[Publib] Book discussion group
Catharine Cook
cathcook at chickasha.lib.ok.us
Fri Mar 9 09:56:04 EST 2007
Erin -
Without knowing a little more about the members of your book discussion
group, it would be foolish to make suggestions. However, I won't let that
stop me! If your members are primarily young women, here are a couple of
non-fiction titles that might be of interest to them:
Girls who went away : Hidden history of women who surrendered children for
adoption in the decades before Roe v. Wade by Ann Fessler. Some younger
women don't know what it was like to be unmarried and pregnant back in the
'50s and '60s. These are case studies and interviews with women who found
themselves in that situation and were sent away to homes for unwed mothers.
It is fascinating reading and will make you cry.
If the members of your group are young unmarried Christian women, you might
try Henry Cloud's How to get a date worth keeping: be dating in six months
or your money back. This is published by Zondervan, so make no mistake that
it is definitely written for a Christian audience. But the money back
guarantee is kinda nifty, don't you think?
And finally, I share your frustration in trying to get people to broaden
their reading fields. I buy wonderful non-fiction books and then have to
twist people's arms to get them to read one, and then they have the nerve to
say it was just wonderful and why don't I buy more like that!
Sigh! Into every librarian's life a few readers who know their own tastes
and don't want to change must fall.
Catharine Cook
Chickasha (Ok.) Public Library
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1. Re: Swimsuit Issue of Sports Illustrated (Kimberly White)
2. Re: Swimsuit Issue of Sports Illustrated (Mary Donley)
3. Community Information Databases (Vickie Turcotte)
4. difficult children (Cheri Nienke)
5. Re: Publib Digest, Vol 24, Issue 6 (Lucia Duncan)
6. RE: Swimsuit Issue of Sports Illustrated (Rawles-Heiser, Carolyn)
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8. Swimsuit issue (Mark Smith)
9. RE: Swimsuit Issue of Sports Illustrated (Adelaide Rowe)
10. Intersting Locations Our Materials End Up In (Melissa Callahan)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:11:08 -0500
From: "Kimberly White" <kim_dir at chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: [Publib] Swimsuit Issue of Sports Illustrated
To: "Cranmer, Donna" <dcranmer at SIOUXFALLS.org>, "Mary K Chelton"
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We never get any of the special issues of SI with our subscription.
Kimberly White
Director
T. A. Cutler Memorial Library
312 Michigan Ave.
St. Louis, MI 48880
(989) 681-5141
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Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: [Publib] Swimsuit Issue of Sports Illustrated
Mary K.
I just chatted with our Serials librarian--but in our case and a lot of
other libraries-the issue was not sent at all. She reports that there
has been a multitude of angry comments on whatever Serials listserv she
subscribes to. Her issue came at home so she knew it was published, and
she managed to find one copy in a 'Back issues bank' that we participate
in, but has been told by our vendor that no others are available. We
have 5 subscriptions to SI. Sigh!
Donna
Donna Cranmer
Technical Services Librarian
Siouxland Libraries
201 N Main Ave
PO Box 7403
Sioux Falls, SD 57117-7403
605-367-8712
dcranmer at siouxfalls.org
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Subject: [Publib] Swimsuit Issue of Sports Illustrated
A student alerted me to a listserv post indicating that Time, Inc.
had arbitrarily send the annual swimsuit issue of Sports Illustrated
to all institutional subscribers without the photos. Is this true for
your institution? I know the issue is contentious in school
libraries, but this seems awfully drastic and raises a lot of
intellectual freedom issues for me, if it is.
Mary K.
Mary K. Chelton
Professor, GSLIS
Queens College (CUNY)
254 Rosenthal Library
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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:42:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Mary Donley <marydonley at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Publib] Swimsuit Issue of Sports Illustrated
To: Backwage at aol.com, mchelton at optonline.net, publib at webjunction.org
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If they had a Swimsuit issue of LJ, I would pray
for censorship! Our library is between vendors
for periodicals so we just bought the swimsuit
issue @ a local newsstand.
Mary
--- Backwage at aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 3/7/2007 8:16:49 A.M. Pacific
> Standard Time,
> mchelton at optonline.net writes:
>
> A student alerted me to a listserv post indicating
> that Time, Inc.
> had arbitrarily send the annual swimsuit issue of
> Sports Illustrated
> to all institutional subscribers without the photos.
> Is this true for
> your institution? I know the issue is contentious
> in school
> libraries, but this seems awfully drastic and raises
> a lot of
> intellectual freedom issues for me, if it is.
>
>
> This doesn't disturb me as much as if they censored
> the swimsuit issue of
> Library Journal. By the way, if you did remove the
> pictures from the Sports
> Illustrated swimsuit issue, you'd have about ten
> lines of text and some beer
> ads. I'd check on the source of that information.
>
> M. McGrorty
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 12:42:17 -0500
From: "Vickie Turcotte" <vturcotte at mvlc.org>
Subject: [Publib] Community Information Databases
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Hello everyone,
We are making some decisions about the future of our Community Information
database, and trying to look at what, if anything, other public libraries
have been doing. A quick search of the web finds few active databases of
the kind we offer (MARC-type records detailing info about non-profit
organizations in our community - http://www.community.mvlc.org/ ).
We've gone around and round discussing whether the whole idea is outdated,
that you can find most of this stuff on the web, that our users are finding
it themselves, that it's too time intensive for little return, etc. But
some of us swear by the database and use it successfully all the time.
Are libraries still actively maintaining Comm Info databases? If not, where
do you go to help patrons find this kind of info? Or do you find that
patrons aren't asking for this anymore?
Our database right now is a separate MARC file that we manage and access
through SirsiDynix's Horizon products. (I know Triple I offers a similar
arrangement.) If you still have Comm Info, what do you use as the
database?
Thanks for any replies and brilliant insights.
Vickie
Vickie Turcotte
Head of Technical Services
Chelmsford Public Library
25 Boston Rd.
Chelmsford, MA 01824
(978) 256-5521 x106
Fax (978) 256-8511
vturcotte at mvlc.org
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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:45:40 -0600
From: "Cheri Nienke" <cnienke at andoverlibrary.org>
Subject: [Publib] difficult children
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We have a situation that has developed with a young child. He is three,
and he becomes destructive - throwing chairs, markers, shoving other
children, during storytimes-- on a regular basis. Have you had this
problem, and how have you resolved it. The mother cannot control him,
and today he got in the office and opened the tap on our drinking water.
Lovely mess.
Thanks for any guidance, Cheri
Cheri Nienke
Assistant Director
Andover Public Library
937 N. Andover Rd.
Andover, KS 67002
316-733-4599
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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:58:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Lucia Duncan <luciad34 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Publib] Re: Publib Digest, Vol 24, Issue 6
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To Dale McNeil, in reference to fiction vs
non-fiction,
Many early childhood curriculums touch on fiction and
non-fiction, and Head Start students in the state of
KY have to be able to identify the difference. To try
to teach this in any more technical terms than fiction
= not true or made up stories and non-fiction =
information or facts (or true stories) gets too
technical for 3 and 4 year olds. Perhaps the children
you work with are working at a higher level and
congratulations for that. But to get upset when you
think teachers are doing an injustice to our children
might be a bit critical. One has to understand the
audience. As children get older, then we build on that
information and give them more detail about fiction
vs. non-fiction.
Cut our teachers some slack. They are still trying to
figure out how to Leave No Child Behind and still get
a raise.
Thanks for the thoughts. It made me think a bit more
as well.
And about the Jeff Foxworthy show, I heard him on a
morning radio show last week and he laughed and said
he needed the notes a great deal of the time because
he didn't know most of the answers.
I heard a rumor Spring might be coming. Keep your eyes
and ears alert to random acts of Spring!
Lucia Duncan
Louisville Free Public Library
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> 11. RE: advice (James Casey)
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> 15. Foundation Fund Raising Ideas (Cathy L.
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> 16. Re: It's a fiction that there's fiction in
> Dewey (Dale McNeill)
> 17. RE: It's a fiction that there's fiction in
> Dewey
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> 18. RE: advice (Sue Kamm)
> 19. RE: It's a fiction that there's fiction in
> Dewey (Kathleen Horan)
> 20. RE: It's a fiction that there's fiction in
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> 22. RE: It's a fiction that there's fiction in
> Dewey
> (matthew & vicki chavez)
> 23. 2 Positions Manager Sarasota County Library
> System Florida
> (andrea ginsky)
> 24. teen tech week (Kathleen Fargo)
> 25. Re: teen tech week (scronce at optonline.net)
> 26. Re: Publib Digest, Vol 24, Issue 5 (Leila C.
> Shapiro)
> 27. RE: teen tech week (Hopkins County -
> Madisonville Public Library)
> 28. RE: Foundation Fund Raising Ideas
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> 29. RE: It's a fiction that there's fiction in
> Dewey (Shaw, Matthew M)
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> One of my staff members has decided she wants to
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> I recently started a graduate program in library
> science at a rather ripe
> old age, or should I say an older age? :) And, after
> reading a months worth
> of posted messages on this site, I am beginning to
> wonder at my employment
> opportunities after I receive my masters degree.
> As a consequence, Im
> looking for advice: in order to enhance those
> opportunities, would all of
> you recommend that I specialize in one particular
> sector of the program and,
> if so, what area? Or would it be better to combine
> the program with another
> graduate program, like American History for example,
> and receive a masters
> degree in both? The latter would take more time, of
> course, and cost a
> great deal more money. In the long run, would it be
> worth it?
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:26:31 -0800
From: "Rawles-Heiser, Carolyn"
<Carolyn.Rawles-Heiser at ci.corvallis.or.us>
Subject: RE: [Publib] Swimsuit Issue of Sports Illustrated
To: "Mary K Chelton" <mchelton at optonline.net>,
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Our serials person confirmed we have not received it either. He had
been wondering why and was getting ready to follow up with Ebsco.
He said there is a way for institutions to choose to not receive this
issue if they so designate, but that we have always chosen to provide
it. It lasts about 2 days here before it is stolen.
Carolyn Rawles-Heiser
Library Director
Corvallis--Benton County Public Library
645 NW Monroe Ave.
Corvallis, OR 97330
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Subject: [Publib] Swimsuit Issue of Sports Illustrated
A student alerted me to a listserv post indicating that Time, Inc.
had arbitrarily send the annual swimsuit issue of Sports Illustrated to
all institutional subscribers without the photos. Is this true for your
institution? I know the issue is contentious in school libraries, but
this seems awfully drastic and raises a lot of intellectual freedom
issues for me, if it is.
Mary K.
Mary K. Chelton
Professor, GSLIS
Queens College (CUNY)
254 Rosenthal Library
65-30 Kissena Blvd.
Flushing, NY 11357
mchelton at optonline.net
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:46:54 -0500
From: "Karen Mahnk" <kmahnk at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Publib] difficult children
To: "Cheri Nienke" <cnienke at andoverlibrary.org>
Cc: publib at webjunction.org
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We've had similar problems w/ screaming kids - parents have become
deaf to their whines/cries but it drives the rest of the patrons in
our little library batty. I end up offering the patio for a bit but
gently let them know that it's getting too much/too long for the
child... I almost always get a positive response from the parent...
other times indifference.
Other than tactfully presenting her with a copy of one of your best
child behavior/parenting books as well as a copy of one of Deapok
Chopra's books on family love..You can only give her the directive
that the child has not reached the maturity level to remain in the
library very long and becasue his safety & that of others is at stake,
she has to take the child home/outside. Let her know that "this too
shall pass & as soon as he gets by this phase, you all will be looking
forward to having him at story time again. I think as long as you're
nonjudgemental w/ mom & assure her that w/ gentle but firm parenting,
he'll be fine, she should take it positively.
--
Karen Mahnk,
Reference Librarian
Lake Park Public Library
529 Park Avenue
Lake Park, Fl., 33403
561 881-3330 Fax: 561881-3336
kmahnk at lakeparkflorida.gov
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On 3/7/07, Cheri Nienke <cnienke at andoverlibrary.org> wrote:
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> We have a situation that has developed with a young child. He is three,
and
> he becomes destructive b
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