[Publib] 1st Amendment Rights

Thu Aug 6 11:13:56 EDT 2009

If we knew the full truth of where that info goes, and how it's used, I
think it would astound us. I read this book recently, and it put the
fear of technology into me:

The Peep Diaries: How We're Learning to Love Watching Ourselves and Our
Neighbors by Hal Niedzviecki

Paperback: 256 pages 
Publisher: City Lights Publishers (June 1, 2009) 
Language: English 
ISBN-10: 0872864995

I recommend it, but it's scary. My husband didn't even want to read it. 

Any of you could look at my house from all sides. You can Google me, get
my address, and look at my house. My phone number is out there. Anyone
who wants to find me could easily do so. Anyone with any intention.

Lisa Guidarini

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Balliot [mailto:rballiot at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:20 AM
To: Lisa Guidarini
Cc: Fred Beisser; publib at webjunction.org
Subject: Re: [Publib] 1st Amendment Rights

It doesn't take an Einstein
<http://blog.executivebiz.com/nsa-at-chertoff-weighs-in/3134> to realize
that internet traffic is simply not private. Everything you
send and receive on the internet or transmit over any device can be
compromised.  However, forwarding
an e-mail to a government agency effectively removes the burden on the
government to
maintain privacy - it becomes part of the body of information within the
government network.  

The Marines
<http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2009/08/05/237200/us-marines-are
-social-networking-outcasts.html>  recently banned use of social
networks for a year. My sense is that when they
get Einstein  3 up and running, they will be able to deal with the OPSEC
issues that social
networks create and allow limited access again.

I do believe it is important to deal with disinformation and much of the
disinformation
being pushed out there regarding Health Care is manipulated by the
industry's for profit 
lobbyists. It is noteworthy how many are using European horror stories
of socialized medicine
that are very hard to verify - rather than Canadian.  It is very, very
easy however to verify
US medical horror stories of subscribers to HMOs denied the care they
needed for the
purpose of maintaining and increasing corporate profits.

R. Balliot
http://oceanstatelibrarian.com <http://oceanstatelibrarian.com/> 

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Lisa Guidarini <lguidarini at aapld.org>
wrote:

	How did people research this stuff pre-internet, that's what I
want to
	know! It's wonderful how we can point to this and that website
and have
	it all at our fingertips.

	I appreciate the fire behind all the messages today. It shows
passion,
	and that we care. We'll never all agree, and that's not a bad
thing. We
	have a two-party system for a reason. Those founding fathers
were pretty
	darn smart with the checks and balances.

	In a decade we can look back and know what all this was about.
Too bad
	we can't see into the future.

	Lisa Guidarini

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Fred Beisser [mailto:fredbeisser at mesanetworks.net]
	Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:16 PM
	To: publib at webjunction.org

	Cc: Diedre Conkling
	Subject: Re: [Publib] 1st Amendment Rights

	I would suggest that everyone also read the info at
	http://tinyurl.com/ly6bzk which compares what is said by the
Prez versus

	what others around him are saying.....not the same words so they
must be

	on two different pages.

	As a last resort to get to the truth of what "America's
Affordable
	Health Choices Act of 2009" (H.R. 3200) really will do, read the
text at

	http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:H.R.3200:

	And regarding 1st Amendment infringement, read the item at
	http://tinyurl.com/nynzzq .

	Enjoy!!

	Fred Beisser

	Diedre Conkling wrote:
	> The link contributed is a good one and gives more information
on the
	> issue.   I hope that, as librarians, you are interested in
finding out

	> the facts and more complete information and will click on the
link.
	>
	> As far as health care issues go, and other political issue, I
find it
	> helpful to look at http://www.factcheck.org/ .  They seem to
do a fair

	> job saying what is true, what is a bit of a stretch and what
is false.
	>
	> Enjoy.
	>
	> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Lisa Guidarini
<lguidarini at aapld.org
	> <mailto:lguidarini at aapld.org>> wrote:
	>
	>
	>
	>
	>
	>
	>
	>     From White House blog
	>     (http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/
):
	>
	>
	>
	>     "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance
reform
	>     out there, spanning from control of personal finances to
end of
	>     life care.  These rumors often travel just below the
surface via
	>     chain emails or through casual conversation.  Since we
can't keep
	>     track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking
for
	>     your help. If you get an email or see something on the web
about
	>     health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to
	>     flag at whitehouse.gov <mailto:flag at whitehouse.gov> ."
	>
	>
	>
	>     Thought police?
	>
	>     If this is repugnant to you, please flood the email
address above
	>     with:
	>
	>
	>
	>     *Subject*: 1^st Amendment of Our Constitution
	>
	>     *Amendment 1** - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression
	>     <http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html#exp>.
Ratified
	>     <http://www.usconstitution.net/constamrat.html#BoR>
12/15/1791.*
	>     //Note
<http://www.usconstitution.net/constnotes.html#Am1>//
	>
	>     Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
	>     religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or
abridging
	>     the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of
the people
	>     peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for
a
	>     redress
<http://www.usconstitution.net/glossary.html#REDRESS> of
	>     grievances.
	>
	>
	>
	>     Lisa Guidarini
	>
	>     Adult Program Coordinator
	>
	>     Algonquin Area Public Library District
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	> Work phone & fax:  541-265-3066
	> Work email:  diedre at beachbooks.org
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