[Publib] 1st Amendment Rights

Thu Aug 6 12:30:55 EDT 2009

But you're posting all of this information on public forums - on the internet. It would only make sense that someone could see this info... nothing any more frightening than when, in the old days, you posted a message on a corkboard at the city hall - or scratched your name and phone number on a bathroom wall at Denny's. 

> Subject: RE: [Publib] 1st Amendment Rights
> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:39:15 -0500
> From: lguidarini at aapld.org
> To: kristie_boucher at hotmail.com
> CC: publib at webjunction.org
> 
> True, but now they can Google me and find everywhere I've commented,
> find my blog and read it, know my personal views, etc. And marketers
> target me based on verbage in my emails. I've seen ads change based on
> what I've just written. I see that when I'm discussing something obscure
> with a friend, then an ad pops up with the same theme. It's funny, but
> scary.
> 
> People could find you in the old days, but now they can find you much
> faster, and with much more detail.
> 
> Lisa Guidarini
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kristie Boucher [mailto:kristie_boucher at hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:33 AM
> To: Lisa Guidarini
> Cc: publib at webjunction.org
> Subject: RE: [Publib] 1st Amendment Rights
> 
> Haven't read that book yet. 
> 
> However, to play devil's advocate. Back in the day when people actually
> used phone books, more than likely anyone could have found you, your
> address and your phone number all in the phone book, provided that you
> were not unlisted. They could have then drove by your house and saw
> where you lived. 
> 
> Would've taken a little more time and they would have to have known what
> city you were in (or spent more time looking), but anyone could have
> found you before the Internet. 
> 
> 
> 
> Kristie Boucher, MLIS
> Associate Director 
> Crawford County Library System 
> 111 North Twelfth Street 
> Van Buren, AR 72956 
> 479-471-3226
> http://www.crawfordcountylib.org/
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Join me
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> 
> 
> > Subject: RE: [Publib] 1st Amendment Rights
> > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:13:56 -0500
> > From: lguidarini at aapld.org
> > To: rballiot at gmail.com
> > CC: publib at webjunction.org; fredbeisser at mesanetworks.net
> > 
> > If we knew the full truth of where that info goes, and how it's used,
> I
> > think it would astound us. I read this book recently, and it put the
> > fear of technology into me:
> > 
> > The Peep Diaries: How We're Learning to Love Watching Ourselves and
> Our
> > Neighbors by Hal Niedzviecki
> > 
> > Paperback: 256 pages 
> > Publisher: City Lights Publishers (June 1, 2009) 
> > Language: English 
> > ISBN-10: 0872864995
> > 
> > I recommend it, but it's scary. My husband didn't even want to read
> it. 
> > 
> > Any of you could look at my house from all sides. You can Google me,
> get
> > my address, and look at my house. My phone number is out there. Anyone
> > who wants to find me could easily do so. Anyone with any intention.
> > 
> > Lisa Guidarini
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Balliot [mailto:rballiot at gmail.com] 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:20 AM
> > To: Lisa Guidarini
> > Cc: Fred Beisser; publib at webjunction.org
> > Subject: Re: [Publib] 1st Amendment Rights
> > 
> > 
> > It doesn't take an Einstein
> > <http://blog.executivebiz.com/nsa-at-chertoff-weighs-in/3134> to
> realize
> > that internet traffic is simply not private. Everything you
> > send and receive on the internet or transmit over any device can be
> > compromised. However, forwarding
> > an e-mail to a government agency effectively removes the burden on the
> > government to
> > maintain privacy - it becomes part of the body of information within
> the
> > government network. 
> > 
> > The Marines
> >
> <http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2009/08/05/237200/us-marines-are
> > -social-networking-outcasts.html> recently banned use of social
> > networks for a year. My sense is that when they
> > get Einstein 3 up and running, they will be able to deal with the
> OPSEC
> > issues that social
> > networks create and allow limited access again.
> > 
> > I do believe it is important to deal with disinformation and much of
> the
> > disinformation
> > being pushed out there regarding Health Care is manipulated by the
> > industry's for profit 
> > lobbyists. It is noteworthy how many are using European horror stories
> > of socialized medicine
> > that are very hard to verify - rather than Canadian. It is very, very
> > easy however to verify
> > US medical horror stories of subscribers to HMOs denied the care they
> > needed for the
> > purpose of maintaining and increasing corporate profits.
> > 
> > R. Balliot
> > http://oceanstatelibrarian.com <http://oceanstatelibrarian.com/> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Lisa Guidarini <lguidarini at aapld.org>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > How did people research this stuff pre-internet, that's what I
> > want to
> > know! It's wonderful how we can point to this and that website
> > and have
> > it all at our fingertips.
> > 
> > I appreciate the fire behind all the messages today. It shows
> > passion,
> > and that we care. We'll never all agree, and that's not a bad
> > thing. We
> > have a two-party system for a reason. Those founding fathers
> > were pretty
> > darn smart with the checks and balances.
> > 
> > In a decade we can look back and know what all this was about.
> > Too bad
> > we can't see into the future.
> > 
> > Lisa Guidarini
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fred Beisser [mailto:fredbeisser at mesanetworks.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:16 PM
> > To: publib at webjunction.org
> > 
> > Cc: Diedre Conkling
> > Subject: Re: [Publib] 1st Amendment Rights
> > 
> > 
> > I would suggest that everyone also read the info at
> > http://tinyurl.com/ly6bzk which compares what is said by the
> > Prez versus
> > 
> > what others around him are saying.....not the same words so they
> > must be
> > 
> > on two different pages.
> > 
> > As a last resort to get to the truth of what "America's
> > Affordable
> > Health Choices Act of 2009" (H.R. 3200) really will do, read the
> > text at
> > 
> > http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:H.R.3200:
> > 
> > And regarding 1st Amendment infringement, read the item at
> > http://tinyurl.com/nynzzq .
> > 
> > Enjoy!!
> > 
> > Fred Beisser
> > 
> > Diedre Conkling wrote:
> > > The link contributed is a good one and gives more information
> > on the
> > > issue. I hope that, as librarians, you are interested in
> > finding out
> > 
> > > the facts and more complete information and will click on the
> > link.
> > >
> > > As far as health care issues go, and other political issue, I
> > find it
> > > helpful to look at http://www.factcheck.org/ . They seem to
> > do a fair
> > 
> > > job saying what is true, what is a bit of a stretch and what
> > is false.
> > >
> > > Enjoy.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Lisa Guidarini
> > <lguidarini at aapld.org
> > > <mailto:lguidarini at aapld.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From White House blog
> > > (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/
> > ):
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance
> > reform
> > > out there, spanning from control of personal finances to
> > end of
> > > life care. These rumors often travel just below the
> > surface via
> > > chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we
> > can't keep
> > > track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking
> > for
> > > your help. If you get an email or see something on the web
> > about
> > > health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to
> > > flag at whitehouse.gov <mailto:flag at whitehouse.gov> ."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thought police?
> > >
> > > If this is repugnant to you, please flood the email
> > address above
> > > with:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *Subject*: 1^st Amendment of Our Constitution
> > >
> > > *Amendment 1** - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression
> > > <http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html#exp>.
> > Ratified
> > > <http://www.usconstitution.net/constamrat.html#BoR>
> > 12/15/1791.*
> > > //Note
> > <http://www.usconstitution.net/constnotes.html#Am1>//
> > >
> > > Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
> > > religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or
> > abridging
> > > the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of
> > the people
> > > peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for
> > a
> > > redress
> > <http://www.usconstitution.net/glossary.html#REDRESS> of
> > > grievances.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Lisa Guidarini
> > >
> > > Adult Program Coordinator
> > >
> > > Algonquin Area Public Library District
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Diedre Conkling
> > > Lincoln County Library District
> > > P.O. Box 2027
> > > Newport, OR 97365
> > > Work phone & fax: 541-265-3066
> > > Work email: diedre at beachbooks.org
> > <mailto:diedre at beachbooks.org>
> > > Home email: diedre08 at gmail.com <mailto:diedre08 at gmail.com>
> > >
> > 
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