[mail] RE: [Publib] Proof of address & photo ID on cards

[Sue Kamm]

I believe in California you have the option of a photo on your ID/driver's
license or a thumbprint.  

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> [Original Message]
> From: Bishop O'Rourke Library <library at sjcnc.org>
> To: <publib at webjunction.org>
> Date: 8/9/2007 12:10:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [mail] RE: [Publib] Proof of address & photo ID on cards
>
> It doesn't seem to be creating an unreasonable hurdle if the library
takes 
> the picture and does so at the same time that one applies for the library 
> card (just as getting one's picture taken at the DMV isn't really an
extra 
> hurdle in getting a license, it's just part of the process).
>
> In a library that wants/needs that added security of photo identification
it 
> would seem that putting the picture directly on the library card
alleviates 
> a hurdle because then a patron needn't have or carry a picture ID to use
the 
> card.
>
> Melissa Martinez
> Librarian, Bishop O'Rourke Library
> Institute of Catholic Thought
> St. John's Catholic Newman Center
> Phone: (217) 255-6610
> Email: library at sjcnc.org
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Diedre Conkling" <diedrec at charter.net>
> To: "PUBLIB" <publib at webjunction.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:44 PM
> Subject: [mail] RE: [Publib] Proof of address & photo ID on cards
>
>
> > Whether or not it is an invasion of privacy it is one more hurdle that
we 
> > put up and expect people wanting to use our libraries to jump.  For all 
> > but children, if you what to check a picture ID you could ask to see
their 
> > drivers license, picture ID or whatever like stores do.  It was
mentioned 
> > earlier that stores do this.  I wanted to add that though stores check
ID 
> > they do not require you have a picture taken and put on their card to
have 
> > service.  They also don't require and ID if you pay cash.  So the 
> > comparison does not totally work.  And I hate adding barriers.  We do
it 
> > way too much in our libraries.
> >
> > --
> > Diedre Conkling
> >
> >  Lincoln County Library District
> >  P.O. Box 2027, Newport, OR  97365
> >  Phone & Fax:  541-265-3066
> >  http://lcld.library-blogs.net/
> >  Work:  diedre at beachbooks.org
> >  Home:  diedrec at charter.net
> >
> >
> > ---- Bishop O'Rourke Library <library at sjcnc.org> wrote:
> >
> > =============
> > Could someone please further explain how they see photo ID cards as an
> > invasion of privacy?
> >
> > My thought is that my face is out there everyday and constantly being 
> > seen,
> > so my image isn't private information.  Putting this public information
on 
> > a
> > card that is kept in my possession raises no concerns for me.
> > Like Val, I see it as a reasonable means of loss-prevention.  What am I
> > missing?
> >
> > Melissa Martinez
> > Librarian, Bishop O'Rourke Library
> > Institute of Catholic Thought
> > St. John's Catholic Newman Center
> > Phone: (217) 255-6610
> > Email: library at sjcnc.org
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Val Stark" <VStark at quincylibrary.org>
> > To: <publib at webjunction.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:39 AM
> > Subject: [mail] RE: [Publib] Proof of address & photo ID on cards
> >
> >
> > I see a photo ID on a library card as a protection, not an invasion.
> > I'm ok with the clerk in the store who asks for ID when scanning my
> > credit/debit card, etc.  I'm ok with a health center not wanting their
> > membership cards borrowed by someone who isn't paying the membership
> > fee.  I'm ok with the video store who asks for my drivers license before
> > charging movies to my account.
> >
> > We had an incident last summer with a child who lost his card, didn't
> > report it (yes, it is the parent/patron's responsibility to do so) and
> > we lost $600 worth of material. If the face in the photo and the face in
> > front of us hadn't matched, we wouldn't have checked out on that card.
> >
> > We do require proof of address & photo ID. Unfortunately, there are
> > people out there who lie to us by claiming children not their own for
> > the purpose of using that card because they have fines on their own
> > cards.
> >
> > This is the world we live in and the few who aren't honest, make it
> > difficult for the majority who are honest.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> >
> > Val Stark
> >
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