[mail] RE: [Publib] Proof of address & photo ID on cards

[Mary Donley]

Donna,

The last part of your post cracked me up.  Sometimes
when I am making a library card, I imagine I see the
words "will definitely steal the GED books" tatooed
on the patron's forehead.

Mary

--- "Cranmer, Donna" <dcranmer at SIOUXFALLS.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> 	My problem would be with the Requirement for a
> picture. I do not
> trust anybody not to keep my records safe from
> hacking, such as my
> fitness center staff deciding to take its file of
> pictures and
> distributing them to other departments of the huge
> medical complex of
> which it is a part, and attaching my picture to my
> medical file, etc. Or
> even mixing them up so that my picture gets replaced
> by another female
> one who is not me. It has happened (and I wish I
> could cite the article
> that discussed it.) I would equate this on the
> difficulty of someone
> being declared dead. Trying to get it fixed would be
> a nightmare.
> 
> 	Now I will admit--I did opt in on my church
> directory. That was
> my choice. Nor do I have any problem with my DL
> picture, or even an
> employer photo ID. But while a picture ID may verify
> you are
> you-possibly-it will not verify that you are
> entitled to service, or if
> you are a registered sex offender, or that you are
> likely to steal or
> otherwise lose materials.
> 
> 		Donna
> 
> Donna Cranmer
> Technical Services Librarian
> Siouxland Libraries
> 201 N Main Ave
> PO Box 7403
> Sioux Falls, SD 57117-7403
> 605-367-8712
> dcranmer at siouxfalls.org
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: publib-bounces at webjunction.org
> [mailto:publib-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of
> Diedre Conkling
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 2:33 PM
> To: PUBLIB
> Subject: Re: [mail] RE: [Publib] Proof of address &
> photo ID on cards
> 
> You don't consider it a hurdle to have one's picture
> taken but I do.
> Which makes me wonder what the patron view would be
> since we are in
> disagreement.
> 
> --
> Diedre Conkling
>      
>   Lincoln County Library District
>   P.O. Box 2027, Newport, OR  97365
>   Phone & Fax:  541-265-3066
>   http://lcld.library-blogs.net/
>   Work:  diedre at beachbooks.org
>   Home:  diedrec at charter.net
>    
> 
> ---- Bishop O'Rourke Library <library at sjcnc.org>
> wrote: 
> 
> =============
> It doesn't seem to be creating an unreasonable
> hurdle if the library
> takes 
> the picture and does so at the same time that one
> applies for the
> library 
> card (just as getting one's picture taken at the DMV
> isn't really an
> extra 
> hurdle in getting a license, it's just part of the
> process).
> 
> In a library that wants/needs that added security of
> photo
> identification it 
> would seem that putting the picture directly on the
> library card
> alleviates 
> a hurdle because then a patron needn't have or carry
> a picture ID to use
> the 
> card.
> 
> Melissa Martinez
> Librarian, Bishop O'Rourke Library
> Institute of Catholic Thought
> St. John's Catholic Newman Center
> Phone: (217) 255-6610
> Email: library at sjcnc.org
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Diedre Conkling" <diedrec at charter.net>
> To: "PUBLIB" <publib at webjunction.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:44 PM
> Subject: [mail] RE: [Publib] Proof of address &
> photo ID on cards
> 
> 
> > Whether or not it is an invasion of privacy it is
> one more hurdle that
> we 
> > put up and expect people wanting to use our
> libraries to jump.  For
> all 
> > but children, if you what to check a picture ID
> you could ask to see
> their 
> > drivers license, picture ID or whatever like
> stores do.  It was
> mentioned 
> > earlier that stores do this.  I wanted to add that
> though stores check
> ID 
> > they do not require you have a picture taken and
> put on their card to
> have 
> > service.  They also don't require and ID if you
> pay cash.  So the 
> > comparison does not totally work.  And I hate
> adding barriers.  We do
> it 
> > way too much in our libraries.
> >
> > --
> > Diedre Conkling
> >
> >  Lincoln County Library District
> >  P.O. Box 2027, Newport, OR  97365
> >  Phone & Fax:  541-265-3066
> >  http://lcld.library-blogs.net/
> >  Work:  diedre at beachbooks.org
> >  Home:  diedrec at charter.net
> >
> >
> > ---- Bishop O'Rourke Library <library at sjcnc.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > =============
> > Could someone please further explain how they see
> photo ID cards as an
> > invasion of privacy?
> >
> > My thought is that my face is out there everyday
> and constantly being 
> > seen,
> > so my image isn't private information.  Putting
> this public
> information on 
> > a
> > card that is kept in my possession raises no
> concerns for me.
> > Like Val, I see it as a reasonable means of
> loss-prevention.  What am
> I
> > missing?
> >
> > Melissa Martinez
> > Librarian, Bishop O'Rourke Library
> > Institute of Catholic Thought
> > St. John's Catholic Newman Center
> > Phone: (217) 255-6610
> > Email: library at sjcnc.org
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Val Stark" <VStark at quincylibrary.org>
> > To: <publib at webjunction.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:39 AM
> > Subject: [mail] RE: [Publib] Proof of address &
> photo ID on cards
> >
> >
> > I see a photo ID on a library card as a
> protection, not an invasion.
> > I'm ok with the clerk in the store who asks for ID
> when scanning my
> > credit/debit card, etc.  I'm ok with a health
> center not wanting their
> > membership cards borrowed by someone who isn't
> paying the membership
> > fee.  I'm ok with the video store who asks for my
> drivers license
> before
> > charging movies to my account.
> 
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