consumers who don't
> get into unsafe vehicles --and on encouraging one another to buckle up.
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Camila Alire <calire at att.net> wrote:
>
> For those of us who travel a lot, getting in cabs does not guarantee that
> you can get to their seatbelts. What I mean by that, you can't find the
> connector. It is usually stuck between the seats and it is virtually
> impossible to get it out. I think NYC [?] is the only city that requires
> cabs to have their seatbelts handy and to require passengers to wear them.
>
> Everytime I get in a cab, I reach for the belt but 9 times out of 10, you
> can't find the connector or the belts do not work.
>
> Based on what happened to Kate and Kathy, I have now decided to ask the
> cabbie or doorman to retrieve the seatbelt or I won't ride that cab. I know
> that I am very uncomfortable riding a vehicle without my seatbelt on.
>
> I want to add that it has been my experience that airport shuttle buses
> most always have seatbelts handy that work.
>
> Nonetheless, I feel for Kate and Kathy's families. We truly have lost 2
> dedicated leaders in children's services.
> CAMILA
>
>
> *Dr. Camila Alire*
>
> *ALA President-elect *
>
> *ALA-APA President-elect*
>
> *http://www.camilaalire.com*
>
> *ALAlire Blog: http://camilaalire.wordpress.com*
>
> *Dean Emeritus
> University of New Mexico
> & Colorado State University
> 7070 Ridgeview Circle
> Sedalia, CO 80135
> Home: 303-814-2724
> Cell: 303-913-8341*
>
>
>
> Lise Chlebanowski wrote:
>
> If only they had been wearing seatbelts :-(
>
> How tragic.
>
> Lisë Chlebanowski
>
> Library Manager
>
> Sam Garcia Western Avenue Library
>
> 495 E. Western Ave.
>
> Avondale, AZ 85323
>
> 623-333-2611 D
>
> 623-333-0260 F
>
> lchlebanowski at avondale.org
>
> Now Reading on my Kindle: Two for the Dough by Janet Evanovich
>
> Now Reading: One Bite with a Stranger by Christine Warren
>
> Now Listening: The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* publib-bounces at webjunction.org [
> mailto:publib-bounces at webjunction.org <publib-bounces at webjunction.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Susan Pieper
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:02 AM
> *To:* publib at webjunction.org
> *Subject:* [Publib] Tragic News
>
> We just learned this morning of the tragic deaths of two of our colleagues
> on their way to the Denver airport after Mid-Winter.
>
> http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_11578036
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/cutxtw
>
> Sincere sympathies go out to their families, co-workers and communities.
> This was so senseless and tragic. May we all hold our families and loved
> ones tighter.
>
> Susan
>
> --
> Susan Pieper, Director
> Paulding County Carnegie Library
> 205 S. Main Street
> Paulding, OH 45879
> 419-399-2032 voice and 419-399-2114 fax
> Editor, Rural Library Services Newsletter
> www.pauldingcountylibrary.org
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