From bosc at gvsu.edu Mon May 1 00:47:02 2006 From: bosc at gvsu.edu (Carole Bos) Date: Mon May 1 00:47:04 2006 Subject: [Publib] United 93 with Primary Sources and Childrens' Response Message-ID: "United 93," a new film about passengers who prevented September 11 hijackers from using a plane to damage or destroy a Washington building, was released on Friday. Family members of the victims cooperated with the film's producers. With primary sources, including the flight's recordings, news videos (from the BBC) and the official 9-11 Commission Report, students can learn what actually happened aboard the flight as passengers thwarted the hijacker's objectives. Also featured, in chapter 12, is the response of American children to the events of September 11. Their art work is now part of the U.S. national archives. http://www.awesomestories.com/disasters/america_attacked/america_attacked_ch1.htm The website http://www.awesomestories.com/ is free for all educators, schools and libraries. Simply request an academic membership with this sign-up form. http://www.awesomestories.com/group_signup.php Carole Bos Grand Valley State University Dean's Advisory Board From nbhilyard at zblibrary.org Mon May 1 09:23:20 2006 From: nbhilyard at zblibrary.org (Nann Blaine Hilyard) Date: Mon May 1 09:23:24 2006 Subject: [Publib] NYPL Salary Message-ID: <9191C938D9F9504388C55F1225A34F7912081D@ZBPLSRV04.zblibrary.local> Seems to me that you could find out easily by calling the NYPL human resources office. It's public information. Nann @the library in Zion, Illinois ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Leah Habersham Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:26 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] NYPL Salary Does anyone know the starting salary for a public Librarian I with the NYPL? I'm interested in finding out... I looked on salary.com, but I think this is wrong... I always thought NYC librarians made less than Nassau County librarians. ________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2?/min or less. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060501/e88663f6/attachment.htm From jneff at olatheks.org Mon May 1 10:10:06 2006 From: jneff at olatheks.org (Joshua Neff) Date: Mon May 1 10:10:29 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship In-Reply-To: <20060429052934.42952.qmail@web34604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004d01c66d28$fdbf9b30$3202a8c0@olathe.lib.ks.us> Short answer: Rupert Giles, from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and the author Jorge Luis Borges. Long answer: I grew up using public libraries. There were particular books I loved that I never saw in bookstores but found in public libraries all over the US (my family moved a lot). But I never thought, "I want to be a librarian when I grow up." When I was an undergrad, I got a job at the checkout desk of my university library. I worked there for 4 years, outlasting two supervisors. I later worked at various public libraries. But it wasn't until I my last paraprofessional public library job, when I was wondering "What will I do with my life with a BA in English?" that it dawned on me to go to grad school and get my MLS. I love working in libraries, so... So, there you go. --Joshua M. Neff Indian Creek Branch Olathe Public Library _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Leah Habersham Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 12:30 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship Just out of curiosity... what inspired you to become a librarian? _____ Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060501/8dce1ea8/attachment.htm From lesleyk at rpl.lib.ar.us Mon May 1 10:51:50 2006 From: lesleyk at rpl.lib.ar.us (Lesleyk) Date: Mon May 1 10:48:42 2006 Subject: [Publib] FW: Online Petition: LC's abandonment of SAR creation In-Reply-To: <20060429160005.37B96189AE6@lists.webjunction.org> References: <20060429160005.37B96189AE6@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060501094850.0192b708@wheresmymailserver.com> In all honesty, our catalogers' response to the news was "Good!" We always end up deleting LC series entries and create our own, based on what the patrons actually request. We generally use authors websites, book covers, and popular resources like Amazon to create series tracers -- and do lots of X-refs. Lesley Knieriem Readers Advisory Rogers Public Library Rogers AR From lchlebanowski at avondale.org Mon May 1 10:48:12 2006 From: lchlebanowski at avondale.org (Lise Chlebanowski) Date: Mon May 1 10:50:31 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship Message-ID: 1. Collection Development/Selection which has all but been taken away by centralized selection. 2. Answering cool reference questions - again - gone with the Internet - now we just get goofy questions. 3. Intellectual Freedom. I guess I don't have to worry about that going away! Lise Chlebanowski Avondale Public Library Avondale, AZ ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of Leah Habersham Sent: Fri 4/28/2006 10:29 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship Just out of curiosity... what inspired you to become a librarian? ________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. From rbronson at hrl.lib.state.va.us Mon May 1 11:11:25 2006 From: rbronson at hrl.lib.state.va.us (Rebecca Bronson) Date: Mon May 1 11:08:32 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Why librarianship Message-ID: <004601c66d31$848d84d0$1304a8c0@hrlblstaff19> It truly is the last refuge for the renaissance person; it helps to know a little bit about a lot of topics (I do--I think :)). Hand in hand with that, you never look up the same thing twice in two days (unless there's a school project), so I'm never bored at work. The biggest reason I'm in this job, tho, is because it allows me to be a part of something in the community that matters. The library is one of the great societal equalizers. We provide access to those without; we are often the service providers of last resort. See: the recent thread on services to the homeless. Here's an example from our library just last week: I was on the desk and a woman came up and said that she had just left her husband and he had locked her out. She had no phone, no computer, no way to get in touch with her family. She didn't have a library card, nor did she have ID on her to get one. We put her on one of our computers as a guest, where she could contact her family and friends and let them know that she was ok and on her way to a shelter. I also got her the number for our local crisis hotline for further services. She was deeply grateful, and if we hadn't been here, I'm not sure what she would have done. Rebecca Bronson Reference Librarian Handley Regional Library P.O. Box 1300 Stephens City, VA 22655 540-869-9000 (voice) 540-869-9001 (fax) www.hrl.lib.state.va.us From lsmith at pittsfield.lib.me.us Mon May 1 11:14:05 2006 From: lsmith at pittsfield.lib.me.us (Lyn Smith) Date: Mon May 1 11:14:25 2006 Subject: [Publib] Donor categories Message-ID: <4455ED7D.21459.917240@lsmith.pittsfield.lib.me.us> Here are two lists I have colleted, but have not used. Lyn Smith Pittsfield Public Library, Maine Donor categories Letter 5-99 Word 100-249 Sentence 250-499 Paragraph 500-999 Page 1000-2,499 Chapter 2,500-4,999 Book 5,000-9,999 Volume 10,000-24,999 Set 15,000-24,999 Genre 25,000-+ Donor Categories Rare Books First Editions Classics Award Winners Best Sellers All-time Favorites -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060501/71a9d20c/attachment.htm From edward_elsner at lycos.com Mon May 1 11:28:36 2006 From: edward_elsner at lycos.com (Edward Elsner) Date: Mon May 1 11:28:53 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Barcode placement on materials Message-ID: <20060501152836.EC7E7CA0BB@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> We have moved to placing the barcode on the front of all our books, usually in the top left corner. Once we had Wifi and laptops with scanners for our inventory, we noticed it was much, much easier (factor of a hundred) to simply tilt out the paperbacks we'd been barcoding on the front and scan them. I found I could do a whole shelf of paperbacks in the time it took to do a handful of hardcovers with barcodes inside the front cover. With covers being highly graphic in nature, usually with one piece of artwork for the whole front, we've never found ourselves unable to place a barcode somewhere on the front of the book. Edward Elsner, Director & Consultant Delton District Library P.O. Box 155 Delton, MI 49046 (269) 623-8040 ddl@mei.net -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From a.lewis at saginawlibrary.org Mon May 1 12:04:16 2006 From: a.lewis at saginawlibrary.org (Audrey Lewis) Date: Mon May 1 12:08:20 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship In-Reply-To: <20060429052934.42952.qmail@web34604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060429052934.42952.qmail@web34604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4455F942.BF3B.008D.0@saginawlibrary.org> The fact that I have always enjoyed reading, the library atmosphere etc. When I was a child, the librarians at my branch library were very helpful and kind to me and "spoiled" me a lot....saving the newest Black Stallion book, recommending things to me, having little chats about books with me whenever I came in. I thought "how wonderful to be in a place where you could do this all day...learn about books and share it and take care of the books". Also, when I became disenchanted with practice teaching in college, an English professor at my college suggested librarianship and I remembered my early ambitions to join their hallowed ranks!! You may have deduced from this that I am a Geezer Librarian. When I entered library school, computers where huge things that took up entire rooms! LOL Audrey Lewis Audrey Lewis Director Hoyt Library 505 Janes Street Saginaw, MI 48607 989-755-0904 >>> Leah Habersham 4/29/2006 1:29 am >>> Just out of curiosity... what inspired you to become a librarian? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. 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I did absolutely love public libraries when I was a kid because I had the feeling that every idea in the world was in the library, and no-one could stop you from finding out about them. (Growing up in a conservative household, that was an exciting freedom.) I'm trying hard to create a library that I would have enjoyed as a kid -- a welcoming place where a person's inquisitive spirit is treated with respect. And, not incidentally, it is important to me that my job allows "service" to be part of my daily life. Anne Killheffer Reference Librarian Stratford Library Association 2203 Main St., Stratford, CT 06615 203-385-4164 anne@stratford.lib.ct.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060501/02702ab6/attachment.htm From PKiesner at cob.org Mon May 1 13:43:38 2006 From: PKiesner at cob.org (PKiesner@cob.org) Date: Mon May 1 13:47:39 2006 Subject: [Publib] Position opening - Bellingham, WA Message-ID: Head of Information and Reader Services, Bellingham Public Library, Bellingham, Washington DESCRIPTION: Due to a recent retirement, the Bellingham Public Library, located in beautiful Bellingham, Washington, is seeking an experienced librarian for this leadership role. The Head of Information and Reader Services plans and directs the development and implementation of information and reader services, and is responsible for Collection Development. Responsibilities include: directing the delivery of adult reference and information services; readers? advisory; making recommendations regarding budget, policy, services and personnel matters; and, serving as a member of the management team. REQUIREMENTS: - ALA accredited Masters Degree of Library or Information Science and Washington State Certification as librarian (at time of hire). - 3 years of progressively responsible professional library experience. - 3 years of customer service experience. - 2 years of supervisory experience. - 2 years of experience in collection development and readers? advisory. - Public library experience preferred. BENEFITS: Bellingham Public Library offers excellent benefits, including medical, dental and vision coverage for employees and dependents, plus life insurance and long-term disability insurance for employees and an employee assistance program. Our benefits package includes 22 days of paid vacation to start, 12 paid holidays per year, and paid sick leave. Employees participate in the Washington State Retirement System. Additional benefit programs include the option to participate in a flexible spending plan for health care/dependent care, a retirement health savings plan, and deferred compensation plans. TO APPLY: Obtain application materials, information about Bellingham Public Library, and more from the employment page of the City of Bellingham?s website: www.cob.org/cob/jobpost.nsf or call 360-676-6855, ext. 599. Submit the following: - A completed City of Bellingham application form - Cover letter and resume - Narrative description of your three or four major career accomplishments and your role in achieving them. (Omission of this narrative, separate from the resume and cover letter, will reduce the credit awarded for experience.) For earliest consideration, apply by 5:00 p.m. on Friday, May 19, 2006. For additional information regarding this position, please contact: Lorna Klemanski, Human Resources Analyst 360-676-6960 lklemanski@cob.org Or: Pamela Nyberg Kiesner, Director Bellingham Public Library 210 Central Avenue CS-9710 Bellingham, WA 98227-9710 Phone: (360) 676-7794 x.221 Fax: (360) 647-6371 http://www.bellinghampubliclibrary.org Bellingham Public Library is the...Power of Information...Discovery of Ideas...Joy of Reading! From MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org Mon May 1 13:52:10 2006 From: MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org (Mary J. Soucie) Date: Mon May 1 13:53:05 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship Message-ID: <35A3685E8502B5428734A99EDA6E5E5120D32D@server.wilmingtonlibrary.org> Nice thread. I always wanted to be a teacher and then a librarian. When other kids were playing school, I was playing school and library. :-) I never wanted to be a director but here I am and here I'll stay- at least for now. Mary Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Leah Habersham Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 12:30 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship Just out of curiosity... what inspired you to become a librarian? _____ Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060501/a06fc7cc/attachment.htm From MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org Mon May 1 13:56:29 2006 From: MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org (Mary J. Soucie) Date: Mon May 1 13:57:21 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship Message-ID: <35A3685E8502B5428734A99EDA6E5E5120D32E@server.wilmingtonlibrary.org> P.S. My mom was a reference librarian and when I was a kid, I practically lived at the library. I did my first Storytime at 18 as a volunteer at the library I grew up in. As a joke I often say I became a librarian because I couldn't afford the fines anymore. LOL Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Mary J. Soucie Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:52 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Publib] Why Librarianship Nice thread. I always wanted to be a teacher and then a librarian. When other kids were playing school, I was playing school and library. :-) I never wanted to be a director but here I am and here I'll stay- at least for now. Mary Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Leah Habersham Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 12:30 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship Just out of curiosity... what inspired you to become a librarian? _____ Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060501/fdcb0e6a/attachment.htm From lchlebanowski at avondale.org Mon May 1 13:59:40 2006 From: lchlebanowski at avondale.org (Lise Chlebanowski) Date: Mon May 1 13:59:45 2006 Subject: [Publib] Administrative Librarians (was Why Librarianship) Message-ID: I didn't want to be a director/library manager either and I hear that so much from other colleagues. I wonder what the ratio is of those who really had administrative goals all along and those of us who fell into it by accident! Lis? Chlebanowski Library Manager Avondale Public Library 328 W. Western Ave. Avondale, AZ 85323 623-478-3105 ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Mary J. Soucie Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:52 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Publib] Why Librarianship Nice thread. I always wanted to be a teacher and then a librarian. When other kids were playing school, I was playing school and library. :-) I never wanted to be a director but here I am and here I'll stay- at least for now. Mary Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Leah Habersham Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 12:30 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship Just out of curiosity... what inspired you to become a librarian? ________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ehlers mehlers@grpl.org Grand Rapids Public Library 111 Library St., Grand Rapids, MI 49503 T: 616/988-5402 x5460 F: 616/988-5422 __________ "O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!" -- Jabberwocky From VStark at quincylibrary.org Mon May 1 14:59:21 2006 From: VStark at quincylibrary.org (Val Stark) Date: Mon May 1 14:59:27 2006 Subject: [Publib] Vendor at PLA Message-ID: <16D15A13085A9548BFFCEFD9244CCA820C5BCA@COQ_EXCHANGE.ci.quincy.il.us> I am hoping the collective brain can help me. I was at PLA in Boston. There was a vendor displaying DVD security cases. They were basically indestructible and "locked." Does anyone remember this? Can anyone tell me who the vendor is? They seemed to be a newer supplier and not one of the big names. I have gone through the PLA program and looked through all the exhibitors and nothing seems to click. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any help! 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Jessica MacLeod Secretary to the LBOT Floral Park Public Library Floral Park, NY --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1?/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060501/5601c05b/attachment.htm From lgot at loc.gov Mon May 1 16:49:09 2006 From: lgot at loc.gov (Laura Gottesman) Date: Mon May 1 16:49:17 2006 Subject: [Publib] LC: Prints and Photographs Division: Archive of One of America's Earliest News Picture Agencies Now Online! Message-ID: Posted on behalf of a colleague: The Library of Congress's Prints & Photographs Division is pleased to announce that all the negatives in the George Grantham Bain news photograph collection (nearly 40,000 glass negatives in all) have now been digitized and are available for searching in the Prints and Photographs Online Catalog. The collection, which represents the archive of one of America's earliest news picture agencies, features an array of personalities, news events, sports coverage, and sites, particularly in New York City, for the period 1900-1931. More information about the collection is available at: < http://memory.loc.gov/pp/ggbainhtml/ggbainabt.html > The Prints & Photographs Online Catalog (PPOC) < http://www.loc.gov/rr/print/catalog.html > provides access through group or item records to about 65% of the Division's holdings, a portion of which are accompanied by digital images. The records represent the variety of materials held in the nearly 14 million items in the Division's collections. In addition to photographs, these include fine and popular prints and drawings, posters, and architectural and engineering drawings. The collections are international in scope and are particularly rich in materials produced in, or documenting the history of, the United States and the lives, interests and achievements of the American people. Other collections that have recently become available in PPOC include: -World War I Posters: All of the posters are now cataloged online with accompanying digital images. The nearly 1,900 posters feature strong representation of U.S., Canadian, British, German, and French posters. To search and view the posters, go to the Prints and Photographs Online Catalog , select the blue button labeled: "Search the Catalog," and then scroll down the alphabetical list of collections and select "Posters: World War I Posters." -Photographs from the Carol M. Highsmith Archive: The Archive features photographs of landmark buildings and architectural renovation projects in Washington, D.C., and throughout the United States. Other photo assignments show President Ronald Reagan meeting with Republican Senatorial candidates, as well as historic sites in Lexington, Virginia. The first 23 groups of photographs contain more than 2,500 images and date from 1980 to 2005, with many views in color as well as black-and-white. The archive is expected to grow to more than 50,000 photographs covering all of the United States. More information about the collection is available at: < http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pp/highsmhtml/highsmabt.html -Vaudeville and Motion Picture Theater Drawings by Anthony Dumas: A collection of more than 250 pen and ink drawings of theater facades from across the United States can now be retrieved in PPOC. Dumas created these theater "portraits" at a time of transition (1916-1934), when vaudeville was yielding to the movie palaces of the 1920's and '30's. In addition to documenting the theater architecture in some detail, marquee text often names vaudeville performers and film titles and stars. To search and view the drawings, go to the Prints and Photographs Online Catalog , select the blue button labeled: "Search the Catalog," and in the search box, type "Anthony Dumas" -LOT (Group) Catalog Cards Converted: Old card catalog descriptions for almost 12,000 groups of pictures containing more than 1.5 million photographs and prints are now available as brief online records in a set called "Groups of Images in High Demand." To search these records, go to the Prints and Photographs Online Catalog , select the blue button labeled: "Search the Catalog," and then scroll down the alphabetical list and select "Groups of Images in High Demand." Rely on keyword searching for best results and use the "Check for online items from this group" link to see if any images from the group display online. For information on new collections and recent and upcoming activities in the Prints and Photographs Division, see the division's "What's New" page . For questions about the Prints and Photographs Online Catalog or the holdings and services of the Prints and Photographs Division, consult our Ask a Librarian service: . >>>>> Laura Gottesman Digital Reference Team The Library of Congress http://www.loc.gov/index.html From weissman at main.morris.org Mon May 1 16:50:32 2006 From: weissman at main.morris.org (Sara Weissman) Date: Mon May 1 16:50:31 2006 Subject: [Publib] NISO webinars Message-ID: <36075.192.168.54.254.1146516632.squirrel@192.168.54.254> Register now for two NISO-sponsored SUSHI Webinars The Standardized Usage Statistics Harvesting Initiative (SUSHI) is a NISO working group that is developing an automated request and response protocol for moving Project COUNTER (Counting Online Usage of Networked Electronic Resources) Code of Practice usage statistics from providers to library electronic repositories. SUSHI will help libraries make better decisions by reducing the administrative overhead of using Project COUNTER statistics. Project COUNTER was launched in 2002 to help librarians and publishers in the recording and exchange of usage statistics for electronic resources, initially journals and databases. By following COUNTER's Code of Practice, vendors can provide library customers with Excel or CSV (comma delimited) files of usage data using COUNTER's standardized formats and data elements. The result is a consistent, credible, and compatible set of usage data from multiple content providers. These events are ** free to 100 registrants ** through the generous sponsorship of : EBSCO Information Services Ex Libris Serials Solutions Swets Information Services Thomson Scientific May 17, 2006 - 11-12:00 EDT Introduction to Librarians and Content Providers May 24, 2006 - 11-12:00 EDTThe Technology Unveiled Please register by May 10 for the first webinar and May 17 for the second. Registration: http://niso.webex.com Please note: Maximum registration accepted for the first two events is 100. Cynthia Hodgson National Information Standards Organization Email: chodgson@niso.org Phone: 301-654-2512 From MMorris at daytonmetrolibrary.org Mon May 1 17:26:20 2006 From: MMorris at daytonmetrolibrary.org (Mimi Morris) Date: Mon May 1 17:26:23 2006 Subject: [Publib] private funding for public libraries Message-ID: <7898A79C279DB84281A9B3CEEDBA48F7016432D1@mail.DMCPL.local> Hello, Jessica, I don't think anyone objects to the possibility of private funds! However, I do have serious concerns about abdicating our advocacy for the public support of public libraries. There are few government institutions so egalitarian, so community focused and so constituent based as a community or neighborhood library. Public libraries support schools, support business development, support a literate and informed society. Government funding gives us the best chance of providing service to ALL of our citizens, regardless of demographic or economic differences. Once we embrace a private funding model, we are only one more "charity", fighting for the limited funds of a population who will pour funds into the disaster of the moment without real thought of maintaining stability for local needs. Once we are a charity, our affluent communities will probably have great libraries, while lesser-endowed communities will be second class citizens in an information-dependent world. Library cooperation will decline, because poorer communities will not be able to pull their weight in a consortium environment. That said, I do think we have to take every opportunity to enhance our public funding with funding from grants, gifts and partnerships. Our Director has said that outside funding can provide the "sizzle" of extras not available through our state and local budgets. I think he's right. Outside funding from LSTA and private foundations paid for 2/3 of our new children's bookmobile, and I am profoundly grateful. It is a magnificent tool that is reaching at-risk preschoolers in new ways. Our public funding pays for the staff, collection and maintenance-and we cannot expect ongoing gifts for those expenses. We can hope that our visible success with the bookmobile can lead to funding for more special projects, enhanced collections, and exciting programs that complement all the other services we provide. These opinions are totally my own, and not those of my library... Mimi Morris Assistant Director for Branch and Extension Services Dayton Metro Library 215 E. Third Street Dayton, Ohio 45402 937-227-9536 mmorris@daytonmetrolibrary.org ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of jess macleod Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:36 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] private funding for public libraries I have been doing some research regarding the funding situation for public libraries. The government tax dollars are decreasing, leaving the public library with little to no option. I read that Ferguson Library in CT leases space to Starbucks for $45,000/yr. Is anyone looking at alternative funding sources, or does anyone have any objections to the possibility of private funds? Jessica MacLeod Secretary to the LBOT Floral Park Public Library Floral Park, NY ________________________________ Blab-away for as little as 1?/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060501/851b5710/attachment.htm From libraryanna at msn.com Mon May 1 18:06:10 2006 From: libraryanna at msn.com (Judy A) Date: Mon May 1 18:06:17 2006 Subject: [Publib] private funding for public libraries In-Reply-To: <20060501203549.60032.qmail@web37810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My big concern would be the private company/corporation dictating what materials the library can have. For example, if a library had a book that was anti-Starbucks, would they ask that it be removed? They could use the threat of pulling out if the library doesn't comply. Then you instantly lose that money. There's also the sense of the public that the library is supporting that organization by letting it have the contract. Was the Starbucks put out to bid? And some folks would be concerned about a corporation being involved rather than a local business having the contract. I'm just suggesting objections a community might have to such an arrangement. Judy Anderson Oregon The perfect gift for the librarian or library student on your list! Visible and Vocal Librarian http://www.cafepress.com/vavlibrarian >From: jess macleod > > >I have been doing some research regarding the funding situation for public >libraries. The government tax dollars are decreasing, leaving the public >library with little to no option. I read that Ferguson Library in CT leases >space to Starbucks for $45,000/yr. Is anyone looking at alternative funding >sources, or does anyone have any objections to the possibility of private >funds? > > Jessica MacLeod > Secretary to the LBOT > Floral Park Public Library > Floral Park, NY > > _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org Mon May 1 20:29:29 2006 From: MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org (Mary J. Soucie) Date: Mon May 1 20:30:33 2006 Subject: [Publib] Free Xerox Copier offer Message-ID: <35A3685E8502B5428734A99EDA6E5E5120D351@server.wilmingtonlibrary.org> Hi all, Please excuse any cross-posting. I received an email from Xerox about a program to receive a free color copier. It looks like you have to pay a monthly service fee but don't pay for the copier and after certain period (I think it was 3 years) you own the copier outright. Has anyone seen or participated in this offer? What has your experience been? TIA for any info you can share, Mary Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060501/acbaf17d/attachment.htm From MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org Mon May 1 20:31:33 2006 From: MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org (Mary J. Soucie) Date: Mon May 1 20:32:30 2006 Subject: [Publib] Leasing plans Message-ID: <35A3685E8502B5428734A99EDA6E5E5120D352@server.wilmingtonlibrary.org> Hi all, Excuse any cross-posting please. We are considering a leasing program from McNaughton to supplement our best sellers collection. I'm looking for feedback from anyone who is leasing books, from McNaughton or another vendor. Are you happy with the program? Does it work well to supplement best sellers in this way? Any feedback or thoughts will be appreciated. Thank you, Mary Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060501/0113a114/attachment.htm From diedrec at charter.net Mon May 1 21:22:32 2006 From: diedrec at charter.net (Diedre Conkling) Date: Mon May 1 21:22:36 2006 Subject: [Publib] Free Xerox Copier offer Message-ID: <11120213.1146532952962.JavaMail.root@fepweb04> I know absolutely nothing about this program but I am commenting anyway. ;-) One of the reasons we lease our copier is so that we don't ever have to own it. When the lease is up we get a new lease on a new copier with even better bells and whistles. This means we always have a good copier. So, even if it really is semi-free you probably need to decide if owning a copier is best for your situation or not as one aspect in considering the offer. -- Diedre Conkling Lincoln County Library District P.O. Box 2027, Newport, OR 97365 Phone & Fax: 541-265-3066 http://lcld.library-blogs.net/ Work: diedre@beachbooks.org Home: diedrec@charter.net ---- "Mary J. Soucie" wrote: ============= Hi all, Please excuse any cross-posting. I received an email from Xerox about a program to receive a free color copier. It looks like you have to pay a monthly service fee but don't pay for the copier and after certain period (I think it was 3 years) you own the copier outright. Has anyone seen or participated in this offer? What has your experience been? TIA for any info you can share, Mary Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org From overduebks at yahoo.com Tue May 2 07:08:48 2006 From: overduebks at yahoo.com (jess macleod) Date: Tue May 2 07:08:52 2006 Subject: [Publib] Information Literacy Message-ID: <20060502110848.42600.qmail@web37807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I believe that information literacy standards are expected in the academic libraries, but I have witnessed little action in the public libraries. Basic retrieval seems to be customary, with no complaints from both patron and librarian. My question...Should the public library step it up in this age of information explosion? Perhaps public libraries do practice bibliographic instruction and follow information literacy standards, but I have not seen it. Does anyone offer open session classes in basic library research skills? Are public librarians against bibliographic instruction? Please pardon my naivete, and cure my curiosity.Thanks. Jessica MacLeod Floral Park Public Library --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger?s low PC-to-Phone call rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060502/6b61a4bf/attachment.htm From smithaa at oplin.org Tue May 2 08:09:05 2006 From: smithaa at oplin.org (smithaa@oplin.org) Date: Tue May 2 08:09:10 2006 Subject: [Publib] Information Literacy In-Reply-To: <20060502110848.42600.qmail@web37807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060502110848.42600.qmail@web37807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <18811.192.168.10.1.1146571745.squirrel@mail.oplin.org> Jessica, et al. - Having worked in academic and public contexts, my sense is that bibliographic instruction is fundamental to both. The idea of developing an information literacy standard, however, varies substantively. Bibliographic instruction in a public library is frequently one-on-one; the breadth of the public library service community and user base is such that baseline skills vary greatly. For libraries and library systems that serve radically different socioeconomic groups, it is very difficult to instruct users with such disparate educational backgrounds. In the academic context, the standard expectations that go with preliminary academic accomplishments (high school diploma, associates, B.A., etc.) offer a much more level baseline of user capabilities. In this context, more formal bibliographic instruction may be offered, and is indeed more commonplace, even expected. Because of the diversity in most public library contexts, I do think the idea of group bibliographic instruction is often overlooked as a possibility. Workloads and personality styles also preclude some reference staff from offering instruction one-on-one. This is a loss for library users, and also for the library itself, for whom automated information retrieval threatens the potential for community relationships. So, instruction still happens; but standards are much harder to define, for both users and staff. Regards, Aaron Smith Cataloging/Reference Services Clermont County Public Library, Ohio smithaa@oplin.org > I believe that information literacy standards are expected in the academic > libraries, but I have witnessed little action in the public libraries. > Basic retrieval seems to be customary, with no complaints from both patron > and librarian. My question...Should the public library step it up in this > age of information explosion? > Perhaps public libraries do practice bibliographic instruction and > follow information literacy standards, but I have not seen it. Does > anyone offer open session classes in basic library research skills? Are > public librarians against bibliographic instruction? Please pardon my > naivete, and cure my curiosity.Thanks. > > Jessica MacLeod > Floral Park Public Library From lchlebanowski at avondale.org Tue May 2 09:45:45 2006 From: lchlebanowski at avondale.org (Lise Chlebanowski) Date: Tue May 2 09:49:09 2006 Subject: [Publib] Free Xerox Copier offer Message-ID: I agree that owning an outdated worn out copier after 3 years, doesn't sound like much of a deal, plus an service contract would be expensive on that old a machine. We are trying to find someone who will put a vending copier in our library, like grocery stores have. We have found one vendor, but they don't currently have any units available. Comments concerning experiences with these vending copiers would be appreciated. Lise Chlebanowski Avondale Public Library Avondale, AZ ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of Diedre Conkling Sent: Mon 5/1/2006 6:22 PM To: PUBLIB Subject: Re: [Publib] Free Xerox Copier offer I know absolutely nothing about this program but I am commenting anyway. ;-) One of the reasons we lease our copier is so that we don't ever have to own it. When the lease is up we get a new lease on a new copier with even better bells and whistles. This means we always have a good copier. So, even if it really is semi-free you probably need to decide if owning a copier is best for your situation or not as one aspect in considering the offer. -- Diedre Conkling Lincoln County Library District P.O. Box 2027, Newport, OR 97365 Phone & Fax: 541-265-3066 http://lcld.library-blogs.net/ Work: diedre@beachbooks.org Home: diedrec@charter.net ---- "Mary J. Soucie" wrote: ============= Hi all, Please excuse any cross-posting. I received an email from Xerox about a program to receive a free color copier. It looks like you have to pay a monthly service fee but don't pay for the copier and after certain period (I think it was 3 years) you own the copier outright. Has anyone seen or participated in this offer? What has your experience been? TIA for any info you can share, Mary Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From kbr at ci.upland.ca.us Tue May 2 11:22:24 2006 From: kbr at ci.upland.ca.us (Kathryn Bloomberg - Rissman) Date: Tue May 2 11:22:32 2006 Subject: [Publib] Information Literacy Message-ID: <753755F36E410D4D80F678BF174558C8D3A335@uplmail.ci.upland.ca.us> I've found that in the public library setting, many people are not interested in learning how to find books, etc. They come to the library to get books and/or information. When my father's library automated, he stopped going until I convinced him that all he had to do was ask at the reference desk and someone would assist him. He had no desire to learn to use a computer. Here we have lots of patrons interested and willing to learn, but I don't think many or even any would be interested in taking a class. Whenever I'm searching for a patron and they are standing in front of me, I do a running commentary on what I'm doing and turn the monitor so they can follow along. If the patron seems interested I'll also go to the OPAC with them and let them search while I "assist". Now you have me wondering about BI classes. My reaction is they wouldn't work, but I'll be interested in seeing any responses indicating otherwise. Kathy Bloomberg-Rissman Director Upland Public Library Upland, CA ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of jess macleod Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:09 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Information Literacy I believe that information literacy standards are expected in the academic libraries, but I have witnessed little action in the public libraries. Basic retrieval seems to be customary, with no complaints from both patron and librarian. My question...Should the public library step it up in this age of information explosion? Perhaps public libraries do practice bibliographic instruction and follow information literacy standards, but I have not seen it. Does anyone offer open session classes in basic library research skills? Are public librarians against bibliographic instruction? Please pardon my naivete, and cure my curiosity.Thanks. Jessica MacLeod Floral Park Public Library ________________________________ How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060502/65a479ff/attachment.htm From Brenda.Crispin at ci.oxnard.ca.us Tue May 2 11:30:10 2006 From: Brenda.Crispin at ci.oxnard.ca.us (Brenda Crispin) Date: Tue May 2 11:27:27 2006 Subject: [Publib] Information Literacy Message-ID: I don't know what the standard or norm is but only know what we do here. We have very little bibliographic instruction and I see the following issues behind our let-the-tail-wag-the-dog approach. Time and available staff are very limited. Library literacy is no longer taught in the public schools here in California so the younger generation of library users need the most basic help. The information explosion has overwhelmed many people and patrons want and expect instant gratification...."just put the information in my hands, please." We do have computer classes that teach the most basic & some intermediate, computer skills but when a person comes to the library needing to make a resume or write a report they need help right then, not the next time the class is being offered in the afternoon while they are at work. We have formed the habit of providing whatever level of help a patron needs at the time. Unless it becomes too staff & time intensive, a line has formed at the reference desk, or we simply are unable to go the extra mile. Then we begin to suggest other avenues. Our branch librarian periodically forms what he calls a Junior Information Specialist program. He recruits students, mostly at the junior high level, to learn how to do basic research and use the library. The program has been quite successfull and reaches a few young people each time he offers the program. But such a program takes time and effort and takes the librarian away from the reference desk so it comes with a price tag. I don't think librarians are against bibliographic instruction. I think it's that they don't have the necessary time, and many patrons simply are not interested or feel too overwhelmed, or strapped for time themselves. I believe that as information continues to explode librarians, not libraries, are seen more and more as the vehicle by which information may be obtained.....if it can't be found easily on the Internet! I hope some of this makes sense. And I'm anxious to read other member's ideas on the topic. Brenda Crispin Local History Librarian Oxnard Public Library 251 South A Street Oxnard, CA 93030 805-385-7531 Brenda.Crispin@ci.oxnard.ca.us >>> jess macleod 05/02/06 4:08 AM >>> I believe that information literacy standards are expected in the academic libraries, but I have witnessed little action in the public libraries. Basic retrieval seems to be customary, with no complaints from both patron and librarian. My question...Should the public library step it up in this age of information explosion? Perhaps public libraries do practice bibliographic instruction and follow information literacy standards, but I have not seen it. Does anyone offer open session classes in basic library research skills? Are public librarians against bibliographic instruction? Please pardon my naivete, and cure my curiosity.Thanks. Jessica MacLeod Floral Park Public Library --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. From MMorris at daytonmetrolibrary.org Tue May 2 11:41:23 2006 From: MMorris at daytonmetrolibrary.org (Mimi Morris) Date: Tue May 2 11:41:28 2006 Subject: [Publib] Information Literacy Message-ID: <7898A79C279DB84281A9B3CEEDBA48F701643482@mail.DMCPL.local> I think that the differences in how academic and public libraries approach information literacy is tied to the differences in our missions. It is part of the academic library's mission to teach university level students to do research. In a public library, the typical mission is to "meet the informational, cultural and recreational learning needs of our community". Within that mission, we do as much or as little BI as our patrons need and want. Some people are fascinated by the process and want to learn how to do it themselves. For those patrons, my library offers one-on-one appointments for training in using our search capabilities, classes in basic searching and "advanced" classes in areas like genealogy and grants information research. We also have brochures and handouts promoting print and online resources in specific areas like business, medicine, or whatever. Many patrons, however, have a specific information need at the time and what they want from us is that information. We should be the information interpreter, or as I tell staff in our orientation, the information concierge. That's why we have professional training, and that's why we are here. It is not a failing of the public library to "teach" bibliographic instruction, it is the librarian's professional training to determine each patron's level of need and respond to it. As always, our mission guides our actions! All opinions are my own... Mimi Morris Assistant Director for Branch and Extension Services Dayton Metro Library 215 E. Third Street Dayton, Ohio 45402 937-227-9536 mmorris@daytonmetrolibrary.org From nbhilyard at zblibrary.org Tue May 2 11:41:24 2006 From: nbhilyard at zblibrary.org (Nann Blaine Hilyard) Date: Tue May 2 11:41:28 2006 Subject: [Publib] Information Literacy Message-ID: <9191C938D9F9504388C55F1225A34F79120835@ZBPLSRV04.zblibrary.local> Public libraries start information literacy with toddlers! Storytimes include bibliographic instruction. School classes come for class tours in conjunction with assignments, so they get bibliographic instruction. We host GED classes here that include b.i. (presented by library staff). I agree with Kathy. I think that many adults are hesitant/embarrassed to admit that they don't know as much as they think they should about the way that libraries are arranged. They think it's something they ought to remember from their school days. They have limited time so they want to get the information and go. One way to gently teach some information literacy to out-of-school adults is to present programs for community groups. Not only service clubs but also church circles, parents' groups, etc. You could invite them to hold one of their meetings at the library. If you go to where they meet your instruction may be limited to what you can demonstrate online (this means they'll need to meet where you can set up a computer) -- but you could also bring a book and explain what/where the call number is, what the barcode is, show the CIP and explain the elements of a bibliographic record. (People often don't know what you mean by "the number on the spine of the book," or they read the ISBN when you ask for the barcode.) I created a flyer titled "Deciphering the Dewey Decimal Classification" that summarizes the Dewey hundreds: "000, Generalities -- what you'll find: encyclopedias, journalism, magazines, computer software" I no longer have the Word document on file, but you all know how DDC works! Nann @the library in Zion, Illinois ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bloomberg - Rissman Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 9:22 AM To: jess macleod; publib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Publib] Information Literacy I've found that in the public library setting, many people are not interested in learning how to find books, etc. They come to the library to get books and/or information. When my father's library automated, he stopped going until I convinced him that all he had to do was ask at the reference desk and someone would assist him. He had no desire to learn to use a computer. Here we have lots of patrons interested and willing to learn, but I don't think many or even any would be interested in taking a class. Whenever I'm searching for a patron and they are standing in front of me, I do a running commentary on what I'm doing and turn the monitor so they can follow along. If the patron seems interested I'll also go to the OPAC with them and let them search while I "assist". Now you have me wondering about BI classes. My reaction is they wouldn't work, but I'll be interested in seeing any responses indicating otherwise. Kathy Bloomberg-Rissman Director Upland Public Library Upland, CA ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of jess macleod Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:09 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Information Literacy I believe that information literacy standards are expected in the academic libraries, but I have witnessed little action in the public libraries. Basic retrieval seems to be customary, with no complaints from both patron and librarian. My question...Should the public library step it up in this age of information explosion? Perhaps public libraries do practice bibliographic instruction and follow information literacy standards, but I have not seen it. Does anyone offer open session classes in basic library research skills? Are public librarians against bibliographic instruction? Please pardon my naivete, and cure my curiosity.Thanks. Jessica MacLeod Floral Park Public Library ________________________________ How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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At the web site you can also find out how to submit articles, volunteer to be a Referee, and about other LAMS initiatives. Articles in the issue include: "Tenure and Recruitment: A Survey of Library Human Resources Officers", by Stewart Brower, Christopher V. Hollister, Cynthia Tysick, and Thomas Pirrung. "Transition Mentoring: Transmission of a Professional Culture" by Beatrice Baaden and Jean O'Neill Uhl. "Navigating Campus Politics: The Key to Embedding Information Literacy Across-the-Curriculum", by Gail M. Staines, Ph.D. "Is Open Access the Answer? The High Price of Scientific, Technical and Medical Journal Subscriptions", By Henrietta Thornton-Verma. Review of Recent Literature If you have any thoughts you'd like to share about the journal, please send them to me. Richard Naylor JLAMS Editor naylorr@uhls.lib.ny.us Richard J. Naylor, MLS, MBA Assistant Director Wm. K. Sanford Town Library 518.458.9274 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060502/e67cd2e6/attachment.htm From ryerman at tln.lib.mi.us Tue May 2 11:52:27 2006 From: ryerman at tln.lib.mi.us (Roslyn Yerman) Date: Tue May 2 11:52:43 2006 Subject: [Publib] Administrative Librarians (was Why Librarianship) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4457803B.4070608@tln.lib.mi.us> I always knew that librarianship was going to be my career choice as well, after getting my BA in English, but it is this new direction that has me posting a reply. After working as Head Reference Librarian at my current library for for over eight years, my predecessor asked if I had ever considered working as a director, as he prepared to move to another position in the City. That was 1995. It's hard to believe it has been over ten years, and it occurs to me that even if I /had /planned to work in administration all along, many of my current job responsibilities would not have been covered in library school. :-D Roslyn Yerman Director Madison Heights Public Library 240 W. 13 Mile Road Madison Heights, MI 48071 tel: (248) 837-2852 fax: (248) 588-2470 Lise Chlebanowski wrote: > I didn't want to be a director/library manager either and I hear that > so much from other colleagues. I wonder what the ratio is of those who > really had administrative goals all along and those of us who fell > into it by accident! > > > > Lis? Chlebanowski > > Library Manager > > Avondale Public Library > > 328 W. Western Ave. > > Avondale, AZ 85323 > > 623-478-3105 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* publib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] *On Behalf Of *Mary J. Soucie > *Sent:* Monday, May 01, 2006 10:52 AM > *To:* publib@webjunction.org > *Subject:* RE: [Publib] Why Librarianship > > > > Nice thread. I always wanted to be a teacher and then a librarian. > When other kids were playing school, I was playing school and library. > J I never wanted to be a director but here I am and here I'll stay- at > least for now. Mary > > > > Mary J. Soucie, MLIS > > Library Director > Wilmington Public Library District > Visit the world @ your library^(TM) > 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 > 815-476-2834 Phone > 815-476-7805 Fax > mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* publib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] *On Behalf Of *Leah Habersham > *Sent:* Saturday, April 29, 2006 12:30 AM > *To:* publib@webjunction.org > *Subject:* [Publib] Why Librarianship > > > > Just out of curiosity... what inspired you to become a librarian? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > > PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Publib mailing list >Publib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060502/5836a669/attachment.htm From gresd at ohoopeelibrary.org Tue May 2 11:53:56 2006 From: gresd at ohoopeelibrary.org (Dusty Gres) Date: Tue May 2 11:53:54 2006 Subject: [Publib] Information Literacy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001c01c66e00$9e531c20$140ba8c0@Director> I am all in favor of bibliographic instruction. I am particularly in favor of bibliographic instruction when I have 150 fifth graders in here doing reports and the teacher hasn't even taken the time to check the spelling of the person's name on her printed assignment sheet much less given any assistance or training to the students in how to do research other than sitting at a computer and copying something from the Internet. I am particularly in favor of bibliographic instruction when the college student comes in and tells me she has to do a report and, "like, what's a bibliography anyway," because her professor told her to just ask the librarian and the college library is closed for spring break. I do classes in bibliographic instruction once a year, mainly for the home school group, but open to any interested -- aimed at parent and child as a partner. I do, like all the other folks who have written in, one-on-one, as folks ask because people don't walk in here for a class, they walk in here looking for what they want, now. I can talk them through my process, if they are interested, but usually they just want me to find the book, thank you, and get on with it. Specialized classes, genealogy for instance, are given when there is an available staff person and the opportunity. When you are short-staffed and budget-strapped -- as public libraries are today -- it is difficult to spend extra time and resources. But, we do what we can. Dusty Gres, Director Ohoopee Regional Library System Hdq: Vidalia-Toombs County Library 610 Jackson Street Vidalia, GA 30474 PH: (912) 537-9283 FAX: (912) 537-3735 EMAIL: gresd@ohoopeelibrary.org WEB: http://www.ohoopeelibrary.org -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Brenda Crispin Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:30 AM To: publib@webjunction.org; overduebks@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Publib] Information Literacy I don't know what the standard or norm is but only know what we do here. We have very little bibliographic instruction and I see the following issues behind our let-the-tail-wag-the-dog approach. Time and available staff are very limited. Library literacy is no longer taught in the public schools here in California so the younger generation of library users need the most basic help. The information explosion has overwhelmed many people and patrons want and expect instant gratification...."just put the information in my hands, please." We do have computer classes that teach the most basic & some intermediate, computer skills but when a person comes to the library needing to make a resume or write a report they need help right then, not the next time the class is being offered in the afternoon while they are at work. We have formed the habit of providing whatever level of help a patron needs at the time. Unless it becomes too staff & time intensive, a line has formed at the reference desk, or we simply are unable to go the extra mile. Then we begin to suggest other avenues. Our branch librarian periodically forms what he calls a Junior Information Specialist program. He recruits students, mostly at the junior high level, to learn how to do basic research and use the library. The program has been quite successfull and reaches a few young people each time he offers the program. But such a program takes time and effort and takes the librarian away from the reference desk so it comes with a price tag. I don't think librarians are against bibliographic instruction. I think it's that they don't have the necessary time, and many patrons simply are not interested or feel too overwhelmed, or strapped for time themselves. I believe that as information continues to explode librarians, not libraries, are seen more and more as the vehicle by which information may be obtained.....if it can't be found easily on the Internet! I hope some of this makes sense. And I'm anxious to read other member's ideas on the topic. Brenda Crispin Local History Librarian Oxnard Public Library 251 South A Street Oxnard, CA 93030 805-385-7531 Brenda.Crispin@ci.oxnard.ca.us >>> jess macleod 05/02/06 4:08 AM >>> I believe that information literacy standards are expected in the academic libraries, but I have witnessed little action in the public libraries. Basic retrieval seems to be customary, with no complaints from both patron and librarian. My question...Should the public library step it up in this age of information explosion? Perhaps public libraries do practice bibliographic instruction and follow information literacy standards, but I have not seen it. Does anyone offer open session classes in basic library research skills? Are public librarians against bibliographic instruction? Please pardon my naivete, and cure my curiosity.Thanks. Jessica MacLeod Floral Park Public Library --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From dgreenwald at danburylibrary.org Tue May 2 12:55:04 2006 From: dgreenwald at danburylibrary.org (Greenwald, Diane) Date: Tue May 2 13:33:05 2006 Subject: [Publib] Danbury Library Director Position Message-ID: The position of Library Director for the Danbury Public Library is now posted on the City's website at http://www.ci.danbury.ct.us/content/41/203/510/5312.aspx Please check out our website at http://danburylibrary.org for more information or contact me at dgreenwald@danburylibrary.org. Diane Greenwald Assistant Director Danbury Public Library 170 Main St. Danbury CT 06810 203-797-4505 http://danburylibrary.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cecilia Barham Director, Decatur Public Library 1700 Hwy. 51 South Decatur, TX 76234 940.627.6824 From suekamm at mindspring.com Tue May 2 12:24:33 2006 From: suekamm at mindspring.com (Sue Kamm) Date: Tue May 2 13:33:07 2006 Subject: [Publib] Leasing plans Message-ID: <25180656.1146587073708.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060502/888b3fef/attachment.htm From lshaw at ci.aurora.co.us Tue May 2 12:41:48 2006 From: lshaw at ci.aurora.co.us (Linda Shaw) Date: Tue May 2 13:33:08 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Why Librarianship Message-ID: <4457376C0200005400003448@gwmail4.ci.aurora.co.us> I was recently going through books I owned as a child, as I now have a child of my own who'll be inheriting them. Inside the front covers in very childish handwriting: "Property of the Library of Linda Shaw. $1.00 if lost. .50 if damaged." As I recall I had a little card system and loved loaning my rather extensive library of books out to my friends. I guess I'm hard-wired for this line of work! Linda Shaw Central Library Coordinator Aurora Public Library 14949 East Alameda Parkway Aurora, CO 80012 (303) 739-6625 (P) (303) 739-6579 (F) www.auroralibrary.org From weissman at main.morris.org Tue May 2 12:54:08 2006 From: weissman at main.morris.org (Sara Weissman) Date: Tue May 2 13:33:08 2006 Subject: [Publib] Exhibit policies? Message-ID: <37063.192.168.54.254.1146588848.squirrel@192.168.54.254> We're redrafting our exhibit space policies .. if anyone has samples, from your place? would appreciate seeing them. Thanks. -- Reference Dept Morris County Library http://www.mclib.info From ingrams at ecgrl.org Tue May 2 13:37:11 2006 From: ingrams at ecgrl.org (Saralyn Ingram) Date: Tue May 2 13:33:53 2006 Subject: [Publib] RE: Alll Staff Training Day Message-ID: <20060502173335.4F1A36043C1@libmail.georgialibraries.org> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From Brenda.Crispin at ci.oxnard.ca.us Tue May 2 14:01:51 2006 From: Brenda.Crispin at ci.oxnard.ca.us (Brenda Crispin) Date: Tue May 2 13:58:58 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Why Librarianship Message-ID: I did the same thing. I had a collection of Nancy Drew books and a few other novels. I glued pockets into the back, inside covers and placed a check-out card. Then I tried to get the neighbor children to check them out. My sister was the only one who actually took advantage of my little library. And still I did not think of being a librarian until I was in my early 40s and facing a major life-change (divorce and almost-grown children and an opportunity to go out on my own and seek a career). It took me two years to realize that the career for me was librarianship and that happened only because I walked into my local public library as I did on a regular basis but that one time stopped dead in my tracks in the lobby as I thought, "Why did I never think of being a libraian?" It seemed so natural and has proven to be a perfect match for my interests and personality. And I give much credit to my mother who read to me as an infant and always had books in the house, and the wonderful City Librarian in my small home-town who knew me by name. Brenda Crispin Local History Librarian Oxnard Public Library 251 South A Street Oxnard, CA 93030 805-385-7531 Brenda.Crispin@ci.oxnard.ca.us >>> "Linda Shaw" 05/02/06 9:41 AM >>> I was recently going through books I owned as a child, as I now have a child of my own who'll be inheriting them. Inside the front covers in very childish handwriting: "Property of the Library of Linda Shaw. $1.00 if lost. .50 if damaged." As I recall I had a little card system and loved loaning my rather extensive library of books out to my friends. I guess I'm hard-wired for this line of work! Linda Shaw Central Library Coordinator Aurora Public Library 14949 East Alameda Parkway Aurora, CO 80012 (303) 739-6625 (P) (303) 739-6579 (F) www.auroralibrary.org _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From adam.davis at delraylibrary.org Tue May 2 14:05:51 2006 From: adam.davis at delraylibrary.org (Adam Davis) Date: Tue May 2 14:05:56 2006 Subject: [Publib] Online job searching tutorial Message-ID: <8CCC182E71B59A47AF5114A25FD9BE68024CD9@svr2exchange.DelrayLibrary.local> Does anybody have experience doing online job searching tutorials for high school students? If you have any tips, lesson plans or ideas, please forward. This class is going to be given to Latino students, some of whom don't speak very much English, so if you have materials in Spanish, that would be helpful, too (I'll be presenting this in both English and Spanish). I appreciate any and all help! 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By the time I entered my senior year of college I was approaching the What next? stage. A history degree and $1.50 would get you on the subway. So, in casting about for ideas, I remembered my local library. Binghamton University (SUNY-Binghamton back then) offered off-campus internships with local businesses, but no one had ever done an internship at the library. I proposed the idea, it got accepted by the college and Binghamton Public Library, and I was introduced to the joys of a working public library, from selection meetings, to cataloging, to stints at the reference desk. I will always be grateful to my mentors, Dean Corner of Binghamton Public Library, and John Briggs of SUNY-Binghamton Libraries for starting me on the road. Joanne (Cronin) Herb Morris County Library Whippany, NJ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060502/02580d20/attachment.htm From catalib at plattsburghlib.org Tue May 2 14:41:02 2006 From: catalib at plattsburghlib.org (Colleen Pelletier) Date: Tue May 2 14:41:12 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why librarianship? Message-ID: I agree, it is a nice thread! When I was in elementary school (small catholic rural), I had a few teachers who inspired my love of reading and using the school library. I also made cards and pockets for my books at home and "made" my brothers sign them out of "my library". I still have one of those books. When I went on to junior high and senior high, the same thing happened. However, it took me until I was tired of working as nurse's aide to realize I wanted to fulfill a dream by working in a library. I went on to get my MLS and started in a public library 15 years ago. I've been here ever since with all the frustrations, the joys of helping people and the satisfaction of answering a question no one else could. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060502/57385cb2/attachment.htm From diedrec at charter.net Tue May 2 14:58:44 2006 From: diedrec at charter.net (Diedre Conkling) Date: Tue May 2 14:58:48 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Why Librarianship? Message-ID: <1551021474.1146596324244.JavaMail.root@fepweb11> -- I am beginning to think I was a bit weird. It was never my life-long dream to be a librarian. Actually, I can't say that I had any real career goals, even after getting the required English degree and a teaching certificate. I do recall having to write about some job for a junior high school class. We were suppose to interview someone but that really was not something I could do at that point in my life. I did do a bit of research at the public library and found the "Occupational Outlook Handbook." I was in a library so I decided to look up how to be a librarian. Yes, I wrote the paper from that and pretended I had done an interview and got an "A" on the paper. I never thought about it again. Then came college and the need for a job. This lead to workstudy positions. I worked at the law library at the University of Alabama for a year and in the Acquisitions Department at Idaho State University for a year. Yes, I also took janitorial jobs for a few years. So, I just kind of fell into libraries. After graduating I was looking for secondary education positions and was hanging out at the Idaho Falls Public Library one day when the staff there told me that there was an opening. So I applied. For some reason I was hired. I soon realized the I could not do much more than I was doing, which included working at the circulation desk, doing some reference on the night that no librarians were working, running the a-v department ( a small room with super-8 films and projectors which I learned to repair), helping create stuff for the summer reading program (like making an R2D2) and some selection of adult fiction after taking one class in selection. I think I always knew that I was most interested in administration. I even took a library administration course at the Univ. of Illinois taught by Kathleen de la Pena McCook. I happened to write a paper for that class about developing a new library district. After working as a youth services librarian/department head, a branch manager and other odd jobs I have ended up the director of a library district (after getting courses in public administration) that I very much have had a hand in developing from the beginning of the district (whew, was that paper I wrote wrong). Anyway, I really like being a librarian and advocate for libraries but it was never a real career choice. It is just what happened. Sometimes you just have to go with the flow. I actually think I might have enjoyed being a car mechanic just as much but it wasn't the way things went. And that is my saga. Diedre Conkling Lincoln County Library District P.O. Box 2027, Newport, OR 97365 Phone & Fax: 541-265-3066 http://lcld.library-blogs.net/ Work: diedre@beachbooks.org Home: diedrec@charter.net From ag4646 at wayne.edu Tue May 2 15:40:50 2006 From: ag4646 at wayne.edu (Carlie Hoffman) Date: Tue May 2 15:40:53 2006 Subject: [Publib] Disaster/emergency plans Message-ID: <81c71f1b0605021240s79af0ec6odad0a2f29c66de58@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I work in a branch of an urban public library system, and we have been given the task to write a disaster/emergency plan for our branch for things such as fires, tornadoes, threatening patrons, etc. Does anyone have any tips or suggestions on what to include or have a plan they would be willing to share? Thanks in advance, Carlie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060502/b00f379e/attachment.htm From Lori at laurellibrary.org Tue May 2 15:56:16 2006 From: Lori at laurellibrary.org (Lori Acton) Date: Tue May 2 15:56:25 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship Message-ID: Of course I have always loved books, but I enjoy people and the dynamics of working with and for the public more! I enjoy the complexities of staff situations, board expectations and public demands. I believe the public library is one of the last great forums in this country where community convenes. There is nothing more valuable to a society than the freedom to meet, think, study and discuss, and we do it all in the library.More importantly we connect with each other....and want to do it again. There is something very SANE and gratifying about all of this! Lori Acton, Director Laurel County Public Library London, Kentucky 40741 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060502/45171188/attachment.htm From kbr at ci.upland.ca.us Tue May 2 15:58:22 2006 From: kbr at ci.upland.ca.us (Kathryn Bloomberg - Rissman) Date: Tue May 2 15:58:30 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Why Librarianship? Message-ID: <753755F36E410D4D80F678BF174558C8D3A408@uplmail.ci.upland.ca.us> Here's my story- in 1987 my husband went to library school, afterwards he got a position at the University of California, Riverside. We moved there with the proviso that I could work part time (2 elementary school aged children). I found a job at the high school library as a clerk, after all I knew about libraries I had just lived through 2 years of library school. After one year the job became full time and I figured out that the only thing holding me back from making sort of decent money was the MLS so off to library school I went, with plans of working at a university. But once out of school the only jobs in the area were in public libraries, so that's what I did. Public libraries were the perfect place for me. I loved it and never tried to move to a college or university. And then the old Peter Principle went into action and I kept being promoted until viola -- here I am a director. Kathy Bloomberg-Rissman Director Upland Public Library Upland, CA From suekamm at mindspring.com Tue May 2 16:04:34 2006 From: suekamm at mindspring.com (Sue Kamm) Date: Tue May 2 16:04:38 2006 Subject: [Publib] Disaster/emergency plans Message-ID: <9151274.1146600274935.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060502/95f49c40/attachment.htm From marie at spartalibrary.com Tue May 2 16:08:35 2006 From: marie at spartalibrary.com (Marie) Date: Tue May 2 16:13:29 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why librarianship? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was one of those children who created her own library w/ cards to sign out--and if no one signed them out, I signed them out to my stuffed animals--the most well-read teddy bear in town! In high school I was a page at my local library....where I did everything, including checking out books, repairing books & typing cards. A million years later (okay, close to 15), I was laid off from a job I wasn't happy in and tried a few different things, including a stint as an EMT, a puppetteer, and a camp counselor. I thought I would go back to school to be a teacher, but that wasn't for me. I saw a want ad for a children's librarian & realized that that would be the perfect job for me. Incidently, I didn't get it, but I did get a different job in a tiny library and started library school. I have since graduated (in January 2006) and moved on to several other jobs. I still think I would be great as a children's librarian, but I'm relatively happy here. Marie Mueller Reference/Teen librarian From lchlebanowski at avondale.org Tue May 2 16:43:38 2006 From: lchlebanowski at avondale.org (Lise Chlebanowski) Date: Tue May 2 16:43:42 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why librarianship? Message-ID: Doesn't this thread seem like a wake up call to be sure that, as librarians, we mentor children and young adults who frequent our libraries that our jobs might actually be careers for them?! I also loved libraries all my life, although I never set up my own library, because I simply didn't own that many books. We went to the library all the time and I loved being there, but it didn't occur to me to work there! After my children were all in school I got a job as a custom frame artist and it wasn't until that store closed that I stumbled on a part time job at the library in a paraprofessional capacity. I only applied for it because the hours fit what I wanted but again, I did not consider it to be a "career" until I worked with librarians who took the time to mentor me. Well, 12 years later, I obtained my MLS and here I am, but I wish I had known in my 20's what I know now! :-) Anyway, there seems to be a distinct disconnect between libraries and potential employment! Lis? Chlebanowski Library Manager Avondale Public Library 328 W. Western Ave. Avondale, AZ 85323 623-478-3105 -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Marie Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:09 PM To: Colleen Pelletier; publib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Publib] Why librarianship? I was one of those children who created her own library w/ cards to sign out--and if no one signed them out, I signed them out to my stuffed animals--the most well-read teddy bear in town! In high school I was a page at my local library....where I did everything, including checking out books, repairing books & typing cards. A million years later (okay, close to 15), I was laid off from a job I wasn't happy in and tried a few different things, including a stint as an EMT, a puppetteer, and a camp counselor. I thought I would go back to school to be a teacher, but that wasn't for me. I saw a want ad for a children's librarian & realized that that would be the perfect job for me. Incidently, I didn't get it, but I did get a different job in a tiny library and started library school. I have since graduated (in January 2006) and moved on to several other jobs. I still think I would be great as a children's librarian, but I'm relatively happy here. Marie Mueller Reference/Teen librarian _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From jneff at olatheks.org Tue May 2 16:57:50 2006 From: jneff at olatheks.org (Joshua Neff) Date: Tue May 2 16:58:12 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why librarianship? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001301c66e2b$1db86270$2a02a8c0@olathe.lib.ks.us> "Doesn't this thread seem like a wake up call to be sure that, as librarians, we mentor children and young adults who frequent our libraries that our jobs might actually be careers for them?!" Absolutely! All the time as I spent in libraries growing up, I never had a librarian give any evidence that they thought I should be one when I grew up, or show that being a librarian was fun and/or cool. In retrospect, that seems very sad. --Joshua M. Neff Indian Creek Branch Olathe Public Library From suekamm at mindspring.com Tue May 2 17:15:51 2006 From: suekamm at mindspring.com (Sue Kamm) Date: Tue May 2 17:15:53 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why librarianship? Message-ID: <25032362.1146604551166.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I didn't think about becoming a librarian until I roomed with a library school student the year after I graduated from Cal. I was attracted by the veritable plethora of jobs advertised in LIBRARY JOURNAL. I had to attend Cal State Northridge to bring up my grade point average and fulfill a UCLA Graduate Division language requirement. I worked in the CSUN library while I was going there - my first library job. The most satisfying part of my job is when I can pull information a client needs seemingly from nowhere. That's why I get paid the big bucks Your friendly CyberGoddess and Councilor-at-large, Sue Kamm Inglewood/Los Angeles, CA Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000 email: suekamm [at] mindspring.com When you absolutely, positively HAVE to know, ASK A LIBRARIAN! From mls_05_07 at msn.com Tue May 2 17:23:39 2006 From: mls_05_07 at msn.com (Danielle M. Walsh) Date: Tue May 2 17:23:38 2006 Subject: [Publib] (no subject) Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think any patron who was motivated enough could do it easily. However, 99% of our patrons are honest people and theft has not been a major problem. They will send you a sample if you ask. ________________________________ Julie McBride Reference Librarian Pawtucket Public Library 13 Summer Street Pawtucket, RI 02860 401-725-3714 ext. 220 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060502/4d278dea/attachment.htm From mbobkoff at cybermesa.com Tue May 2 21:24:27 2006 From: mbobkoff at cybermesa.com (Miriam Bobkoff) Date: Tue May 2 20:24:31 2006 Subject: [Publib] deadline extended: Technical Services position in Santa Fe, NM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060503002121.M73742@cybermesa.com> Re-posting as position close date extended to 05/12/06 at 5 pm. Librarian. The City of Santa Fe has an opening for a Librarian, assigned to Cataloging/Technical Services. Position catalogs materials in a variety of formats using MARC, AACR2, DDC22, LCSH, and Bibliographic Formats and Standards. Oversees authority control processing. Works with the Library Technical Services Director on outsourcing projects, re-class projects, retrospective conversion, and catalog database cleanup. Works at Reference Desk and/or assists with Interlibrary Loans for 10 hours per week. Experience with the Library?s Innovative Interfaces Inc. system and OCLC are desirable. Requirements: High School Diploma or equivalent plus five (5) years of experience in library functions and operations such as cataloging, reference, interlibrary loan, media services. One (1) year of experience in area of assignment. General knowledge of computers and the ability to type. Relevant education may be substituted for experience on a year for year basis. MLS preferred. For further information, please see the web site at http://www.santafenm.gov. Submit a completed City of Santa Fe application to the Human Resources Department, City of Santa Fe, 200 Lincoln, or mail to P.O. Box 909, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87504-0909. A copy of your HS/GED or college transcript must be attached to each application. Pre-placement physical exams are required. Position close date extended to 05/12/06 at 5 pm. Full official City of Santa Fe posting at http://snipurl.com/psrz Application form at http://www.santafenm.gov/human-resources/index.asp#application Miriam Bobkoff personal: mbobkoff@cybermesa.com Santa Fe Public Library work: mkbobkoff@ci.santa-fe.nm.us 145 Washington Avenue Santa Fe, NM 87501 The Library's Page: (505) 955-6832 http://www.santafelibrary.org Icarus... the SFPL Blog http://santafelibrary.blogspot.com From agometz at rhus.com Tue May 2 20:36:13 2006 From: agometz at rhus.com (Anne Gometz) Date: Tue May 2 20:36:01 2006 Subject: [Publib] re Information literacy Message-ID: <4457FAFD.9010900@rhus.com> Having changed from an academic to a public library some years back, it's embarrassing to admit how long it took me to realize that many of our patrons who "just can't do computers" or "don't have my glasses" were concealing the fact that they can't read well enough to deal with online tools. That's one problem an academic librarian doesn't ordinarily run into. So we demonstrate how to use the online catalog if a person shows interest, but we don't make an issue of it. It's more important to hand them what they need. (Or to talk them out of faxing their license and personal info to the person who called and told them they won the Spanish lottery. We seem to spend a lot of time on this one.) Anne Gometz Gastonia NC "Mine and mine alone." From lnuner at yahoo.com Tue May 2 22:25:26 2006 From: lnuner at yahoo.com (Linda Nuner Taggart) Date: Tue May 2 22:25:27 2006 Subject: [Publib] Disaster/emergency plans Message-ID: <20060503022526.20329.qmail@web32514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}..shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } There’s a free disaster planningtool developed by the Northeast Document Conservation Center athttp://dplan.zaks.com. It asks lots of questions to get you thinking about yourspecific situation, you put in your data, and it then spits out a disaster planfor you. They have a demo that might be worth a look. Linda Taggart --------------------------------- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org[mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] OnBehalf Of Carlie Hoffman Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:41PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib]Disaster/emergency plans Hi, I work in a branch of an urban public library system, and we havebeen given the task to write a disaster/emergency plan for our branch forthings such as fires, tornadoes, threatening patrons, etc. Does anyone have anytips or suggestions on what to include or have a plan they would be willing toshare? Thanks in advance, Carlie --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060502/6734a42e/attachment.htm From Dianeh at cape-may.county.lib.nj.us Wed May 3 08:28:47 2006 From: Dianeh at cape-may.county.lib.nj.us (Diane Hamilton) Date: Wed May 3 08:25:40 2006 Subject: [Publib] Free training by area businesses Message-ID: <31E28B9C2DC7494DB6FAA05A16EC68AD84311D@cmcl-exch.ad.cape-may.county.lib.nj.us> At Computers in Library someone talked about having area businesses come into the library and do training. One example was Best Buy doing training on mp3 players and other "gadgets." I thought I read somewhere (not sure if it was here) about Home Depot going into a library and offering different programs. We don't have a Best Buy in our county - although there is one in a neighboring county - so I was curious if other libraries did this. And if so, what companies have offered this type of thing. I promise to summarize and share the responses I get. Thanks for your help, Diane Hamilton Cape May County Library -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/abf026ca/attachment.htm From julie at 4bauers.us Wed May 3 09:47:36 2006 From: julie at 4bauers.us (Julie Bauer) Date: Wed May 3 09:47:39 2006 Subject: [Publib] Information Literacy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060503134736.44536.qmail@web32605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I see two different issues here -- bibliographic instruction and computer application instruction. Showing someone how to use the catalog, a database, or the index to Contemporary Authors = bibliographic instruction. Showing someone how to format their resume or send photos in an email attachment = computer application instruction. Do the patrons care about or even perceive this distinction? No, of course not. But it is important for libraries and librarians to make decisions about the resources they devote to the two kinds of learning. Julie Bauer Collection Development Librarian Loudoun County Public Library --- Brenda Crispin wrote: > I don't know what the standard or norm is but only > know what we do here. We have very little > bibliographic instruction and I see the following > issues behind our let-the-tail-wag-the-dog approach. > Time and available staff are very limited. Library > literacy is no longer taught in the public schools > here in California so the younger generation of > library users need the most basic help. The > information explosion has overwhelmed many people > and patrons want and expect instant > gratification...."just put the information in my > hands, please." > > We do have computer classes that teach the most > basic & some intermediate, computer skills but when > a person comes to the library needing to make a > resume or write a report they need help right then, > not the next time the class is being offered in the > afternoon while they are at work. We have formed > the habit of providing whatever level of help a > patron needs at the time. Unless it becomes too > staff & time intensive, a line has formed at the > reference desk, or we simply are unable to go the > extra mile. Then we begin to suggest other avenues. > > Our branch librarian periodically forms what he > calls a Junior Information Specialist program. He > recruits students, mostly at the junior high level, > to learn how to do basic research and use the > library. The program has been quite successfull and > reaches a few young people each time he offers the > program. But such a program takes time and effort > and takes the librarian away from the reference desk > so it comes with a price tag. > > I don't think librarians are against bibliographic > instruction. I think it's that they don't have the > necessary time, and many patrons simply are not > interested or feel too overwhelmed, or strapped for > time themselves. I believe that as information > continues to explode librarians, not libraries, are > seen more and more as the vehicle by which > information may be obtained.....if it can't be found > easily on the Internet! > > I hope some of this makes sense. And I'm anxious to > read other member's ideas on the topic. > > > > Brenda Crispin > Local History Librarian > Oxnard Public Library > 251 South A Street > Oxnard, CA 93030 > 805-385-7531 > Brenda.Crispin@ci.oxnard.ca.us > >>> jess macleod 05/02/06 > 4:08 AM >>> > I believe that information literacy standards are > expected in the academic libraries, but I have > witnessed little action in the public libraries. > Basic retrieval seems to be customary, with no > complaints from both patron and librarian. My > question...Should the public library step it up in > this age of information explosion? > Perhaps public libraries do practice bibliographic > instruction and follow information literacy > standards, but I have not seen it. Does anyone offer > open session classes in basic library research > skills? Are public librarians against bibliographic > instruction? Please pardon my naivete, and cure my > curiosity.Thanks. > > Jessica MacLeod > Floral Park Public Library > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > _______________________________________________ > Publib mailing list > Publib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > From bmichaels at ccls.org Wed May 3 10:17:24 2006 From: bmichaels at ccls.org (Beverly Michaels) Date: Wed May 3 10:18:19 2006 Subject: [Publib] self check machines Message-ID: <5DA0B469C9B3704AA2F4711689033B6E4E2695@temperance.ccls.org> If anyone on the list has experience (positive or negative) of self checkout units made by Firehawk Systems (the "ReadyCirc" automatic circulation machine) or Library Automation Technologies (the "FlashScan" machine) could you please contact me with this information? We are interested in purchasing a self check system and would like additional information on these two (we have also looked at a couple of others). We need a unit that is capable of accepting payment of fines and rental fees. Beverly Michaels Circulation Services Tredyffrin Public Library 610-688-7092, ext 201 This Chester County Library System e-mail message, including any attachments, is intended for the sole use of the individual(s) and entity(ies) to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended addressee, nor authorized to receive for the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, disclose or distribute to anyone this e-mail message including any attachments, or any information contained in this e-mail message including any attachments. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. Thank you very much. From jrichmond at alphapark.org Wed May 3 11:52:39 2006 From: jrichmond at alphapark.org (John) Date: Wed May 3 11:52:41 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why librarianship? ... a walk down Nostalgia Lane Message-ID: When I was a kid, I didn't really think about being a librarian. (Up to a certain point in childhood, I just wanted to be a train engineer. Does *that* ever date me!) However, my mother went to the Topeka Public Library--now, more splendiferously, the Topeka & Shawnee County Library--weekly, I went along, and we checked out books. There was a kind of aura of mystery about the library; one could not check stuff out from the adult areas until a certain age--although a parent could check something out for a child--so I looked forward to the day when I was old enough to check out books for Old People. When I was about ten I wanted to read The Hunchback of Notre Dame, which had to be brought up from the basement storage area on a kind of dumbwaiter, and that was mysterious, too. My first library card was green, looked like a credit card, with raised white letters. AND I distinctly recall that TPL used McBee cards in the circ system; I can still see them, with their poked holes along the side (?I think?), not unlike teletype ribbon. (Boy, am I ever waxing nostalgic....) There was a very forbidding woman who worked in the children's department; I can't remember her name, but she always seemed to have white hair and she didn't necessarily invite light conversation and other pleasantries. On the other hand, when my brother was four years old, broke his leg, and had to be in traction at Stormont-Vail Hospital, just across the street, for six weeks (1962--again, things were different), Mrs. Whatever-Her-Name-Was faithfully selected books for my mother to pick up to read to my brother in his imprisonment. The crusty librarian with a heart of gold.... And when I discovered opera at the age of 12 or 13, I was frustrated because the policy in the fine arts dept. was that only teachers, or mostly only teachers, were THE ones who could check out opera recordings and other boxed, multi-disk sets. A young man who worked fine arts discovered my interest and more-or-less clandestinely let me check out operas. He loaded me down with stuff he liked: Lohengrin, La Fanciulla del West (NOT Puccini's best), and perhaps something by Richard Strauss--way above where I was, but it didn't matter. He continued to allow me to check out the boxed sets of LPs, and I hope he didn't lose his job over it. At some point, he was no longer there, so perhaps he morphed into...a DIRECTOR somewhere. So, ultimately, librarianship just seemed perfectly natural. I was chagrined, I *must* say, when in high school I applied for a job at the Topeka Public Library, as a lowly page, and was NOT hired. But I forgave them all, those wicked people who did not see my potential. Just as an aside, the director of TPL when I was a child was Horace Moses--what a wonderful name--and he was an Episcopalian. He had two sons who became priests, and I knew one of them, in later life. "Father Moses" had a nice ring to it. John D. Richmond, Director Alpha Park Public Library District 3527 So. Airport Road Bartonville, IL 61607 Ph: 309-697-3822, x. 12 Fax: 309-697-9681 Email: jrichmond@alphapark.org _______________________________________________ When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy.? -- Ludwig van Beethoven From jrichmond at alphapark.org Wed May 3 12:01:45 2006 From: jrichmond at alphapark.org (John) Date: Wed May 3 12:10:07 2006 Subject: [Publib] On Being a Director Message-ID: "All I ever wanted to be was a reference librarian," is the line I've often used. And all I've ever been was/is a director. Sometimes when I say that, my female colleagues snort and say, "Well, of *course*, all the men get the good administrative jobs," etc. But I really did NOT start out to be a director. I interviewed at the Oak Park, IL, PL for a reference job--where the director had worked at the Topeka Public Library of my youth, mentioned in a "Why librarianship?" post I just sent--and didn't get it. Then the head librarian's job at the Winfield, KS, PL was advertised. It was in KANSAS, my home state, and only about 25 miles from Wellington, the town where my dad had grown up and where my paternal grandparents still lived. So there was some familiarity there, and--being the somewhat anxious type--I wanted a JOB, and feared that I would never get one and would be forever homeless, penniless, hungry and begging on the street...and after interviewing, Winfield offered me the job. So I took it. I did get to do reference work, because it was a small library. Also circ, typing catalogue cards, and a host of other things. In the process, I discovered my desire to control the world, have "my" library, and after that I was a director. I never thought about oppressing some poor woman who might want my job. I'm still not paid nearly as well as, say, my pharmacist brothers-in-law, or my incredibly well-off lawyer brother, so I may be male--no, I *am* male, no confusion there, although I am confused about many things, most of them technological--but compared to the men I know who've made it big in the private sector, I'm not rich. And that's how I got to be a director. Along the lines of other people who've posted and suggested that they got to be directors through some kind of unintentional (?) process. John D. Richmond, Director Alpha Park Public Library District 3527 So. Airport Road Bartonville, IL 61607 Ph: 309-697-3822, x. 12 Fax: 309-697-9681 Email: jrichmond@alphapark.org _______________________________________________ When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy.? -- Ludwig van Beethoven From DKeeber at sedonalibrary.org Wed May 3 12:22:14 2006 From: DKeeber at sedonalibrary.org (David Keeber) Date: Wed May 3 13:24:02 2006 Subject: [Publib] Bird Flu Planning Message-ID: <9D3FAE71B9E49F43AF57D30F88E520BC33F1A5@hera.sedonalibrary.local> Is anyone aware of planning efforts underway for the role libraries would play, and the ways in which they would manage internally, in the event of a bird flu outbreak? Do we close? Do we stay open and limit patron contact? Do we let books be checked out and, as a result of the possibility of their being returned laden with germs, not require them to be returned? Any assistance or thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thank you. David W. Keeber, MLS Library Director Sedona Public Library 3250 White Bear Road Sedona, AZ 86336 928.282.7714 dkeeber@sedonalibrary.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/8f58d4f8/attachment.htm From SHenricks at stout.dubuque.lib.ia.us Wed May 3 12:56:00 2006 From: SHenricks at stout.dubuque.lib.ia.us (Susan Henricks) Date: Wed May 3 13:24:04 2006 Subject: [Publib] re: disaster plans Message-ID: I'm in the middle of creating disaster and emergency plan and have found the book "Disaster Planning" : A How-To-Do-It Manual for Librarians with Planning Templates on CD-ROM very helpful. Written by Deborah D. Halsted, Richard P. Jasper, and Felicia M. Little. It's a Neal-Schumen Book (How to do it manual #129) and was published last fall. It is written from an academic library point of view, but it easily translates. Susan Hi, I work in a branch of an urban public library system, and we have been given the task to write a disaster/emergency plan for our branch for things such as fires, tornadoes, threatening patrons, etc. Does anyone have any tips or suggestions on what to include or have a plan they would be willing to share? Thanks in advance, Carlie Susan Henricks, Library Director Carnegie-Stout Public Library 360 W. 11th Street Dubuque, IA 52001 563-589-4126 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/c3686990/attachment.htm From catalib at plattsburghlib.org Wed May 3 13:29:26 2006 From: catalib at plattsburghlib.org (Colleen Pelletier) Date: Wed May 3 13:30:07 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Why librarianship? Message-ID: <004101c66ed7$20b1b920$0301a8c0@plattsbuwg4f8p> I just wanted to add that after reading all of these messages, I have to agree with Joshua. In retrospect, it is kind of sad. It's all given me a new goal. When I tease my brothers and my friends that their children are librarians in the making, it will now be more serious. I'll try and show the parents how challenging the profession is and how satisfying it can be at the same time. Maybe, just maybe, it will make a difference in some child's choice of career. (Sounds really good doesn't it ) Colleen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/39a68b7c/attachment.htm From suekamm at mindspring.com Wed May 3 13:36:28 2006 From: suekamm at mindspring.com (Sue Kamm) Date: Wed May 3 13:36:31 2006 Subject: [Publib] Bird Flu Planning Message-ID: <109167.1146677788603.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/89d24f81/attachment.htm From ghazelton at mail.henry.public.lib.ga.us Wed May 3 13:52:58 2006 From: ghazelton at mail.henry.public.lib.ga.us (George Hazelton) Date: Wed May 3 13:56:35 2006 Subject: [Publib] Bird Flu Planning In-Reply-To: <109167.1146677788603.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <004f01c66eda$6a1450c0$4101a8c0@HCLSGHAZELTON> Have a look at Barry's book The Great Influenza for a chilling look at the impact of the 1918 flu on this country. Not a pretty picture. George Hazelton Assistant Director Henry County Library System 1001 Florence McGarity Pkwy McDonough, GA 30252 Phone: 770-954-2806 FAX: 770-954-2808 email: ghazelton@mail.henry.public.lib.ga.us _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Sue Kamm Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:36 PM To: David Keeber; publib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Publib] Bird Flu Planning Have public health officials weighed in on this? I suggest we follow their advice, which is why they get the big bucks. I was a mere child during the polio epidemic scares of the forties and fifties, but I don't recall any restriction on library service. Perhaps any health historians can provide information about what happened when influenza was rampant following WWI. -----Original Message----- From: David Keeber Sent: May 3, 2006 9:22 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Bird Flu Planning Is anyone aware of planning efforts underway for the role libraries would play, and the ways in which they would manage internally, in the event of a bird flu outbreak? Do we close? Do we stay open and limit patron contact? Do we let books be checked out and, as a result of the possibility of their being returned laden with germs, not require them to be returned? Any assistance or thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thank you. David W. Keeber, MLS Library Director Sedona Public Library 3250 White Bear Road Sedona, AZ 86336 928.282.7714 dkeeber@sedonalibrary.org Your friendly CyberGoddess and Councilor-at-large, Sue Kamm Inglewood/Los Angeles, CA Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000 email: suekamm [at] mindspring.com When you absolutely, positively HAVE to know, ASK A LIBRARIAN! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/bc6df591/attachment.htm From gresd at ohoopeelibrary.org Wed May 3 13:51:01 2006 From: gresd at ohoopeelibrary.org (Dusty Gres) Date: Wed May 3 13:56:36 2006 Subject: [Publib] Bird Flu Planning In-Reply-To: <109167.1146677788603.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001001c66eda$246d0c10$140ba8c0@Director> There is a very nice info sheet called, "Are You Prepared For Pandemic Influenza?" available for free download from the Alexander Hamilton Institute ( http://www.ahipubs.com/) under free reports. Most of what it says is just common sense, and some is not applicable to us purely because of the public service aspect, but it a nice checklist to look at and some good info to pass on to employees. I, too, was a child during the polio epidemics and had three family members stricken. It is easy to forget the frightening aspects of that sort of thing until something like this reminds you. Dusty Gres, Director Ohoopee Regional Library System Hdq: Vidalia-Toombs County Library 610 Jackson Street Vidalia, GA 30474 PH: (912) 537-9283 FAX: (912) 537-3735 EMAIL: gresd@ohoopeelibrary.org WEB: http://www.ohoopeelibrary.org _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Sue Kamm Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:36 PM To: David Keeber; publib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Publib] Bird Flu Planning Have public health officials weighed in on this? I suggest we follow their advice, which is why they get the big bucks. I was a mere child during the polio epidemic scares of the forties and fifties, but I don't recall any restriction on library service. Perhaps any health historians can provide information about what happened when influenza was rampant following WWI. -----Original Message----- From: David Keeber Sent: May 3, 2006 9:22 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Bird Flu Planning Is anyone aware of planning efforts underway for the role libraries would play, and the ways in which they would manage internally, in the event of a bird flu outbreak? Do we close? Do we stay open and limit patron contact? Do we let books be checked out and, as a result of the possibility of their being returned laden with germs, not require them to be returned? Any assistance or thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thank you. David W. Keeber, MLS Library Director Sedona Public Library 3250 White Bear Road Sedona, AZ 86336 928.282.7714 dkeeber@sedonalibrary.org Your friendly CyberGoddess and Councilor-at-large, Sue Kamm Inglewood/Los Angeles, CA Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000 email: suekamm [at] mindspring.com When you absolutely, positively HAVE to know, ASK A LIBRARIAN! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/6947f74c/attachment.htm From lchlebanowski at avondale.org Wed May 3 14:11:04 2006 From: lchlebanowski at avondale.org (Lise Chlebanowski) Date: Wed May 3 14:11:19 2006 Subject: [Publib] On Being a Director Message-ID: Reassure your staff. The same thing happened to me...all I ever wanted was to be a reference librarian and all I've ever been is a director...and the last time I checked I was female! Lis? Chlebanowski Library Manager Avondale Public Library 328 W. Western Ave. Avondale, AZ 85323 623-478-3105 -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 9:02 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] On Being a Director "All I ever wanted to be was a reference librarian," is the line I've often used. And all I've ever been was/is a director. Sometimes when I say that, my female colleagues snort and say, "Well, of *course*, all the men get the good administrative jobs," etc. But I really did NOT start out to be a director. I interviewed at the Oak Park, IL, PL for a reference job--where the director had worked at the Topeka Public Library of my youth, mentioned in a "Why librarianship?" post I just sent--and didn't get it. Then the head librarian's job at the Winfield, KS, PL was advertised. It was in KANSAS, my home state, and only about 25 miles from Wellington, the town where my dad had grown up and where my paternal grandparents still lived. So there was some familiarity there, and--being the somewhat anxious type--I wanted a JOB, and feared that I would never get one and would be forever homeless, penniless, hungry and begging on the street...and after interviewing, Winfield offered me the job. So I took it. I did get to do reference work, because it was a small library. Also circ, typing catalogue cards, and a host of other things. In the process, I discovered my desire to control the world, have "my" library, and after that I was a director. I never thought about oppressing some poor woman who might want my job. I'm still not paid nearly as well as, say, my pharmacist brothers-in-law, or my incredibly well-off lawyer brother, so I may be male--no, I *am* male, no confusion there, although I am confused about many things, most of them technological--but compared to the men I know who've made it big in the private sector, I'm not rich. And that's how I got to be a director. Along the lines of other people who've posted and suggested that they got to be directors through some kind of unintentional (?) process. John D. Richmond, Director Alpha Park Public Library District 3527 So. Airport Road Bartonville, IL 61607 Ph: 309-697-3822, x. 12 Fax: 309-697-9681 Email: jrichmond@alphapark.org _______________________________________________ When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy.? -- Ludwig van Beethoven _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From lchlebanowski at avondale.org Wed May 3 14:15:49 2006 From: lchlebanowski at avondale.org (Lise Chlebanowski) Date: Wed May 3 14:15:52 2006 Subject: [Publib] RE: Why librarianship? Message-ID: One kid at a time, one kid at a time! But Colleen, I think you really hit on it, we joke around and tease, but I think there's a lot of truth to it, and maybe it's because we don't think that anyone else could love such a unique profession like we do. Then with the stereotypes on top of it, maybe we are shying away from what we think might be a hard sell. But, I think you're right that if we treat it more seriously and just try to get the word out about what a cool career it can be, it can only benefit others! Lis? Chlebanowski Library Manager Avondale Public Library 328 W. Western Ave. Avondale, AZ 85323 623-478-3105 ________________________________ From: Colleen Pelletier [mailto:catalib@plattsburghlib.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:29 AM To: Publib; Joshua Neff; Marie; Lise Chlebanowski Subject: Re: Why librarianship? I just wanted to add that after reading all of these messages, I have to agree with Joshua. In retrospect, it is kind of sad. It's all given me a new goal. When I tease my brothers and my friends that their children are librarians in the making, it will now be more serious. I'll try and show the parents how challenging the profession is and how satisfying it can be at the same time. Maybe, just maybe, it will make a difference in some child's choice of career. (Sounds really good doesn't it ) Colleen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/b731dc11/attachment.htm From lchlebanowski at avondale.org Wed May 3 14:16:40 2006 From: lchlebanowski at avondale.org (Lise Chlebanowski) Date: Wed May 3 14:16:45 2006 Subject: [Publib] Bird Flu Planning Message-ID: They had a big pow-wow about the bird flu in my city, but the library wasn't invited to attend! Lis? Chlebanowski Library Manager Avondale Public Library 328 W. Western Ave. Avondale, AZ 85323 623-478-3105 ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Sue Kamm Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:36 AM To: David Keeber; publib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Publib] Bird Flu Planning Have public health officials weighed in on this? I suggest we follow their advice, which is why they get the big bucks. I was a mere child during the polio epidemic scares of the forties and fifties, but I don't recall any restriction on library service. Perhaps any health historians can provide information about what happened when influenza was rampant following WWI. -----Original Message----- From: David Keeber Sent: May 3, 2006 9:22 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Bird Flu Planning Is anyone aware of planning efforts underway for the role libraries would play, and the ways in which they would manage internally, in the event of a bird flu outbreak? Do we close? Do we stay open and limit patron contact? Do we let books be checked out and, as a result of the possibility of their being returned laden with germs, not require them to be returned? Any assistance or thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thank you. David W. Keeber, MLS Library Director Sedona Public Library 3250 White Bear Road Sedona, AZ 86336 928.282.7714 dkeeber@sedonalibrary.org Your friendly CyberGoddess and Councilor-at-large, Sue Kamm Inglewood/Los Angeles, CA Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000 email: suekamm [at] mindspring.com When you absolutely, positively HAVE to know, ASK A LIBRARIAN! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/00142479/attachment.htm From mgolrick at brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us Wed May 3 16:39:02 2006 From: mgolrick at brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Michael Golrick) Date: Wed May 3 16:39:06 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Why Librarianship Message-ID: <3DA7F4D78EB9F04FA868B8CABF41CF94F6883F@bptlibex01.brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us> Leah Habersham asked: "Just out of curiosity... what inspired you to become a librarian?" My answer is: Miss Osborn. She was the Children's Librarian in my hometown library (Shrewsbury Free Public Library, in Massachusetts). She encouraged so many of us to read. She did story times with all the traditional activities, which is why I can say the Native American name of the lake in Webster Massachusetts which is the longest place name in this country. By the time I was in high school, she had become the Library Director. She hired me as a page. As time went on (and I stuck it out), I got more and more "interesting" tasks to do. They included riding the bookmobile, checking the journals against the catalog, etc. Now my next door neighbor (Mrs. Ober) was both on the Library Board (elected) and was the public high school librarian. Between the two of them, they encouraged me. When I got to college, my work study job was...in the library. By the end of four years, I was often the senior student assistant, and in charge of services in the building during the late night hours. In that job, there were several of the staff who very strongly encouraged me so that I went to library school straight from undergrad....graduated on a Monday, started classes the next Monday. Do I regret it? Not for a moment. Its been 30 years so far, and will be at least another 20, I guess (based on the size of the loans *I* have for my kids' education). When it gets boring or no longer fun, maybe I'll change careers. Hasn't happened yet. Excellent question Leah! Michael Michael A. Golrick mgolrick@bridgeportpubliclibrary.org City Librarian http://www.bridgeportpubliclibrary.org Bridgeport Public Library 203/576.7777 (office) 925 Broad Street 203/333.0253 (fax) Bridgeport CT 06604-4871 ALA Executive Board http://michaelgolrick.blogspot.com From ecuckow at lclsonline.org Wed May 3 17:03:18 2006 From: ecuckow at lclsonline.org (Elizabeth Cuckow) Date: Wed May 3 17:03:44 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why librarianship Message-ID: Short answer: because Harvard University has great benefits. :-) Long answer in short sentences: Lifelong library user, never thought of it as a career option. Foolishly thought I wanted to work in academic fundraising (???) so got a job at Harvard after college. Quickly realized my error, started casting around for a way out, took some classes on career changes through the human resources department (free!). The Strong Interest Survey results had some form of librarianship in four of my top five results, so started talking to people about the field. Light dawned, went to library school, here I am. (And while I am not a director, I never thought I'd be a manager, either, and yet ... nine months into my professional career, I got promoted. Hmm.) Elizabeth Elizabeth Cuckow Manager, Information Services Laramie County Library System 2800 Central Ave., Cheyenne WY 82001 www.LCLSonline.org 307.634.3561 ext. 141 ecuckow@LCLSonline.org From filleul at noblenet.org Wed May 3 17:24:10 2006 From: filleul at noblenet.org (Michelle Filleul) Date: Wed May 3 17:21:51 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why librarianship Message-ID: <200605032124.k43LOA801853@mail.noblenet.org> Harvard paid for my library school too! or most of it. I always went to the library when I was younger, I loved my town library. When I was an undergrad I worked in two different libraries as a work study student. After I was finished I had intended on doing something related to media studies but realized that there really wasn't anything concrete in that and thought that working in a library worked in practical terms and also with my belief system. I can believe in what I do, I am not selling something to someone I wouldn't want them to buy. On Wed, 03 May 2006 15:03:18 -0600 "Elizabeth Cuckow" wrote: > Short answer: because Harvard University has great benefits. :-) > > Long answer in short sentences: > > Lifelong library user, never thought of it as a career option. > Foolishly thought I wanted to work in academic fundraising (???) so got > a job at Harvard after college. Quickly realized my error, started > casting around for a way out, took some classes on career changes > through the human resources department (free!). Michelle Filleul Head of Circulation Reading Public Library Reading, MA 01867 From sedanlib at terraworld.net Wed May 3 17:39:58 2006 From: sedanlib at terraworld.net (Kathleen McCorkle) Date: Wed May 3 17:42:04 2006 Subject: [Publib] Publib] Why librarianship Message-ID: <011c01c66efa$20c33060$9b01a8c0@staff> Because the lady who ran the library gave me an application and said "please fill this out". I did and was hired for seven hours per week. A year and a half later the board asked me to take over (Opal was very sick) I did, our system center was only a phone call away and made available many workshops to train us each year. The challenges are great but with SEKLS they have all been doable. I have truly enjoyed every moment, well maybe not the problem patrons, but hey they are few and far between. I saw my first computer in 1998 and this year our library, which serves a town of a little over 1200 is going to automate. I should have made this my profession but with six kids my life was fun and exciting anyway. :-) I have always loved to read and probably have my name on most of the cards in the older books in this library. Kathleen McCorkle Sedan Public Library 115 N. Chautauqua Sedan, KS 67361 620 725 3405 sedanlib@terraworld.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/9d01fcae/attachment.htm From kristie_boucher at hotmail.com Wed May 3 17:48:15 2006 From: kristie_boucher at hotmail.com (Kristie Boucher) Date: Wed May 3 17:48:19 2006 Subject: [Publib] RE: Why librarianship? Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/de4a6e80/attachment.htm From crose at uproc.lib.mi.us Wed May 3 18:17:18 2006 From: crose at uproc.lib.mi.us (Claire Rose) Date: Wed May 3 18:13:10 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? In-Reply-To: <20060502160005.D827B189AE7@lists.webjunction.org> References: <20060502160005.D827B189AE7@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20060503181015.02d303d0@als.uproc.lib.mi.us> When I was a kid, I used to imagine that I could somehow live in a secret room of the library, and come out at night to read what ever I wanted. This could be because we had a school librarian who only let us check out books from our "grade level." At any rate the library was the coolest place I could imagine living or working. I sometimes think I am living here, but I still think it is a cool place to work. At 12:00 PM 5/2/2006, you wrote: >Just out of curiosity... what inspired you to become a librarian? > > _____ Claire Rose Deputy Director Peter White Public Library 217 N. Front Street Marquette, MI Phone: (906) 226-4305 Fax: (906) 226-1783 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/b96ac380/attachment.htm From nbhilyard at zblibrary.org Wed May 3 18:28:39 2006 From: nbhilyard at zblibrary.org (Nann Blaine Hilyard) Date: Wed May 3 18:28:42 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? Message-ID: <9191C938D9F9504388C55F1225A34F7912084F@ZBPLSRV04.zblibrary.local> I've tried to resist joining this thread, but you've pulled me in! The short answer is: I'm a librarian because I like books, I like people, and I like connecting them. The long anwer is: I grew up surrounded by books. The suburb where I grew up had excellent school libraries (with MLS staff) and a superb public library (and still does). The house we moved into in 1962 was chosen because it was close to the village center: the train depot, the shopping center, our church, and The Library. In 1969 the library moved from two blocks southeast of our street to two blocks southwest of our street. When I was 16 I started working at NPL as a bookshelver (at the old building for a while, then at the new building). I went to the University of Missouri to major in journalism. (Words, books, paper, research...first cousin to librarianship.) My dorm roommate was a library science major (MU then offered a BA in library science, with the warning that students needed to get an MLS). I had a small crisis after first semester and decided to change my major to library science. By the time I finished my BA (three years and a summer) I was president of the college panhellenic council and my office didn't end until that December. I found out that I could transfer only 6 MLS credits to another university. So I stayed at MU and got my MLS in August, 1974. (Though the program was not as academically distinguished as others, my parents were only going to support me through four years of college and I really wanted to complete the panhel term.) I was a graduate assistant to Helmut Lehmann-Haupt, the rare books prof, and I had a Saturday job in the undergrad library. I spent the next school year as a traveling consultant for my fraternity. In February I was sent to Texas A&M to start a chapter there. I had begun to look for library jobs -- I'd been going to college campuses and I just knew I wanted to do rare books and academic reference. I did, however, pay a call on Hazel Richardson, head librarian at the Bryan, TX, Public Library. She intimidated me, but I evidently impressed her because when the library board of the Nancy Carol Roberts Memorial Library in Brenham, TX, needed a new librarian for their new building they called Mrs. Richardson who told them that she had just met a nice young woman who was looking for a professional job. I had never thought about working in a public library in a small Texas city, let alone directing it, but I was ready to start my career. They hired me. I started May 1. That was 31 years ago this week, and here I am! Nann @the library in Zion, Illinois -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/b4ff5100/attachment.htm From cdieden at mppl.org Wed May 3 18:30:04 2006 From: cdieden at mppl.org (Dieden, Cynthia) Date: Wed May 3 18:28:58 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? References: <20060502160005.D827B189AE7@lists.webjunction.org> <6.0.0.22.2.20060503181015.02d303d0@als.uproc.lib.mi.us> Message-ID: <69F590CAD6C42245A58D8FBBB607DE2C661E@mordac.MPPL.info> What else do you do when you can't sleep at night until you find the answer to the questions that came up in dinner conversation? It is satisfying. And, I wanted to end up in a profession that involves service and gives back to the community - one that let's me sleep all the other nights (when I'm not determined to find an answer :) Cynthia Dieden Collection Specialist Librarian Mount Prospect Public Library 847-253-5675 ext. 3647 cdieden@mppl.org Opinions expressed are those of the sender and not of Mount Prospect Public Library ________________________________ At 12:00 PM 5/2/2006, you wrote: Just out of curiosity... what inspired you to become a librarian? _____ Claire Rose Deputy Director Peter White Public Library 217 N. Front Street Marquette, MI Phone: (906) 226-4305 Fax: (906) 226-1783 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060503/dd7ec5e3/attachment.htm From perrigo.spicer at verizon.net Thu May 4 08:33:54 2006 From: perrigo.spicer at verizon.net (ANN PERRIGO) Date: Thu May 4 08:33:34 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Why Librarianship References: <4457376C0200005400003448@gwmail4.ci.aurora.co.us> Message-ID: <008201c66f77$024d0070$2e01a8c0@D3L96X31> Oh, yeah! I had a library in the attic, complete with checkout cards! I'm not sure how much it was used, but at a class reunion one of my childhood friends commented on it as she was introducing me to her husband, so I guess she remembered! Actually, two different types of librarians influenced my decision--when I was little, Mr. Helms was at our library. He was wonderful! We all loved going, and were made to feel very welcome! Then in high school, there was a not-quite-so-child-friendly director! She was a former Marine, and let me tell you, teenagers were not her favorite people! So I decided I wanted to be a librarian like Mr. Helms--someday I would have a "friendly" library! Little did I know at the time, that I would end up in the very same library that had such an effect on me as a child! :-) Isn't life fun?? Ann Perrigo, Director Allegan (MI) Public Library (hometown girl come home!) From MMorris at daytonmetrolibrary.org Thu May 4 08:55:34 2006 From: MMorris at daytonmetrolibrary.org (Mimi Morris) Date: Thu May 4 08:55:40 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? Message-ID: <7898A79C279DB84281A9B3CEEDBA48F701698F60@mail.DMCPL.local> Nann and Claire Rose, You've convinced me to jump in too! I lived in inner city Indianapolis, and the library was my refuge from a tough environment. Like Claire Rose, I fantasized about hiding in the stacks because I was convinced the books came alive at night...come to think of it, I still think there is something magical about being alone in a closed library. In high school, we were in a better neighborhood, but I still spent a lot of time at the library and darn if that librarian didn't seem to know EVERYTHING! At the same time, I started working in my school library-at first to get out of study hall-but then became fascinated. Mrs. Bobbitt, the librarian, gave me progressively more interesting work and encouraged me to think about librarianship. I was President of Library Club, part of the city-wide Librarian for a Day program, and I was hooked. I went straight through undergrad and grad school and straight into my first job. I always wanted to be a branch manager, and I was for 10 years. Then I decided I wanted to have a bigger impact on what branches did, and became a branch coordinator, and here I am. Mostly, I've always wanted to be in a job where I know I am making a difference, and here I am. Thanks, everyone, for sharing your stories! Mimi Morris Assistant Director for Branch and Extension Services Dayton Metro Library ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Nann Blaine Hilyard Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 6:29 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? I've tried to resist joining this thread, but you've pulled me in! The short answer is: I'm a librarian because I like books, I like people, and I like connecting them. The long anwer is: I grew up surrounded by books. The suburb where I grew up had excellent school libraries (with MLS staff) and a superb public library (and still does). The house we moved into in 1962 was chosen because it was close to the village center: the train depot, the shopping center, our church, and The Library. In 1969 the library moved from two blocks southeast of our street to two blocks southwest of our street. When I was 16 I started working at NPL as a bookshelver (at the old building for a while, then at the new building). I went to the University of Missouri to major in journalism. (Words, books, paper, research...first cousin to librarianship.) My dorm roommate was a library science major (MU then offered a BA in library science, with the warning that students needed to get an MLS). I had a small crisis after first semester and decided to change my major to library science. By the time I finished my BA (three years and a summer) I was president of the college panhellenic council and my office didn't end until that December. I found out that I could transfer only 6 MLS credits to another university. So I stayed at MU and got my MLS in August, 1974. (Though the program was not as academically distinguished as others, my parents were only going to support me through four years of college and I really wanted to complete the panhel term.) I was a graduate assistant to Helmut Lehmann-Haupt, the rare books prof, and I had a Saturday job in the undergrad library. I spent the next school year as a traveling consultant for my fraternity. In February I was sent to Texas A&M to start a chapter there. I had begun to look for library jobs -- I'd been going to college campuses and I just knew I wanted to do rare books and academic reference. I did, however, pay a call on Hazel Richardson, head librarian at the Bryan, TX, Public Library. She intimidated me, but I evidently impressed her because when the library board of the Nancy Carol Roberts Memorial Library in Brenham, TX, needed a new librarian for their new building they called Mrs. Richardson who told them that she had just met a nice young woman who was looking for a professional job. I had never thought about working in a public library in a small Texas city, let alone directing it, but I was ready to start my career. They hired me. I started May 1. 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Bruce -- Bruce Flanders, Director Lawrence Public Library 707 Vermont Street Lawrence, KS 66044-2371 (785) 843-3833 phone (785) 843-3368 fax bflanders@lawrence.lib.ks.us "We have tomorrow bright before us like a flame." - Langston Hughes -- From Kwolicki at nileslibrary.org Thu May 4 13:05:32 2006 From: Kwolicki at nileslibrary.org (Kate Wolicki) Date: Thu May 4 13:21:03 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why I'm a Librarian Message-ID: What? NONE of us said "I became a librarian because I want to sit around and read, do as little as possible, keep people from getting what they want, and collect a government pension"!?!?!? I don't know if non-patrons and politicians will believe us. grin. Kate Wolicki Niles PLD Niles, IL From cnienke at andoverlibrary.org Thu May 4 12:15:42 2006 From: cnienke at andoverlibrary.org (Cheri Nienke) Date: Thu May 4 13:21:04 2006 Subject: [Publib] library DVD disc retrieval systems Message-ID: We are looking at purchasing a Disc Retrieval System to house our DVD collection. The choices we have found are for manual or computer selection functions........how do these work? Any problems? Glitches? Do you love it? Is it a pain? Thanks for the help, Cheri Nienke Cheri Nienke Assistant Director Andover Public Library 937 N. Andover Rd. Andover, KS 67002 316-733-4599 cnienk@andoverlibrary.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From judy at derbylibrary.com Thu May 4 13:58:24 2006 From: judy at derbylibrary.com (Judy Bennett) Date: Thu May 4 14:06:35 2006 Subject: [Publib] Bird Flu Planning Message-ID: <445A40C0.80307@derbylibrary.com> My son works in the Office of the Secretary of Health & Human Services. The avian flu/pandemic is one of the major tasks in which he is involved. I asked him when he was home last December for the holidays what preparations and plans should I be doing with the library on this issue. Of course, he had some of the same common sense answers that are widely publicized. My concern while the library is open involves the handling of materials, germs being spread, etc. Although I have not yet made any definitive plans or stocked up on items, I am giving serious consideration to staff using gloves, using lots of cleaning wipes and perhaps masks to protect from them from airborn germs. Our library is directly across from a large doctor's office and we already get people who come in to the library who tell us the doctor has just sent them home to rest because they're ill. Of course, they need something to read or watch or listen to before they do that -- we all know how that is! When I asked my son specifically about plans to close he said that we should monitor the schools and when/if the schools close, the library should also close. This idea goes against many of our policies because we like to be open for the public to use us when the schools are closed. However, because the pandemic needs to be contained, public service departments like the library need to be closed to help with containment in the community. I also specifically inquired about libraries who have traditionally followed the lead of their City Halls regarding closing policies and he said in the case of a pandemic the library most likely should close before city offices. Obviously, parts of the City government will have to stay operational during a pandemic and most likely only minimal staff will be on duty; some of these workers, though, will may not have direct contact with the public. My son's recommendation is that a library should be of priority and be higher ranked than city offices on a community's recommended closing list. My son didn't have a good solution about vaccinations for staff, other than to encourage employees to get a flu shot every year. The flu shots currently available will provide only minimal protection against the bird flu but they do help provide better health and immunities that will be very important when/if a pandemic is in process. One thing I haven't yet decided how to handle is the possible scenario involving staff who will not/refuse/cannot work when the library has not yet closed to the public; their fears will be valid. I don't have any good answers for this one. And then there's these issues: Do we close to the public to minimize containment but have staff continue to work? What about pay during the closed time period? My initial reaction to these questions is to say that we treat this like a closing for inclement weather; staff stays home and we pay, as the employees should not be penalized for situations out of their control. Of course, even getting a paycheck may be a mute point depending on who actually cuts & distributes the library's payroll and whether or not they are working! Whew! One thing leads to another! I'm sure, though, that we can all agree it is a complicated situation and, in my opinion, like all of our library services, must be tailored to our local community. Judy -- Judy K. Bennett Director Derby Public Library 611 Mulberry Derby KS 67037 316-788-0760 (phone) 316-788-7313 (fax) judy@derbylibrary.com From dwood at ala.org Thu May 4 14:52:27 2006 From: dwood at ala.org (Don Wood) Date: Thu May 4 14:52:53 2006 Subject: [Publib] Action needed on Net Neutrality bill Message-ID: ALAWON: American Library Association Washington Office Newsline Volume 15, Number 49 May 4, 2006 In This Issue: Action Needed on Net Neutrality Bill Yesterday Representative Ed Markey (D-MA) sent a letter to his colleagues in the Congress asking for support of H.R. 5273, the "Network Neutrality Act of 2006," a bill he co-sponsored along with Representatives Boucher (D-VA), Eshoo (D-CA), and Inslee (D- WA). Please call your Members of Congress today and urge them to co- sponsor this important legislation. Background: Until now, all Internet content is equally accessible to users - it is not more difficult to access one website than another. But some Internet Service Providers (ISPs) want to change the rules - economically or technically - to allow favored access to some content providers for an added fee. If the nation's largest telephone and cable companies are allowed to limit access and discriminate against those who cannot pay higher tolls, then libraries, schools, colleges, non-profit groups, small businesses, independent publications and bloggers could be blocked from digital-age benefits and innovations. Library advocates can make a difference by emphasizing the need for network neutrality and an open Internet and its importance to library users, businesses, education and the general public. Key Messages: Ask your Member of Congress co-sponsor H.R. 5273 and preserve network neutrality. Please feel free to use the following messages: * Libraries are committed to the core principle of open and equitable access to information of all kinds. The Internet is built upon a similar principle that ensures the ability of all people to publish and access information without discriminatory barriers. * Libraries are both users and creators of Internet content. It is critical for libraries to have non-discriminatory access to serve the public whether for those who come to libraries or those who remotely access library resources. * H.R. 5273 is civil rights for the Internet. It will ensure that the basic and essential principle of open and non-discriminatory access to all information will endure. A copy of the bill is located here: http://markey.house.gov/docs/telecomm/Markey%20Net%20Neutrality%20 Act%20of%202006.pdf ****** ALAWON (ISSN 1069-7799) is a free, irregular publication of the American Library Association Washington Office. All materials subject to copyright by the American Library Association may be reprinted or redistributed for noncommercial purposes with appropriate credits. To subscribe to ALAWON, send the message: subscribe ala-wo [your_firstname] [your_lastname] to listproc@ala.org or go to http://www.ala.org/washoff/alawon. ALAWON archives at http://www.ala.org/washoff/alawon. ALA Washington Office, 1615 New Hampshire Ave., N.W., First Floor, Washington, D.C. 20009-2520; phone: 202.628.8410 or 800.941.8478 toll-free; fax: 202.628.8419; Web site: http://www.ala.org/washoff. Executive Director: Emily Sheketoff. Office of Government Relations: Lynne Bradley, Director; Don Essex, Melanie Anderson, Erin Haggerty, Patrice McDermott and Miriam Nisbet. Office for Information Technology Policy: Rick Weingarten, Director; Carrie Lowe, Kathy Mitchell, Carrie Russell. ALAWON Editor: Bernadette Murphy. From mcoleman at bcgov.net Thu May 4 14:59:16 2006 From: mcoleman at bcgov.net (Marlene Coleman) Date: Thu May 4 14:59:24 2006 Subject: [Publib] RE: Becoming Librarians Message-ID: <) Colleen.>> And it makes a difference... Even though it drives my kids crazy...I talk to them, their friends, and anyone else that shows any curiosity, about what a great job being a librarian is! A couple years ago I was at a conference where one of the presentations gave the results of a study, about how people became librarians. There were some who just happened into it of course....but predominately most of them KNEW someone who was one. It was either a relative, friend of the family, or a librarian at a school or public library, who acted positive about there job, and was a good mentor and role model. I was thankfully introduced to libraries early and often, and though I wanted to be a page...that job just never opened up for me...it wasn't until I got into my first year of teaching elementary school that I realized that the best thing I liked about education courses was children's literature, and I went back to library school immediately! As life is serendipity I never became a Children's Librarian (except to my kids), but then there's lots of roles in being a librarian...and right now all you "Teen Librarians" or those who working with middle school students, can have a big impact on our profession (it starts early), by encouraging and developing the ones who show interest in learning and questioning things, and like to find things... Marlene F. Coleman, MLIS ~ Beaufort Branch Manager Beaufort County Library System 311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29905 843-470-6544 ~ mcoleman@bcgov.net www.bcgov.net/library For Learning ? For Leisure ? For Life From sriley at wlsmail.org Thu May 4 15:18:12 2006 From: sriley at wlsmail.org (Susan Riley) Date: Thu May 4 15:21:15 2006 Subject: [Publib] re: on being a director Message-ID: <445A5374.4090101@wlsmail.org> My story is a little different. I was a reference and young adult librarian when I realized I was possibly facing a divorce. I knew that I couldn't raise 3 children on a librarian's salary, so I interviewed at several libraries with director openings and was offered 2 of them. It's kind of sad that I felt like I was forced into a career change, but thankfully I discovered that I enjoy at least most of the administrative responsibilities, and perhaps it's helped me be a strong advocate for services to teens. Susan -- Susan Riley, Library Director Mount Kisco Public Library 100 Main Street Mount Kisco, NY 10549 (p) 914-666-8041 (f) 914-666-3899 sriley@wlsmail.org From dale.mcneill at gmail.com Thu May 4 16:05:36 2006 From: dale.mcneill at gmail.com (Dale McNeill) Date: Thu May 4 16:05:39 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why I'm a Librarian In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69cd9c750605041305vadd4dc9q8233decb20fd8fb@mail.gmail.com> Well, as I told the orginal questioner, one of my main motivations to first work in a library was that it had air conditioning! (I was working as a welder/metal shop assistant previously.) From there, I later would have better motivations for the MLS... Dale On 5/4/06, Kate Wolicki wrote: > > What? NONE of us said "I became a librarian because I want to sit > around and read, do as little as possible, keep people from getting what > they want, and collect a government pension"!?!?!? > > I don't know if non-patrons and politicians will believe us. > > grin. > > Kate Wolicki > Niles PLD > Niles, IL > _______________________________________________ > Publib mailing list > Publib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060504/ea1e1c32/attachment.htm From dwegener at ci.lincoln.ca.us Thu May 4 17:20:07 2006 From: dwegener at ci.lincoln.ca.us (Darla Wegener) Date: Thu May 4 17:17:43 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why librarianship Message-ID: <668805DEF054734884DEC07AAAF5633F5DC7E7@CHEX.lincoln.loc> Short answer: The library page job paid the same as the child care job. Long answer: I went looking for a child care job because my major was Child Development. I was going to teach. The HR person pointed out the page job and it began. The staff at Santa Fe Springs Library (Thanks Monica, Helen, Cherie, and Diane) always made the job enjoyable and educational. I never wanted to leave, but marriage and a need for FT job led me further along the path. So for the next 12 years I was a Circulation Supervisor. The inspiration to be a librarian came from a lot of sources during my working career (Karen, Linda, Barbara, Ellen, Julie, just to mention a few). Boredom from my job brought me to Library school. Once a graduate, due to my supervisory background I did management, Tech. Services first and then a Branch, and now I am a Director. This is from someone who during library school called herself a future YA librarian. Darla Darla Wegener Director of Library Services Lincoln Public Library 590 Fifth Street Lincoln, CA 95648 916 645-6377 From katnip59 at aol.com Thu May 4 19:02:01 2006 From: katnip59 at aol.com (katnip59@aol.com) Date: Thu May 4 19:01:53 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? Message-ID: <8C83DE5E3689444-1310-1246@MBLK-M27.sysops.aol.com> Me too Nann. I like books and people and I like hooking the people up with the books. I always knew I wanted to do this and I tried and tried to get a job in a library when I was a teenager, but no luck. (Are you listening Bristol Public Library in CT?!) But truly I love reading and talking about books, I'm curious about everything, I like ideas and information, and I never give up searching for answers when someone asks an intriguing question. Oddly enough, this is a second career for me. I spent 15+ years in human resources/personnel administration in the business world before going to library school. So apparently, I also like "helping". I would think long and hard before walking away from public service in the library setting to become a manager or director in a library. I always thought it was funny that people are rewarded for being good widget makers by being promoted to supervisor of the widget makers - as if the skills are remotely related. Plus if I wanted to manage people, I'd have made more money at it in the business world. I'm not saying I wouldn't take a promotion, but I'd have to think about whether it is something I really want to do. I wouldn't do it for the money. Katie Bunn Farmington Library, CT Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 17:28:39 -0500 From: "Nann Blaine Hilyard" Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? To: I've tried to resist joining this thread, but you've pulled me in! The short answer is: I'm a librarian because I like books, I like people, and I like connecting them. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060504/9323c1c5/attachment.htm From bwitters at nols.org Thu May 4 19:16:26 2006 From: bwitters at nols.org (Beth Witters) Date: Thu May 4 19:16:29 2006 Subject: [Publib] Microfilm Message-ID: <151DD6A73043ED48A43130E4EFDA1E1A04EA22@OTTER.lib.nols.org> We are weeding out the following microfilm journals. If you would like any of these for the price of postage, please contact Beth Witters North Olympic Library System bwitters@nols.org Americas 1988-1996 Astronomy 1988-1996 Christianity Today 1988-1995 Commonweal 1988-1995 Congressional Digest 1981-1999\ Fortune 1988-1996 Futurist 1988-1996 House Beautiful 1988-1996 MacLeans 1986-1996 National Review 1988-1996 New Republic 1981-1996 Readers Digest 1976-1996 Redbook Nov 1988 - Oct 1997 Sierra 1988-1996 UN Chronicle 1980-1996 Unesco Courier 1973-79, 1981-1996 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060504/207cf9c8/attachment.htm From lchlebanowski at avondale.org Thu May 4 19:16:44 2006 From: lchlebanowski at avondale.org (Lise Chlebanowski) Date: Thu May 4 19:16:48 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? Message-ID: WAIT! You can make more money in the business world? Dang! :-)))) Lis? Chlebanowski Library Manager Avondale Public Library 328 W. Western Ave. Avondale, AZ 85323 623-478-3105 ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of katnip59@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 4:02 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? Me too Nann. I like books and people and I like hooking the people up with the books. I always knew I wanted to do this and I tried and tried to get a job in a library when I was a teenager, but no luck. (Are you listening Bristol Public Library in CT?!) But truly I love reading and talking about books, I'm curious about everything, I like ideas and information, and I never give up searching for answers when someone asks an intriguing question. Oddly enough, this is a second career for me. I spent 15+ years in human resources/personnel administration in the business world before going to library school. So apparently, I also like "helping". I would think long and hard before walking away from public service in the library setting to become a manager or director in a library. I always thought it was funny that people are rewarded for being good widget makers by being promoted to supervisor of the widget makers - as if the skills are remotely related. Plus if I wanted to manage people, I'd have made more money at it in the business world. I'm not saying I wouldn't take a promotion, but I'd have to think about whether it is something I really want to do. I wouldn't do it for the money. Katie Bunn Farmington Library, CT Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 17:28:39 -0500 From: "Nann Blaine Hilyard" > Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? To: > I've tried to resist joining this thread, but you've pulled me in! The short answer is: I'm a librarian because I like books, I like people, and I like connecting them. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060504/fc4a7678/attachment.htm From KTDyer at aol.com Thu May 4 20:05:27 2006 From: KTDyer at aol.com (KTDyer@aol.com) Date: Thu May 4 20:05:34 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Remember the discussion on totes? Message-ID: <30d.3cc4d89.318bf0c7@aol.com> I am a little late chiming in. Our Friends' group bought about 500 totes. One of the Friends created the art work and we cane up with a slogan we liked. We have been selling the totes for $10 to the public and $7 to library staff. We have sold a bunch but it looks like we will have quite a supply for quite some time. Sales have slacked off. We use them for the bag day portion of our book sales--fill a tote with books for a total of $13. I still think it's a great idea but I have a feeling I'm going to be accumulating totes. They are so convenient that I have bought several--in fact, whenever I am in the library checking out books, I want a tote! My family is a bit disgusted that I have to own so many totes, but I'm happy. The price was right and I think we have recouped our costs so it's all gravy from here out. Two cents from Karen Dyer, Trustee California Assoc. of Library Trustees and Commissioners In a message dated 4/20/2006 12:05:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, publib-request@webjunction.org writes: Does any one have any experience in setting prices for such? What has been your experience in sales volume, etc.? (George) We sold canvas totes as a Friends project--cost was $7?? and we sold them for $10 with a slight discount to Friends members. When the supply was used we invested instead in the less-expensive microfiber totebags. They cost $1.50 or so and we sell them for $3. The cost is low enough that we can give them away when we do community promotions. The sellin price is low enough that many people buy them. Nann @the library in Zion, Illinois We sell nice canvas tote bags with the library's picture and name on them for $10.00. I believe we paid about $3.50/each for them. We ordered 300 of them when our new building opened 5 years ago and we are down to our last box of 50. They are great for Christmas gifts and very popular with new people who move into the community and come to the branch for the first time. And good for publicity too. Liz Reed, Branch Manager Richfield Branch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060504/4481f3c3/attachment.htm From perrigo.spicer at verizon.net Thu May 4 20:30:30 2006 From: perrigo.spicer at verizon.net (ANN PERRIGO) Date: Thu May 4 20:30:34 2006 Subject: [Publib] RE: Why librarianship? References: Message-ID: <00ad01c66fdb$1d91c050$2e01a8c0@D3L96X31> Lise said: One kid at a time, one kid at a time! But Colleen, I think you really hit on it, we joke around and tease, but I think there's a lot of truth to it, and maybe it's because we don't think that anyone else could love such a unique profession like we do. Then with the stereotypes on top of it, maybe we are shying away from what we think might be a hard sell. But, I think you're right that if we treat it more seriously and just try to get the word out about what a cool career it can be, it can only benefit others! Don't you all do career days at elementary schools? I go every year and that's exactly what I tell them--how much fun it is to be a librarian, and all the cool things we get to do! If I see a child two years in a row, I know I've made inroads. It is fun to share--especially with the younger ones. Most of them have not a clue what we do! (And part of our job is to make them believe it could be a great career!) 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Western Ave. Avondale, AZ 85323 623-478-3105 From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of katnip59@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 4:02 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? I would think long and hard before walking away from public service in the library setting to become a manager or director in a library. I always thought it was funny that people are rewarded for being good widget makers by being promoted to supervisor of the widget makers - as if the skills are remotely related. Plus if I wanted to manage people, I'd have made more money at it in the business world. I'm not saying I wouldn't take a promotion, but I'd have to think about whether it is something I really want to do. I wouldn't do it for the money. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Resources, materials, programming - anything. > I'm making up a wish list. > > Thanks, Jan. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Publib mailing list >Publib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > > Jan: I don't have any specific suggestions for you, but I would like to recommend that you subscribe to the blog popgoesthe library.com for some ideas. The bloggers are all pop culture mavens and librarians, and at least one of them is a YA librarian with some really great ideas. Anne Frontino Head, Technical Services Haddonfield Public Library Haddonfield NJ 08033 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060505/2a7575c5/attachment.htm From lborowsk at decorah.lib.ia.us Fri May 5 10:00:41 2006 From: lborowsk at decorah.lib.ia.us (Lorraine Borowski) Date: Fri May 5 10:00:47 2006 Subject: [Publib] Best teen and senior resources In-Reply-To: <445B5065.5060101@haddonfieldlibrary.org> Message-ID: <20060505140048.227217D78@alpine2.alpinecom.net> Decorah Public Library, Decorah, IA. Population 8200. : We have an Outreach program for senior?s that includes home delivery twice a month by volunteers. Our coordinator fills the requests and the volunteer drops off and picks up books. The Outreach program also includes visiting the three care facilities twice a month. The library has been able to secure county funding for the program because the residents go beyond the city limits. It has been a very valuable program. It?s easy to see the progression as a avid library user ages, can not get into the library but still wants too read. They can receive the books in their home. Several times we have heard that people are moving out of their home and into facilities. Within a very short time they meet the familiar library staff person and reading continues on. Our library is the Retired Senior Volunteer Program sponsor. (RSVP) which assists in finding the needed volunteers. Youth: The library does have a strong after school program. The Youth Service Coordinator plans weekly gatherings know as DPL Caf?. Programs including crafts, games and healthy snacks are offered and funded through area grants and funding sources. Summer Reading program includes youth. Programming such as book discussion, special speakers and various celebrations all go to make up a wonderful opportunity which is free to all. Good luck. L. Lorraine Borowski, Director Decorah Public Library _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Anne Frontino Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 8:17 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Publib] Best teen and senior resources Jan Baker wrote: Hi all, I feel our library underserves our seniors and teens. Town population of about 10,000. Can you tell me what you do that your seniors / teens love? Resources, materials, programming - anything. I'm making up a wish list. Thanks, Jan. _____ _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib Jan: I don't have any specific suggestions for you, but I would like to recommend that you subscribe to the blog popgoesthe library.com for some ideas. The bloggers are all pop culture mavens and librarians, and at least one of them is a YA librarian with some really great ideas. 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You know the scene in the Blue Brothers movie when the light comes through the stained glass window and Jake and Elwood claim they've had a vision from God? My German major sophomore self felt the same way when I discovered there was such a thing as a master's in library science. It was meant to be. Although Laura Ver Plank, my high school librarian, always tried to take the credit. As for the Director thing? I was the Head of Adult Services at a public library that shall remain unnamed and I was miserable. My first Director there was a nice old guy who couldn't make a decision to save his life, because someone might be unhappy about it. Took forever to get anything done. His replacement was even worse in many ways. I knew I had to get out of there, and off to the first of my 3 directorships I went. And Director it is for me. MIddle management, never again. If I decide to stop doing this it's back to a service desk to directly serve patrons. Though I am starting to suspect I will eventually retire from this current job. Although the looming prospect of building what will be my 5th, 6th, and 7th library buildings might get me to..... no, gotta see it out. Connie Connie Jo Ozinga, Director cjo@elkhart.lib.in.us (574)522-3333 www.elkhart.lib.in.us Elkhart Public Library Elkhart, IN 46516 The Elkhart Public Library provides access to resources which inform, educate, enlighten and entertain our diverse community.....Books are just the beginning. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060505/88e464f7/attachment.htm From pm2it at hotmail.com Fri May 5 10:53:39 2006 From: pm2it at hotmail.com (Peter Tuite) Date: Fri May 5 10:53:47 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why be a librarian? Message-ID: The big appeal for me was spending all my time around books and computers. I feel fortunate to work in a field where my primary responsibility is to provide people with access to things that I am interested in myself. I spent a lot of my free time as a adult in libraries, feeling like a kid in a candy store. Even as an employee, I feel a sense of anticipation when I head for the stacks during my lunch hour. From Lhoffman at acpl.lib.in.us Fri May 5 12:05:28 2006 From: Lhoffman at acpl.lib.in.us (Lynn Hoffman) Date: Fri May 5 12:08:50 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Publib Digest, Vol 14, Issue 5 Message-ID: I will be away from the library from until Monday, May 15. Rest assured I will answer your email when I return. From annbaker280 at yahoo.com Fri May 5 13:30:07 2006 From: annbaker280 at yahoo.com (Ann L) Date: Fri May 5 13:45:48 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Why a librarian? In-Reply-To: <20060505160007.55A7C189AE5@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: <20060505173007.25627.qmail@web32504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm a librarian because I always just knew that I'd be a librarian or a teacher. I set up "summer school" for a couple of the neighbor kids when I was younger, and of course had my own date due stamp and slip for my books so I could circulate my books to friends. My family always loved going to the library; my parents were and still are avid library users and they always took us along. My brothers and I were allowed to check out whatever we wanted, and it wasn't unusual for me to walk out with a huge stack of Stephen King and Dean Koontz books. My first degree was a BA in English, with teaching certification. When I was in my capstone class, we were learning about censorship, and our instructor told us about ALA's stance on it. I was very impressed by the pluckiness of librarians and their quest to make information available to everyone. I thought it might be an interesting job, but I didn't know a whole lot about it at the time. After my undergrad, I pursued some teaching job leads but didn't really turn up anything. My aunt was working as a page in the library, and had mentioned how she enjoyed her work. I looked up more information about librarianship and the degree, and started library school two semesters after I finished my undergrad. I've never looked back since. I love librarianship because I can still use my teaching skills (i.e. conducting group or one-on-one bibliographic instruction), and I can still help kids and teenagers when I work on the reference desk. I also found a passion in grad school--cataloging, of all things! :) I had always been interested in computers and programming, but there was no way that I could do the math that would be required for a BS in computer programming. Then, I found cataloging, which is like the Liberal Arts version of computer programming. I love analyzing information and "sticking it in the correct slots," and the thought processes that accompany cataloging. By the way: librarians, PLEASE be very aware of how you treat patrons! When I was in grade school, I returned a book late and the librarian was really mean about it. I didn't want to check out books after that, and it was a long time before I wasn't so gun-shy about the library! Ann L. Langlois, BA, MLIS --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1?/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That and the fact that the challenges differ from and for me are more energizing than those I encountered in other forms of management. Oh, and of course being surrounded by books, interesting patrons and a first rate staff and board are great incentives to stay the course! Bob Farwell, Acting Director The Otis Library, Norwich Connecticut 06360 From 4carrs at verizon.net Fri May 5 14:56:44 2006 From: 4carrs at verizon.net (David & Lisa) Date: Fri May 5 14:57:00 2006 Subject: [Publib] Seymour Library Director Position Message-ID: <000e01c67075$a862ce50$6401a8c0@dimension450> The position of Library Director for Seymour Public Library District (Auburn NY) is now posted on the Cayuga County Civil Service website at http://www.co.cayuga.ny.us/civilservice/LibraryDirectorAd06.html Please check out our website at www.seymourlibrary.org for more information. Interested individuals should send a cover letter (email contact information required), a resume and three current references with contact information to Search Committee, Seymour Library, 176 Genesee St., Auburn, NY 13021. The Seymour Public Library District is an equal opportunity employer. Lisa Carr Reference Librarian Seymour Library 176 Genesee St. Auburn, NY 13021 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060505/f6e39e02/attachment.htm From stephenk at pascolibraries.org Fri May 5 15:02:36 2006 From: stephenk at pascolibraries.org (Stephen Kershner) Date: Fri May 5 15:02:41 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? Message-ID: <200605051502.AA515637352@mail.pascolibraries.org> Don't debate it. Do it! For librarians and those considering careers in libraries, come have fun in the sun! Florida Career Opportunities For your place in the sun, consider Pasco County, Florida -- one of the Top 10 Fastest Growing Counties in the Nation. Located on ?Florida?s Nature Coast? to the north of Tampa and St. Petersburg, Pasco County is emerging from a pastoral cattle ranching and Gulf of Mexico retirement area to a vibrant county of planned communities and family neighborhoods. Enjoy the advantages of metropolitan Tampa-St. Petersburg while living in a choice of communities from the Gulf Coast shores to the rolling hills in east Pasco that offer country living and recreation. The Pasco County Library System is growing with the county offering new and expanded branch libraries opening in 2007, powered by the latest library technologies. Exciting new career opportunities for middle management, entry level librarians and support staff will be available. A compensation system review is currently being conducted to offer competitive salaries. Visit our website at www.pascolibraries.org to check out the Personnel Department Online Job Application Web site: http://agency.governmentjobs.com/pasco/default.cfm to discover specific library job opportunities. Don?t come to Florida to retire -- come to Florida to work and play in the Sunshine State?s Pasco County! -- Stephen A. Kershner Assistant Libraries Director for Public Services Pasco County Library System 8012 Library Road Hudson, FL 34667 O: 727-861-3020 or 1-800-368-2411, x 3020 F: 727-861-3025 Email: stephenk@pascolibraries.org www.pascolibraries.org To Halcyon Days -- From vmartita at gmail.com Fri May 5 16:17:15 2006 From: vmartita at gmail.com (Vanessa Martinez) Date: Fri May 5 16:17:19 2006 Subject: [Publib] assessments Message-ID: <3c26823b0605051317m1b2bf2b9q6744aa2748dd996@mail.gmail.com> I'm new at my library & just graduated this year. What is the usual process for raises & promotions in City Libraries - in Ca.? It seems a very long process here by many people. Who ordinarily makes the final decisions for the Library personnel? Vanessa Martinez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060505/d8e6a021/attachment.htm From hon_chica at yahoo.com Fri May 5 17:33:07 2006 From: hon_chica at yahoo.com (Jen) Date: Fri May 5 17:33:10 2006 Subject: [Publib] Addressing current and hot topics Message-ID: <20060505213307.86027.qmail@web35110.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My library is investigating ways to better respond to current and hot topics and titles in our programming, collections and marketing. We would like to develop mechanisms to alert the appropriate staff when something is a hot topic in the nation and in our community. We'd like to interview libraries that have such systems in place and that respond quickly and effectively to current topics. Does anyone know of a library that does this particularly well (could be yours!)? Thanks, Jen Maney Tucson-Pima Public Library jen.maney@tucsonaz.gov --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2?/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060505/823ff4a6/attachment.htm From TDillie at gcpl.lib.oh.us Fri May 5 17:51:51 2006 From: TDillie at gcpl.lib.oh.us (Dillie, Thomas) Date: Fri May 5 17:47:22 2006 Subject: [Publib] IM at the reference desk Message-ID: <7C10821B2302D54FABBD648C6C50DF83010462EB@mail.gcpl.lib.oh.us> Here at GCPL we are about to add IM as method for customers to use to contact the library; the reference staff at one of the three large branches will be responsible for handing IM using Trillian on their desk PCs. Reference staff at all three branches view this project with some trepidation and would like more information about what other libraries are doing. So here's your chance to relate your own, true-life, IM adventures by answering the questions below. If you reply to me directly, I'll compile the results and post back to the list. 1. Are you offering IM as a way to contact your Library? If so, what department is responsible for messaging and how frequently do you offer the service, i.e. all the hours the library is open, or some shorter period of time? 2. How much preparation did you do before deciding to offer IM, and what kind of preparation was it? 3. How much activity do you see on your IM service, and how are people using it, i.e. know item questions, general queries, undefined chattiness, etc? 4. What was your intention in offering IM to the world at large, and how much has your experience matched or deviated from your expectations and hopes? 5. How long have you offered IM and did you have to change planned staffing or procedures in response to real-life events after began offering the service? 6. If you thought about IM and decided not to try it right now, why not? If you offered it and then changed your mind, why? 7. Anything else you'd like to mention. Thanks for you time, Tom Dillie, Assistant Director Greene County Public Library 76 E. Market St. PO Box 520 Xenia OH 45385 937-376-2995, ext. 204 tdillie@gcpl.lib.oh.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060505/ab4c79cc/attachment.htm From suekamm at mindspring.com Fri May 5 17:49:30 2006 From: suekamm at mindspring.com (Sue Kamm) Date: Fri May 5 17:49:33 2006 Subject: [Publib] assessments Message-ID: <30184668.1146865770610.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060505/6f9f89eb/attachment.htm From dale.mcneill at gmail.com Fri May 5 18:10:08 2006 From: dale.mcneill at gmail.com (Dale McNeill) Date: Fri May 5 18:10:11 2006 Subject: [Publib] assessments In-Reply-To: <30184668.1146865770610.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <30184668.1146865770610.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <69cd9c750605051510l4d5c855dm9c7160ec9e7cdf81@mail.gmail.com> If the library is part of a larger government (city, county) this is excellent advice. You should also ask whether there is a difference between current practice and the written documents. Often, in non-union environments, the practice and the written policy are miles apart. Dale On 5/5/06, Sue Kamm wrote: > > You don't say if you're in California or Canada. > > If you're in California, yhe short answer to your question is: It > depends. Promotions and/or raises in public libraries may be governed by > civil service rules, statutes, and/or collective bargaining agreements. > Here are some questions to ask either your colleagues or your personnel > office: > > - When is an open position posted for applicants? If the position > exists, must the appointing authority wait until the last day the incumbent > is on the payroll before seeking to fill it? (This can take > for-bloody-ever. Say a worker is on disability. S/he may decide to retire, > or the employer can no longer hold the position open. The "vacancy" - that > is, a person occupying the position and doing the work - may drag on for > years.) > - Are positions in your jurisdiction frozen? Local governments in > particular seek to balance their budgets by not allowing agencies to hire a > replacement if a worker leaves. (In such cases, many library adminstrators > and/or trustees seek to maintain a certain level of service, such as hours > open to the public, with fewer staff. The result may be plummeting morale > and/or worker burnout, which means more people leave .... You can see where > this is going.) > - Are positions open or promotional? If the former, the agency may > be required to advertise the vacancy to the immediate world before beginning > the hiring process. A promotional position is limited to people already > working at the library. For promotions, candidates usually must have > certain prerequisites, such as experience. > - What is the civil service process at your institution? Are > candidates required to take both a written and oral examinations? If a > written test is required, does the candidate have to have a certain score in > order to sit for the oral? How much does each part of an exam count? (Read > the job specificastion and notice carefully.) > > Raises are a different matter. Salaries may be determined in negotiations > with a bargaining unit. Whether there are raises to begin with will depend > on the economy in your jurisdiction. If your city, county, or library > distrct must depend on one tax, for example, property taxes, for its > revenue, and property values have declined or people have moved out, there > may not be a lot of money to spend on staff (and library materials). It's a > sad fact that in cities or counties that provide their own police and fire > departments (there are areas which contract with a larger jurisdiction for > public safety; Inglewood, for example, contracts with the County of Los > Angeles for fire protection), those departments will probably get the lion's > share of the budget. Of course, if you don't have a collective bargaining > agent, or the laws of your state or locality prohibit public employees from > bargaining collectively, these comments may not apply. > > As far as who makes the decisions: Again, it depends. In some areas. the > civil service rules spell out who has the authority to hire, fire, or > implement raises. The hiring and promotion buck will probably stop with the > library director, although s/he may accept the recommendation of a > candidate's proposed supervisor. New hires and raises may need to be > approved by whoever holds the purse strings - city council, board of > supervisors, library trustees. > > In any event, the policies and procedures are doubtless written. As your > personnel office for a copy. > > YMMV. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanessa Martinez > Sent: May 5, 2006 4:17 PM > To: publib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Publib] assessments > > I'm new at my library & just graduated this year. What is the usual > process for raises & promotions in City Libraries - in Ca.? It seems a > very long process here by many people. Who ordinarily makes the final > decisions for the Library personnel? > Vanessa Martinez > > > > Your friendly CyberGoddess and Councilor-at-large, > Sue Kamm > Inglewood/Los Angeles, CA > Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000 > email: suekamm [at] mindspring.com > When you absolutely, positively HAVE to know, ASK A LIBRARIAN! > > > _______________________________________________ > Publib mailing list > Publib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060505/04f1a94d/attachment.htm From diedrec at charter.net Fri May 5 18:10:11 2006 From: diedrec at charter.net (Diedre Conkling) Date: Fri May 5 18:10:14 2006 Subject: [Publib] IM at the reference desk Message-ID: <32521149.1146867011009.JavaMail.root@fepweb07> I love responding to questions when I really have no response to the question. At the recent Oregon Library Association conference I attended a session that included information about using IM at the reference desk. I might go look at my notes and see if there is anything that would be useful for you. What I wanted to say is that it finally sunk into my weak brain that the reference staff in our consortium ought to use IM to communicate with each other and get help from each other with patron questions. All of the libraries in the consortium are smallish, semi-rural libraries, some way smaller than others. Several have good reference services. The others try very hard but don't have the staffing and resources to do more. We are a consortium of public and community college libraries so there are different resources available and different expertise in each library. We do have access to the statewide QuestionPoint service, which works very well. However, I think this other level of local communication between libraries would also be good. I haven't dared suggest it yet to the consortium but now the ones on this list know that this thought is lurking in my head. -- Diedre Conkling Lincoln County Library District P.O. Box 2027, Newport, OR 97365 Phone & Fax: 541-265-3066 http://lcld.library-blogs.net/ Work: diedre@beachbooks.org Home: diedrec@charter.net ---- "Dillie wrote: ============= Here at GCPL we are about to add IM as method for customers to use to contact the library; the reference staff at one of the three large branches will be responsible for handing IM using Trillian on their desk PCs. Reference staff at all three branches view this project with some trepidation and would like more information about what other libraries are doing. So here's your chance to relate your own, true-life, IM adventures by answering the questions below. If you reply to me directly, I'll compile the results and post back to the list. 1. Are you offering IM as a way to contact your Library? If so, what department is responsible for messaging and how frequently do you offer the service, i.e. all the hours the library is open, or some shorter period of time? 2. How much preparation did you do before deciding to offer IM, and what kind of preparation was it? 3. How much activity do you see on your IM service, and how are people using it, i.e. know item questions, general queries, undefined chattiness, etc? 4. What was your intention in offering IM to the world at large, and how much has your experience matched or deviated from your expectations and hopes? 5. How long have you offered IM and did you have to change planned staffing or procedures in response to real-life events after began offering the service? 6. If you thought about IM and decided not to try it right now, why not? If you offered it and then changed your mind, why? 7. Anything else you'd like to mention. Thanks for you time, Tom Dillie, Assistant Director Greene County Public Library 76 E. Market St. PO Box 520 Xenia OH 45385 937-376-2995, ext. 204 tdillie@gcpl.lib.oh.us From diedrec at charter.net Fri May 5 18:28:31 2006 From: diedrec at charter.net (Diedre Conkling) Date: Fri May 5 18:28:34 2006 Subject: [Publib] assessments Message-ID: <15788274.1146868111358.JavaMail.root@fepweb07> Hey, we don't have a union and still seem to be able to follow our written policy. ;-) In our library district I make recommendations to the District Board about salaries and salary structure every year during the budget process. The Budget Committee and the District Board have to approve the budget. So, I guess this can be a long process since it only happens once a year for everyone and is not dealt with throughout the year on an individual basis. Of course, once a salary schedule is set then I would follow it on that individual basis, following our policies, and this part does not have to go to the Board level. Oh, this is also a process that depends on the availability of funds to make salary increases. This has been where the challenge is in providing good salaries. -- Diedre Conkling Lincoln County Library District P.O. Box 2027, Newport, OR 97365 Phone & Fax: 541-265-3066 http://lcld.library-blogs.net/ Work: diedre@beachbooks.org Home: diedrec@charter.net ---- Dale McNeill wrote: ============= If the library is part of a larger government (city, county) this is excellent advice. You should also ask whether there is a difference between current practice and the written documents. Often, in non-union environments, the practice and the written policy are miles apart. Dale On 5/5/06, Sue Kamm wrote: > > You don't say if you're in California or Canada. > > If you're in California, yhe short answer to your question is: It > depends. Promotions and/or raises in public libraries may be governed by > civil service rules, statutes, and/or collective bargaining agreements. > Here are some questions to ask either your colleagues or your personnel > office: > > - When is an open position posted for applicants? If the position > exists, must the appointing authority wait until the last day the incumbent > is on the payroll before seeking to fill it? (This can take > for-bloody-ever. Say a worker is on disability. S/he may decide to retire, > or the employer can no longer hold the position open. The "vacancy" - that > is, a person occupying the position and doing the work - may drag on for > years.) > - Are positions in your jurisdiction frozen? Local governments in > particular seek to balance their budgets by not allowing agencies to hire a > replacement if a worker leaves. (In such cases, many library adminstrators > and/or trustees seek to maintain a certain level of service, such as hours > open to the public, with fewer staff. The result may be plummeting morale > and/or worker burnout, which means more people leave .... You can see where > this is going.) > - Are positions open or promotional? If the former, the agency may > be required to advertise the vacancy to the immediate world before beginning > the hiring process. A promotional position is limited to people already > working at the library. For promotions, candidates usually must have > certain prerequisites, such as experience. > - What is the civil service process at your institution? Are > candidates required to take both a written and oral examinations? If a > written test is required, does the candidate have to have a certain score in > order to sit for the oral? How much does each part of an exam count? (Read > the job specificastion and notice carefully.) > > Raises are a different matter. Salaries may be determined in negotiations > with a bargaining unit. Whether there are raises to begin with will depend > on the economy in your jurisdiction. If your city, county, or library > distrct must depend on one tax, for example, property taxes, for its > revenue, and property values have declined or people have moved out, there > may not be a lot of money to spend on staff (and library materials). It's a > sad fact that in cities or counties that provide their own police and fire > departments (there are areas which contract with a larger jurisdiction for > public safety; Inglewood, for example, contracts with the County of Los > Angeles for fire protection), those departments will probably get the lion's > share of the budget. Of course, if you don't have a collective bargaining > agent, or the laws of your state or locality prohibit public employees from > bargaining collectively, these comments may not apply. > > As far as who makes the decisions: Again, it depends. In some areas. the > civil service rules spell out who has the authority to hire, fire, or > implement raises. The hiring and promotion buck will probably stop with the > library director, although s/he may accept the recommendation of a > candidate's proposed supervisor. New hires and raises may need to be > approved by whoever holds the purse strings - city council, board of > supervisors, library trustees. > > In any event, the policies and procedures are doubtless written. As your > personnel office for a copy. > > YMMV. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanessa Martinez > Sent: May 5, 2006 4:17 PM > To: publib@webjunction.org > Subject: [Publib] assessments > > I'm new at my library & just graduated this year. What is the usual > process for raises & promotions in City Libraries - in Ca.? It seems a > very long process here by many people. Who ordinarily makes the final > decisions for the Library personnel? > Vanessa Martinez > > > > Your friendly CyberGoddess and Councilor-at-large, > Sue Kamm > Inglewood/Los Angeles, CA > Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000 > email: suekamm [at] mindspring.com > When you absolutely, positively HAVE to know, ASK A LIBRARIAN! > > > _______________________________________________ > Publib mailing list > Publib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > > > From jworth at jefferson.lib.co.us Fri May 5 18:43:05 2006 From: jworth at jefferson.lib.co.us (Jenny Worth) Date: Fri May 5 18:43:08 2006 Subject: [Publib] Jefferson County Public Library Job Announcement Message-ID: <63784DE0B529BB409BB12CD1FFC0F9BD01AF714E@amber3.jeffco-lib.org> POSITION: Extension Services Manager #26-138 Jefferson County Public Library (Lakewood, Colorado), an innovative, technologically advanced library, is seeking an Extension Services Manager to direct the day-to-day operations of JCPL's specialized services and community libraries. Located between the city of Denver and the foothills of the Rocky Mountains, the Jefferson County Public Library serves a population of 530,000 and has an operating budget of $26 million. The library is in the process of purchasing a new bookmobile, opening a new library, renovating one of the community libraries (Wheat Ridge) and implementing RFID. We are looking for an individual to lead the Extension Services team who has a strong interest in community building, a background in developing and providing programs and services to targeted groups within a population and a deep commitment to quality customer service. If you hope to be actively involved in the community, if you desire to participate in the planning, development and implementation of library programs and services and if you seek professional growth opportunities such as training and conference attendance, Jefferson County Public Library's Extension Services Manager position will be of interest to you. APPLICATION DEADLINE: 6/1/06 QUALIFICATIONS: Requires a master's degree in Library Science and 3 years of supervisory experience in a library. Must be able to work some evenings, weekends and minor holidays. DUTIES: Provides overall supervision and direction of the Conifer (combined public/high school facility), Edgewater and Wheat Ridge Libraries, the bookmobile, the Traveling Children's Library, homebound and nursing home services. This position serves as the library's liaison to the jail and various community groups. Participates in the Public Services Management Team (PSMT); chairs and directs Extension Services unit head meetings; represents Extension interests to Administration and shares Administration information with Extension units. Conducts usage studies and analyzes statistical reports; performs research and designs measurement tools; responds to library objectives and assures responsible use of library funds. Develops concepts and practices to improve the quality, productivity and variety of library services; tests and evaluates new products and marketing concepts. Represents the library at various city and community meetings and functions. Reports to the Associate Director for Public Services. SALARY: $4,275.09 per month BENEFITS: Excellent benefits package including health, dental, and retirement. Vacation, holiday, sick leave, and personal days. Training and conference attendance opportunities. APPLY: A current resume and Jefferson County application must be completed along with a list of 3 references. Applications are available by fax (303) 271-8411 or online at http://jefferson.lib.co.us/jobs/index.html. Return faxed applications to Jefferson County Human Resources Dept. 800 Jefferson Pkwy, Ste.140, Golden CO 80401; 303-271-8400. Jefferson County Public Library makes employment decisions without regard to an individual's race, color, religion, creed, sex, age, national origin or disability. Jennifer Worth, CPP, SPHR Administrative Services Analyst Jefferson County Public Library 10200 W. 20th Ave. Lakewood, CO 80215 303-275-2215 Fax 303-275-2227 jworth@jefferson.lib.co.us Find us on the web at http://jefferson.lib.co.us From gflagg at ala.org Fri May 5 19:02:59 2006 From: gflagg at ala.org (Gordon Flagg) Date: Fri May 5 19:03:22 2006 Subject: [Publib] Breaking News, May 5 American Libraries Online Message-ID: Breaking News, May 5 American Libraries Online ; > OCLC and RLG Plan to Combine Operations > Net Neutrality Fight Heats Up in Congress > House Subcommittee Moves to Block Smithsonian-Showtime Deal > First Lady's Hurricane Fund Makes First School Library Grants > FBI Director Questioned on Patriot Act > Basement Fire Damages University of New Mexico Collection > Brandeis Students Protest Removal of Palestinian Art > Salinas Moves Ahead with Plan to Restore Library Hours > Protests Save Indiana University Library Branch American Libraries now offers an RSS feed on its website. If you have a news aggregator, you can subscribe and have the headlines come to you. See the RSS icon on any AL Online web page; ?About RSS Feeds? helps explain the process. ALA members can search American Libraries back issues through 2003 using the ebrary platform, which transforms printed pages into a dynamic database. Link to it on the AL Online website by clicking on "archive" or the cover image at the top ;. American Libraries' website also features the latest ?Internet Librarian? by Joseph Janes; ?Technically Speaking" by Andrew Pace; AL's "Career Leads" job ads; listings of conferences, continuing-education courses, exhibitions, and other events from AL's "Datebook"; and Tables of Contents for the current year. Do you have a comment to make about anything appearing in American Libraries? The editors encourage signed email letters on recent content or matters of general interest to the library profession in the Reader Forum section. Send 250 words or less to americanlibraries@ala.org. Gordon Flagg Managing editor American Libraries 50 E. Huron St. Chicago, IL 60611 800/545-2433 ext 4213 From TDillie at gcpl.lib.oh.us Fri May 5 19:56:55 2006 From: TDillie at gcpl.lib.oh.us (Dillie, Thomas) Date: Fri May 5 19:52:24 2006 Subject: [Publib] IM at the reference desk Message-ID: <7C10821B2302D54FABBD648C6C50DF830124A7A8@mail.gcpl.lib.oh.us> Follow-up information for my original questions. GCPL does participate it Know-It-Now, Ohio's online reference servce; staff here cover a shift once a week. What we're talking about is adding IM locally as a means of contacting the library as described down below Diedre's reply. Just thought I should clarify. By the way, we have talked about using IM internally as a way for staff to communicate between branches, as a supplement to e-mail. Haven't done anything about this yet. Tom Dillie, Assistant Director Greene County Public Library 76 E. Market St. PO Box 520 Xenia OH 45385 937-376-2995, ext. 204 tdillie@gcpl.lib.oh.us -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Diedre Conkling Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 5:10 PM To: PUBLIB Subject: Re: [Publib] IM at the reference desk I love responding to questions when I really have no response to the question. At the recent Oregon Library Association conference I attended a session that included information about using IM at the reference desk. I might go look at my notes and see if there is anything that would be useful for you. What I wanted to say is that it finally sunk into my weak brain that the reference staff in our consortium ought to use IM to communicate with each other and get help from each other with patron questions. All of the libraries in the consortium are smallish, semi-rural libraries, some way smaller than others. Several have good reference services. The others try very hard but don't have the staffing and resources to do more. We are a consortium of public and community college libraries so there are different resources available and different expertise in each library. We do have access to the statewide QuestionPoint service, which works very well. However, I think this other level of local communication between libraries would also be good. I haven't dared suggest it yet to the consortium but now the ones on this list know that this thought is lurking in my head. -- Diedre Conkling Lincoln County Library District P.O. Box 2027, Newport, OR 97365 Phone & Fax: 541-265-3066 http://lcld.library-blogs.net/ Work: diedre@beachbooks.org Home: diedrec@charter.net ---- "Dillie wrote: ============= Here at GCPL we are about to add IM as method for customers to use to contact the library; the reference staff at one of the three large branches will be responsible for handing IM using Trillian on their desk PCs. Reference staff at all three branches view this project with some trepidation and would like more information about what other libraries are doing. So here's your chance to relate your own, true-life, IM adventures by answering the questions below. If you reply to me directly, I'll compile the results and post back to the list. 1. Are you offering IM as a way to contact your Library? If so, what department is responsible for messaging and how frequently do you offer the service, i.e. all the hours the library is open, or some shorter period of time? 2. How much preparation did you do before deciding to offer IM, and what kind of preparation was it? 3. How much activity do you see on your IM service, and how are people using it, i.e. know item questions, general queries, undefined chattiness, etc? 4. What was your intention in offering IM to the world at large, and how much has your experience matched or deviated from your expectations and hopes? 5. How long have you offered IM and did you have to change planned staffing or procedures in response to real-life events after began offering the service? 6. If you thought about IM and decided not to try it right now, why not? If you offered it and then changed your mind, why? 7. Anything else you'd like to mention. Thanks for you time, Tom Dillie, Assistant Director Greene County Public Library 76 E. Market St. PO Box 520 Xenia OH 45385 937-376-2995, ext. 204 tdillie@gcpl.lib.oh.us _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org Fri May 5 20:02:36 2006 From: MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org (Mary J. Soucie) Date: Fri May 5 20:03:17 2006 Subject: [Publib] IM at the reference desk Message-ID: <35A3685E8502B5428734A99EDA6E5E5120D38D@server.wilmingtonlibrary.org> We are not currently using IM at our reference desk. But we have implemented it for staff to use for internal communication. We are all in one building and use the IM daily. It makes it easier for staff on our public services desk to communicate without being overheard by or bothering patrons. We all signed up for a Yahoo IM account and it has worked great for us. Mary Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org From vnestin at bellsouth.net Fri May 5 22:17:28 2006 From: vnestin at bellsouth.net (Vicki Nesting) Date: Fri May 5 22:18:53 2006 Subject: [Publib] Job Opening - St. Charles Parish Public Library Message-ID: <445C0738.5060203@bellsouth.net> Regional Branch Librarian St. Charles Parish Public Library Destrehan, Louisiana Description: Oversees and manages the daily operation of a 12,000 s.f. regional branch library. Supervises and trains branch staff of 12 (FTE 7.0). Coordinates and develops branch programs and exhibits. Provides reference and readers advisory services. Maintains branch collections. Participates in systemwide collection development. Note: schedule will include some evening and weekend hours. Qualifications: ALA accredited Master's degree. Relevant experience in branch librarianship (two years is desirable). Demonstrated skills in supervision and training. Excellent communication and problem-solving skills. Strong computer skills. Salary: Hiring range $39,901 ? 42,343. Benefits package includes vacation, holidays, sick leave, health insurance, retirement. St. Charles Parish is a mix of small towns and rural areas adjacent to the New Orleans metropolitan area (25 miles west of downtown New Orleans) with a population of approximately 50,000. To apply send resume and references to: Mary desBordes, Director St. Charles Parish Library P.O. Box 949 Luling, LA 70070 Applications will be accepted until the position is filled. We regret that we are unable to reimburse applicants for expenses incurred during the application and/or interview process. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vicki Nesting, MLIS Assistant Director St. Charles Parish Library P.O. Box 949 Luling, Louisiana 70070 vnestin@bellsouth.net vnesting@stcharles.lib.la.us ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From rspeer at ci.lewiston.me.us Sat May 6 12:07:37 2006 From: rspeer at ci.lewiston.me.us (Rick Speer) Date: Sat May 6 12:08:09 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Publib Digest, Vol 14, Issue 6 (Out of Office reply) Message-ID: I will be out of the Library from May 8 through May 21, returning on Monday, March 27. I will respond to your message ASAP upon my return. If you need staff support during this period, please contact Deputy Director Karen Jones (784-0135, ext 211 or kjones@ci.lewiston.me.us) Rick Speer From lwallace at grotonpl.org Sat May 6 10:28:09 2006 From: lwallace at grotonpl.org (Linda Wallace) Date: Sat May 6 13:39:52 2006 Subject: [Publib] Dics repair Message-ID: <002d01c67119$4cc15ea0$6802000a@GTNCIRCWORK> We purchased the VenMill machine and are very pleased with it. We've only had for a short time, but find that it saves about 90% of replacements we would have to buy. We feel it will pay for it self in less than a year by reducing our disk replacement costs. Linda Wallace Circ. Supervisor Groton Public Library Groton CT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060506/f43ea821/attachment.htm From kgs at bluehighways.com Sat May 6 14:26:22 2006 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Sat May 6 14:26:33 2006 Subject: [Publib] IM at the reference desk In-Reply-To: <32521149.1146867011009.JavaMail.root@fepweb07> Message-ID: <002701c6713a$94c3a750$6401a8c0@venus> > What I wanted to say is that it finally sunk into my weak brain that the > reference staff in our consortium ought to use IM to communicate with each > other and get help from each other with patron questions. All of the > libraries in the consortium are smallish, semi-rural libraries, some way > smaller than others. Several have good reference services. The others > try very hard but don't have the staffing and resources to do more. We > are a consortium of public and community college libraries so there are > different resources available and different expertise in each library. We > do have access to the statewide QuestionPoint service, which works very > well. However, I think this other level of local communication between > libraries would also be good. We use IM where I work. We're all distributed. Phoning is ok but IM offers several advantages: It's less absorbing and intrusive than the phone. You can do other things while you IM. You can even (if you want) juggle multiple IMs at once. It's sort of real-time, meaning it eliminates the ping-pong effect of email. It's much, much easier to share any electronic citation, such as a URL, through IM versus phone. IM time is stretchier than phone time. Recently I was the patron on an IM session with a library. They went off to find something. We kept our IM window open and I did other stuff. A few minutes later, they trotted back with a citation I needed. Neither of us felt inconvenienced. IM can provide transcripts of what you IM'd (if you have Google Desktop installed, you can even search your desktop for these sessions without saving them). IM (compared to some VR software) rarely crashes or hangs. If you need to step away for more than a minute, an "away" message handles this very nicely, without taking the person into the voicemail zone. As Mary noted, it's quiet. Additionally, your users may have IM, and (if they know about it) may appreciate being able to reach you that way. I get a couple of IMs a day from our users (and we don't even have reference services). I also IM colleagues, family, friends, etc. A quick IM from a family member is less disruptive to my workflow than a phone call, or even worse, a voice mail that must be returned. It's actually pretty easy to politely excuse yourself on an IM that seems to be getting chatty. "Oops, phone ringing" works pretty well. Generally libraries don't get flooded with IM queries when they begin offering IM, in case that's the concern... IM is so painless, cheap, and useful that I'm surprised more libraries don't offer it at least among staff. Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com AIM/Skype: liichief Yahoo: im4lii From weissman at main.morris.org Sat May 6 14:32:24 2006 From: weissman at main.morris.org (Sara Weissman) Date: Sat May 6 14:31:14 2006 Subject: [Publib] re: disc repair Message-ID: <32306.192.168.54.254.1146940344.squirrel@192.168.54.254> 19. Disc repair: choice of machinery Laredo Public Library has an RTI EcoSenior. We've had it in operation since about November 2005. There are a few secrets that you don't learn from the brochures. There are different sized pads for double sided discs. If you use the regularly sized pads you will wipe off all the information on the disc. You REALLY need to prime the machine, but not necessarily daily. I have found the RTI staff is extremely helpful, and very friendly. Anne Seddelmeyer Library II, Technical Services Laredo Public Library 1120 E. Calton Rd. Laredo, TX 78041 (956) 795-2400 ext. 2249 anne@laredolibrary.org From weissman at main.morris.org Sat May 6 14:33:39 2006 From: weissman at main.morris.org (Sara Weissman) Date: Sat May 6 14:32:27 2006 Subject: [Publib] SOLINET/binding Message-ID: <32889.192.168.54.254.1146940419.squirrel@192.168.54.254> SOLINET, Inc., the Southeastern Library Network, is pleased to announce that there are still seats available in the following upcoming Preservation class (please excuse cross-posting):=20 COMMERICAL LIBRARY BINDING Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2006 Place and Time: South Carolina State Library, Columbia, SC, 9 am to 4 pm Price: $145.00 for SOLINET members, $185.00 for non-members; early bird discounts and late fees apply. This one-day class provides the tools needed to make appropriate decisions that balance preservation goals and financial realities. The lecture will cover book structure and modern book manufacturing methods; an overview of bindery operations, with a look at leaf attachment methods; discussion of materials and technical terms used by binders; guidelines for cost-effectively upgrading your binding program; and an overview of contracts and vendor relations. There will be a decision-making practicum using sample materials, a 1989 video - Library Binding: A Shared Responsibility, A Collaborative Effort - developed by a team of librarians and binders, and an exhibit of binding materials and methods. The class is designed for heads of technical services, serials, and/or binding department and bindery clerks and others in the bindery prep unit. =20 For more information or to register, contact Vanessa Richardson at 1-800-999-8558, vanessa_richardson@solinet.net or visit our website at http://www.solinet.net for full descriptions and online registration. This class is funded in part by a grant from the National Endowment for the Humanities, Division of Preservation and Access. Any registrant within the host state qualifies for the member rate. From CRabbitt at bellinghamma.org Sat May 6 14:58:13 2006 From: CRabbitt at bellinghamma.org (Rabbitt, Charlotte) Date: Sat May 6 14:58:17 2006 Subject: [Publib] RE: Publib Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 Message-ID: <48791B50830FFE46846AA0BCD0852FFE84C1B8@srv-mail01.bellinghamma.org> We have weeded our children's collection for the first time in years. Our three elementary school librarians looked through the hundreds of books and took what they could use in their libraries. Today the Friends of the Library had their yearly book sale and we have loads of picture books and juvenile fiction - most of it worn. Is there any need out there for these books? Obviously, the Friends will not be able to pay hundreds of dollars to ship or freight them anywhere. Any ideas for me? Charlotte Rabbitt Director Bellingham Public Library Bellingham, MA 02019 From HardestyReference.26971593 at bloglines.com Sat May 6 15:37:37 2006 From: HardestyReference.26971593 at bloglines.com (HardestyReference.26971593@bloglines.com) Date: Sat May 6 15:37:41 2006 Subject: [Publib] RE: Publib Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 Message-ID: <1146944257.1362740351.10319.sendItem@bloglines.com> --- Rabbitt wrote: We have weeded our children's collection for the first time in years. Our three elementary school librarians looked through the hundreds of books and took what they could use in their libraries. Today the Friends of the Library had their yearly book sale and we have loads of picture books and juvenile fiction - most of it worn. > > Is there any need out there for these books? Obviously, the Friends will not be able to pay hundreds of dollars to ship or freight them anywhere. Any ideas for me? In most communities there are women's shelters and homeless shelters that are in need of reading material for kids. I'd suggest calling around and seeing what they might need. Also, you might try hospital emergency rooms, clinics, and other places where families might be waiting around with kids in need of diversion. From rkingcade at bcgov.net Sat May 6 15:39:50 2006 From: rkingcade at bcgov.net (Rachel Kingcade) Date: Sat May 6 15:41:35 2006 Subject: [Publib] RE: Publib Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 References: <1146944257.1362740351.10319.sendItem@bloglines.com> Message-ID: Another great place to donate them would be your local YMCA, as they have day care facilities and also try Boys/Girls Club too as they would LOVE to have such materials. Rachel S. Kingcade, MLIS, Reference Librarian I Beaufort County Library, Beaufort Branch 311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902 843.470.6524 rkingcade@bcgov.net www.bcgov.net/library For Learning ? For Leisure ? For Life ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of HardestyReference.26971593@bloglines.com Sent: Sat 5/6/2006 3:37 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Cc: CRabbitt@bellinghamma.org Subject: Re: [Publib] RE: Publib Digest, Vol 14, Issue 2 --- Rabbitt wrote: We have weeded our children's collection for the first time in years. Our three elementary school librarians looked through the hundreds of books and took what they could use in their libraries. Today the Friends of the Library had their yearly book sale and we have loads of picture books and juvenile fiction - most of it worn. > > Is there any need out there for these books? Obviously, the Friends will not be able to pay hundreds of dollars to ship or freight them anywhere. Any ideas for me? In most communities there are women's shelters and homeless shelters that are in need of reading material for kids. I'd suggest calling around and seeing what they might need. Also, you might try hospital emergency rooms, clinics, and other places where families might be waiting around with kids in need of diversion. _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From cph1776 at yahoo.com Sat May 6 16:43:46 2006 From: cph1776 at yahoo.com (charles hobbs) Date: Sat May 6 16:43:48 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? In-Reply-To: <20060505160008.2BDBF189AE8@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: <20060506204346.84504.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> My earliest memories of something called a "library" was when I would ride (with my family) up and down Crenshaw Blvd (Los Angeles) to go shopping or whatever. Among the usual stores and gas stations along the way was a building with an orange neon sign, "Library". (This was the Hyde Park LAPL branch, which has since been moved to Florence/Van Ness) When I was in first grade, the elementary school I went to had a pretty good sized library; I loved going there during recess and reading, occasionally checking out a book. I only lasted about a few months there, though. I changed schools next year. Nicer place, but it didn't have a library. No problem, about that time me and my sister got library cards at the LAPL branch on Crenshaw (the one with the neon sign). We used that library, mostly, and also the one at Vermont Square. Later on, I got cards at Inglewood and Pasadena libraries as well. I even spent a couple of years in high school working in the school library there (shelving and circ desk were the two tasks I remember most) But after all of this, I never even thought of librarianship as a career. It was off to UCSB engineering school for me. When that didn't pan out, I switched majors to linguistics, which I liked and did well in, but it didn't (at the time) seem to have a lot of job prospects. There was a grad school fair on campus and I looked at both library school and urban planning programs, both at UCLA. (During the past four years I had developed an interest in urban planning issues). In considering both programs, the librarianship program seemed to be a better fit with my academic experience (the urban planning program required a lot of economics classes, which I didn't have). At that point I decided to make information science my career. But I was thinking more along the lines of database management, rather than working in a public library, cataloging books, etc. At the time (late 1987), the UCLA library school program was still heavy on the traditional trio of cataloging, reference, and acquisitions for the first year, and electives and internships for the second. Online and CD-ROM searching were also taught, although the technology of the time was kludgey. (I also worked in the library school computer lab, and helped upgrade a lot of that older equipment and software....when I came there, people were using acoustic modems and TI Silent 700 terminals....when I left there, we had about eight IBM PS/2's and a Novell server!) While still in school, I worked as an intern in the RTD (now MTA) transportation library, and then got a couple of temp agency jobs (OCLC copy cataloging at Downey Public was fun, but then I was assigned to a law firm and the job was just putting paper in binders all day) I finally graduated in March 1990 and started my first "real" job--assistant librarian at an engineering firm in Pasadena. That lasted about a year and a half, then the company laid a lot of people off--myself included. I was unemployed for about a year. My next job was an indexer at a publishing company in Chatsworth. It was mostly data entry and a lot of reading for content; boring and underpaid but I stuck with it for four years. After that, things began to look up. I got a job at a small graduate institute in Encino. This involved just as much (if not more) computer/IT related items as it did traditional librarianship. I was there for a little over a year. >From February 1998 until now, I have been one of the librarians at the Charles R. Drew University in South Central Los Angeles. I've seen amazing changes in this field, from mostly print journals and CD-ROM towers to having everything (databases, journals, maybe even the library management software itself!) on the Internet. And my job responsibilities have not only become more and more computer-related, but have diversified in other ways as well (electronic classrooms and online courses, for example). Who knows what the next 10 years will bring....but it will be interesting! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From phenriksen at neflin.org Sat May 6 18:25:42 2006 From: phenriksen at neflin.org (Phalbe Henriksen) Date: Sat May 6 18:25:45 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why Librarianship? In-Reply-To: <20060506204346.84504.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060505160008.2BDBF189AE8@lists.webjunction.org> <20060506204346.84504.qmail@web53108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Folks, I have resisted sending this message, but I'm going to break down and *just do it!* My first library was on the second floor of city hall. Mother walked the three of us up a huge flight of white marble steps and then to the elevator. I must have thought that stairway went to heaven, because I was very impressed by the marble steps and the rest of the journey to the library. I loved the library, too. Then, in 1951, the library moved to the Wilmington Light Infantry building on Market Street. Again, a marble building with daunting steps. I loved every minute I spend in there, the narrow ("scary") stairway down to the restroom in the basement, the "cold" metal shelving with "warm" books on them, the teen room, the North Carolina History room, the library director, the ladies at the desk. I loved every square inch of it. And that doesn't even *begin* to describe how much I loved the weekly bookmobile service in the summers, when we kids would gather outside at the bookstop and wait for the bookmobile. I listen to all the twaddle today about how libraries need to be warm and welcoming, and have very liberal rules, etc., etc., and I've even bought into the idea, since the new library our architects have designed are just that, but I do wonder if I'd be a librarian today if I hadn't approached those libraries on marble steps! (And would it matter to anyone other than myself??) Those libraries were my gods. Phalbe Henriksen From Backwage at aol.com Sun May 7 10:13:37 2006 From: Backwage at aol.com (Backwage@aol.com) Date: Sun May 7 10:14:00 2006 Subject: [Publib] Money Matters Message-ID: <2c3.79b7de5.318f5a91@aol.com> If you find yourself being too cheerful this Sunday morning, here's something for you to ponder: _Hand to Mouth in the Library_ (http://librarydust.typepad.com/library_dust/2006/05/hand_to_mouth_i.html) . M. McGrorty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060507/a475a4d6/attachment.htm From mls_05_07 at msn.com Sun May 7 10:45:06 2006 From: mls_05_07 at msn.com (Danielle M. Walsh) Date: Sun May 7 10:45:08 2006 Subject: [Publib] Book Selection Room Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 10569 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060507/41d78ac3/attachment.jpg From pshapiro at his.com Sun May 7 12:34:11 2006 From: pshapiro at his.com (Phil Shapiro) Date: Sun May 7 13:43:12 2006 Subject: [Publib] new article - "learning more about google sketchup" Message-ID: <1147019651.445e2183379c1@webmail.his.com> hi publib people - this morning i dashed off a quick article giving pointers to the public about ways they can learn to use google's free sketchup software. http://digg.com/design/Learning_More_About_SketchUp if your public library offers computer trainings, you might want to start thinking about offering classes in sketchup. phil shapiro -- Phil Shapiro pshapiro@his.com http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/pshapiro http://philsrssfeed.blogspot.com http://www.his.com/pshapiro/stories.menu.html "Wisdom starts with wonder." - Socrates "Learning happens through gentleness." From twait at wi.rr.com Sun May 7 13:21:04 2006 From: twait at wi.rr.com (twait@wi.rr.com) Date: Sun May 7 13:43:13 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Money Matters Message-ID: As an imminent graduate from an MLIS program I can honestly say I did not enter into this profession for the money. I think many librarians have similar feelings as teachers, we want to help people, we want to encourage learning, and while larger salaries would be nice, we continue in our chosen field because we genuinely enjoy our jobs. I feel fortunate that I have the potential to get a job that pays more than minimum wage and has health insurance. It is not only library workers who live paycheck to paycheck; poverty and homelessness are rampant in this country. I could go on about the millions who don't have health insurance, the rising costs of education, and the insanity of credit card debt, but I won't. I prefer to comment on the fact that it is a library where this woman goes to work on her art and it is library staff who are trying to help her. Tiffany Wait graduate student From Backwage at aol.com Sun May 7 13:47:53 2006 From: Backwage at aol.com (Backwage@aol.com) Date: Sun May 7 13:48:05 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Money Matters Message-ID: In a message dated 5/7/2006 10:44:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, twait@wi.rr.com writes: As an imminent graduate from an MLIS program I can honestly say I did not enter into this profession for the money. Actually, everybody goes into librarianship for the money. If you think this isn't true, go ahead and do it for free for a month; either that or consider sending a portion of your salary to someone else because you don't really need all of it. Providing good service to the community is a good thing and the object of librarianship, but this isn't the same as joining a religious order. There should be no vow of poverty to be a library worker. M. M. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060507/59053d87/attachment.htm From Louise.Alcorn at wdm-ia.com Sun May 7 16:26:07 2006 From: Louise.Alcorn at wdm-ia.com (Louise Alcorn) Date: Sun May 7 16:26:35 2006 Subject: [Publib] Thank you for your "Wireless Experiences" Message-ID: <9361FF6DA66FD34FB64CD5C6589BFD0C031AA695@citp1mx03.city.wdm.loc> **I hope you will excuse this cross-posted THANK YOU note** Dear Colleagues, I am writing today to thank those of you who so generously provided me with valuable contributions to the book on Wireless Networking I produced for Neal-Schuman, which has just been published. When I took over the writing of this book, I realized that a significant 'value added' component would be real-life experiences from library staff who are already tackling the challenges of implementing wireless in a library environment. I sent out pleas to a number of email lists, and you all responded with generosity, enthusiasm and helpfulness. Thank you, Thank you! This generosity of spirit from my colleagues is one of my favorite aspects of this profession. Again, my very great thanks! Your comments and questions helped me to frame the book, and I hope helped make it useful to folks in the library world. Best regards, Louise Wireless Networking: A How-To-Do-It Manual for Librarians: http://www.neal-schuman.com/db/1/371.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Louise E. Alcorn Reference Technology Librarian West Des Moines Public Library 4000 Mills Civic Pkwy West Des Moines IA 50265 (515) 222-3573 louise.alcorn@wdm-ia.com http://www.wdmlibrary.org From jbsphx at cox.net Sun May 7 23:55:51 2006 From: jbsphx at cox.net (Joe Schallan) Date: Sun May 7 23:56:00 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Why Librarianship? (and a long memoir) Message-ID: <356c19325333f084d32939ae8262e620@cox.net> I've enjoyed the accounts of early interest in the profession -- those who as children set up their own lending libraries. Born to be gatekeepers! Did such children discuss authority files with one another while their peers were playing with Barbies? Or did such children dress their Barbies as librarians?? (Librarian Barbie would be, I suppose, the antithesis of Nancy Pearl Action Figure Librarian, but I think it would be cool to have Librarian Barbie, too.) I loved John Richmond's story of the librarian who cut him some slack and let him check out the age-restricted opera sets. I'm sure that the library restricted these because they were deemed fragile and expensive, but given the hair-raising subject matter of a lot of opera, I could have seen parental objections . . . that is, if a parent had actually been paying attention to the luridness of the opera plots. Did Mrs. Richmond see the Rigoletto set in John's room and think "Oh, that's nice," little suspecting that he had there a tale of lust, kidnapping, date rape, unjust execution, murder, and revenge gone very wrong? In any case, the librarian who let John Richmond take opera sets home was a hero. Who wouldn't admire such a *mensch* and his profession that let a kid explore wherever he may? It's clear some of us had librarianship in our sights from early on, whereas others fortuitously blundered or fell into it. I fall into the latter category. I had wanted to be an English teacher either in a high school or in a community college, and I got lucky and got a well-paying, fulltime teaching job right off, back in 1974, when there were 250 baby boomers lined up for every opening. But from the very first day in my high school classroom, I knew in my heart -- if not quite consciously -- that it was a mistake. I gutted it out for two years, but by the end of that period I was unhappy through and through and needed to make a career change. But what? What would offer me a chance to indulge my love of books, research, and scholarship? What would let me use my wide-ranging interests and knowledge as a part of my job? Fortunately, I was engaged to be married to one of those people who had had librarianship in her sights from early on. She suggested that reference work might be a good fit for me. How right she was. The morning after we married we set off for Tucson, Arizona, where we went through the MLS program at the University of Arizona together. And we're still together and still in this splendid profession together. I assure you that we don't talk about authority systems at the table, though my son would probably tell you that the shoptalk does get a bit thick from time to time. For the record, she is Linda Schallan, a librarian with the Scottsdale Public Library system, and she's still the best librarian I've ever known, and is my constant role model. If I can be 75 percent as good as Linda, I'll be a good librarian indeed. In reading your stories, I see a common thread -- love of the book, or of the printed word on the page, be it cellulose- or web-based -- and love of connecting people to the word. If the connection can be made along with promoting the idea of critical reading, all the better. Love of the word may be something in the genes, a matter of nature and not nurture, I think, though a wise parent will recognize the gene and nurture the tendencies it imparts. And in my case, that meant my blue-collar, non-college-degreed mom and dad taking me to the Carnegie-Stout Public Library of Dubuque, Iowa, just as often as I wanted to go. (I wanted to go a lot.) And it meant them heaping praise on me for the big stack of books I invariably carried home from the place. I still get nostalgic about the Carnegie-Stout Library, and I'm happy to report that both the library and the 1903 building are still there, presided over by Publib's own Sue Henricks: http://members.cox.net/jbsphx/cspl.jpg That's an old postcard view, and today a modern addition adjoins the original structure. Stout, by the way, was a Dubuque businessman who had made a great deal of money in the upper Mississippi valley lumbering industry, and who directed some of that money (in the form of the land the library stands on) to the project, along with Carnegie's. Back before the turn of the 19th century into the 20th, pines by the millions were felled in the forests of Wisconsin, floated down the various rivers to the Mississippi, and there lashed into immense rafts that were pushed by steamboats to the mills of Dubuque. Steel and Wisconsin pines can be transmuted into a public library. Amazing! Back in 1957 I thought the library was the grandest building I'd ever seen. Sure, Washington, DC had its monuments, but this temple of knowledge in Dubuque could stand proudly next to any of them. I felt like a lucky kid to live in a city that provided such a wonderful place. . . . . . Dubuque, Iowa, is a city of 57,000 on the Mississippi River where Iowa, Wisconsin, and Illinois meet. It lies upon magnificent limestone bluffs that open out to the river: http://www.smedesphoto.com/dubuque.htm It's full of interesting old buildings and places, and some interesting new ones, including a new Smithsonian-affiliated museum devoted to the nature and culture of the Mississippi River, especially the upper Mississippi River valley: http://www.mississippirivermuseum.com Nineteen miles west of Dubuque is the spot where a famous movie was filmed, where Shoeless Joe asked if he was in heaven and was told that, no, he had come to rest in Iowa. Thousands of Irish and German Catholic immigrants flocked to Dubuque and the surrounding countryside in the 19th century, and the sheer large numbers of them caused Dubuque first to be created a Diocese of the Roman Catholic Church in 1837 and then to be elevated to the status of an archdiocese in 1893. It remains the smallest American city to have the status of a Catholic archdiocese, sharing that distinction with places like Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York. There were (and are) 10 Catholic parishes in the city, including a lovely 1858 cathedral, a Catholic high school, two Catholic colleges, headquarters of three orders of Catholic nuns, and, in the nearby countryside, two monasteries. As such a Catholic center, Dubuque had its pretensions. In first grade one day, my teacher, Sister Camille, OSF, solemnly announced that "Rome has seven hills . . . and so does Dubuque." There's an old Russian saying that goes "Two Romes have fallen, a third still stands, and a fourth there shall not be." This refers to Moscow's pretensions as the successor to Rome. Rome fell to the barbarians in 476 AD and was succeeded as the center of Christendom by Constantinople, which in turn fell to the Turks in 1453. The role of chief city of authentic Christianity then passed to Moscow, at least according to the Russian Orthodox way of looking at the situation. Two Romes have fallen, a third still stands, and a fourth there shall not be. Obviously someone neglected to tell the Muscovites about Dubuque, Iowa. Iowa's "little Rome" had, appropriately enough, a Corinthian- columned temple of knowledge, complete with rotunda and library-owned Grant Wood painting, to go along with all the Roman Catholic magnificence. For a seven-year-old kid who loved books and history and stories, what grander place to live could there possibly be? Just the act of passing through the tall columns always cast a shimmer of hushed reverence over me. Exactly like entering the nave of St. Mary's or Sacred Heart Church, elsewhere in town. Then, in 1958, I found out that I was to be taken out of Dubuque. The family was moving to the distant, exotic, and unimaginable city of Phoenix, Arizona. This was territory I had only seen in the black-and-white movie westerns that played downtown at Dubuque's Strand Theater. You might as well have told me we were all going to Mars. (One wag has pointed out that the pictures being sent to Earth by the Mars rovers look an awful lot like . . . well . . . Arizona, a similarity that has moved some conspiracy theorists to assert that the moon landings and missions to Mars have in fact all been faked by NASA at a spot forty miles northeast of Flagstaff.) Ours was a common enough story, though. My dad had developed chronic and severe respiratory problems, and what the doctor ordered was taking up residence in a warm and dry climate. We left Dubuque with more than a little reluctance, but I found the idea that I was actually going to get to live way out west, in the place that haunted the imaginations of millions of Midwestern boys, thrilling. We arrived on October 31, 1958, and in very short order I was taken to Phoenix's then-new main public library: http://members.cox.net/jbsphx/phxpublib.jpg Like the whole city, this building was low slung, clean, spacious, and, above all, *moderne* in a rambling, Frank Lloyd Wright sort of way. (Would FLW have gone with the pink walls, though?) And though it was a public space as different as could be from the Greco-Roman magnificence of Dubuque, I took to it right off. The juvenile collection was housed on the first floor and separated from the rest of the library by floor-to-ceiling plate-glass walls. I had never seen anything like it! (It was an interesting idea. Our noise -- not that we *were* noisy! -- couldn't get out, but moms and dads could see IN. No kids ever ran into one of those walls and shattered it or injured himself, at least that I know of, but I suppose such liabilities would nix an architectural idea like this today. Unless one of you have it!) The juvi collection was big and terrific, especially since the Phoenix librarians had bought numerous books on rocks and minerals, which were my passion then. And then, one day in a library hallway, I discovered display cases containing a fabulous mineral collection, put there by a local mineralogical society. I not only spent happy hours in the library reading, but many happy minutes gazing at the eye-popping specimens and imagining myself, out in the deserts and mountains, finding things just like them. The main library on the postcard is gone, alas, having been overtaken by Phoenix's growth and progress. It was replaced ten years ago by a much larger building, much different in style, but, I think, as amazing to certain kinds of nine year old boys as the older building had been amazing to me: http://members.cox.net/jbsphx/newppl1.jpg http://members.cox.net/jbsphx/newppl2.jpg Sure, it looks like a five-story toaster, but I like it! Inside are exposed, glass-walled elevators that whisk you through the five floors via a steel-and-glass canyon. On top is the largest reading room in North America, with views of the desert mountains to the north and of downtown Phoenix and Chase Field (Arizona Diamondbacks) to the south. Not too long ago, near the Arizona Collection on the third floor of the new library, I discovered . . . the mineral collection! My fellow librarians had saved it and taken it with them to the new building! I don't think I get teary-eyed too easily, but . . . . . . . Like any profession, librarianship has its ups and downs, and once you've been in it for a long time, you have to fight burnout and cynicism. As a colleague once said, it's is hard sometimes to be a public librarian and maintain your faith in your fellow man. But despite the rough spots I may encounter, I'm deeply thankful to have discovered this profession. And a sure way to fight burnout and cynicism is to recall what the library meant to me when I was a kid and what it means to me as an adult still in love with the word on the page. It won't matter that I spent all those years *working* in a library; I can see myself, as a retiree, happily immersed for hours in the Arizona Collection in downtown Phoenix. . . . . I look at the images of the three buildings -- Carnegie-Stout, old Phoenix main, new Phoenix main -- and I think with pride that those buildings were and are there because of us, the librarians. We enable such places. If you ask me, that's really something! -- Joe Schallan Phoenix From kelly at carrollnet.org Mon May 8 09:41:50 2006 From: kelly at carrollnet.org (Kelly Currie) Date: Mon May 8 09:31:55 2006 Subject: [Publib] IM at the reference desk In-Reply-To: <7C10821B2302D54FABBD648C6C50DF83010462EB@mail.gcpl.lib.oh.us> Message-ID: <008201c672a5$2d7db060$9b01a8c0@dpl.local> Within the last few months, we have loaded a free software called Trillian on all our staff machines, and set up IM screen names for all staff in the IM program of their choice (Yahoo, MSN, or AIM). Trillian enables you to receive or send messages to all the major IM platforms through one interface. We often use it in house rather than email for simple requests or messages to each other one-on-one. We used this as a preparation for getting used to the program before offering it as a reference service. We then created screen names for the adult reference and children's librarians, and we have begun publicizing those contacts for reference service on our web page. So far, no one outside the library has taken advantage of it, but we hope with additional promo in the next school year, we can attract some students to use it for reference requests. We don't offer 24-hour IM service, but only during the hours we're open (10 am to 8:30 pm most days). Kelly Currie Delphi Public Library -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Dillie, Thomas Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 5:52 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] IM at the reference desk Here at GCPL we are about to add IM as method for customers to use to contact the library; the reference staff at one of the three large branches will be responsible for handing IM using Trillian on their desk PCs. Reference staff at all three branches view this project with some trepidation and would like more information about what other libraries are doing. So here's your chance to relate your own, true-life, IM adventures by answering the questions below. If you reply to me directly, I'll compile the results and post back to the list. 1. Are you offering IM as a way to contact your Library? If so, what department is responsible for messaging and how frequently do you offer the service, i.e. all the hours the library is open, or some shorter period of time? 2. How much preparation did you do before deciding to offer IM, and what kind of preparation was it? 3. How much activity do you see on your IM service, and how are people using it, i.e. know item questions, general queries, undefined chattiness, etc? 4. What was your intention in offering IM to the world at large, and how much has your experience matched or deviated from your expectations and hopes? 5. How long have you offered IM and did you have to change planned staffing or procedures in response to real-life events after began offering the service? 6. If you thought about IM and decided not to try it right now, why not? If you offered it and then changed your mind, why? 7. Anything else you'd like to mention. Thanks for you time, Tom Dillie, Assistant Director Greene County Public Library 76 E. Market St. PO Box 520 Xenia OH 45385 937-376-2995, ext. 204 tdillie@gcpl.lib.oh.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060508/c63e3578/attachment.htm From cherrman at bcpl.org Mon May 8 10:31:22 2006 From: cherrman at bcpl.org (Carrie Herrmann) Date: Mon May 8 10:35:40 2006 Subject: [Publib] cataloging lap top computers Message-ID: <200605081031.AA111476928@webmail.bcpl.org> I know this has been discussed before, but I am looking for an example of a MARC record for the technical services department. We are about to start circulating laptops and now need to be able to check them out. Any help is appreciated. Thank you. Carrie A. Herrmann Public Service Coordinator Boone County Public Library 8899 US 42 Union, KY 41042 Phone: 859-384-5550 Fax: 859-384-5557 From ash966 at bitstream.net Mon May 8 10:55:16 2006 From: ash966 at bitstream.net (ash966@bitstream.net) Date: Mon May 8 10:55:19 2006 Subject: [Publib] Flickr Message-ID: <12558.198.174.52.14.1147100116.squirrel@webmail.iphouse.com> Does anyone's filter block Flickr? Our 8e6 Technologies filter does. I am investigating whether we should unblock it, so please give me your opinions yea or nay. It doesn't block other social networking/web 2.0 sites like Myspace or Livejournal. --Andrea Herman St. Paul Public Library -- ***************************************************************** email: ash966@bitstream.net web page: http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/ash966/ ***************************************************************** "Oh don't the days seem lank and long When all goes right and nothing goes wrong And isn't your life extremely flat When you've nothing whatever to grumble at?" --W.S. Gilbert From jneff at olatheks.org Mon May 8 11:01:54 2006 From: jneff at olatheks.org (Joshua Neff) Date: Mon May 8 11:02:03 2006 Subject: [Publib] Flickr In-Reply-To: <12558.198.174.52.14.1147100116.squirrel@webmail.iphouse.com> Message-ID: <001801c672b0$5b0bac20$3202a8c0@olathe.lib.ks.us> Our filter doesn't block Flickr. I think blocking Flickr is problematic at best, because Flickr is just a site for storing images. It would be like banning books, because *some* books might contain offensive words or images. --Joshua M. Neff Indian Creek Branch Olathe Public Library -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of ash966@bitstream.net Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:55 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Flickr Does anyone's filter block Flickr? Our 8e6 Technologies filter does. I am investigating whether we should unblock it, so please give me your opinions yea or nay. It doesn't block other social networking/web 2.0 sites like Myspace or Livejournal. --Andrea Herman St. Paul Public Library -- ***************************************************************** email: ash966@bitstream.net web page: http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/ash966/ ***************************************************************** "Oh don't the days seem lank and long When all goes right and nothing goes wrong And isn't your life extremely flat When you've nothing whatever to grumble at?" --W.S. Gilbert _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From filleul at noblenet.org Mon May 8 10:58:32 2006 From: filleul at noblenet.org (Michelle Filleul) Date: Mon May 8 11:04:36 2006 Subject: [Publib] Flickr In-Reply-To: <12558.198.174.52.14.1147100116.squirrel@webmail.iphouse.com> References: <12558.198.174.52.14.1147100116.squirrel@webmail.iphouse.com> Message-ID: <445F5C98.8050600@noblenet.org> definitely unblock it. We even use Flickr for some of our library pictures. ash966@bitstream.net wrote: >Does anyone's filter block Flickr? Our 8e6 Technologies filter does. I am >investigating whether we should unblock it, so please give me your >opinions yea or nay. It doesn't block other social networking/web 2.0 >sites like Myspace or Livejournal. > > >--Andrea Herman > St. Paul Public Library > > > > > -- Michelle Filleul Head of Circulation Reading Public Library 64 Middlesex Ave Reading, MA 01867 filleul@noblenet.org From kgs at bluehighways.com Mon May 8 11:13:31 2006 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Mon May 8 11:13:42 2006 Subject: [Publib] Flickr In-Reply-To: <12558.198.174.52.14.1147100116.squirrel@webmail.iphouse.com> Message-ID: <002501c672b1$f8751b80$6401a8c0@venus> > Does anyone's filter block Flickr? Our 8e6 Technologies filter does. I am > investigating whether we should unblock it, so please give me your > opinions yea or nay. It doesn't block other social networking/web 2.0 > sites like Myspace or Livejournal. > > > --Andrea Herman > St. Paul Public Library Flickr has a good reputation; I feel as safe with Flickr as I do with any major newspaper. It has a policy about appropriate pictures that makes it hard to stumble across anything truly bad--not that it doesn't ever happen, but Flickr by and large is safe and friendly. I would be upset and concerned not to be able to get to Flickr from a library computer. All of my friends and family use Flickr; the incoming ALA president uses Flickr; reading my friends' latest comments and seeing their latest pictures is a big deal to me. Flickr is more than a place to post pictures; it's a community where groups of "contacts" share lives through an almost-wordless photo montage. Cat pictures, birthday celebrations, projects, memorials (a friend just posted a picture of her dear old dog who just died), funny moments, peeves (I've been uploading pictures of SUVs parked in spots marked "compact")... if my PC died and I had to rely on a library computer that wouldn't give me access to Flickr... that would take away a major part of my life. I know some of you think filters are necessary, but the idea that a filter would block Flickr just depresses the heck out of me. Also, if you want to see what Flickr is like, get an account (free) and find out. Instead of preventing access to Flickr, you should be there yourselves. Some libraries have Flickr accounts, if I'm not mistaken. Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com From jrichmond at alphapark.org Mon May 8 11:17:49 2006 From: jrichmond at alphapark.org (John) Date: Mon May 8 11:17:53 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why librarianship? -- an afterthought Message-ID: Someone--Mimi Morris, I think--mentioned growing up in the inner city, and wrote that the public library was for her a "refuge." I am glad to see that word. In our hyped-up, loud and sometimes chaotic world, in which leaders of workshops at state and national conventions are constantly telling us to make our libraries 24/7 operations with everything offered to every human being within reach (it's not just consultants; read library literature [sic] and how everything must be "cutting edge" and we work so *very* hard to let people know that of *course* they can make noise in the library, we've changed, we're not your grandparents' librarians/libraries anymore, etc.), and constant, distracting busy-ness is the greatest virtue of modern humanity--well, it is, almost, in the U. S. of A.--I am all for libraries as refuges, if need be. For whatever reason. Doesn't have to be inner city dangers. In my teens, I used the library as a blessed refuge from weird family situations. There aren't many islands of peace, or opportunities to truly retreat to someplace of relative tranquility and calm, in our world, so...to cut a long story short: I am for libraries as refuges, prescribed as needed (take one library today, and call me tomorrow). Even though, in my library, we let people talk and have given up as lost the cause of trying to get people to turn off their cell phones. There is still Reality to deal with, in the midst of [the desire for occasional] refuge. End of Deep Thought for the week. That will be five cents, please. John D. Richmond, Director Alpha Park Public Library District 3527 So. Airport Road Bartonville, IL 61607 Ph: 309-697-3822, x. 12 Fax: 309-697-9681 Email: jrichmond@alphapark.org _______________________________________________ When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy.? -- Ludwig van Beethoven From filleul at noblenet.org Mon May 8 11:16:23 2006 From: filleul at noblenet.org (Michelle Filleul) Date: Mon May 8 11:22:26 2006 Subject: [Publib] My library's Flickr account Message-ID: <445F60C7.5070309@noblenet.org> is here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/readingpl/ -- Michelle Filleul Head of Circulation Reading Public Library 64 Middlesex Ave Reading, MA 01867 filleul@noblenet.org From abarnett at scls.lib.wi.us Mon May 8 11:38:30 2006 From: abarnett at scls.lib.wi.us (Andy Barnett) Date: Mon May 8 11:38:38 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: IM at the reference desk In-Reply-To: <20060507160002.74EDD189AE4@lists.webjunction.org> References: <20060507160002.74EDD189AE4@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.1.20060508102842.037d1a58@mail.scls.lib.wi.us> At home I use Trillian to aggregate my IM accounts. It would be nice if all my relatives would agree on one service, but they don't. When I wanted to start IM at our reference desk, I had a problem with Trillian. It required a download and installation, which violated system security rules. So... We are using Meebo (www.meebo.com) , which works a lot like Trillian, but is entirely web based. Meebo gave us a sound notification problem in IE, but not in Firefox. Both are free. It is sooooooo easy to set up accounts at AIM, Yahoo and MS Messenger and access them all with either Trillian or Meebo. Millions of teenagers do it. It is good practice for staff, which should be developing these skills. No, you will not get thousands of IMs a day. In fact, you will probably have to practice talking to yourself for a couple months before much use develops. If it was expensive or a lot of work, I would say wait, but since it is simple and free, I would suggest going ahead yesterday. As suggested, you may find your best use is internal or interlibrary. Wish we had it throughout the system. Andy Barnett, Asst. Director www.mcmillanlibrary.org McMillan Memorial Library 490 East Grand Ave. 715-423-5144 (phone) Wisconsin Rapids, WI 54494 715-423-2665 (fax) Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. - Martin Luther King, Jr., 1929 - 1968 From edward_elsner at lycos.com Mon May 8 12:53:05 2006 From: edward_elsner at lycos.com (Edward Elsner) Date: Mon May 8 13:23:30 2006 Subject: [Publib] sharing weeded titles Message-ID: <20060508165305.F389F86ADF@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> As a small public library there are thousands of valuable reference titles and nonfiction series we will never be able to afford new. In looking for these titles used I find almost all of them have been weeded from large libraries. Instead of libraries selling them off for change at book sales and other libraries buying them for $10-$30 online, could we get them directly from some of these large libraries? Today I am looking for Weiss Ratings' Guide to Stock Mutual Funds, Weiss Ratings' Guide to Bond and Money Market Mutual Funds, and Weiss Ratings' Guide to Common Stocks. While $20 from Amazon's Marketplace is much more palatable than $219 from Weiss Ratings, I think we're ultimately hurting each other here and missing a great opportunity to network. Edward Elsner, Director & Consultant Delton District Library P.O. Box 155 Delton, MI 49046 (269) 623-8040 ddl@mei.net -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From cnienke at andoverlibrary.org Mon May 8 12:43:13 2006 From: cnienke at andoverlibrary.org (Cheri Nienke) Date: Mon May 8 13:23:31 2006 Subject: [Publib] disk retrieval machine Message-ID: I think I need to reword my original request about a disk retrieval system. We are looking to purchase an "automated disk retrieval system". This is a machine that holds up to 2-300 CD's. You punch in the barcode number of the title you want, and it finds it and delivers it to you. It could be used behind the circ desk to hold DVD's that have been removed from the cases. If anyone has used one of these machines, please let me know. Sorry about the confusion.Cheri Cheri Nienke Assistant Director Andover Public Library 937 N. Andover Rd. Andover, KS 67002 316-733-4599 cnienk@andoverlibrary.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060508/934038a4/attachment.htm From lcrossett at will.state.wy.us Mon May 8 15:10:07 2006 From: lcrossett at will.state.wy.us (Laura Crossett) Date: Mon May 8 15:11:04 2006 Subject: [Publib] sharing weeded titles References: <20060508165305.F389F86ADF@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: <001101c672d3$0693e720$afb45889@park16> In Wyoming (and perhaps someone who's actually been in the state for more than 2 months could corroborate, correct, and/or elaborate) we have a state-wide discard list. Any library can add items to it, and anyone who wants them can get them, usually just for the cost of shipping. I know my library has acquired several reference books this way (and I'm currently trying to get rid of some--anyone want a run of Current Biography from 1984-1994?). Laura Crossett Branch Manager Meeteetse Branch Library PO Box 129 / 2107 Idaho Meeteetse, WY 82433 307.868.2248 www.parkcountylibrary.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Elsner" To: "PubLib" Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: [Publib] sharing weeded titles As a small public library there are thousands of valuable reference titles and nonfiction series we will never be able to afford new. In looking for these titles used I find almost all of them have been weeded from large libraries. Instead of libraries selling them off for change at book sales and other libraries buying them for $10-$30 online, could we get them directly from some of these large libraries? Today I am looking for Weiss Ratings' Guide to Stock Mutual Funds, Weiss Ratings' Guide to Bond and Money Market Mutual Funds, and Weiss Ratings' Guide to Common Stocks. While $20 from Amazon's Marketplace is much more palatable than $219 from Weiss Ratings, I think we're ultimately hurting each other here and missing a great opportunity to network. Edward Elsner, Director & Consultant Delton District Library P.O. Box 155 Delton, MI 49046 (269) 623-8040 ddl@mei.net -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From kgs at bluehighways.com Mon May 8 14:23:36 2006 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Mon May 8 15:21:44 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why librarianship? -- an afterthought In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004c01c672cc$865e0000$6401a8c0@venus> > Someone--Mimi Morris, I think--mentioned growing up in the inner city, and > wrote that the public library was for her a "refuge." I am glad to see > that word. In our hyped-up, loud and sometimes chaotic world, in which > leaders of workshops at state and national conventions are constantly > telling us to make our libraries 24/7 operations with everything offered > to every human being within reach (it's not just consultants; read library > literature [sic] and how everything must be "cutting edge" Hmmm, with all due respect, I feel this conflates two issues: * Libraries as refuge (comfortable, quiet, tranquil) * Libraries offering "cutting edge" services A library might be quiet, but if it does not let me access my Flickr account, log on to my email via wi-fi, or use some other "cutting edge" service I've come to rely on (and quite often what is "cutting edge" in libraries has been mainstream elsewhere for years), than it is hardly a refuge. Browsing Flickr is one way I chill out and reflect on the world. How, I ask myself, can there be so many beautiful orange cats? Checking up on my family (weird or otherwise) whilst plumped in a comfy chair is another way I chill out when I'm wandering around. I also use my cell phone, muted, to skim email or respond to an IM, even though there is often a big sign that tells me not to use a cell phone EVER! IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM! Or maybe I just want to skim a book I heard about, but the library has so few OPACs I find myself standing on line just to look it up. Or I want to look up an article, but there's a long wait for a PC. If you mean that regardless of its services it's nice when libraries have designated areas for thought, reflection, and study, I agree with you--just as long as those aren't placed in opposition to library services. Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com From chart at cityofsanbenito.com Mon May 8 16:15:44 2006 From: chart at cityofsanbenito.com (Cynthia Hart) Date: Mon May 8 16:16:18 2006 Subject: [Publib] Friends group and ethics Message-ID: I am new to public librarianship, and I have never worked with a Friends of the Library Organization before. Does ALA have any guidelines about the ethics of Friends groups? For example, my Library employees are asked to do the work for Friends fundraisers. Every week, we show a movie as a fundraiser. My employees are expected to show the movie, sell candy and popcorn, collect the money, shop for snacks, etc. on Library time. I have to schedule an extra person on Saturdays to do this, which cuts into my salaries budget. It doesn't seem quite right to me. Cynthia Hart San Benito Public Library -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Rodney Rich Assistant Director Weslaco Public Library (956) 973-3138 FAX- (956) 969-4069 rodrich5@msn.com rrich@weslaco.lib.tx.us From jcasey at oaklawnlibrary.org Mon May 8 17:00:22 2006 From: jcasey at oaklawnlibrary.org (James Casey) Date: Mon May 8 16:53:03 2006 Subject: [Publib] Microfilm Reader/Printers Message-ID: <8AA02A9678BBCC4CB603305A2E4C334E13E0C4@spartan2.oaklawnlib.local> Be sure to purchase a digital reader printer --- one that sends the image to a computer printer --- rather than one of the old style of electro mechanical reader printers with rolled paper and photographic process. At least the digital microform units will last for a number of years and not become junk as soon as they are out of the box. Microform usage here has diminished greatly over the years and it is obvious that the patrons prefer digital and print options to straining their eyes on microform reader devices. As soon as it becomes cost effective to convert back runs of old news paper in microform to digital form and proceed with key word indexing, the old and very expensive microform collections will begin to disappear. James B. Casey --- My own views. Director of Oak Lawn Public Library (South Suburban Chicago) ALA Council Member. -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Rodney Rich Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:29 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Microfilm Reader/Printers I was given the job of purchasing a Microfilm reader/printer for our library. Our old is beyond repair and just would not be worth it. You are probably wondering "do patrons still use microfilm", yes they do. I was hoping someone could guide me to some websites and pricing information. Maybe recommend a model. I have a pretty good budget allowance, so money is not the issue. Quality and performance is what I'm looking for. Thanks Rodney Rich Assistant Director Weslaco Public Library (956) 973-3138 FAX- (956) 969-4069 rodrich5@msn.com rrich@weslaco.lib.tx.us _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From suekamm at mindspring.com Mon May 8 17:01:11 2006 From: suekamm at mindspring.com (Sue Kamm) Date: Mon May 8 17:01:14 2006 Subject: [Publib] Friends group and ethics Message-ID: <31944614.1147122071190.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060508/50d933b1/attachment.htm From chart at cityofsanbenito.com Mon May 8 17:08:48 2006 From: chart at cityofsanbenito.com (Cynthia Hart) Date: Mon May 8 17:08:52 2006 Subject: [Publib] Thank you and more ethics problems Message-ID: A sincere thank you to everyone who responded to my question about my staff doing all the work for the Friends' fundraiser. I knew I could count on my colleagues to help me with this sticky situation. In discussing this with my staff, another issue has come up. The president of our Friends organization (who is also a board member) regularly comes to the Library on Saturdays 2-3 hours before we open and expects to be let in to use the internet. He is here alone with female staff members who feel uncomfortable with him. Any thoughts? Cynthia Hart San Benito Public Library -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060508/ea6359ea/attachment.htm From chart at cityofsanbenito.com Mon May 8 17:48:33 2006 From: chart at cityofsanbenito.com (Cynthia Hart) Date: Mon May 8 17:48:43 2006 Subject: [Publib] Thanks again Message-ID: I can't thank you all enough. You have expressed so many different concerns that I haven't even thought of. I've only been on the job a month, and I'm sure there are many more learning experiences in my future. Cynthia Hart San Benito Public Library -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060508/862ae835/attachment.htm From MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org Mon May 8 17:56:35 2006 From: MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org (Mary J. Soucie) Date: Mon May 8 17:57:51 2006 Subject: [Publib] Thank you and more ethics problems Message-ID: <35A3685E8502B5428734A99EDA6E5E5120D3AC@server.wilmingtonlibrary.org> Friends and Board should not expect special privileges that are individualized and that extreme. If the staff is uncomfortable, he definitely should not be there. Is staff always in the building so early? I would talk to him and let him know that you are changing the practices so they follow policy and procedures and that your procedures indicate that patrons should not be in the building prior to opening. Good luck and let us know how it works it. Mary Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Cynthia Hart Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:09 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Thank you and more ethics problems A sincere thank you to everyone who responded to my question about my staff doing all the work for the Friends' fundraiser. I knew I could count on my colleagues to help me with this sticky situation. In discussing this with my staff, another issue has come up. The president of our Friends organization (who is also a board member) regularly comes to the Library on Saturdays 2-3 hours before we open and expects to be let in to use the internet. He is here alone with female staff members who feel uncomfortable with him. Any thoughts? Cynthia Hart San Benito Public Library -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060508/61e6a65f/attachment.htm From Dianeh at cape-may.county.lib.nj.us Mon May 8 18:10:32 2006 From: Dianeh at cape-may.county.lib.nj.us (Diane Hamilton) Date: Mon May 8 18:07:26 2006 Subject: [Publib] John Iliff Message-ID: <31E28B9C2DC7494DB6FAA05A16EC68AD84319A@cmcl-exch.ad.cape-may.county.lib.nj.us> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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People who are learning English enjoy practicing it in a non-threatening atmosphere. Our groups attract 10 - 20 people for an 1 ? hour discussion. They have formed friendships with each other and are very appreciative to the library for offering the opportunity. Christine Lind Hage, Director Rochester Hills Public Library 500 Olde Towne Road Rochester, MI 48307-2043 Voice: 248/650-7122 Fax: 248/650-7121 ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Cox, Shelia Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:20 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] ESL classes I'd be interesting to hear if any of you offer ESL classes at your library and if so, your experiences with doing so. I'd be happy to summarize for the list. Thanks. Shelia *********** This electronic communication (including attachments) may contain attorney privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the named recipient. 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Miriam Bobkoff mkbobkoff@santafenm.gov Santa Fe Public Library 145 Washington Avnue Santa Fe, NM 87501 (505) 955-6832 The Library's Page http://www.santafelibrary.org Icarus... the SFPL Blog http://santafelibrary.blogspot.com From cadams at pls.lib.ok.us Mon May 8 21:26:35 2006 From: cadams at pls.lib.ok.us (Cathy Adams) Date: Mon May 8 21:26:38 2006 Subject: [Publib] What Librarians Do Message-ID: <200605082026.AA106561686@MAIL.pls.lib.ok.us> Several months ago on a list-serve, and I don't remember which one, someone posted a link to an article about what Librarians do. The article was a list of things similar to "librarians are accountants because they manage budgets" or something along that line. I no longer have the email or the link, does it sound familiar? I am participating in a junior high career day and would love to use it. Thank you for your help. Cathy Cathy Adams, MLIS Teen Services Librarian Moore Public Library cadams@pls.lib.ok.us www.justsoyouknow.us Moore Public Library ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at MAIL.pls.lib.ok.us From kgs at bluehighways.com Mon May 8 22:37:34 2006 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Mon May 8 22:37:38 2006 Subject: [Publib] John Iliff In-Reply-To: <20060508223819.M47954@cybermesa.com> Message-ID: <000901c67311$882bfbe0$6401a8c0@venus> > So sorry to hear about John Iliff. He was one of the cofounders of PUBLIB, > the > first 'place' on the net that I knew about; and was a generous email > correspondent to this then electronic newbie. > > Thank you, Mr. Iliff. I posted to the guestbook, but I'll post here as well, and am sure Sara will to. John was a warm, funny, generous person, someone who gave of himself gladly. He had tremendous enthusiasm and vitality. As one of PUBLIB's founders, John is responsible for creating this community. It's one thing to curate an existing resource; it's another to be part of the blood, sweat, toil, and tears of pioneering something newfangled and experimental. John was not only forward-thinking, he was cheerful about the slings and arrows of pioneer work in a way that is a model to us all. John was a great librarian, and he will be missed. Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com From MHUNT at goldcoast.qld.gov.au Tue May 9 02:58:23 2006 From: MHUNT at goldcoast.qld.gov.au (HUNT Melindie) Date: Tue May 9 02:58:26 2006 Subject: [Publib] disk retrieval machine Message-ID: <70DCEC557DA695449495E74B564BCD4F01272CA4@msmgs1.gccc.goldcoast.qld.gov.au> I've used this sort of system - the brand was "Disk Stakka", and held 150 discs per unit. We had 6 units when I left that library service last year. It was very successful - worked by scanning the barcode, the appropriate unit spins around to the required disk. Cost was about $190 Australian. Melindie Queensland Australia -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Cheri Nienke Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2006 2:43 To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] disk retrieval machine I think I need to reword my original request about a disk retrieval system. We are looking to purchase an "automated disk retrieval system". This is a machine that holds up to 2-300 CD's. You punch in the barcode number of the title you want, and it finds it and delivers it to you. It could be used behind the circ desk to hold DVD's that have been removed from the cases. If anyone has used one of these machines, please let me know. Sorry about the confusion.Cheri Cheri Nienke Assistant Director Andover Public Library 937 N. Andover Rd. Andover, KS 67002 316-733-4599 cnienk@andoverlibrary.org ********************************************************************** This email and its contents is confidential to the Gold Coast City Council, and un-authorised use is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/fd0462c8/attachment.htm From jbsphx at cox.net Tue May 9 03:05:00 2006 From: jbsphx at cox.net (Joe Schallan) Date: Tue May 9 03:05:04 2006 Subject: [Publib] Libraries as refuges (was Why Librarianship?) Message-ID: John Richmond wrote: "Someone--Mimi Morris, I think--mentioned growing up in the inner city, and wrote that the public library was for her a "refuge." I am glad to see that word. In our hyped-up, loud and sometimes chaotic world, in which leaders of workshops at state and national conventions are constantly telling us to make our libraries 24/7 operations with everything offered to every human being within reach . . . and how everything must be "cutting edge" and we work so *very* hard to let people know that of *course* they can make noise in the library, we've changed, we're not your grandparents' librarians/libraries anymore, etc.), and constant, distracting busy-ness is the greatest virtue of modern humanity--well, it is, almost, in the U. S. of A.--I am all for libraries as refuges . . . " Back at about the same time that Nicholson Baker was lambasting us for our cavalier disrespect and disregard for paper in all its user-friendliness and longevity (with more than a whiff of an accusation that we'd betrayed the very core of our profession), another writer, Sallie Tisdale, took us to task for the three-ring circuses we've made of our libraries. These were palpable hits, and because they were, librarians did indeed protest them too much. John's comments make it a good time to revisit Ms. Tisdale's article: "Silence Please," by Sallie Tisdale, Harper's Magazine, March 1997, Vol. 294, Issue 1762. Here's an excerpt: "When I entered the library as a child, I walked up several imposing steps to a door of respectful size, through a small foyer--and through the looking glass. The librarian's large desk stood guard over the small building, braced by books on three sides. The rooms were close, filled with big, heavy tables that had dictionaries open on reading stands; tall, sweet smelling, precarious shelves; leather armchairs; rubber coated wheeled stepstools; and other readers, silent and absorbed. They formed an open maze through which I threaded myself . . . "This was a place set outside the ordinary day. Its silence--outrageous, magic, unlike any other sound in my life--was a counterpoint to the interior noise in my crowded mind. It was the only sacred space I knew, intimate and formal at once, hushed, potent. I didn't need to be told this--I felt it. In the library I could hunker down in an aisle, seeing only the words in my lap, and a stranger would simply step over me and bend down for his own book with what I now think of as a rare and touching courtesy. That place was then, and remains, the Library; what Jorge Luis Borges knew all along was more than that: it was "the Universe (which others call the Library)." Only outside the door, on the steps, did one take a deep breath, blink at the sudden light, pause to shift the weight of new books in one's arms, and go out again into the world. "I am disabled by this memory. I still show up at ten in the morning at the central branch of the Multnomah County Library, in Portland, Oregon, where I now live, impatient for the doors to open. I always find people ahead of me, waiting on the wide stone steps, and I wait with them. knowing better. The library I knew, the one I remember, is almost extinct. "In the last few years I have gone to the library to study or browse or look something up, and instead have found myself listening to radios, crying babies, a cappella love songs, puppet shows, juggling demonstrations, CD-ROM games, and cellular telephone calls . . . " Baker's and Tisdale's poignant criticisms were the inspiration for my "Ludd Library" press-release prank, which I posted to Publib and which then took on a life of its own, culminating in an email to me from Leonard Kniffel, editor of American Libraries, asking for confirmation of the launching of the Ludd Library project. Shortly thereafter, I found myself at lunch with a longtime friend -- the deputy director of a large library system -- who asked if I had heard about the people who wanted to set up a library free of computers and "programs." Red-faced, I had to explain that I had indeed heard about it, since I had fabricated the whole thing in the first place! On Publib I speculated about the readiness of librarians to fall for my parody -- was it their profound literalmindedness, or was it in fact because of a deep, perhaps unconscious, knowledge that we have lost our way? I'd like to put forth the proposition that readers are born, not made, and that none of our bread and circuses, not one of our "Read" posters featuring insufferable and self-centered icons of pop culture, nothing, nothing at all will magically change nonreaders into readers. Shouldn't we be playing to our strengths, to our devoted reader- patrons, instead of fruitlessly pursuing the philistines who will never think fondly of, nor support, the library once they've extracted from it what they require to satisfy the need of the moment? It is very nice that they can grab a tax form, apply for a passport, get a latte, take their driver's test, have a pizza party, and god knows what else, but none of these will make one more reader. Shouldn't we be creating a refuge, a quiet, respectful place that is for reading and thinking? (It will be the only place like it still available in our 130-decibel, 24/7, stream-of-spam "civilization," and will be much esteemed for it.) Recasting the library as community infotainment center may save our jobs for a while, but it will make us into something we're not and shouldn't aspire to be. Books, reading, and thinking, and the promotion of them, is the "Why Librarianship" for me. Not only is emphasizing those things and serving readers the right thing to do, it is our strength. We betray and weaken ourselves when we think we have to adopt the methods of Hollywood to attract and hold readers. Let others provide the bread and circuses. I'll take my stand in Borges' Library. Build it and the readers will come. Joe Schallan Jurassic Librarian Phoenix From dale.mcneill at gmail.com Tue May 9 07:19:59 2006 From: dale.mcneill at gmail.com (Dale McNeill) Date: Tue May 9 07:20:06 2006 Subject: [Publib] Libraries as refuges (was Why Librarianship?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69cd9c750605090419x9c4c405hbf11812c8cfcc493@mail.gmail.com> The Edmonton (Alberta) Public Library at their Central library does have programs, and a coffee shop, and a media room that reminds one of a Virgin Megastore. However, the first floor is a wonderful celebration of books and reading (Dewey 700s, 800s, and fiction), with long reading tables in the sun. The stack areas are very quiet. The 2nd floor houses the remainder of the adult collection and the reference desk. I think it's impressively done and serves as a reminder that there is a way to be true to the "quiet" tradition and to the newer, louder tradition. I had absolutely nothing to do with this project; I've just visited the library. Born in 1961 and growing up in two small towns in Oklahoma (spending the school week in one and the weekend and summer in another) I visited and later worked in both types of library. The "silent temple" and the "loud circus". I enjoyed both of them, frankly, for different reasons. I must say the loud library was and still is more supported by the community. While librarians (and our consultants) have certainly designed louder buildings, more programming, more music, and so on, I think we should not forget that this is part of a whole cultural change. In the late 1960s in rural Oklahoma, the library was not the only silent place: the supermarket (such as it was) was very quiet, department stores were hushed, many churches were very quiet indeed (not ours, because ours was Pentecostal and, well, let's leave it there), in elementary school no one spoke except the teacher, even in the city park one heard mostly birds. This has all changed, as we know. The library is just easy to identify, because we clung to quietness longer than the general culture. Another cultural change is that, at least in small towns, it used to be perfectly fine for the librarian to tell children and adults what to do. And they just did it. By the time I started working in the same 2 libraries (1980), if you asked a child to be quiet, the mother screamed at you and told you "that's my child and you're not to raise my child". So, I just want to point out that we didn't change in a void. There was and will be change throughout society. Dale On 5/9/06, Joe Schallan wrote: > > > > Recasting the library as community infotainment center may > save our jobs for a while, but it will make us into something > we're not and shouldn't aspire to be. > > Books, reading, and thinking, and the promotion of them, is > the "Why Librarianship" for me. Not only is emphasizing those > things and serving readers the right thing to do, it is our strength. > We betray and weaken ourselves when we think we have to adopt > the methods of Hollywood to attract and hold readers. > > Let others provide the bread and circuses. I'll take my stand > in Borges' Library. Build it and the readers will come. > > Joe Schallan > Jurassic Librarian > Phoenix > > _______________________________________________ > Publib mailing list > Publib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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One in particular always sticks with me, I'll call her RW. Now I don't know the full life story of RW, so she may have been born a reader but I do know that she was not born using computers. She has had a fairly had life (at least three children that I know of and now father figure to speak of...) and she began coming in to the library I think in search of the refuge that several have posted about recently. But over the months (and eventually) years, she has taught herself MS Word and Publisher as well as general web skills (searching, email, etc.) and began writing poetry. She now uses the library to write, layout, print, and 'publish' a poetry magazine about once a month and sells them in her neighborhood. She has even submitted her poetry to on-line poetry contests and has won a few. None of this would have been possible without first the library having computers and second the dedicated staff that over the years helped teach RW how to use the computers. So while we may not have made a reader from a non-reader, we certainly helped empower her literary tendencies that may not have had a chance to survive with out the library... George __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Dianeh at cape-may.county.lib.nj.us Tue May 9 09:46:36 2006 From: Dianeh at cape-may.county.lib.nj.us (Diane Hamilton) Date: Tue May 9 09:43:42 2006 Subject: [Publib] Programs by area businesses Message-ID: <31E28B9C2DC7494DB6FAA05A16EC68AD8431A8@cmcl-exch.ad.cape-may.county.lib.nj.us> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From chilcoat at cals.org Tue May 9 09:44:44 2006 From: chilcoat at cals.org (Jennifer Chilcoat) Date: Tue May 9 09:44:51 2006 Subject: [Publib] Thank you and more ethics problems Message-ID: <8BE46744C3B4BD4C8B96DA4BBC6EBDA30160E5D6@HOLYCOW.cals.lib.ar.us> You may have a built-in excuse if you'll talk to your insurance agent. My understanding is that insurance companies normally don't like for anyone other than staff to be in the building outside of regular operating hours. Even though he is on your board, that doesn't make him an employee. Jennifer Chilcoat Assoc. Director for Institutional Services Central Arkansas Library System 100 Rock St. Little Rock, AR 72201 voice 501.918.3031 fax 501.375.7451 ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Mary J. Soucie Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:57 PM To: Cynthia Hart; publib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Publib] Thank you and more ethics problems Friends and Board should not expect special privileges that are individualized and that extreme. If the staff is uncomfortable, he definitely should not be there. Is staff always in the building so early? I would talk to him and let him know that you are changing the practices so they follow policy and procedures and that your procedures indicate that patrons should not be in the building prior to opening. Good luck and let us know how it works it. Mary Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Cynthia Hart Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:09 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Thank you and more ethics problems A sincere thank you to everyone who responded to my question about my staff doing all the work for the Friends' fundraiser. I knew I could count on my colleagues to help me with this sticky situation. In discussing this with my staff, another issue has come up. The president of our Friends organization (who is also a board member) regularly comes to the Library on Saturdays 2-3 hours before we open and expects to be let in to use the internet. He is here alone with female staff members who feel uncomfortable with him. Any thoughts? Cynthia Hart San Benito Public Library -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/099d0ae3/attachment.htm From dlmessling at hublib.lib.nj.us Tue May 9 10:07:47 2006 From: dlmessling at hublib.lib.nj.us (Deb Messling) Date: Tue May 9 10:10:05 2006 Subject: [Publib] 21st century job hunting question Message-ID: <200605091007.AA11731274@mail.hublib.lib.nj.us> AI know a young person who has decided to get her MLS and pursue a career in youth services. She's already been accepted to grad school and is currently looking into various work-study options in public libraries. Being nosy, I Googled her name and came up with a myspace page that I suppose is no wilder than many other young people's pages, but certain entries definitely gave me pause. Do employers routinely Google job applicants these days? Should I counsel her to take down/edit her page? Do public libraries even care about their employees private lives? -- Deb Messling Phillipsburg Free Public Library 200 Frost Avenue Phillipsburg, NJ 08865 (908) 454-3712 dlmessling@hublib.lib.nj.us -- From abrown at duncan.lib.ok.us Tue May 9 10:10:39 2006 From: abrown at duncan.lib.ok.us (Ann Brown) Date: Tue May 9 10:11:07 2006 Subject: [Publib] Programs by area businesses In-Reply-To: <31E28B9C2DC7494DB6FAA05A16EC68AD8431A8@cmcl-exch.ad.cape-may.county.lib.nj.us> Message-ID: <002101c67372$5d274b00$020110ac@Director> At my former library we had people from Lowe's and Home Depot come to do programs on basic home repairs, such as replacing a faucet. I'm pretty sure the programs didn't cost the library anything, (except some coffee and cookies), but I don't think they were very well attended. Ann Brown Director Duncan Public Library Duncan, OK -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Diane Hamilton Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:47 AM To: Publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Programs by area businesses I sent this last week but only received one response so I thought I would try again.. At Computers in Library someone talked about having area businesses come into the library and do training. One example was Best Buy doing training on mp3 players and other "gadgets." I thought I read somewhere (not sure if it was here) about Home Depot and Lowe's going into a libraries and offering different programs. We don't have a Best Buy in our county - although there is one in a neighboring county - so I was curious if other libraries did this. And if so, what companies have offered this type of thing. I promise to summarize and share the responses I get. Thanks for your help, Diane Hamilton Cape May County Library -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/a669273b/attachment.htm From kgs at bluehighways.com Tue May 9 10:28:20 2006 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Tue May 9 10:28:25 2006 Subject: [Publib] Thank you and more ethics problems In-Reply-To: <8BE46744C3B4BD4C8B96DA4BBC6EBDA30160E5D6@HOLYCOW.cals.lib.ar.us> Message-ID: <001001c67374$d2bb03f0$6401a8c0@venus> "You may have a built-in excuse if you'll talk to your insurance agent.? My understanding is that insurance companies normally don't like for anyone other than staff to be in the building outside of regular operating hours.? Even though he is on your board, that doesn't make him an employee." That was part of my advice as well, such as it was. I get the feeling a lot of us responded off-list. I was thinking about good advice and how a system director named Malcolm took the time to mentor me a few years back during my stint as a public library director in one of those Barbie Dream libraries out in the sticks. Malcolm gave me two pieces of advice. The first was not to overwhelm my board; never have them chewing over more than three things at any one time. I'm a detail person and a multitasker and someone who wants it all happening right now. Learning to throttle back and think like a collective unit was invaluable (and useful for far more than board management). The second is that staff, Friends, volunteers, and board members should be mutually exclusive groups. I know this is widespread advice, and that in some areas laws dictate these relationships--but there's good advice, there's the law, and then there's your library. When you're working with stakeholders, it can be long, slow, tough, delicate work to untangle these relationships. FOLUSA even directly comments on keeping Friends separate from Boards: http://www.folusa.org/html/fact10.html Maybe a few strategic purchases and a presentation are in order here... it sounds as if your Friends and Board members need some clarity about who they represent. (Aside: I like how FOLUSA points out elsewhere that working with the library toward a budget increase can often have a far more significant impact on the library's budget than a book sale.) Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com From anne at stratford.lib.ct.us Tue May 9 10:57:47 2006 From: anne at stratford.lib.ct.us (Anne Killheffer) Date: Tue May 9 10:57:51 2006 Subject: [Publib] Fighting burnout and cynicism Message-ID: <200605091057470349.006B13DD@netconnect.stratford.lib.ct.us> The public reference librarian does have to deal with burnout, almost universally. Now that I am ten years into the profession, I find myself thinking more and more often of a pearl of wisdom that my reference teacher, the late and great Liz Futas, gave us: "The library patron has just as much right to be there as you do. Maybe more." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/9cd5c2d6/attachment.htm From Brenda.Crispin at ci.oxnard.ca.us Tue May 9 11:34:37 2006 From: Brenda.Crispin at ci.oxnard.ca.us (Brenda Crispin) Date: Tue May 9 11:31:42 2006 Subject: [Publib] Fighting burnout and cynicism Message-ID: Absolutely! Without the patron we would not have a job. I am into my 16th year and occasional experience feelings of burnout. It is frequently when I have to explain something for the 1,000th time. When I get that feeling I try to remind myself that this may be the 1000th time I have had to say this but it is the FIRST time the patron has heard it. It is fresh and new for him or her. And of course dealing with the occasional difficult patron adds to the experience of burnout as it can take so much out of us. We are in a service profession, we literally give of ourselves everyday and sometimes our reserves run low. That's when I take a deep breath and remind myself of why I chose this profession in the first place. Then realize that the rewards have always outweighed the negatives. Brenda Crispin Local History Librarian Oxnard Public Library 251 South A Street Oxnard, CA 93030 805-385-7531 Brenda.Crispin@ci.oxnard.ca.us >>> "Anne Killheffer" 05/09/06 7:57 AM >>> The public reference librarian does have to deal with burnout, almost universally. Now that I am ten years into the profession, I find myself thinking more and more often of a pearl of wisdom that my reference teacher, the late and great Liz Futas, gave us: "The library patron has just as much right to be there as you do. Maybe more." From jsanderson at nngov.com Tue May 9 11:41:46 2006 From: jsanderson at nngov.com (Jim Sanderson) Date: Tue May 9 11:42:02 2006 Subject: [Publib] Thank you and more ethics problems In-Reply-To: <35A3685E8502B5428734A99EDA6E5E5120D3AC@server.wilmingtonlibrary.org> Message-ID: <005b01c6737f$15351900$072f050a@NNPLS.ORG> You may also want to talk to your insurer about liability if he should have or cause an accident etc. while in the building outsid eof operating hours. Jim -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Mary J. Soucie Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:57 PM To: Cynthia Hart; publib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Publib] Thank you and more ethics problems Friends and Board should not expect special privileges that are individualized and that extreme. If the staff is uncomfortable, he definitely should not be there. Is staff always in the building so early? I would talk to him and let him know that you are changing the practices so they follow policy and procedures and that your procedures indicate that patrons should not be in the building prior to opening. Good luck and let us know how it works it. Mary Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Cynthia Hart Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:09 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Thank you and more ethics problems A sincere thank you to everyone who responded to my question about my staff doing all the work for the Friends' fundraiser. I knew I could count on my colleagues to help me with this sticky situation. In discussing this with my staff, another issue has come up. The president of our Friends organization (who is also a board member) regularly comes to the Library on Saturdays 2-3 hours before we open and expects to be let in to use the internet. He is here alone with female staff members who feel uncomfortable with him. Any thoughts? Cynthia Hart San Benito Public Library -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 5608 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/907061c7/winmail-0001.bin From SandstromJC at elpasotexas.gov Tue May 9 12:47:21 2006 From: SandstromJC at elpasotexas.gov (Sandstrom, John C.) Date: Tue May 9 13:10:27 2006 Subject: [Publib] Fighting burnout and cynicism Message-ID: <977B1B84AF121946B248454790C334860143FB6F@VGER> For a slightly different take... After 19 years as a professional librarian, working with patrons really doesn't buen me out. It seems that no matter how many times I'm asked where the restroom is, for that bestseller that has 60 requests on it, etc. working with the public doesn't get to me. Where I burn out, and get real cynical, is working with our funding bodies, be the municipality, board, or whatever. I'm tired of explaining why you can't run a library with just volunteers, that books are stilll important, that we are more than a warehouse for books, that my Master's is worth just as much as yours, that less than $1 per capita for books and materials is not enough, etc, etc, etc. It puts me in mind of the quote, "We, the unwilling,led by the unknowing,are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much,for so long,with so little,we are now qualified to do anything with nothing." (attribution unknown) I'm not really unwilling, but sometimes it really wears thin. John "It's BUDGET time" Sandstrom El Paso Public Library Message: 29 Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 08:34:37 -0700 From: "Brenda Crispin" Subject: Re: [Publib] Fighting burnout and cynicism To: , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Absolutely! Without the patron we would not have a job. I am into my 16th year and occasional experience feelings of burnout. It is frequently when I have to explain something for the 1,000th time. When I get that feeling I try to remind myself that this may be the 1000th time I have had to say this but it is the FIRST time the patron has heard it. It is fresh and new for him or her. And of course dealing with the occasional difficult patron adds to the experience of burnout as it can take so much out of us. We are in a service profession, we literally give of ourselves everyday and sometimes our reserves run low. That's when I take a deep breath and remind myself of why I chose this profession in the first place. Then realize that the rewards have always outweighed the negatives. Brenda Crispin Local History Librarian Oxnard Public Library 251 South A Street Oxnard, CA 93030 805-385-7531 Brenda.Crispin@ci.oxnard.ca.us >>> "Anne Killheffer" 05/09/06 7:57 AM >>> The public reference librarian does have to deal with burnout, almost universally. Now that I am ten years into the profession, I find myself thinking more and more often of a pearl of wisdom that my reference teacher, the late and great Liz Futas, gave us: "The library patron has just as much right to be there as you do. Maybe more." From jmaroon at cityof.lawton.ok.us Tue May 9 12:47:17 2006 From: jmaroon at cityof.lawton.ok.us (Jim Maroon) Date: Tue May 9 13:10:29 2006 Subject: [Publib] Filtered at the reference desk In-Reply-To: <20060509154202.4430E189AE5@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: Well, we had a surprise at the reference desk a couple of weeks ago. The city installed a new filtering system recently. While answering a question at the reference desk the other day, I found I was blocked from a website. Assuming this was a glitch because of the new system, I informed our IT department, assuming they would unfilter the librarians, at least. We had been unfiltered in the previous version of the web filter, although other city employees were using filtered access. The response we received back surprised me. We were told that librarians were supposed to be filtered, just like everyone else. When I informed them this makes it difficult to do our job, and that this was why the library was paying for most of the city's Internet connection through e-rate, the IT guy started grilling me on why it was our job to answer this or that question. Even after I attempted to educate him on the profession of librarianship and the mission of the library, he was unmoved. He said he would "think about it" and get back to me. That was almost three weeks ago. So, it is now above my pay grade. The library director is about to wade into battle over the issue with the powers that be. I told him I would try to get some background information for him from some of the listervs. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, how did you handle it? What were the results? Is anyone else out there facing this problem now? How are you dealing with it? Any input, pro or con, would be very helpful. --Jim Maroon jmaroon@cityof.lawton.ok.us Head of Public Services Dynix Administrator Lawton Public Library Lawton, OK From HardestyReference.26971593 at bloglines.com Tue May 9 11:59:17 2006 From: HardestyReference.26971593 at bloglines.com (HardestyReference.26971593@bloglines.com) Date: Tue May 9 13:10:31 2006 Subject: [Publib] 21st century job hunting question Message-ID: <1147190357.1422881602.5261.sendItem@bloglines.com> Deb- I have a response to your question that I'd rather not post on the public list, but mail I'm sending to dlmessling@hublib.lib.nj.us is being blocked at your end. If you are interested, please contact me at yoyology -AT- gmail -DOT- com or have your friend e-mail me there. Thank you. -Karl G. Siewert, MLIS - Hardesty Regional Library - Tulsa, OK From jrichmond at alphapark.org Tue May 9 12:06:49 2006 From: jrichmond at alphapark.org (John) Date: Tue May 9 13:10:33 2006 Subject: [Publib] Why librarianship, refuge, conflation, edges that are cutting, etc. Message-ID: Yes, Karen, you're right, I did conflate two more-or-less separate issues. I should be more careful about what my brain and fingers on the keyboard do, in concert or otherwise. I do, in fact, mean that it can be a good thing for libraries to provide some quiet spaces. I am not suggesting that "cutting edge" technology (I don't even know what a Flickr is, by the way...how have I missed it, and *lived*?) be eliminated, or the quest for quiet eliminate other services, cool and/or groovy library-provided atmospheres, et al. And...it seems to me as if whatever is hip, hot, cool, something we should all have if we don't want to be called dinosaurs, non-cutting-edge, etc., sometimes fits into the hyperactive, hyper-noisy society that bombards us with, well--hyperactivity and noisiness. Far too easily and well. Not all that is cutting-edge is noisy. But some helps promote the joy of Loud--people congregating at computers, people who use their cell phones as if they were the only people on the planet *and*, by the way, wouldn't it be nice if I let everyone around me in on the state of my bowel movements or the progress in my 3rd divorce? Therefore, it would be nice if there were some quiet spaces left in our libraries. And I know it's a changed world. (Someone else made this point.) I was reminded of that as I attended a musical-play-whatever at my child's school last night. Everyone was reverently silent as the superintendent welcomed attendees, courteously asked the audience to be as quiet as possible because the acoustics in the gym/auditorium aren't great, the kids had worked on their lines really hard and wanted to be heard--and as soon as the supt. put down the mike and the play began, constant talking and whispering and a steady stream/cloud/something of noise filled the gym from all over the place. The adults made as much noise as the very young children. Children "multitask" with the TV and computer on, while chatting--live, to the person next to them, and via computer chat rooms--and reading and studying, all at once, and it's not 1957, say--the year I went to kindergarten--anymore. So I know that hushed reverence is generally out, pass?, too weird for words. But. I still think there's a place for it. Even as we provide service to our adoring public. John D. Richmond, Director Alpha Park Public Library District 3527 So. Airport Road Bartonville, IL 61607 Ph: 309-697-3822, x. 12 Fax: 309-697-9681 Email: jrichmond@alphapark.org _______________________________________________ When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy.? -- Ludwig van Beethoven From Kwolicki at nileslibrary.org Tue May 9 12:30:59 2006 From: Kwolicki at nileslibrary.org (Kate Wolicki) Date: Tue May 9 13:10:34 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Sharing Weeded Titles Message-ID: In Illinois, we have library systems with weekly newsletters, websites, etc. In the North Suburban Library System, we post free materials available that we then send to other libraries on the ILL van (you can see this at http://www.nsls.info/news/issue.aspx, click Classifieds or Free/Wanted). You can check that site or have our newsletter sent to you. Does Michigan or your state library association have a site or newsletter that might need a Free Stuff section? I have heard of libraries that partner with another small library or two to share pricey reference books (you buy Weiss Mutual Funds every year, keep current issues and give us past issues, I'll buy Common Stocks, keep current and give you past issues). Would that work in Delton? It can get expensive to mail multivolume sets cross country, so I think a regional/local approach would work best. Kate Wolicki Niles Public Library District Niles, IL From sriley at wlsmail.org Tue May 9 12:30:47 2006 From: sriley at wlsmail.org (Susan Riley) Date: Tue May 9 13:10:35 2006 Subject: [Publib] re. ESL classes Message-ID: <4460C3B7.2070607@wlsmail.org> You had asked about ESL classes in the Library. My Library has been doing this for years, but it's arranged through the regional Board of Education. We do not charge them for use of our community room, and they hold 6 classes per week. It's kind of a hassle for my staff and cuts into the time I can offer programs held in that room (which is our only group meeting space), but my Board feels that this is an extremely important service and so do I. We store their equipment in our storage room and the teacher retrieves it as needed. They set up the room themselves with chairs & tables for each session, and do not request any special services except for occasional free photocopying. /Message: 14 Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 18:19:51 -0400 From: "Cox, Shelia" Subject: [Publib] ESL classes To: Message-ID: <2001738B124D374F9886EBD1239566C202EBEAF3@chaw03exh.poynerspruill.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'd be interesting to hear if any of you offer ESL classes at your library and if so, your experiences with doing so. I'd be happy to summarize for the list. Thanks. / Shelia Susan Riley -- Susan Riley, Library Director Mount Kisco Public Library 100 Main Street Mount Kisco, NY 10549 (p) 914-666-8041 (f) 914-666-3899 sriley@wlsmail.org From rkingcade at bcgov.net Tue May 9 13:07:42 2006 From: rkingcade at bcgov.net (Rachel Kingcade) Date: Tue May 9 13:10:36 2006 Subject: [Publib] 21st century job hunting question Message-ID: There was a recent article that mentioned this very thing, including the understanding that some firms/businesses are in fact using such information during the interview/hiring process. This article mentions just a few such occurrences: http://pcworld.about.com/news/Dec032004id118779.htm She should definitely be aware that it could be a factor. Rachel S. Kingcade, MLIS, Reference Librarian I Beaufort County Library, Beaufort Branch 311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902 843.470.6524 rkingcade@bcgov.net www.bcgov.net/library For Learning ? For Leisure ? For Life -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Deb Messling Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:08 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] 21st century job hunting question AI know a young person who has decided to get her MLS and pursue a career in youth services. She's already been accepted to grad school and is currently looking into various work-study options in public libraries. Being nosy, I Googled her name and came up with a myspace page that I suppose is no wilder than many other young people's pages, but certain entries definitely gave me pause. Do employers routinely Google job applicants these days? Should I counsel her to take down/edit her page? Do public libraries even care about their employees private lives? -- Deb Messling Phillipsburg Free Public Library 200 Frost Avenue Phillipsburg, NJ 08865 (908) 454-3712 dlmessling@hublib.lib.nj.us -- _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From loganrb at sbcglobal.net Tue May 9 13:25:01 2006 From: loganrb at sbcglobal.net (Robert L) Date: Tue May 9 13:48:15 2006 Subject: [Publib] Refuges Message-ID: <20060509172501.9130.qmail@web82308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ahhh, refuges... About four years ago, when I was a branch manager in another city, a patron approached me, and, shaking with emotion and voice breaking, told me how since she has been a little girl, that library branch had been her refuge from the world, and that now she brought her own small daughter to the same library to experience it as a "safe place". The cause of her strong emotion was that I had ruined the safe place for her and her daughter forever by creating a (very bland) display of books of interest to the LGBT community. (It was June, after all). Lest you should think that this was a dangerous neighborhood, I should tell you that it was very comfortably middle-class by any standard, and was reputed to be home to the second-largest concentration of gay and lesbian residents in the city. (Perhaps not, however, in view of their complete indifference to the display). We all need refuges, but yours may not be mine. Robert Logan Austin, TX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/d287ef38/attachment.htm From mehlers at grpl.org Tue May 9 13:25:06 2006 From: mehlers at grpl.org (Marla Ehlers) Date: Tue May 9 13:48:16 2006 Subject: [Publib] Don't dither! Have Your Day with Nancy Pearl, Fantastic Fiction 2006 Message-ID: <4460D072.9050809@grpl.org> Please excuse the cross-postings . . . Time's running out, and space is limited, so act now! Join the Public Library Division of the Michigan Library Association for an absolutely stellar Fantastic Fiction 2006--A Day with Nancy Pearl! The original Librarian Action Figure will present an all-day workshop on May 15 in Lansing, Michigan, on book clubs, promoting fiction collections, readers' advisory techniques and much, much more. For more information and to register, click on: http://www.mla.lib.mi.us/ Don't miss this wonderful opportunity to learn from a self-avowed luster-after-books! Marla -- Marla J. Ehlers mehlers@grpl.org Grand Rapids Public Library 111 Library St., Grand Rapids, MI 49503 T: 616/988-5402 x5460 F: 616/988-5422 __________ "O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!" -- Jabberwocky From stephanie at ssdesign.com Tue May 9 14:05:32 2006 From: stephanie at ssdesign.com (Stephanie Stokes) Date: Tue May 9 14:05:39 2006 Subject: [Publib] Friends group and ethics In-Reply-To: <20060509154205.6168C189AEF@lists.webjunction.org> Message-ID: Message: 5 Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 15:15:44 -0500 From: "Cynthia Hart" Subject: [Publib] Friends group and ethics >>>>Does ALA have any guidelines about the ethics of Friends groups? <<<<<<< **** Friend's prez also a Library Board Member? CONFLICT of INTEREST. The Texas State Library has a Handbook Online See: http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ld/pubs/plant/chone.html **** Why don't you print out copies of the Handbook for all the library board members. Put them in 3 ring binders and put them in their library cubby holes or have the at each seat at the next meeting. >>>>> Every week, we show a movie as a fundraiser. ***** At .25 cents X 30 seats? That is not a fundraiser! ***** Did the FOL or the Library pay for a "Public Performance Site License" at the level required to charge admission? see: http://www.movlic.com/ >>>> My employees are expected to show the movie, sell candy and popcorn, collect the money, shop for snacks, etc. on Library time. I have to schedule an extra person on Saturdays to do this, which cuts into my salaries budget. It doesn't seem quite right to me. <<<<<< ***** It is not right and the FOL needs to have their "Fund-raising Committee" on hand and doing all these jobs. After all -- it is their event and what better way to also "Friend-raise" for new members. ***** But then at $5.oo member dues? The object of member dues is to support the FOL not support the members. Add up the cost of postage stamps, printing of flyers, renewal notices with return envelopes, etc ??? How can they afford to operate the FOL? Ahhhh the library staff ***** Make of budget of the money being spent on Food, Movie License, Flyers/Handouts, Insurance, etc. Also include what it "costs to Staff" the event as well as the time you take someone off the desk to do the shopping. ***** I think you will discover it's not making money. But is a nice way to get folks in the library. Maybe the library should take it over. Ahhh but then you would have to take the Budget the Library Board. ***** Like I said, "CONFLICT of INTEREST" .... Stephanie Stokes, California From jneff at olatheks.org Tue May 9 14:24:13 2006 From: jneff at olatheks.org (Joshua Neff) Date: Tue May 9 14:24:22 2006 Subject: [Publib] re: Libraries as refuges (was Why Librarianship?) In-Reply-To: <20060509122545.50204.qmail@web36603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <007201c67395$c8cd31d0$2a02a8c0@olathe.lib.ks.us> That's brilliant. Thanks for posting that. --Joshua M. Neff Indian Creek Branch Olathe Public Library -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of george bergstrom Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:26 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] re: Libraries as refuges (was Why Librarianship?) First I would like to say that I always enjoy reading Joe Schallan's posts (in fact I have printed and hanging on my bulletin board the post about winging the director with a stray round while preventing the public from going behind our desks...) They are both humorous and thought provoking. However, as the world speeds past us towards some sort new digital future I have to think that part of our mission should be helping the public adjust to that future. In my last job at a public library I worked very closely with the computer lab and its staff. We got to know several of our regulars quite well. One in particular always sticks with me, I'll call her RW. Now I don't know the full life story of RW, so she may have been born a reader but I do know that she was not born using computers. She has had a fairly had life (at least three children that I know of and now father figure to speak of...) and she began coming in to the library I think in search of the refuge that several have posted about recently. But over the months (and eventually) years, she has taught herself MS Word and Publisher as well as general web skills (searching, email, etc.) and began writing poetry. She now uses the library to write, layout, print, and 'publish' a poetry magazine about once a month and sells them in her neighborhood. She has even submitted her poetry to on-line poetry contests and has won a few. None of this would have been possible without first the library having computers and second the dedicated staff that over the years helped teach RW how to use the computers. So while we may not have made a reader from a non-reader, we certainly helped empower her literary tendencies that may not have had a chance to survive with out the library... George __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From cadams at pls.lib.ok.us Tue May 9 14:24:54 2006 From: cadams at pls.lib.ok.us (Cathy Adams) Date: Tue May 9 14:24:57 2006 Subject: [Publib] RE: What Librarians Do Message-ID: <200605091324.AA118358164@MAIL.pls.lib.ok.us> A BIG thanks to Adrienne Canty for the following link. http :// www.winnefox.org/trusteetale/spring2004.pdf This is exactly what I am looking for. Cathy Cathy Adams, MLIS Teen Services Librarian Moore Public Library ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at MAIL.pls.lib.ok.us From cjo at elkhart.lib.in.us Tue May 9 14:25:32 2006 From: cjo at elkhart.lib.in.us (Connie Jo Ozinga) Date: Tue May 9 14:25:37 2006 Subject: [Publib] sharing weeded titles Message-ID: Here in Indiana libraries with usable books - especially barely outdated reference editions - post their availability on our INCOLSA network email list. We also see various other things such as printer cartridges. Items are first come first gets it, and the recipient library must be on the INCOLSA Wheels delivery system. ALSO I WISH TO REMIND YOU that if your email message is in html it shows up COMPLETELY BLANK in the digest version, all we digest readers get to see is the header. This includes every single message sent by Sue Kamm and Dave Ewick, as well as many others. If you use Outlook it is very easy to tag your address book listing for publib to send text email only. Then all of us can read it. And no, changing to single messages instead of digest is not the way to fix this. I've complained about this before, to no avail, but I am feeling unusually optimistic today. Connie Connie Jo Ozinga, Director cjo@elkhart.lib.in.us (574)522-3333 www.elkhart.lib.in.us Elkhart Public Library Elkhart, IN 46516 The Elkhart Public Library provides access to resources which inform, educate, enlighten and entertain our diverse community.....Books are just the beginning. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/e27a7f43/attachment.htm From court1824 at gmail.com Tue May 9 14:30:25 2006 From: court1824 at gmail.com (Courtney Stephens) Date: Tue May 9 14:30:32 2006 Subject: [Publib] Book Selection Room In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I noticed you posted this to PUBLIB about a week ago as well. I'm afraid your question may not be clear enough to get the responses you were hoping for. What, exactly, is a "librarians book selection room"? ~Courtney S. On 5/7/06, Danielle M. Walsh wrote: > > Hi PUBLIB: > > Recently my Library made the decision to close the Librarians book selection > room. What are some of your opinions on this? J librarians often have > issues with reading levels, what if any opinions do you all have with this > factor? > > Any input will be helpful. > Thanks > > > Danielle M. Walsh > > _______________________________________________ > Publib mailing list > Publib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > > > > From hollise at hotmail.com Tue May 9 14:34:44 2006 From: hollise at hotmail.com (Hollis McCright) Date: Tue May 9 14:34:51 2006 Subject: [Publib] Thank you and more ethics problems Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/0a27e1e2/attachment.htm From Regalado at brooklyn.cuny.edu Tue May 9 15:02:08 2006 From: Regalado at brooklyn.cuny.edu (Mariana Regalado) Date: Tue May 9 15:01:38 2006 Subject: [Publib] Call for Papers - Library Philosophy and Practice Message-ID: <6F70906B3EB0D311845900508B937A520B822602@gemini.brooklyn.cuny.edu> Please excuse cross-postings. CALL FOR PAPERS You are invited to submit proposals and manuscripts for a special issue of _Library Philosophy and Practice_ entitled: "Shape Shifters: Librarians Evolve Yet Again in the Age of Google." The issue, which will appear in Winter 2007, will be guest edited by Jill Cirasella and Mariana Regalado of Brooklyn College, City University of New York. Librarians have a long history of responding professionally and creatively to changes in information dissemination technology. It is no surprise, therefore, that they are adapting themselves and their work to Google, its many modules, and its many competitors. Articles in "Shape Shifters" will explore how library services, resources, and job activities are changing in response to these tools and the paradigm shift they herald. Manuscripts are sought that examine concrete changes in a specific area or issue of public, school, academic, or special librarianship. Possible areas or issues include, but are not limited to: - Reference - Instruction - Collection development - Technical services - Access services - Rare books and/or preservation - Privacy - Website and interface design - Space planning - Administration and personnel - Marketing Whatever area or issue is examined, authors should discuss how changes in services, resources, and/or job activities are being facilitated or even necessitated by one or more of three critical aspects of these tools: 1) Ease of access 2) Proliferation of content 3) Independence from traditional library staff and spaces Articles should be concise, well-reasoned, and focused on the practice and philosophy of librarianship. While some professional speculation is welcome, authors are discouraged from writing diatribes, manifestos, or calls-to-arms about Google or its competitors. The submission deadline for completed manuscripts is October 20, 2006. Authors are encouraged to contact the guest editors with proposals or questions. Manuscript length is flexible but should normally fall between 1,500 and 4,000 words. Please email word-processed manuscripts in MLA format to Mariana Regalado (regalado@brooklyn.cuny.edu) and Jill Cirasella (cirasella@brooklyn.cuny.edu). _Library Philosophy and Practice_ is a peer-reviewed electronic journal that explores the connection between library practice and the philosophy and theory behind it. To learn more about _Library Philosophy and Practice_, visit: http://libr.unl.edu:2000/LPP/lpp.htm. --Mariana __________________________ Professor Mariana Regalado Brooklyn College Library Regalado@brooklyn.cuny.edu (718) 758-8215 From phenriksen at neflin.org Tue May 9 15:12:58 2006 From: phenriksen at neflin.org (Phalbe Henriksen) Date: Tue May 9 15:15:38 2006 Subject: [Publib] RE: What Librarians Do In-Reply-To: <200605091324.AA118358164@MAIL.pls.lib.ok.us> References: <200605091324.AA118358164@MAIL.pls.lib.ok.us> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060509151223.01f659f8@neflin.org> Shouldn't that be "counsel" instead of "council" on the first line? Phalbe Henriksen At 02:24 PM 5/9/2006, Cathy Adams wrote: >A BIG thanks to Adrienne Canty for the following link. > >http :// www.winnefox.org/trusteetale/spring2004.pdf > >This is exactly what I am looking for. > >Cathy > >Cathy Adams, MLIS >Teen Services Librarian >Moore Public Library From MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org Tue May 9 15:22:37 2006 From: MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org (Mary J. Soucie) Date: Tue May 9 15:23:23 2006 Subject: [Publib] Fighting burnout and cynicism Message-ID: <35A3685E8502B5428734A99EDA6E5E5120D3B6@server.wilmingtonlibrary.org> I often get more burned out from dealing with petty staff issues than with the patrons. Working with the patrons rejuvenates me and reminds me why I became a librarian. Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/2df14ff0/attachment.htm From ChatterboxPurple at aol.com Tue May 9 15:29:28 2006 From: ChatterboxPurple at aol.com (ChatterboxPurple@aol.com) Date: Tue May 9 15:29:50 2006 Subject: [Publib] RE: What Librarians Do Message-ID: <2d9.76421ea.31924798@aol.com> I got an error when I clicked on the link. Can someone please send me the .PDF? TIA Deborah M. Information Broker In a message dated 5/9/2006 3:26:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, phenriksen@neflin.org writes: Shouldn't that be "counsel" instead of "council" on the first line? Phalbe Henriksen At 02:24 PM 5/9/2006, Cathy Adams wrote: >A BIG thanks to Adrienne Canty for the following link. > >http :// www.winnefox.org/trusteetale/spring2004.pdf > >This is exactly what I am looking for. > >Cathy > >Cathy Adams, MLIS >Teen Services Librarian >Moore Public Library _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib Stuff a friend Consultant http://www.stuffafriend.com/shop.php?frizzie Beauty Consultant Beverley's Naturals. _http://beverleysnaturals.com/store/affiliate.asp?aff=200620_ (http://beverleysnaturals.com/store/affiliate.asp?aff=200620) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/6ac2743f/attachment.htm From ghazelton at mail.henry.public.lib.ga.us Tue May 9 15:57:30 2006 From: ghazelton at mail.henry.public.lib.ga.us (George Hazelton) Date: Tue May 9 15:57:39 2006 Subject: [Publib] Refuges In-Reply-To: <20060509172501.9130.qmail@web82308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00c401c673a2$ce63c8e0$4101a8c0@HCLSGHAZELTON> Sad to say, libraries are no longer (if in truth they ever were) a "safe" place. I cringe when I hear a non-library person refer to a library as a safe place. We have too many people who drop their small children off at our facilities while they go shopping, or whatever. Would that the danger of her small daughter being exposed to LGBT materials were the only "hazard" at your or any other library. True refuges are a state of mind as much as anything else. George Hazelton Assistant Director Henry County Library System 1001 Florence McGarity Pkwy McDonough, GA 30252 Phone: 770-954-2806 FAX: 770-954-2808 email: ghazelton@mail.henry.public.lib.ga.us _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Robert L Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:25 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Refuges Ahhh, refuges... About four years ago, when I was a branch manager in another city, a patron approached me, and, shaking with emotion and voice breaking, told me how since she has been a little girl, that library branch had been her refuge from the world, and that now she brought her own small daughter to the same library to experience it as a "safe place". The cause of her strong emotion was that I had ruined the safe place for her and her daughter forever by creating a (very bland) display of books of interest to the LGBT community. (It was June, after all). Lest you should think that this was a dangerous neighborhood, I should tell you that it was very comfortably middle-class by any standard, and was reputed to be home to the second-largest concentration of gay and lesbian residents in the city. (Perhaps not, however, in view of their complete indifference to the display). We all need refuges, but yours may not be mine. Robert Logan Austin, TX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/92a7f459/attachment.htm From ssalomone at metro.org Tue May 9 15:59:40 2006 From: ssalomone at metro.org (Susan Salomone) Date: Tue May 9 16:00:57 2006 Subject: [Publib] New METRO Magnet Posting: Library Director (Montclair Public Library) Message-ID: <554357B7B96BAA49804958495975A7DD91D464@ceres.metro.org> Please excuse cross-postings. This message is being posted to multiple lists. Gossage Sager Associates recently posted a METRO Magnet announcement for the Director of the Montclair Public Library. The METRO Magnet is the online job bank and career center maintained by the Metropolitan New York Library Council (www.metro.org). For more information about the position and the application process, please see the announcement at http://metrojobs.metro.org?a=j&ID=KC4SSKRZ24 . Other jobs and RSS subscription information may be found by visiting the METRO Magnet home page at www.metro.org/magnet. Please note that the RSS feed is now at http://mercury.metro.org/rss/AK5B-latestposting.xml. Susan Salomone ssalomone@metro.org METRO Magnet Project Manager Metropolitan New York Library Council From Adelaide.Rowe at egvpl.org Tue May 9 16:14:54 2006 From: Adelaide.Rowe at egvpl.org (Adelaide Rowe) Date: Tue May 9 16:23:00 2006 Subject: [Publib] Job description approval Message-ID: Our staff and director create, edit, etc, but the Board approves them. Adelaide Rowe Head of Youth Services Elk Grove Village Public Library Elk Grove Village, IL 60007 arowe@egvpl.org ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org on behalf of Mary J. Soucie Sent: Mon 5/8/2006 3:18 PM To: publics@mailman.palsnet.info; publib@webjunction.org Cc: Mary Jane Kepner Subject: [Publib] Job description approval Hello everyone, Please excuse the cross posting. Can you please tell me if your Board approves your job descriptions or if the director has sole responsibility for creating, editing, and changing, etc. job descriptions? Thank you in advance, Mary Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org From jcasey at oaklawnlibrary.org Tue May 9 17:00:16 2006 From: jcasey at oaklawnlibrary.org (James Casey) Date: Tue May 9 16:52:57 2006 Subject: [Publib] Fighting burnout and cynicism Message-ID: <8AA02A9678BBCC4CB603305A2E4C334E13E0CB@spartan2.oaklawnlib.local> At Circulation Desks, where angry patrons dispute fines and threaten staff with retribution, the stress levels may be considerably higher than at other desks where one is able to "help" rather than disseminate bad news. Whenever I am called to deal with an "irate patron" it is usually the result of some interaction at the Circulation Desk. One of the approaches I am considering for reduction of stress levels at the Circulation Desk is to push for the adoption of software that would enable patrons to access their borrower records online and use credit or debit card to pay their fines. The technology is already available --- and has been for a while --- but not immediately so with our consortium ILS. I am increasingly convinced that 50% of the unhappiness of patrons paying fines and penalties at the Circulation Desk is the result of the inconvenience of the patron who has had to travel and spend time dealing with a "penalty related" transaction that could more easily and painlessly be dealt with online. James B. Casey --- My own views ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Mary J. Soucie Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:23 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Publib] Fighting burnout and cynicism I often get more burned out from dealing with petty staff issues than with the patrons. Working with the patrons rejuvenates me and reminds me why I became a librarian. Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Stephen Sarazin Technical Services and Systems Librarian Albany County Public Library Laramie, WY http://acpl.lib.wy.us ssarazin@will.state.wy.us (307) 721-2580 ext. 5432 From blushresponse.6280419 at bloglines.com Tue May 9 18:31:13 2006 From: blushresponse.6280419 at bloglines.com (blushresponse.6280419@bloglines.com) Date: Tue May 9 18:31:16 2006 Subject: [Publib] Print management alternatives, hardware and software Message-ID: <1147213873.1725009686.25120.sendItem@bloglines.com> Hi, We are currently using Vendprint, and a very rickety old cash-acceptor machine for patrons to print and pay for printing in our library. The cash-acceptor machine is on its last legs. Vendprint quoted us $2000 for a new machine and they've also increased the yearly license fee. We use Vendprint because it's relatively simple. We just want a system where patrons can send jobs to the printer, and pay for them with cash. We don't need or want card-acceptance, reservation management, or any of the other more complex stuff that comes bundled these days. What are other folks doing? Is Vendprint the best system for these kind of simple needs? Are there other vendors to get the hardware from? Thanks! Stephen Sarazin Technical Services and Systems Librarian Albany County Public Library Laramie, WY http://acpl.lib.wy.us ssarazin@will.state.wy.us (307) 721-2580 ext. 5432 From Stephen.Pomes at mms.gov Tue May 9 18:33:47 2006 From: Stephen.Pomes at mms.gov (Pomes, Stephen) Date: Tue May 9 18:33:52 2006 Subject: [Publib] Duplicate and discarded publications available to other libraries Message-ID: <82ABF19AC0F67D40A0E2B2F5949BE8E203890FFB@IMSNEXPRI02.service.agency.mms.pri> I've updated the list of duplicate and discarded publications, and we're giving them away to other libraries. These publications are available at no charge. Postage reimbursement is not required. Send all requests to: Lee.Adams@mms.gov To see a complete list of the discard titles, please visit this webpage - http://www.geocities.com/stephen_v_pomes/ Stephen V. Pomes, Librarian U.S. Dept. of the Interior Minerals Management Service - Library 1201 Elmwood Park Blvd., MS 5031 New Orleans, La. 70123 Telephone: 504-736-2521 Fax: 504-736-2525 E-Mail: stephen.pomes@mms.gov +++++++++++++++++ Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily correspond to those of my employer. +++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/6de73797/attachment.htm From lchlebanowski at avondale.org Tue May 9 19:06:23 2006 From: lchlebanowski at avondale.org (Lise Chlebanowski) Date: Tue May 9 19:06:26 2006 Subject: [Publib] Filtered at the reference desk Message-ID: Been there! And still there...our access is filtered even to the point of not being able to access electronic databases because of firewalls. Our IT is city oriented, not library oriented and therein lies the problem. I take reference questions home quite frequently and research them there. Sad, isn't it? Lis? Chlebanowski Library Manager Avondale Public Library 328 W. Western Ave. Avondale, AZ 85323 623-478-3105 -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Jim Maroon Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 9:47 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Filtered at the reference desk Well, we had a surprise at the reference desk a couple of weeks ago. The city installed a new filtering system recently. While answering a question at the reference desk the other day, I found I was blocked from a website. Assuming this was a glitch because of the new system, I informed our IT department, assuming they would unfilter the librarians, at least. We had been unfiltered in the previous version of the web filter, although other city employees were using filtered access. The response we received back surprised me. We were told that librarians were supposed to be filtered, just like everyone else. When I informed them this makes it difficult to do our job, and that this was why the library was paying for most of the city's Internet connection through e-rate, the IT guy started grilling me on why it was our job to answer this or that question. Even after I attempted to educate him on the profession of librarianship and the mission of the library, he was unmoved. He said he would "think about it" and get back to me. That was almost three weeks ago. So, it is now above my pay grade. The library director is about to wade into battle over the issue with the powers that be. I told him I would try to get some background information for him from some of the listervs. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, how did you handle it? What were the results? Is anyone else out there facing this problem now? How are you dealing with it? Any input, pro or con, would be very helpful. --Jim Maroon jmaroon@cityof.lawton.ok.us Head of Public Services Dynix Administrator Lawton Public Library Lawton, OK _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From cpaulson8 at juno.com Tue May 9 19:28:09 2006 From: cpaulson8 at juno.com (Carl F Paulson) Date: Tue May 9 19:25:34 2006 Subject: [Publib] Programs by area businesses Message-ID: <20060509.192809.800.2.cpaulson8@juno.com> In a former job, we had several programs provided by local businesses. My personal favorite was the one we called "Best Fishes," which was presented by the owner of a local fish market. He told people how to buy and prepare good fish. Unfortunately, he did not bring samples. But we still drew a good crowd. The ones we would not have again were either chiropractors or multilevel marketing companies. We found that chiropractors do not draw well. And multilevel marketers seem to have trouble avoiding trying to recruit at the program. You can tell them not to recruit, but you need to watch them. If they use either the word "downline" or the phrase "it's a good company" they are probably multilevel. Some refer to themselves as "network marketers" but only the name changes. This is a polite list. Email me directly for a more plainspoken term for the euphemism. Perhaps this will help. On Tue, 9 May 2006 09:10:39 -0500 "Ann Brown" writes: At my former library we had people from Lowe’s and Home Depot come to do programs on basic home repairs, such as replacing a faucet. I’m pretty sure the programs didn’t cost the library anything, (except some coffee and cookies), but I don’t think they were very well attended. Ann Brown Director Duncan Public Library Duncan, OK -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Diane Hamilton Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:47 AM To: Publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Programs by area businesses I sent this last week but only received one response so I thought I would try again…. At Computers in Library someone talked about having area businesses come into the library and do training. One example was Best Buy doing training on mp3 players and other “gadgets.” I thought I read somewhere (not sure if it was here) about Home Depot and Lowe’s going into a libraries and offering different programs. We don’t have a Best Buy in our county – although there is one in a neighboring county – so I was curious if other libraries did this. And if so, what companies have offered this type of thing. I promise to summarize and share the responses I get. Thanks for your help, Diane Hamilton Cape May County Library -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/0b3c6ec4/attachment.htm From lchlebanowski at avondale.org Tue May 9 19:38:03 2006 From: lchlebanowski at avondale.org (Lise Chlebanowski) Date: Tue May 9 19:38:06 2006 Subject: [Publib] Book Selection Room Message-ID: Thanks! I was going to ask the same thing, but I thought I was missing something everyone else got! We should have a contest and guess. I think it's the room where they keep the advanced reading copies! Lis? Chlebanowski Library Manager Avondale Public Library 328 W. Western Ave. Avondale, AZ 85323 623-478-3105 -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Courtney Stephens Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:30 AM To: Danielle M. Walsh Cc: publib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Publib] Book Selection Room I noticed you posted this to PUBLIB about a week ago as well. I'm afraid your question may not be clear enough to get the responses you were hoping for. What, exactly, is a "librarians book selection room"? ~Courtney S. On 5/7/06, Danielle M. Walsh wrote: > > Hi PUBLIB: > > Recently my Library made the decision to close the Librarians book selection > room. What are some of your opinions on this? J librarians often have > issues with reading levels, what if any opinions do you all have with this > factor? > > Any input will be helpful. > Thanks > > > Danielle M. Walsh > > _______________________________________________ > Publib mailing list > Publib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > > > > _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From cfong at ci.upland.ca.us Tue May 9 20:13:46 2006 From: cfong at ci.upland.ca.us (Celeste Fong) Date: Tue May 9 20:13:55 2006 Subject: [Publib] Programs by area businesses Message-ID: <753755F36E410D4D80F678BF174558C8D8234E@uplmail.ci.upland.ca.us> We have a monthly "Meet the Expert" program at our Library. Our most popular speaker this past year was a colleague from another library who talked about how to buy and sell on eBay. Another well-attended program was a professional organizer who gave a presentation about organizing your home. Next month a salesperson from Barbecues Galore, who happens to be Library patron, will talk about how to choose and use a barbecue. These are one-hour programs on a Saturday afternoon, and attendance varies depending on the subject. We drew a lot of non-library users last month when the owner of a solar panel manufacturing company talked about using solar energy in the home. Celeste M. Fong Principal Librarian Upland Public Library 450 North Euclid Ave. Upland, CA Phone: 909-931-4202 Fax: 909-931-4209 cfong@ci.upland.ca.us ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Carl F Paulson Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:28 PM To: abrown@duncan.lib.ok.us Cc: Dianeh@cape-may.county.lib.nj.us; Publib@webjunction.org Subject: Re: [Publib] Programs by area businesses In a former job, we had several programs provided by local businesses. My personal favorite was the one we called "Best Fishes," which was presented by the owner of a local fish market. He told people how to buy and prepare good fish. Unfortunately, he did not bring samples. But we still drew a good crowd. The ones we would not have again were either chiropractors or multilevel marketing companies. We found that chiropractors do not draw well. And multilevel marketers seem to have trouble avoiding trying to recruit at the program. You can tell them not to recruit, but you need to watch them. If they use either the word "downline" or the phrase "it's a good company" they are probably multilevel. Some refer to themselves as "network marketers" but only the name changes. This is a polite list. Email me directly for a more plainspoken term for the euphemism. Perhaps this will help. On Tue, 9 May 2006 09:10:39 -0500 "Ann Brown" writes: At my former library we had people from Lowe's and Home Depot come to do programs on basic home repairs, such as replacing a faucet. I'm pretty sure the programs didn't cost the library anything, (except some coffee and cookies), but I don't think they were very well attended. Ann Brown Director Duncan Public Library Duncan, OK -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Diane Hamilton Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:47 AM To: Publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Programs by area businesses I sent this last week but only received one response so I thought I would try again.... At Computers in Library someone talked about having area businesses come into the library and do training. One example was Best Buy doing training on mp3 players and other "gadgets." I thought I read somewhere (not sure if it was here) about Home Depot and Lowe's going into a libraries and offering different programs. We don't have a Best Buy in our county - although there is one in a neighboring county - so I was curious if other libraries did this. And if so, what companies have offered this type of thing. I promise to summarize and share the responses I get. Thanks for your help, Diane Hamilton Cape May County Library -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060509/7410fc5e/attachment.htm From deanej at carrollsweb.com Wed May 10 08:06:00 2006 From: deanej at carrollsweb.com (Jim Deane) Date: Wed May 10 08:06:21 2006 Subject: [Publib] Time-lapse/stop-action cameras In-Reply-To: <1147213838.3415244815.1587.sendItem@bloglines.com> References: <1147213838.3415244815.1587.sendItem@bloglines.com> Message-ID: <4461D728.6010702@carrollsweb.com> You could use a standard webcam (very low cost) and a program such as PhotoLapse 2.0: http://home.hccnet.nl/s.vd.palen/index.html to take time lapse photography and then convert the images to a video. It is a fairly robust program which has worked fine on my Windows XP Pro system using an old Intel USB camera. If you catch a sale, you might be able to do this on a budget of less than $30. Jim blushresponse.6280419@bloglines.com wrote: >Hi, > >We'd like some stop action cameras to check up on how people use our >library. Some of our staff saw Paco Underhill's talk at PLA and are interested >in monitoring how our layout works for people. I know some digital cameras >can do this. VCR-based security camera systems could also do something similar... >and there are camera systems specifically for this. Does anyone have any >thoughts on what the best option for this would be? (Short-term, low-cost..) > > >Thanks! > >Stephen Sarazin >Technical Services and Systems Librarian >Albany >County Public Library >Laramie, WY >http://acpl.lib.wy.us >ssarazin@will.state.wy.us > >(307) 721-2580 ext. 5432 > >_______________________________________________ >Publib mailing list >Publib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > > > > From scenic3 at real.more.net Wed May 10 08:31:40 2006 From: scenic3 at real.more.net (Carolyn Scheer) Date: Wed May 10 08:31:42 2006 Subject: [Publib] Book Selection Room In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.1.20060510072021.01d69010@pop.real.more.net> I was puzzled too! Our 'book selection room' consists of whichever big comfy chair at your home that you try to stay awake in while reading book reviews at night. After the BS people have finished the pile of Kirkuses, LJs, etc, they go to whichever computer is available to submit electronic book orders to B&T. The only rooms in our library that serve a single function are the restrooms! At 06:38 PM 5/9/2006, you wrote: >Thanks! I was going to ask the same thing, but I >thought I was missing something everyone else >got! We should have a contest and guess. I think >it's the room where they keep the advanced reading copies! > >Lis? Chlebanowski >Library Manager >Avondale Public Library >328 W. Western Ave. >Avondale, AZ 85323 >623-478-3105 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org >[mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Courtney Stephens >Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:30 AM >To: Danielle M. Walsh >Cc: publib@webjunction.org >Subject: Re: [Publib] Book Selection Room > >I noticed you posted this to PUBLIB about a week ago as well. I'm >afraid your question may not be clear enough to get the responses you >were hoping for. > >What, exactly, is a "librarians book selection room"? > >~Courtney S. > >On 5/7/06, Danielle M. Walsh wrote: > > > > Hi PUBLIB: > > > > Recently my Library made the decision to > close the Librarians book selection > > room. What are some of your opinions on this? J librarians often have > > issues with reading levels, what if any opinions do you all have with this > > factor? > > > > Any input will be helpful. > > Thanks > > > > > > Danielle M. Walsh > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publib mailing list > > Publib@webjunction.org > > http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ From sorange at ala.org Wed May 10 10:42:06 2006 From: sorange at ala.org (Satia Orange) Date: Wed May 10 10:42:30 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: 2006 Joint Conference for bookmobile, outreach services & rural & small librarians Message-ID: >>> m.kaeckmeister@VLC.LIB.MI.US 5/10/2006 8:44 AM >>> Good Morning, It is my pleasure to announce that the 2006 Joint ABOS/ARSL (Association of Bookmobile & Outreach Services/Association of Rural& Small Libraries) Conference program is nearly complete and you may begin registering. The conference program and registration information can be accessed at the following website: http://jupiter.clarion.edu/~csrl/great.htm The conference committee is still in the process of confirming a few speakers. The program will be updated when those speakers are confirmed. If you have questions, please contact me directly at the email address listed below. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing you at the conference. Marilyn E. Kaeckmeister Department Head, Bookmobile and Outreach Services Bay County Library System 311 Germania Bay City, Michigan 48706-5056 phone: 989.895.8383, ext. 200 fax: 989.894.8031 email: m.kaeckmeister@vlc.lib.mi.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/70e53ef4/attachment.htm From kknight at granvillecounty.org Wed May 10 11:49:41 2006 From: kknight at granvillecounty.org (Katie Knight) Date: Wed May 10 11:49:49 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Librarians, Let me begin by saying that I love this list, and have learned a lot from participating in this online community. Today, I have a question that, as it concerns religion, may be a touchy subject for some. But, I do need some guidance and look forward to hearing what you all have to say on the matter. Here's my situation: I'm the reference librarian for a small public library in rural North Carolina. Several of the patrons in my library like to express their religious opinions to me, often in a very intense way. This makes me very uncomfortable, however I don't really know how to respond. I respect their beliefs and their right to have these beliefs, but I don't wish to dialogue with them about their beleifs or be put in a situation while I'm at work where I may have to defend my own beliefs. So far I've decided to remain silent when I'm addressed about religion (as a personal topic, I mean...reference questions about religion are, of course, answered as thoroughly as any other question would be). But, today, someone got a little pushy (a preacher, he wanted to tell me about the 10 commandments...). He had good intentions, clearly, but still, I felt uncomfortable, and didn't know how to respond to intense, well, preaching, while I was sitting at the reference desk. This is not the first time that this has happened, nor is he the first patron to attempt to give me religious guidance while I'm at work. Is there a good, diplomatic way to respond to this sort of behavior? I want to remain as respectful as possible, and am at a loss as to how to address these kind of situations. Thanks, everyone, -Katie Katie Knight Adult Services Librarian Granville County Public Library System Thornton Library 210 Main Street Oxford, NC 27565 Phone: 919 693-1121 Fax: 919 693-2244 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The patron may still be offended (some religious folks consider it entirely appropriate to talk to complete strangers about religion), but that's the patron's problem, not yours. You shouldn't be expected to accept sexual harrassment, so why accept any other harrassment? --Joshua M. Neff Indian Creek Branch Olathe Public Library _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Katie Knight Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:50 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library Hello Librarians, Let me begin by saying that I love this list, and have learned a lot from participating in this online community. Today, I have a question that, as it concerns religion, may be a touchy subject for some. But, I do need some guidance and look forward to hearing what you all have to say on the matter. Here's my situation: I'm the reference librarian for a small public library in rural North Carolina. Several of the patrons in my library like to express their religious opinions to me, often in a very intense way. This makes me very uncomfortable, however I don't really know how to respond. I respect their beliefs and their right to have these beliefs, but I don't wish to dialogue with them about their beleifs or be put in a situation while I'm at work where I may have to defend my own beliefs. So far I've decided to remain silent when I'm addressed about religion (as a personal topic, I mean...reference questions about religion are, of course, answered as thoroughly as any other question would be). But, today, someone got a little pushy (a preacher, he wanted to tell me about the 10 commandments...). He had good intentions, clearly, but still, I felt uncomfortable, and didn't know how to respond to intense, well, preaching, while I was sitting at the reference desk. This is not the first time that this has happened, nor is he the first patron to attempt to give me religious guidance while I'm at work. Is there a good, diplomatic way to respond to this sort of behavior? I want to remain as respectful as possible, and am at a loss as to how to address these kind of situations. Thanks, everyone, -Katie Katie Knight Adult Services Librarian Granville County Public Library System Thornton Library 210 Main Street Oxford, NC 27565 Phone: 919 693-1121 Fax: 919 693-2244 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/cf5a6b59/attachment.htm From katnip59 at aol.com Wed May 10 12:57:14 2006 From: katnip59 at aol.com (katnip59@aol.com) Date: Wed May 10 13:22:53 2006 Subject: [Publib] Stumper - poem Message-ID: <8C84269EC0DAC11-1AA8-767@MBLK-R07.sysops.aol.com> This may be a long shot. A patron is looking for a poem in which she believes the phrase "seasons of hate" is used. The phrase would refer to the times in a relationship or marriage when you "hate" your partner. Does this ring any bells? Looking for the title, the text and the author. Thanks! Katie Bunn, Teen Services Librarian kbunn@farmingtonlibct.org 860-673-6791 Farmington Library, 6 Monteith Drive Farmington, CT 06032 We read to know we are not alone. -- C.S. Lewis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/47ec0869/attachment.htm From dale.mcneill at gmail.com Wed May 10 13:10:56 2006 From: dale.mcneill at gmail.com (Dale McNeill) Date: Wed May 10 13:22:55 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library In-Reply-To: <001d01c6744b$7c1b7020$3f02a8c0@olathe.lib.ks.us> References: <001d01c6744b$7c1b7020$3f02a8c0@olathe.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: <69cd9c750605101010j7dd60e47obb6e5812da0afcf@mail.gmail.com> Great suggestions. I also try to get the patron to "what's your library question?" with something like "I understand that this is important to you, but I'd really like to focus on the service you need from the library today. Can I help you find a specific book?" It's very tough in some parts of the country where talking about faith is as culturally appropriate to many people as talking about the weather. Dale On 5/10/06, Joshua Neff wrote: > > First of all, I know how you feel. I've had some patrons get a bit pushy > with the religious questioning, too. I generally just deflect it as best I > can ("Do you go to church?" "Not around here." "Oh, you go to a church in > another part of town?" "No..."). But it is hard sometimes. > > So, think on this: what if a patron started asking you about your > politics? Or about your sex life? What if a patron asked you for your home > phone number? Or asked how much you were paid? In other words, how would you > handle a patron engaging you in inappropriate conversation? Be polite, but > be firm: you don't consider this to be appropriate. The patron may still be > offended (some religious folks consider it entirely appropriate to talk to > complete strangers about religion), but that's the patron's problem, not > yours. You shouldn't be expected to accept sexual harrassment, so why accept > any other harrassment? > > > --Joshua M. Neff > Indian Creek Branch > Olathe Public Library > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto: > publib-bounces@webjunction.org] *On Behalf Of *Katie Knight > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:50 AM > *To:* publib@webjunction.org > *Subject:* [Publib] Religion at the library > > > Hello Librarians, > > Let me begin by saying that I love this list, and have learned a lot from > participating in this online community. Today, I have a question that, as > it concerns religion, may be a touchy subject for some. But, I do need some > guidance and look forward to hearing what you all have to say on the matter. > > Here's my situation: I'm the reference librarian for a small public > library in rural North Carolina. Several of the patrons in my library like > to express their religious opinions to me, often in a very intense way. > This makes me very uncomfortable, however I don't really know how to > respond. I respect their beliefs and their right to have these beliefs, but > I don't wish to dialogue with them about their beleifs or be put in a > situation while I'm at work where I may have to defend my own beliefs. > > So far I've decided to remain silent when I'm addressed about religion (as > a personal topic, I mean...reference questions about religion are, of > course, answered as thoroughly as any other question would be). But, today, > someone got a little pushy (a preacher, he wanted to tell me about the 10 > commandments...). He had good intentions, clearly, but still, I felt > uncomfortable, and didn't know how to respond to intense, well, preaching, > while I was sitting at the reference desk. This is not the first time that > this has happened, nor is he the first patron to attempt to give me > religious guidance while I'm at work. > > Is there a good, diplomatic way to respond to this sort of behavior? I > want to remain as respectful as possible, and am at a loss as to how to > address these kind of situations. > > Thanks, everyone, > > -Katie > > > Katie Knight > Adult Services Librarian > Granville County Public Library System > Thornton Library > 210 Main Street > Oxford, NC 27565 > > Phone: 919 693-1121 > Fax: 919 693-2244 > > _______________________________________________ > Publib mailing list > Publib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/d3d7858d/attachment.htm From awright at ntrls.org Wed May 10 12:29:51 2006 From: awright at ntrls.org (Adam Wright) Date: Wed May 10 13:22:56 2006 Subject: [Publib] Library Technology NOW! Seeks Submissions for the Summer 2006 Theme Message-ID: <425BE87409B6BA49954C7D375C69F9ED048F68D6@ms09.mse4.exchange.ms> Library Technology NOW! News, Opinions, Wisdom http://LibraryTechnologyNow.org May 10, 2006 Library Technology NOW! Seeks Submissions for the Summer 2006 Theme. FORT WORTH - May 10, 2006 - Library Technology NOW is currently seeking queries for its Summer 2006 Theme of "WiFi". This theme will cover products in the WiFi sector. Library Technology NOW features product reviews written by library people for library people. Interested parties should fill out the short online form which includes the planned products to review and the criteria used in reviewing the products. The query also includes a brief biographical sketch including any previous writing experience. For examples of previous articles, please refer to the Library Technology NOW website located at http://www.librarytechnologynow.org . All queries are due to Library Technology NOW by June 1st for the late July release. Library Technology NOW pays a stipend of $100 for all accepted and published articles. Please fill out the online query form at http://www.librarytechnologynow.org/queryform/. About LTN Library Technology NOW! was founded in early 2004 by the North Texas Regional Library System's Technology Committee and the Automation and Technology Round Table of the Texas Library Association. Other partners include Texas Woman's Univ., Univ. of North Texas, Texas A&M Kingsville and Univ. of Texas at Arlington. ######### For more information: Adam Wright, 1-800-856-3050, awright@ntrls.org, or visit Library Technology NOW at http://www.librarytechnologynow.org A day without laughter is a day wasted Adam Wright Assistant Director North Texas Regional Library System, Inc 6320 Southwest Blvd, Suite 101 Fort Worth, Tx 76109 tel: 817-377-4440 fax: 817-377-8020 mobile: 817-343-2459 Signature powered by Plaxo ... Want a signature like this? Add me to your address book... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/d1d09091/attachment.htm From libraryanna at msn.com Wed May 10 12:36:14 2006 From: libraryanna at msn.com (Judy A) Date: Wed May 10 13:22:57 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How about something simple like "Thank you for wanting to share your religion with me. However, I am at work and this discussion is taking me away from my work duties. Can I help you find something?" Judy Anderson Oregon The perfect gift for the librarian or library student on your list! Visible and Vocal Librarian http://www.cafepress.com/vavlibrarian >From: "Katie Knight" >Reply-To: kknight@granvillecounty.org >To: >Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library >Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 11:49:41 -0400 > >Hello Librarians, > >Let me begin by saying that I love this list, and have learned a lot from >participating in this online community. Today, I have a question that, as >it concerns religion, may be a touchy subject for some. But, I do need >some >guidance and look forward to hearing what you all have to say on the >matter. > >Here's my situation: I'm the reference librarian for a small public library >in rural North Carolina. Several of the patrons in my library like to >express their religious opinions to me, often in a very intense way. This >makes me very uncomfortable, however I don't really know how to respond. I >respect their beliefs and their right to have these beliefs, but I don't >wish to dialogue with them about their beleifs or be put in a situation >while I'm at work where I may have to defend my own beliefs. > >So far I've decided to remain silent when I'm addressed about religion (as >a >personal topic, I mean...reference questions about religion are, of course, >answered as thoroughly as any other question would be). But, today, >someone >got a little pushy (a preacher, he wanted to tell me about the 10 >commandments...). He had good intentions, clearly, but still, I felt >uncomfortable, and didn't know how to respond to intense, well, preaching, >while I was sitting at the reference desk. This is not the first time that >this has happened, nor is he the first patron to attempt to give me >religious guidance while I'm at work. > >Is there a good, diplomatic way to respond to this sort of behavior? I >want >to remain as respectful as possible, and am at a loss as to how to address >these kind of situations. > >Thanks, everyone, > >-Katie > >Katie Knight >Adult Services Librarian >Granville County Public Library System >Thornton Library >210 Main Street >Oxford, NC 27565 > >Phone: 919 693-1121 >Fax: 919 693-2244 >_______________________________________________ >Publib mailing list >Publib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From cjo at elkhart.lib.in.us Wed May 10 12:40:22 2006 From: cjo at elkhart.lib.in.us (Connie Jo Ozinga) Date: Wed May 10 13:22:59 2006 Subject: [Publib] Book Selection Room Message-ID: Here the Selection room is a work area with a table for 4, a PC, and all the publisher's catalogs, issues of review materials (also routed) volumes of Book Review Digest and other selection guides. And gift books for review, having been winnowed out of gift boxes by the selection coordinator. It is used by staff from all locations to work on selection related projects, though they mostly work from routed review sources. In our new building plan it is located in the Main Building reference office area. Connie Connie Jo Ozinga, Director cjo@elkhart.lib.in.us (574)522-3333 www.elkhart.lib.in.us Elkhart Public Library Elkhart, IN 46516 The Elkhart Public Library provides access to resources which inform, educate, enlighten and entertain our diverse community.....Books are just the beginning. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/c3bbc9f9/attachment.htm From MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org Wed May 10 12:48:43 2006 From: MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org (Mary J. Soucie) Date: Wed May 10 13:23:00 2006 Subject: [Publib] Book Selection Room Message-ID: <35A3685E8502B5428734A99EDA6E5E5120D3C4@server.wilmingtonlibrary.org> "The only rooms in our library that serve a single function are the restrooms!" Even this statement isn't totally true, as we having changing tables in ours and often after programs they serve as a wash basin/bath. LOL Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Carolyn Scheer Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:32 AM To: Publib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Publib] Book Selection Room I was puzzled too! Our 'book selection room' consists of whichever big comfy chair at your home that you try to stay awake in while reading book reviews at night. After the BS people have finished the pile of Kirkuses, LJs, etc, they go to whichever computer is available to submit electronic book orders to B&T. The only rooms in our library that serve a single function are the restrooms! At 06:38 PM 5/9/2006, you wrote: >Thanks! I was going to ask the same thing, but I >thought I was missing something everyone else >got! We should have a contest and guess. I think >it's the room where they keep the advanced reading copies! > >Lis? Chlebanowski >Library Manager >Avondale Public Library >328 W. Western Ave. >Avondale, AZ 85323 >623-478-3105 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org >[mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Courtney Stephens >Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:30 AM >To: Danielle M. Walsh >Cc: publib@webjunction.org >Subject: Re: [Publib] Book Selection Room > >I noticed you posted this to PUBLIB about a week ago as well. I'm >afraid your question may not be clear enough to get the responses you >were hoping for. > >What, exactly, is a "librarians book selection room"? > >~Courtney S. > >On 5/7/06, Danielle M. Walsh wrote: > > > > Hi PUBLIB: > > > > Recently my Library made the decision to > close the Librarians book selection > > room. What are some of your opinions on this? J librarians often have > > issues with reading levels, what if any opinions do you all have with this > > factor? > > > > Any input will be helpful. > > Thanks > > > > > > Danielle M. Walsh > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Publib mailing list > > Publib@webjunction.org > > http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From michele.haytko at gmail.com Wed May 10 12:56:00 2006 From: michele.haytko at gmail.com (Michele Haytko) Date: Wed May 10 13:23:02 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library In-Reply-To: <001d01c6744b$7c1b7020$3f02a8c0@olathe.lib.ks.us> References: <001d01c6744b$7c1b7020$3f02a8c0@olathe.lib.ks.us> Message-ID: <15e475fa0605100956w1b94eaye685afb7af20ddba@mail.gmail.com> This has happened to me quite a few times (my personal favorite is "Do you know Jesus?"). As was mentioned earlier, how would you respond to a question about sex? This is how I have taken these personal questions into my personal life. To the priest who was concerned and asked "do you know Jesus", I politely said, "Thank you, but I can't discuss my religious beliefs at work." To the patron who couldn't take that answer and tried to prosletyse when I left work, I told him, "Thank you for your concern, but I am not a Christian." He proceeded to tell me about hell, etc, which I countered with a smile and said "Thank you for your concern." This particular patron continues to come into the library and always says "God bless you". I resist the urge to say "Goddess bless you" or some other choice words and I even say "thank you" to the priest who blesses me when he leaves. You can't change people. You can only change your response to them. Many of these patrons truly are concerned albeit misguided and our best response is kindness. Those are my opinions. :-) ~michele~ -- **************)0(************** Mrs. C. Michele Haytko Montgomery County- Norristown Public Library MC-NPL Computer Lab 1001 Powell Street Norristown, PA 19401 610-278-5100 Ext. 141 "Be the change you wish to see in the world." -Gandhi From cadams at elin.lib.nm.us Wed May 10 13:21:35 2006 From: cadams at elin.lib.nm.us (Cris Adams) Date: Wed May 10 13:26:33 2006 Subject: [Publib] Technical Services Librarians Message-ID: <001b01c67456$30662d90$57821eac@elin.lib.nm.us> For many years, the head of the department that does all the cataloging and processing of new materials has been called the Technical Services Librarian. She supervises two other people, receives new materials, puts them in OCLC, etc. We're curious about what title this staff member has in other libraries. Thanks in advance, Cris Adams Hobbs Public Library 509 N. Shipp Hobbs, NM 88240 From conrad at toastedmelon.com Wed May 10 13:27:29 2006 From: conrad at toastedmelon.com (Conrad Rader) Date: Wed May 10 13:27:37 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004101c67457$0601b5f0$4b00a8c0@ADULTSERVICES> Hey Katie; I sometimes run into this as well. In my experience, it's easiest to respond with "I'm sorry, I do not discuss my personal beliefs while I am working. I would be glad to help you if you have a question but if not, I'm afraid I have work to do." I have run into this problem with the general public, some missionaries, and a Catholic priest, and that response has worked every time. It's just not something that I discuss. Just because you sit at the reference desk does not mean you have to be held hostage to the conversational gambits of singleminded people, who I feel sometimes do not respect boundaries of any kind. I often engage in conversation with patrons on a wide variety of topics. If I enjoy the topic, I will discuss it. This does not mean I have to discuss topics that I do not enjoy (patrons diseases show and tell), do not like (obsessions with a technology magazine) or flat out disagree with (politician's proclivities). My personal rule is that I do not discuss my religious beliefs, or my political views either while I am working, as I am the representative of the library and should avoid associating my personal views with the position of the library (which is studiously neutral on all subjects where I am). Of course, if the behavior persists, it has become a behavior problem for them in not respecting your wishes, and thus should fall under any acceptable behavior policies that your library has. Good luck! Conrad Rader Adult Services Librarian Niles District Library Niles, MI 49120 www.nileslibrary.com contactndl@gmail.com 269-683-8545 x 3313 _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Katie Knight Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:50 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library Hello Librarians, Let me begin by saying that I love this list, and have learned a lot from participating in this online community. Today, I have a question that, as it concerns religion, may be a touchy subject for some. But, I do need some guidance and look forward to hearing what you all have to say on the matter. Here's my situation: I'm the reference librarian for a small public library in rural North Carolina. Several of the patrons in my library like to express their religious opinions to me, often in a very intense way. This makes me very uncomfortable, however I don't really know how to respond. I respect their beliefs and their right to have these beliefs, but I don't wish to dialogue with them about their beleifs or be put in a situation while I'm at work where I may have to defend my own beliefs. So far I've decided to remain silent when I'm addressed about religion (as a personal topic, I mean...reference questions about religion are, of course, answered as thoroughly as any other question would be). But, today, someone got a little pushy (a preacher, he wanted to tell me about the 10 commandments...). He had good intentions, clearly, but still, I felt uncomfortable, and didn't know how to respond to intense, well, preaching, while I was sitting at the reference desk. This is not the first time that this has happened, nor is he the first patron to attempt to give me religious guidance while I'm at work. Is there a good, diplomatic way to respond to this sort of behavior? I want to remain as respectful as possible, and am at a loss as to how to address these kind of situations. Thanks, everyone, -Katie Katie Knight Adult Services Librarian Granville County Public Library System Thornton Library 210 Main Street Oxford, NC 27565 Phone: 919 693-1121 Fax: 919 693-2244 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/66c4078a/attachment.htm From ttrudell at sanantonio.gov Wed May 10 13:34:11 2006 From: ttrudell at sanantonio.gov (Tapley Trudell) Date: Wed May 10 13:34:29 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library Message-ID: <0BE6971E43B97845B2CB83F1A03357FB065331@EVS1.cosa.root.ci.sat.tx.us> I am very curious about people's responses to this question. For my part, I would respond to any questions like, "Do you go to church?" with "I'm sorry, but I feel that that is a very personal question." If someone tries to preach at length, do you have a staff member who can bail you out? Something along the lines of , "Excuse me, I don't want to interrupt, but we need your help out back for a moment." Sometimes this is necessary when a patron is monopolizing a staff member by expostulating at length on a variety of subjects from religion to politics to movies. I hope this helps! Tapley Trudell Librarian I San Antonio Public Library ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Katie Knight Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:50 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library Is there a good, diplomatic way to respond to this sort of behavior? I want to remain as respectful as possible, and am at a loss as to how to address these kind of situations. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/76b12e66/attachment.htm From phenriksen at neflin.org Wed May 10 13:34:22 2006 From: phenriksen at neflin.org (Phalbe Henriksen) Date: Wed May 10 13:37:06 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library In-Reply-To: <69cd9c750605101010j7dd60e47obb6e5812da0afcf@mail.gmail.com > References: <001d01c6744b$7c1b7020$3f02a8c0@olathe.lib.ks.us> <69cd9c750605101010j7dd60e47obb6e5812da0afcf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060510132754.0388ee78@neflin.org> Folks, Why can't you just explain why? "Mr. Religion, I'm sorry, but it's unethical for me to discuss religion or politics while I'm working for the county." We have a young man who likes to ask staff if they think he would look good in a dress. I think the correct response to that is, "t would be inappropriate for me to answer that question." I'm from North Carolina, too, and I well understand how some people feel that discussing religion with anyone, anywhere, is appropriate. I think they need to be told the guidelines under which we work. Not participating in a conversation goes right over some people's heads. Phalbe Henriksen Director Bradford County Public Library Starke, FL From dwegener at ci.lincoln.ca.us Wed May 10 13:39:41 2006 From: dwegener at ci.lincoln.ca.us (Darla Wegener) Date: Wed May 10 13:37:16 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library Message-ID: <668805DEF054734884DEC07AAAF5633F5DC7FC@CHEX.lincoln.loc> Try saying "I was told not to discuss religion, politics, or sex at work. May I help you with another question?" I used something like this with a patron trying to "convert me" to his politically ideology and it worked. I also joked with him that I only discussed these three things with my husband. Darla Wegener Director of Library Services Lincoln Public Library 590 Fifth Street Lincoln, CA 95648 916 645-6377 ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/8dc77ded/attachment.htm From suekamm at mindspring.com Wed May 10 13:42:25 2006 From: suekamm at mindspring.com (Sue Kamm) Date: Wed May 10 14:05:22 2006 Subject: [Publib] Difficult reference questions Message-ID: <29719200.1147282945639.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> For those mourning the demise of Stumpers, weep no more! The old list has morphed into Project Wombat, and the website is at http://project-wombat.org/. The former Stumpers archives are being edited by volunteers, so they're not yet accessible. Your friendly CyberGoddess and Councilor-at-large, Sue Kamm Inglewood/Los Angeles, CA Truest of the Blue, Los Angeles Dodgers Think Blue Week 2000 email: suekamm [at] mindspring.com When you absolutely, positively HAVE to know, ASK A LIBRARIAN! From tcooper at wgpl.lib.mo.us Wed May 10 14:00:39 2006 From: tcooper at wgpl.lib.mo.us (Tom Cooper) Date: Wed May 10 14:05:24 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library Message-ID: I think the most dead-on answer came from whoever said to turn the question into a reference query. Q: Do you go to church? A: Are you interested in a particular church? We have the Handbook of Denominations if you'd like to see it. Q: Do you pray? A: Are you interested in prayer? We have several good books of prayer, let me show you some. Q: Are you a Christian? A: Is there something I can show you about Christianity? We have quite a good section on Biblical interpretation, the life of Christ and more . . . I've done this many times, and it works well. It serves two functions - one to divert the line of questioning and two, to enervate the eventual assertion by these sort of self-made evangelists that libraries and other public institutions are agnostic bastions. Tom Cooper, Director Webster Groves Public Library 301 E. Lockwood Webster Groves, MO 63119 (314) 961-3784 tcooper@wgpl.lib.mo.us ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Katie Knight Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:50 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library Hello Librarians, Let me begin by saying that I love this list, and have learned a lot from participating in this online community. Today, I have a question that, as it concerns religion, may be a touchy subject for some. But, I do need some guidance and look forward to hearing what you all have to say on the matter. Here's my situation: I'm the reference librarian for a small public library in rural North Carolina. Several of the patrons in my library like to express their religious opinions to me, often in a very intense way. This makes me very uncomfortable, however I don't really know how to respond. I respect their beliefs and their right to have these beliefs, but I don't wish to dialogue with them about their beleifs or be put in a situation while I'm at work where I may have to defend my own beliefs. So far I've decided to remain silent when I'm addressed about religion (as a personal topic, I mean...reference questions about religion are, of course, answered as thoroughly as any other question would be). But, today, someone got a little pushy (a preacher, he wanted to tell me about the 10 commandments...). He had good intentions, clearly, but still, I felt uncomfortable, and didn't know how to respond to intense, well, preaching, while I was sitting at the reference desk. This is not the first time that this has happened, nor is he the first patron to attempt to give me religious guidance while I'm at work. Is there a good, diplomatic way to respond to this sort of behavior? I want to remain as respectful as possible, and am at a loss as to how to address these kind of situations. Thanks, everyone, -Katie Katie Knight Adult Services Librarian Granville County Public Library System Thornton Library 210 Main Street Oxford, NC 27565 Phone: 919 693-1121 Fax: 919 693-2244 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/fd9d8062/attachment.htm From ghazelton at mail.henry.public.lib.ga.us Wed May 10 14:06:08 2006 From: ghazelton at mail.henry.public.lib.ga.us (George Hazelton) Date: Wed May 10 14:06:17 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006f01c6745c$6a1bae10$4101a8c0@HCLSGHAZELTON> Hey Katie - I can sympathize, having lived and worked in the South the majority of my life (although from some of the other posts this problem is hardly specific to the South). I'm sure you've had the experience of meeting someone socially, beginning a conversation, only to be asked "And where did you say you went to church?" Of course this is usually only a conversational ploy, but as a liberal - both politically and religiously - who attends church only seldom, I find it off-putting. Being preached to on the job is worse, since one's responses are limited and one can't usually just walk away. I've sometimes replied that I consider my religion (or lack thereof!) a very private and personal matter. This sometimes works but as you describe there are those who can't take the hint. Perhaps the best response is that suggested by several posts, stating that it is unethical, or forbidden, to discuss politics and/or religion and/or sex on the job. It's truly amazing what patrons will tell you, given half a chance. I was once treated to a long discourse on the machine a patron was designing - an infernal device to administer a high colonic enema!! George Hazelton Assistant Director Henry County Library System 1001 Florence McGarity Pkwy McDonough, GA 30252 Phone: 770-954-2806 FAX: 770-954-2808 email: ghazelton@mail.henry.public.lib.ga.us _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Katie Knight Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:50 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library Hello Librarians, Let me begin by saying that I love this list, and have learned a lot from participating in this online community. Today, I have a question that, as it concerns religion, may be a touchy subject for some. But, I do need some guidance and look forward to hearing what you all have to say on the matter. Here's my situation: I'm the reference librarian for a small public library in rural North Carolina. Several of the patrons in my library like to express their religious opinions to me, often in a very intense way. This makes me very uncomfortable, however I don't really know how to respond. I respect their beliefs and their right to have these beliefs, but I don't wish to dialogue with them about their beleifs or be put in a situation while I'm at work where I may have to defend my own beliefs. So far I've decided to remain silent when I'm addressed about religion (as a personal topic, I mean...reference questions about religion are, of course, answered as thoroughly as any other question would be). But, today, someone got a little pushy (a preacher, he wanted to tell me about the 10 commandments...). He had good intentions, clearly, but still, I felt uncomfortable, and didn't know how to respond to intense, well, preaching, while I was sitting at the reference desk. This is not the first time that this has happened, nor is he the first patron to attempt to give me religious guidance while I'm at work. Is there a good, diplomatic way to respond to this sort of behavior? I want to remain as respectful as possible, and am at a loss as to how to address these kind of situations. Thanks, everyone, -Katie Katie Knight Adult Services Librarian Granville County Public Library System Thornton Library 210 Main Street Oxford, NC 27565 Phone: 919 693-1121 Fax: 919 693-2244 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/fae8b63c/attachment.htm From diedrec at charter.net Wed May 10 14:33:58 2006 From: diedrec at charter.net (Diedre Conkling) Date: Wed May 10 14:34:05 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library Message-ID: <2667545.1147286038894.JavaMail.root@fepweb09> ---- Phalbe Henriksen wrote: ============= We have a young man who likes to ask staff if they think he would look good in a dress. I think the correct response to that is, "t would be inappropriate for me to answer that question." This response sends me on another tangent. And I do love tangents. My response to this young man would probably be more like "Oh, I am not a good judge of how one looks or should dress. However, we do have a number of books and magazines that might help you think about these things (dress, make-up, hair styles, etc.) Follow me..." I am not speaking from inexperience here. There have been several times in my library career when a person has found the library the only comfortable place to be when questioning gender and sexuality. This may not be an issue with the patron mentioned here but it might be so why not approach it as a reference question, as was suggested by some in response to the religion question. Then one is not put in the awkward position of making a personal response. And those of you that know me probably know that I am not a good judge of dresses any way. ;-) -- Diedre Conkling Lincoln County Library District P.O. Box 2027, Newport, OR 97365 Phone & Fax: 541-265-3066 http://lcld.library-blogs.net/ Work: diedre@beachbooks.org Home: diedrec@charter.net From JNicholson at williamson-tn.org Wed May 10 14:34:10 2006 From: JNicholson at williamson-tn.org (Jeffie Nicholson) Date: Wed May 10 14:34:23 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library In-Reply-To: <69cd9c750605101010j7dd60e47obb6e5812da0afcf@mail.gmail.com> References: <001d01c6744b$7c1b7020$3f02a8c0@olathe.lib.ks.us> <69cd9c750605101010j7dd60e47obb6e5812da0afcf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4461EBE3.A3EF.00F0.0@williamson„tn.org> I like the re-adjusting the focus method by Dale. I would add saying politely, "I don't answer personal questions in the workplace" and then asking if about helping with a library service. Or something to that effect. My library is government-funded and as such no personal statements can be made regarding politics, religion, etcetera. Sometimes explaining that stops overly-assertive patrons too. Jeffie >>> "Dale McNeill" 5/10/2006 12:10 pm >>> Great suggestions. I also try to get the patron to "what's your library question?" with something like "I understand that this is important to you, but I'd really like to focus on the service you need from the library today. Can I help you find a specific book?" It's very tough in some parts of the country where talking about faith is as culturally appropriate to many people as talking about the weather. Dale On 5/10/06, Joshua Neff wrote: > > First of all, I know how you feel. I've had some patrons get a bit pushy > with the religious questioning, too. I generally just deflect it as best I > can ("Do you go to church?" "Not around here." "Oh, you go to a church in > another part of town?" "No..."). But it is hard sometimes. > > So, think on this: what if a patron started asking you about your > politics? Or about your sex life? What if a patron asked you for your home > phone number? Or asked how much you were paid? In other words, how would you > handle a patron engaging you in inappropriate conversation? Be polite, but > be firm: you don't consider this to be appropriate. The patron may still be > offended (some religious folks consider it entirely appropriate to talk to > complete strangers about religion), but that's the patron's problem, not > yours. You shouldn't be expected to accept sexual harrassment, so why accept > any other harrassment? > > > --Joshua M. Neff > Indian Creek Branch > Olathe Public Library > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto: > publib-bounces@webjunction.org] *On Behalf Of *Katie Knight > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:50 AM > *To:* publib@webjunction.org > *Subject:* [Publib] Religion at the library > > > Hello Librarians, > > Let me begin by saying that I love this list, and have learned a lot from > participating in this online community. Today, I have a question that, as > it concerns religion, may be a touchy subject for some. But, I do need some > guidance and look forward to hearing what you all have to say on the matter. > > Here's my situation: I'm the reference librarian for a small public > library in rural North Carolina. Several of the patrons in my library like > to express their religious opinions to me, often in a very intense way. > This makes me very uncomfortable, however I don't really know how to > respond. I respect their beliefs and their right to have these beliefs, but > I don't wish to dialogue with them about their beleifs or be put in a > situation while I'm at work where I may have to defend my own beliefs. > > So far I've decided to remain silent when I'm addressed about religion (as > a personal topic, I mean...reference questions about religion are, of > course, answered as thoroughly as any other question would be). But, today, > someone got a little pushy (a preacher, he wanted to tell me about the 10 > commandments...). He had good intentions, clearly, but still, I felt > uncomfortable, and didn't know how to respond to intense, well, preaching, > while I was sitting at the reference desk. This is not the first time that > this has happened, nor is he the first patron to attempt to give me > religious guidance while I'm at work. > > Is there a good, diplomatic way to respond to this sort of behavior? I > want to remain as respectful as possible, and am at a loss as to how to > address these kind of situations. > > Thanks, everyone, > > -Katie > > > Katie Knight > Adult Services Librarian > Granville County Public Library System > Thornton Library > 210 Main Street > Oxford, NC 27565 > > Phone: 919 693-1121 > Fax: 919 693-2244 > > _______________________________________________ > Publib mailing list > Publib@webjunction.org > http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > > > From Backwage at aol.com Wed May 10 15:41:55 2006 From: Backwage at aol.com (Backwage@aol.com) Date: Wed May 10 15:42:13 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library Message-ID: <3fa.1ecc656.31939c03@aol.com> I think the answer to the questions about religion is, "Why yes, I think you would look good in a dress." Then again, you might answer, "Sure, I'd love to go to your church. Would you mind subbing for me that Sunday?" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Box 320 New Castle, CO 81647 mkittay@marmot.org tel: fax: mobile: 970/984-2347 970/984-2487 970/618-6291 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of George Hazelton Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:58 PM To: 'Robert L'; publib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Publib] Refuges Sad to say, libraries are no longer (if in truth they ever were) a "safe" place. I cringe when I hear a non-library person refer to a library as a safe place. We have too many people who drop their small children off at our facilities while they go shopping, or whatever. Would that the danger of her small daughter being exposed to LGBT materials were the only "hazard" at your or any other library. True refuges are a state of mind as much as anything else. George Hazelton Assistant Director Henry County Library System 1001 Florence McGarity Pkwy McDonough, GA 30252 Phone: 770-954-2806 FAX: 770-954-2808 email: ghazelton@mail.henry.public.lib.ga.us _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Robert L Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:25 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Refuges Ahhh, refuges... About four years ago, when I was a branch manager in another city, a patron approached me, and, shaking with emotion and voice breaking, told me how since she has been a little girl, that library branch had been her refuge from the world, and that now she brought her own small daughter to the same library to experience it as a "safe place". The cause of her strong emotion was that I had ruined the safe place for her and her daughter forever by creating a (very bland) display of books of interest to the LGBT community. (It was June, after all). Lest you should think that this was a dangerous neighborhood, I should tell you that it was very comfortably middle-class by any standard, and was reputed to be home to the second-largest concentration of gay and lesbian residents in the city. (Perhaps not, however, in view of their complete indifference to the display). We all need refuges, but yours may not be mine. Robert Logan Austin, TX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/ca5a4f3f/attachment.htm From kate at lib.lapeer.org Wed May 10 15:52:30 2006 From: kate at lib.lapeer.org (Kate A. Pohjola) Date: Wed May 10 15:53:35 2006 Subject: [Publib] 21st century job hunting question In-Reply-To: <200605091007.AA11731274@mail.hublib.lib.nj.us> References: <200605091007.AA11731274@mail.hublib.lib.nj.us> Message-ID: <4462447E.3060107@lib.lapeer.org> Deb Messling wrote: > Being nosy, I Googled her name and came up with a myspace page that I > suppose is no wilder than many other young people's pages, but > certain entries definitely gave me pause. Do employers routinely > Google job applicants these days? Should I counsel her to take > down/edit her page? Do public libraries even care about their > employees private lives? When I was actively searching for a new position, a friend pulled me aside and gently said "do you think the title of your web page could be affecting your job hunt?" I hadn't given it much thought, as I figured everyone understood that the idea of the "Bastard Librarian from Hell" was a spoof on the Bastard Operator From Hell. Not so much. Not everyone clicks on the link to the "inspiration" page, and not everyone has been online since before the bitnet days to appreciate the BOFH. I tweaked my main page and pulled down the references to the BLFH and switched to a picture of myself with my adorable niece. Then I was warned that *that* picture could affect my job search as well, as I was told "a potential employer may look at that and see a picture of you with a little kid and assume you're a single parent and that you'll need a lot of time off..." I added an alt text tag with "Aunt Kate and her girl." I gave up after that. I figured if a potential employer had problems with my being an auntie, it was best that I was eliminated from their list right away. Flash forward a year and a half - the job search was successful and I'm a (relatively) new library director. Not long after starting the new position, I reviewed the committee and full board minutes of the meetings held between when I made the short list, was interviewed and then offered the position. Two board members expressed concern, specifically about the name of my web page. Both of them had read the inspiration bits and understood what it was about, but they were worried that the public would not understand. As the director, like it or not, I am the public face of the library, especially in a small town. Long story short, I'm very mixed on the appropriateness of using Google to "dig up" information on potential staff members, as I firmly believe that there should be a separation between our personal and professional lives, but there's also the reality of dealing with the public. It might be different for a director than other staff members, too, but we're all the public faces of our institutions. I haven't removed my MySpace profile, as I use it frequently to keep in touch with old friends and family, but I am very cautious about what I post there, and I have to approve anything that anyone else posts in there as well. You might advise the MLIS student that anything she puts online can and will be used against (or for) her when she's looking for employment. kate -- Kate A. Pohjola, Director Lapeer District Library 201 Village West Drive, Lapeer, MI 48446 http://www.library.lapeer.org v: 810.664.9521 f: 810 664-8527 From Dean.Corner at maine.gov Wed May 10 16:05:07 2006 From: Dean.Corner at maine.gov (Corner, Dean) Date: Wed May 10 16:05:38 2006 Subject: [Publib] Signing up for Library Cards Message-ID: <3233E4190E74E84CB8BB502705B83EFF010CB148@SOM-TEAQASMAIL1.som.w2k.state.me.us> Mindy: We are right in the midst of providing such a service. We've developed a simple online registration form that will soon be available on our homepage. It will be electronically submitted to the head of our circ dept. The card will be ready on the next business day. The patron needs to provide a valid ID with current address when the card is picked up to verify name & address. It's not up and running yet but I don't foresee any problems unless the ID is not current. We provide cards to any and all Maine residents. Dean _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Mindy Kittay Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:52 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Signing up for Library Cards In an effort to improve our customer service we would like to allow residents of our County to apply for a library card without entering the library. Is anyone doing this? If so, how are you doing it? We require two pieces of paper that show residence in Garfield County. These could be a driver's license, utility bill, etc. Obviously, they could fax these over or scan and e-mail them but then things start to get complicated. In any case, your ideas and thoughts are appreciated. Thanks, Mindy Mindy Kittay Assistant Director/Systems Librarian Garfield County Public Library System P.O. Box 320 New Castle, CO 81647 mkittay@marmot.org tel: fax: mobile: 970/984-2347 970/984-2487 970/618-6291 Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of George Hazelton Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:58 PM To: 'Robert L'; publib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Publib] Refuges Sad to say, libraries are no longer (if in truth they ever were) a "safe" place. I cringe when I hear a non-library person refer to a library as a safe place. We have too many people who drop their small children off at our facilities while they go shopping, or whatever. Would that the danger of her small daughter being exposed to LGBT materials were the only "hazard" at your or any other library. True refuges are a state of mind as much as anything else. George Hazelton Assistant Director Henry County Library System 1001 Florence McGarity Pkwy McDonough, GA 30252 Phone: 770-954-2806 FAX: 770-954-2808 email: ghazelton@mail.henry.public.lib.ga.us _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Robert L Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:25 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Refuges Ahhh, refuges... About four years ago, when I was a branch manager in another city, a patron approached me, and, shaking with emotion and voice breaking, told me how since she has been a little girl, that library branch had been her refuge from the world, and that now she brought her own small daughter to the same library to experience it as a "safe place". The cause of her strong emotion was that I had ruined the safe place for her and her daughter forever by creating a (very bland) display of books of interest to the LGBT community. (It was June, after all). Lest you should think that this was a dangerous neighborhood, I should tell you that it was very comfortably middle-class by any standard, and was reputed to be home to the second-largest concentration of gay and lesbian residents in the city. (Perhaps not, however, in view of their complete indifference to the display). We all need refuges, but yours may not be mine. Robert Logan Austin, TX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/cae71b38/attachment-0001.htm From filleul at noblenet.org Wed May 10 16:14:06 2006 From: filleul at noblenet.org (Michelle Filleul) Date: Wed May 10 16:31:59 2006 Subject: [Publib] Signing up for Library Cards In-Reply-To: <3233E4190E74E84CB8BB502705B83EFF010CB148@SOM-TEAQASMAIL1.som.w2k.state.me.us> References: <3233E4190E74E84CB8BB502705B83EFF010CB148@SOM-TEAQASMAIL1.som.w2k.state.me.us> Message-ID: <4462498E.2070801@noblenet.org> Could you send along a link to your application? We are thinking of doing the same thing. Corner, Dean wrote: > Mindy: > > We are right in the midst of providing such a service. We've > developed a simple online registration form that will soon be > available on our homepage. It will be electronically submitted to the > head of our circ dept. The card will be ready on the next business > day. The patron needs to provide a valid ID with current address when > the card is picked up to verify name & address. > > It's not up and running yet but I don't foresee any problems unless > the ID is not current. We provide cards to any and all Maine residents. > > Dean > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* publib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] *On Behalf Of *Mindy Kittay > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:52 PM > *To:* publib@webjunction.org > *Subject:* [Publib] Signing up for Library Cards > > In an effort to improve our customer service we would like to allow > residents of our County to apply for a library card without entering > the library. Is anyone doing this? If so, how are you doing it? We > require two pieces of paper that show residence in Garfield County. > These could be a driver's license, utility bill, etc. Obviously, they > could fax these over or scan and e-mail them but then things start to > get complicated. > > > > In any case, your ideas and thoughts are appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Mindy > > > > *Mindy Kittay* > /Assistant Director/Systems Librarian/ > > > > *Garfield** County** Public Library System* > P.O. Box 320 > New Castle, CO 81647 > > > > mkittay@marmot.org > > > > tel: > fax: > mobile: > > > > 970/984-2347 > 970/984-2487 > 970/618-6291 > > > > > > /Add me to your address book.../ > > > > > /Want a signature like this?/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* publib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] *On Behalf Of *George Hazelton > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:58 PM > *To:* 'Robert L'; publib@webjunction.org > *Subject:* RE: [Publib] Refuges > > > > > > > > Sad to say, libraries are no longer (if in truth they ever were) a > "safe" place. I cringe when I hear a non-library person refer to a > library as a safe place. We have too many people who drop their small > children off at our facilities while they go shopping, or whatever. > Would that the danger of her small daughter being exposed to LGBT > materials were the only "hazard" at your or any other library. > > > > True refuges are a state of mind as much as anything else. > > George Hazelton > Assistant Director > Henry County Library System > 1001 Florence McGarity Pkwy > McDonough, GA 30252 > Phone: 770-954-2806 > FAX: 770-954-2808 > email: ghazelton@mail.henry.public.lib.ga.us > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* publib-bounces@webjunction.org > [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert L > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:25 PM > *To:* publib@webjunction.org > *Subject:* [Publib] Refuges > > > > Ahhh, refuges... > > > > About four years ago, when I was a branch manager in another city, a > patron approached me, and, shaking with emotion and voice breaking, > told me how since she has been a little girl, that library branch had > been her refuge from the world, and that now she brought her own small > daughter to the same library to experience it as a "safe place". The > cause of her strong emotion was that I had ruined the safe place for > her and her daughter forever by creating a (very bland) display of > books of interest to the LGBT community. (It was June, after all). > > > > Lest you should think that this was a dangerous neighborhood, I should > tell you that it was very comfortably middle-class by any standard, > and was reputed to be home to the second-largest concentration of gay > and lesbian residents in the city. (Perhaps not, however, in view of > their complete indifference to the display). > > > > We all need refuges, but yours may not be mine. > > > > Robert Logan > > Austin, TX > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Publib mailing list >Publib@webjunction.org >http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib > > -- Michelle Filleul Head of Circulation Reading Public Library 64 Middlesex Ave Reading, MA 01867 filleul@noblenet.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <7.0.0.10.0.20060510164117.01a77ff0@aaupnet.org> Attention: All 2006 ALA Annual Attendees: Read any great books lately? Learn about any great books lately? WIN ANY GREAT BOOKS LATELY?! At the 2006 ALA Annual Conference (June 22-28, New Orleans, LA), attend "The Best of the Best from the University Presses: Books You Should Know About" Sunday, June 25, 2006 Time : 1:30 pm Place : Morial Convention Center, Room 294 Learn about great books for your library, and get a chance to win some, too! University presses represent an often undiscovered gold mine of resources for libraries. At this program, AASL and PLA librarians will introduce recent titles they've found to be "the best" for a variety of reasons. Come discover 27 book titles from a variety of subjects and presses, and learn why they should be acquired for library collections. * BOOK RAFFLE at the end of the program! Titles presented will be raffled among four program attendees! Sponsored by : the American Association of School Librarians (AASL), and the Public Library Association (PLA). Presented by the Association of American University Presses (AAUP). For further information, contact Rachel Weiss, Marketing Manager, AAUP, at rweiss@aaupnet.org. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PROGRAM PANELISTS : Christina Maria Beaird (PLA) , Plainfield Public Libraries, Plainfield, IL Mary Cosper-LeBoeuf (PLA) , Terrenbone Parish Library, Houma, LA Clark Heath (AASL) , Southfield Lathrup High School, Lathrup Village, MI Terri Lent (AASL) , Patrick Henry High School, Ashland VA Judith E. McGowan (AASL) , NYC Dept. of Education, New York, NY TITLES PRESENTED (in dewey decimal order): 210.3 In Search of Myths and Heroes: Exploring Four Epic Legends of the World by Michael Wood University of California Press/ $ 24.95 cloth Subjects: Mythology, Folklore, History 221.9?1 The Natural History of the Bible by Daniel Hillel Columbia University Press / $ 32.50 cloth Subjects: The Bible [Old Testament],Human Ecology, Judaism 302.6 The Last Refuge: Patriotism, Politics, and the Environment in an Age of Terror by David W. Orr Island Press / $ 14.95 paper Subjects: Political Freedom & Security, Current Events, Essays 304.6?09 American People: Census 2000 by Reynolds Farley and John Haaga The Russell Sage Foundation / $ 35.00 paper Subjects: Census & General Statistics, Sociology, United States 305.4?09 Before Victoria: Extraordinary Women of the British Romantic Era by Elizabeth Campbell Delinger Columbia University Press / $ 39.50 cloth Subjects: Biography/Autobiography, British History, Women?s Studies 305.896 Black Bangor: African Americans in a Maine Community, 1880-1950 by Maureen Elgersman-Lee University Press of New England / $ 22.00 paper Subjects: African-American Studies, 20th Century, Biography/Autobiography 305.896 Lost Delta Found: Rediscovering The Fisk University-Library Of Congress Coahoma County Study by John W. Work Vanderbilt University Press / $ 34.95 cloth Subjects: African-American Studies, Music?The Blues, The Delta Region 306.362 Equiano, the African: Biography of a Self-Made Man by Vincent Carretta University of Georgia Press / $ 29.95 cloth Subjects: United States?Colonial Period, Biography/Autobiography, Great Britain 323.173 We Are All Suspects Now: Untold Stories From Immigrant Communities After 9/11 by Tram Nguyen Beacon Press / $ 14.00 paper Subjects: Emigration & Immigration, ?September 11th/War on Terror?, Social Science 323.6'5 To the Flag: The Unlikely History of the Pledge of Allegiance by Richard J. Ellis University Press of Kansas / $ 29.95 cloth Subjects: U.S. History, Patriotism, Civil Rights, Political Idealogy 328.73 Changing the Face of Power: Women in the U.S. Senate by Melina Mara University of Texas Press / $ 34.95 cloth Subjects: Political Science, Women?s Studies, Government-Legislative Branch 333.72 What a Book Can Do: The Publication and Reception of Silent Spring by Priscilla Coit Murphy University of Massachusetts Press / $ 34.95 cloth Subjects: Books & Reading, Literary Criticism, Environmental Studies 808.1 The Poetry Home Repair Manual : Practical Advice for Beginning Poets by Ted Kooser University of Nebraska Press / $ 19.95 cloth Subjects: Composition, Creative Writing, Language Arts 812 Captured! A Boy Trapped in the Civil War by Mary Blair Immel Indiana Historical Society Press / $ 6.95 paper Subjects: Children's Books (Gr. 4-6), Fiction, The Civil War 813.509 The Contemporary African American Novel: Its Folk Roots and Modern Literary Branches by Bernard W. Bell University of Massachusetts Press / $ 24.95 paper Subjects: African American Writers, 20th Century, American Fiction 813.54 The Meaning of Consuelo: A Novel by Judith Ortiz Cofer Beacon Press / $ 13.00 paper Subjects: Fiction, Loss (Psychological), Puerto Rico 813.54 Somebody's Daughter: A Novel by Marie Myung-Ok Lee Beacon Press / $ 14.00 paper Subjects: Fiction, Asian-American Literature, Adoption 813.54 Can Anything Beat White? A Black Family?s Letters by Elizabeth Petry University Press of Mississippi / $ 35.00 cloth Subjects: African American Studies, 20th Centiry, Families, Biography 822.3?3 Annotated Shakespeare Series: Macbeth, Othello, Taming of the Shrew by Wiliam Shakespeare Yale University Press / $ 6.95 paper (each) Subjects: Shakespeare, Study Guides, Drama/Plays 909 A Little History of the World by E.H. Gombrich Yale University Press / $ 25.00 cloth Subjects: History, Young Adult Reference 911.22 Cities of the World: A History in Maps by Peter Whitfield University of California Press / $ 39.95 cloth Subjects: Geography, Earth Sciences, Urban Sociology 917.12 The Mapmaker's Eye: David Thompson on the Columbia Plateau by Jack Nisbet Washington State University Press / $ 29.95 paper Subjects: Biography, Cartography, Canada 940.54'2 Unknown Battle of Midway: The Destruction of the American Torpedo Squadrons by Alvin Kernan Yale University Press / $ 26.00 cloth Subjects: Military/War History, World War II, Military Aviation 956.704 Sister in the Band of Brothers: Embedded with the 101st Airborne in Iraq by Katherine Skiba University Press of Kansas / $ 29.95 cloth Subjects: War Correspondence, Iraq War 2003-, Military 956.94 How Israelis and Palestinians Negotiate by Tamara Cofman Wittes U.S. Institute of Peace Press / $ 14.95 paper Subjects: Arab-Israeli Conflict, Ethnic Studies, International Relations Rachel Weiss Marketing Manager The Association of American University Presses 71 West 23rd Street, Suite 901 New York, New York 10010 212-989-1010 x27, 212-989-0275 fax http://aaupnet.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Soucie responded: "Even this statement isn't totally true, as we having changing tables in ours and often after programs they serve as a wash basin/bath. LOL " I will add to this by simply stating that . . . er . . . in a wireless library you can work on your email ANYWHERE. Joe S. _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From kgs at bluehighways.com Wed May 10 16:52:31 2006 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 10 16:52:38 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library In-Reply-To: <2667545.1147286038894.JavaMail.root@fepweb09> Message-ID: <001701c67473$a8cdabb0$6401a8c0@venus> > This response sends me on another tangent. And I do love tangents. > > My response to this young man would probably be more like "Oh, I am not a > good judge of how one looks or should dress. However, we do have a number > of books and magazines that might help you think about these things > (dress, make-up, hair styles, etc.) Follow me..." I agree with Diedre. Beyond "testing" the staff, and I've dealt with this question myself (I mean--from a patron; I already think I look pretty good in a dress, the two times a year I wear one), the subtext of such a request might be, "How comfortable are you with this question--and really with me." The subtext of Diedre's response is "All are welcome here." Of course, about the two hundredth time the same person asked me that question, I might have to suppress the urge to respond "Avoid culottes--they will make your butt look big." Karen G. Schneider kgs@bluehighways.com From MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org Wed May 10 16:53:45 2006 From: MJSoucie at wilmingtonlibrary.org (Mary J. Soucie) Date: Wed May 10 16:54:25 2006 Subject: [Publib] Signing up for Library Cards Message-ID: <35A3685E8502B5428734A99EDA6E5E5120D3CE@server.wilmingtonlibrary.org> We also are allowing patrons to fill out an online application. When they come in, they'll have to sign our regular app and show proof of id/residency. Here's our link FWIW: http://www.wilmingtonlibrary.org/librarycard.htm Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And, the next time I visit Maine I'll make sure we meet in person. This grandmother needs to brush up on her nursery rhymes and such and maybe I'll learn something that we can use here in Atlantic County. :-) Gair __________ Gair Helfrich, MLS Network, Computer and Technical Services Manager Atlantic County Library 40 Farragut Avenue Mays Landing, NJ 08330 609-625-2776 ext. 6313 Fax: 609-625-8143 ghelfrich@aclsys.org ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Davis Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:04 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans We had a recent from a non-native English speaking patron who says it takes her several months to read a book in English, and wonders if we could give her an extended loan period on a regular basis. Has anyone ever encountered this situation before? Do you have patrons who are givben extended loan periods as a matter of course? While we certainly would not do this where ILLs are concerned, but we may consider it for our own items. Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks! Rachel Rachel Q. Davis Children's Librarian Thomas Memorial Library 6 Scott Dyer Road Cape Elizabeth, ME 04107 207-799-1720 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/69f1ff4f/attachment.htm From sedanlib at terraworld.net Wed May 10 17:20:00 2006 From: sedanlib at terraworld.net (Kathleen McCorkle) Date: Wed May 10 17:22:31 2006 Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans References: Message-ID: <00e701c67477$7f926a70$9b01a8c0@staff> We extend the period for teachers using items in the classrooms, for our large print readers ex; one patron loves Tom Clancy but it takes him two months to get through one of his books and that is in LP. Maybe they are using it to learn English? Of course I wouldn't do that with a brand new very popular book. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rachel Davis To: publib@webjunction.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans We had a recent from a non-native English speaking patron who says it takes her several months to read a book in English, and wonders if we could give her an extended loan period on a regular basis. Has anyone ever encountered this situation before? Do you have patrons who are givben extended loan periods as a matter of course? While we certainly would not do this where ILLs are concerned, but we may consider it for our own items. Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks! Rachel Rachel Q. Davis Children's Librarian Thomas Memorial Library 6 Scott Dyer Road Cape Elizabeth, ME 04107 207-799-1720 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/80703746/attachment.htm From sedanlib at terraworld.net Wed May 10 17:24:40 2006 From: sedanlib at terraworld.net (Kathleen McCorkle) Date: Wed May 10 17:29:28 2006 Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans References: <356DDDA0D37B6047925CBB29EEB9A7F537BA87@acexchange.aclsys.local> Message-ID: <010201c67478$26ab83f0$9b01a8c0@staff> Hey someone my son became acquainted with told him he knew who his mom was and what she did and where she was, this was in Boston and I am in Sedan, KS. Of course they came across our web page. It is a smaller world nowadays. . ----- Original Message ----- From: Gair Helfrich To: publib@webjunction.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 4:09 PM Subject: RE: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans I replied privately to Rachel (forgot to hit the Reply to All button) but thought I'd tell everyone what a small world we live in. Over the past couple years I've traded emails a couple times with Rachel and now she's doing a program at her library in Maine that my brand new grandson is attending! My daughter-in-law was astounded to hear that I "knew" Rachel via the Internet. And, the next time I visit Maine I'll make sure we meet in person. This grandmother needs to brush up on her nursery rhymes and such and maybe I'll learn something that we can use here in Atlantic County. J Gair __________ Gair Helfrich, MLS Network, Computer and Technical Services Manager Atlantic County Library 40 Farragut Avenue Mays Landing, NJ 08330 609-625-2776 ext. 6313 Fax: 609-625-8143 ghelfrich@aclsys.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Davis Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:04 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans We had a recent from a non-native English speaking patron who says it takes her several months to read a book in English, and wonders if we could give her an extended loan period on a regular basis. Has anyone ever encountered this situation before? Do you have patrons who are givben extended loan periods as a matter of course? While we certainly would not do this where ILLs are concerned, but we may consider it for our own items. 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URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/d366276c/attachment.htm From ghelfrich at aclsys.org Wed May 10 17:24:40 2006 From: ghelfrich at aclsys.org (Gair Helfrich) Date: Wed May 10 17:34:01 2006 Subject: [Publib] Technical Services Librarians Message-ID: <356DDDA0D37B6047925CBB29EEB9A7F537BA8C@acexchange.aclsys.local> Hi everyone, Please reply to the list--I've recently taken over Tech Services in addition to my other duties and we're trying to find a catchy name for all my job duties. I'm currently supervising 10 people between the different sections. Gair __________ Gair Helfrich, MLS Network, Computer and Technical Services Manager Atlantic County Library 40 Farragut Avenue Mays Landing, NJ 08330 609-625-2776 ext. 6313 Fax: 609-625-8143 ghelfrich@aclsys.org -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Cris Adams Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:22 PM To: PUBLIB Subject: [Publib] Technical Services Librarians For many years, the head of the department that does all the cataloging and processing of new materials has been called the Technical Services Librarian. She supervises two other people, receives new materials, puts them in OCLC, etc. We're curious about what title this staff member has in other libraries. Thanks in advance, Cris Adams Hobbs Public Library 509 N. Shipp Hobbs, NM 88240 _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From nbhilyard at zblibrary.org Wed May 10 17:38:53 2006 From: nbhilyard at zblibrary.org (Nann Blaine Hilyard) Date: Wed May 10 17:38:57 2006 Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans Message-ID: <9191C938D9F9504388C55F1225A34F79120898@ZBPLSRV04.zblibrary.local> Could you show the patron how to renew items online? Books from our general collection circulate for four weeks; allowing two renewals, that's three months. True, there is the risk that someone else could place a hold on the item during any one of the four-week sessions thus precluding more renewals. If she wants extended time to have in-demand bestsellers I'd have to say no, though. And ILLs from libraries within our consortium can usually be renewed as well -- the benefit of a multi-library online system. Nann @the library in Zion, Illinois ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Davis Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:04 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans We had a recent from a non-native English speaking patron who says it takes her several months to read a book in English, and wonders if we could give her an extended loan period on a regular basis. Has anyone ever encountered this situation before? Do you have patrons who are givben extended loan periods as a matter of course? While we certainly would not do this where ILLs are concerned, but we may consider it for our own items. Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks! Rachel Rachel Q. Davis Children's Librarian Thomas Memorial Library 6 Scott Dyer Road Cape Elizabeth, ME 04107 207-799-1720 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/780fea3e/attachment.htm From MMorris at daytonmetrolibrary.org Wed May 10 17:42:09 2006 From: MMorris at daytonmetrolibrary.org (Mimi Morris) Date: Wed May 10 17:42:14 2006 Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans Message-ID: <7898A79C279DB84281A9B3CEEDBA48F7016D3AB2@mail.DMCPL.local> I would be cautious about extending privileges to some patrons and not to others. While you want to help, it can open a can of worms. It's easier to say that you have unique privileges for a special group like teachers than to differentiate among individual patrons. How would a patron who, perhaps, is slightly dyslexic and reads slowly, feel about this privilege when he has been paying overdues for years? How do you decide when a new book becomes unpopular enough to meet your criteria for an extended loan, and what do you say to the patron who wants to know why it has been out so long? Just a thought! Mimi Morris Assistant Director for Branch and Extension Services Dayton Metro Library 215 E. Third Street Dayton, OH 45402 ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen McCorkle Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:20 PM To: PubLib Subject: Re: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans We extend the period for teachers using items in the classrooms, for our large print readers ex; one patron loves Tom Clancy but it takes him two months to get through one of his books and that is in LP. Maybe they are using it to learn English? Of course I wouldn't do that with a brand new very popular book. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rachel Davis To: publib@webjunction.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans We had a recent from a non-native English speaking patron who says it takes her several months to read a book in English, and wonders if we could give her an extended loan period on a regular basis. Has anyone ever encountered this situation before? Do you have patrons who are givben extended loan periods as a matter of course? While we certainly would not do this where ILLs are concerned, but we may consider it for our own items. Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks! Rachel Rachel Q. Davis Children's Librarian Thomas Memorial Library 6 Scott Dyer Road Cape Elizabeth, ME 04107 207-799-1720 ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/fbc1aa9a/attachment.htm From jrichmond at alphapark.org Wed May 10 17:58:52 2006 From: jrichmond at alphapark.org (John) Date: Wed May 10 17:58:48 2006 Subject: [Publib] Combining technical services librarians and religion Message-ID: 1) We call our Technical Services Librarian the Technical Services Librarian. That answers that, from Bartonville, USA. 2) Religion.... Oddly enough, during the five-plus years I lived in the piney woods of East TX, no one ever tried to engage me in lengthy conversations about conversion, church, and all that, in a public area. And they had plenty of chances, because I worked reference more than I ever do here. On the other hand--this is along the lines of a semi-related tangent--my wife and I found that nearly everyone we met (or so it seemed) did ask us if we had "a church home." Often we were invited to *their* "church home." In over five years as politely endured Yankee invaders, we were asked more times to go to church with people than we were asked to come to their *real* homes for a meal. We would have preferred the latter, 'cause it sure was lonely in that town, being outsiders, and all. One evening we were dining at one of the two Chinese (sic) restaurants in Palestine, where we encountered a fellow city employee and his wife. Wife asked us about church, and said we really ought to come to their church because the music was so great. We said that, well, we did have our own church, and we were settled at St. Philip's (that would be the Episcopal parish in town, BTW). Seems to me there was something else said, and we reiterated the fact that, yes, we had a church, etc., etc. The woman said, with some *emphasis*, "Yes, but the Episcopalians don't have church on SUNDAY NIGHT." (Ed. comment: Thank God.) I laughed and said, tongue-in-cheekish, that my Sunday evening sacrament was "60 Minutes," and the watching thereof. The woman looked at me blankly and/or as if I had come from another world--I had; it was/is called Illinois--and exchanged a few more pleasantries, then we all went our separate ways. John D. Richmond, Director Alpha Park Public Library District 3527 So. Airport Road Bartonville, IL 61607 Ph: 309-697-3822, x. 12 Fax: 309-697-9681 Email: jrichmond@alphapark.org _______________________________________________ When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy.? -- Ludwig van Beethoven From sedanlib at terraworld.net Wed May 10 17:59:03 2006 From: sedanlib at terraworld.net (Kathleen McCorkle) Date: Wed May 10 18:01:19 2006 Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans Message-ID: <003301c6747c$f7e89760$9b01a8c0@staff> Well since there are only about 1200 people here it does make it simpler. We like all libraries have many good books back in the stacks and it wouldn't present a hardship on our patrons if one of them were out for an extended time. Things are very different in larger cities I'm sure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mimi Morris To: Kathleen McCorkle Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: RE: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans I would be cautious about extending privileges to some patrons and not to others. While you want to help, it can open a can of worms. It's easier to say that you have unique privileges for a special group like teachers than to differentiate among individual patrons. How would a patron who, perhaps, is slightly dyslexic and reads slowly, feel about this privilege when he has been paying overdues for years? How do you decide when a new book becomes unpopular enough to meet your criteria for an extended loan, and what do you say to the patron who wants to know why it has been out so long? Just a thought! Mimi Morris Assistant Director for Branch and Extension Services Dayton Metro Library 215 E. Third Street Dayton, OH 45402 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen McCorkle Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:20 PM To: PubLib Subject: Re: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans We extend the period for teachers using items in the classrooms, for our large print readers ex; one patron loves Tom Clancy but it takes him two months to get through one of his books and that is in LP. Maybe they are using it to learn English? Of course I wouldn't do that with a brand new very popular book. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rachel Davis To: publib@webjunction.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans We had a recent from a non-native English speaking patron who says it takes her several months to read a book in English, and wonders if we could give her an extended loan period on a regular basis. Has anyone ever encountered this situation before? Do you have patrons who are givben extended loan periods as a matter of course? While we certainly would not do this where ILLs are concerned, but we may consider it for our own items. Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks! Rachel Rachel Q. Davis Children's Librarian Thomas Memorial Library 6 Scott Dyer Road Cape Elizabeth, ME 04107 207-799-1720 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman Kathleen McCorkle Sedan Public Library 115 N. Chautauqua Sedan, KS 67361 620 725 3405 sedanlib@terraworld.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/5d5de596/attachment.htm From court1824 at gmail.com Wed May 10 18:36:16 2006 From: court1824 at gmail.com (Courtney Stephens) Date: Wed May 10 18:36:20 2006 Subject: [Publib] Question about Collection Development policies Message-ID: **Please respond directly to kgrimenstein@williamson-tn.org** The Williamson County Public Library is in the process of updating and revising our Collection Development Policy. It has not been updated in several years. We would like to know how those of you who have made changes to your policies in recent years have approached the process. Thank you for taking the time to help other libraries and ours! 1. Did you review the policy a few pages at a time together as a committee or as individuals or did you approach it in a different way? 2. Would you be willing to share your policy with us so we can find ideas from it? 3. How did you approach specific issues like responsibility of materials selection among your staff? 4. Did you include the Library Bill of Rights in your policy-in consideration of censorship and filtering? This could be a touchy subject for all of us. Kathy Grimenstein Assistant Director Williamson County Public Library 1314 Columbia Avenue Franklin TN 37064 Voice: 615-595-1281 Fax: 615-595-1245 kgrimenstein@williamson-tn.org From glillevi at hcpl.net Wed May 10 18:41:13 2006 From: glillevi at hcpl.net (Grace Lillevig) Date: Wed May 10 18:41:23 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: Function of library restrooms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003401c67482$d78b7810$6d33a8c0@hcpl.net> When I was a reference librarian several years ago, we had a couple of teenagers hide out in the bathroom at closing and use it for their, uh, "amorous interlude." I'm glad I wasn't the girl the guy was trying to impress. Grace _____________ Grace Lillevig eBranch Librarian Harris County Public Library your pathway to knowledge 8080 El Rio St. Houston, TX 77054 713-749-9000 grace@hcpl.net From lchlebanowski at avondale.org Wed May 10 18:47:54 2006 From: lchlebanowski at avondale.org (Lise Chlebanowski) Date: Wed May 10 18:47:59 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library Message-ID: Or a variation on the theme (to avoid the next question: 'who told you?') is "I'm not allowed to discuss..." Lis? Chlebanowski Library Manager Avondale Public Library 328 W. Western Ave. Avondale, AZ 85323 623-478-3105 ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Darla Wegener Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:40 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: RE: [Publib] Religion at the library Try saying "I was told not to discuss religion, politics, or sex at work. May I help you with another question?" I used something like this with a patron trying to "convert me" to his politically ideology and it worked. I also joked with him that I only discussed these three things with my husband. Darla Wegener Director of Library Services Lincoln Public Library 590 Fifth Street Lincoln, CA 95648 916 645-6377 ________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/e44a7746/attachment.htm From kgs at bluehighways.com Wed May 10 19:02:46 2006 From: kgs at bluehighways.com (K.G. Schneider) Date: Wed May 10 19:02:53 2006 Subject: [Publib] FW: [LITA-L:3107] We are sending ours - are you sending yours? Message-ID: <003d01c67485$da601480$6401a8c0@venus> _____ From: owner-lita-l@ala.org [mailto:owner-lita-l@ala.org] On Behalf Of Howard Spivak Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:58 PM To: Library and Information Technology Association List Subject: [LITA-L:3107] We are sending ours - are you sending yours? Fellow LITA members, Please pass this on to the appropriate persons in your library. It would also be appreciated if you would post this on other library related listservs that you subscribe to. Help New Orleans (and Your Library ) Send Your Library Technologists to New Orleans (This message is being cross-posted; please excuse any duplication.) Brooklyn College is sending several IT and Systems professionals to ALA's annual conference. We feel the return is well worth the investment. Are you sending yours? Remember that advance registration and advance registration rates end after May 19, 2006. LITA (Library & Information Technology Association) and ALA (American Library Association) invite IT and other professionals with Library technology responsibilities to join them for ALA 's annual conference in New Orleans, June 24-27, 2006. There they will meet and swap idea with librarians, other IT professionals and vendors, and discuss current and upcoming trends affecting your library. LITA is sponsoring a wide variety of informative preconferences and programs on topics including: * Free eReserves: Saving Money, Saving Time, and Expanding Services with Open Source Software * Future Directions for Digital Library Initiatives: Addressing the Challenges of Collaboration and Sustainability * Open Source Programs for the Reference Librarian: When your Budget is More Limited than your Vision * Podcasting the Classroom: Implications, and Implementations of Podcasting for Teaching and Learning * President's Program: Internet culture: What do we know about user behavior? * RFID in Libraries: An International Perspective * Top Technology Trends There is something to interest everyone! Please come and learn how technology is being used in a multiplicity of library settings. LITA Interest Groups include: Heads of Library Technology; Digital Library Technologies; Electronic Publishing/Electronic Journals; Emerging Technologies; Technology and the Arts; and many more. For more information about the Annual Conference go to http://www.ala.org/ala/eventsandconferencesb/annual/2006a/2006an.htm See you in New Orleans. Howard Spivak Director Academic Information Technologies Brooklyn College, CUNY howards@brooklyn.cuny.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060510/a6be7a93/attachment.htm From pm2it at hotmail.com Wed May 10 19:22:52 2006 From: pm2it at hotmail.com (Peter Tuite) Date: Wed May 10 19:22:56 2006 Subject: [Publib] Programs by area businesses. Message-ID: Our system usually doesnt approve any program offered by "for-profit entities". Recently, a rep from a doctor who specializes in hearing approached me about offering free hearing tests for seniors. They agreed not to promote their practice or distribute promotional materials. I submitted the program but it was denied by the Progamming office because its a for-profit entity and because the health angle presented possible liability issues. A Smith-Barney employee wanted to present personal finance programs as a way of "giving back", and also promised not to promote his company or his personal services. I havent heard back on that one, but it will probably be denied as well. I think that, as soon as he mentions he is from Smith-Barney, he will have provided advertising for them. On the other hand, a local bookstore routinely sells books at our author programs. From pklein at rdpl.org Wed May 10 20:09:43 2006 From: pklein at rdpl.org (Trish Klein) Date: Wed May 10 20:10:10 2006 Subject: [Publib] intermingling reference books with circulating books Message-ID: Hi, I am posting this question for my boss, our adult services librarian. She learned at PLA of the trend toward intermingling reference books with circulating books and is wondering if anyone has tried this and what the results were. She is hoping by putting little used reference books in with the regular stacks, that they will get more usage (they would still be noncirculating books). Any one have any experience with this, especially in a medium sized library? Thanks, Trish Trish Klein pklein@rdpl.org Readers' Services Coordinator Red Deer Public Library 4818-49 St. Red Deer, AB T4N 1T9 403-342-9110 Fax: 403-341-3110 From BMcree at florencelibrary.org Wed May 10 23:05:19 2006 From: BMcree at florencelibrary.org (Bill McRee) Date: Wed May 10 23:05:29 2006 Subject: [Publib] Fwd: [Scla-list] Literacy collections Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: "Norman Belk" To: scla-list@scla.org Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 19:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Scla-list] Literacy collections Hello! I am working on a five year plan for developing up-to-date literacy collections throughout the Pickens County Library System. I am looking for any guidance you might be able to give. I am looking for vendors of appropriate materials, what works and what does not. Any help you can give will be much appreciated. If your library has such a plan in place, I would really like to see that if I may. If you are also a member of the Public Library Association listserv (I am "updating" my membership) I would be pleased if you passed this inquiry along. Thank you for your time. Norman ^*^*^*^*^*^ Norman Belk Cell: 864-787-1244 e-mail: NormanBelk@excite.com "Anyone who tries to make a distinction between education and entertainment doesn't know the first thing about either." Marshall McLuhan _______________________________________________ Scla-list mailing list Scla-list@scla.org http://seven.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/scla-list From cynthia.eagan at gmail.com Thu May 11 07:46:15 2006 From: cynthia.eagan at gmail.com (Cynthia Eagan) Date: Thu May 11 07:46:19 2006 Subject: [Publib] Re: ESL classes Message-ID: <882f9fff0605110446r4f4b08a3id8972fe704ccd98d@mail.gmail.com> We opened in March 2006, and are fortunate to have a wonderful meeting room. One of our first community partners is an ESL class affiliated with a local university (which charges). Initially, we were just going to be a "one-time" field trip location, but we seem to be a good fit. The word is on the street; folks come by asking about this class, and the school would like to do more with us. The only thing: when they meet here, they must be open to the public, which they are. This may affect future offerings, however. Holding a weekly conversational class (especially if it mostly runs itself) sounds promising. Cynthia Eagan/Children's Librarian Campbell Branch Library 8733 W. Vernor Detroit MI 48209 ceagan@detroit.lib.mi.us From kknight at granvillecounty.org Thu May 11 09:02:59 2006 From: kknight at granvillecounty.org (Katie Knight) Date: Thu May 11 09:03:06 2006 Subject: [Publib] RE: Religion at the library In-Reply-To: <4461EBE3.A3EF.00F0.0@williamson„tn.org> Message-ID: Hi again, All of you have given me some wonderful advice. Redirecting the question (would you like to see some research about the Nag Hammadi scrolls?) and/or letting the patron know that I'm not at liberty/do not feel comfortable/flat out refuse (I think it will depend on the patron) to discuss my religious views while I'm at work sounds both diplomatic and firm. For me, as I'm a pretty new librarian, finding the fine line between setting personal boundries and being approachable at the reference desk has been one of the biggest challenges of my job. Especially here in the South, where, as many of you observed, religion and other personal topics are frequently seen as acceptable conversation starters as, say, talking about your pet. And it truly is amazing what some folks will choose to tell you.... Thanks again, everyone, -Katie Katie Knight Adult Services Librarian Granville County Public Library System Thornton Library 210 Main Street Oxford, NC 27565 Phone: 919 693-1121 Fax: 919 693-2244 From cjo at elkhart.lib.in.us Thu May 11 09:23:05 2006 From: cjo at elkhart.lib.in.us (Connie Jo Ozinga) Date: Thu May 11 11:12:12 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion in the library Message-ID: Last year another manager and I sat down to speak to a patron who had been preaching religion to middle school age kids in the library, and refusing to stop even when a parent asked him to. We told him it had to stop, he told us he was going to the paper to tell them we were infringing his right of free speech. Ha. Then he asked me if I was a Christian. When I refused to answer, he got a strange look on his face, held up his hands forming a cross with his fingers and began yelling "You're Satan, You're Satan, get away from me Satan." I will admit to being freaked out by it. OTOH I grew up in the Dutch part of Michigan where pretty much everyone went to one of two related Dutch Reformed church demoninations. It was very normal to ask where you went to church, because everyone did. Several times a week. Sunday was very serious. I've lived elsewhere for most of my adult years, but still have trouble with the fact that people actually mow their lawns on Sunday. My good Dutch grandma would have called that "sputtin" (sp?) which as far as I have figured out was some kind of Dutch for blasphemy. Connie Connie Jo Ozinga, Director cjo@elkhart.lib.in.us (574)522-3333 www.elkhart.lib.in.us Elkhart Public Library Elkhart, IN 46516 The Elkhart Public Library provides access to resources which inform, educate, enlighten and entertain our diverse community.....Books are just the beginning. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060511/e91bc5c8/attachment.htm From bmichaels at ccls.org Thu May 11 09:53:48 2006 From: bmichaels at ccls.org (Beverly Michaels) Date: Thu May 11 11:12:14 2006 Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans Message-ID: <5DA0B469C9B3704AA2F4711689033B6E4E26BC@temperance.ccls.org> We are a bit larger, but we offer extended borrowing priviledges to virtually anyone who asks, for all kinds of reasons (most often, it seems, a long vacation-- I wish I could have one of those!). We don't have to decide what new books or best sellers to exclude, because the popular books will have holds on them, and in that situation the checkout system prevents any extension of the borrowing period. My feeling is that the books belong to the patrons, and so long as we know where they are and when they're coming back, it makes little difference whether they're on the library's shelf or a patron's shelf. Just my opinion... Beverly Michaels Circulation Services Tredyffrin Public Library 610-688-7092, ext 201 -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Kathleen McCorkle Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:59 PM To: PubLib Subject: Re: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans Well since there are only about 1200 people here it does make it simpler. We like all libraries have many good books back in the stacks and it wouldn't present a hardship on our patrons if one of them were out for an extended time. Things are very different in larger cities I'm sure. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mimi Morris To: Kathleen McCorkle Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: RE: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans I would be cautious about extending privileges to some patrons and not to others. While you want to help, it can open a can of worms. It's easier to say that you have unique privileges for a special group like teachers than to differentiate among individual patrons. How would a patron who, perhaps, is slightly dyslexic and reads slowly, feel about this privilege when he has been paying overdues for years? How do you decide when a new book becomes unpopular enough to meet your criteria for an extended loan, and what do you say to the patron who wants to know why it has been out so long? Just a thought! Mimi Morris Assistant Director for Branch and Extension Services Dayton Metro Library 215 E. Third Street Dayton, OH 45402 _____ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen McCorkle Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:20 PM To: PubLib Subject: Re: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans We extend the period for teachers using items in the classrooms, for our large print readers ex; one patron loves Tom Clancy but it takes him two months to get through one of his books and that is in LP. Maybe they are using it to learn English? Of course I wouldn't do that with a brand new very popular book. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rachel Davis To: publib@webjunction.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: [Publib] non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans We had a recent from a non-native English speaking patron who says it takes her several months to read a book in English, and wonders if we could give her an extended loan period on a regular basis. Has anyone ever encountered this situation before? Do you have patrons who are givben extended loan periods as a matter of course? While we certainly would not do this where ILLs are concerned, but we may consider it for our own items. Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thanks! Rachel Rachel Q. Davis Children's Librarian Thomas Memorial Library 6 Scott Dyer Road Cape Elizabeth, ME 04107 207-799-1720 _____ _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman Kathleen McCorkle Sedan Public Library 115 N. Chautauqua Sedan, KS 67361 620 725 3405 sedanlib@terraworld.net This Chester County Library System e-mail message, including any attachments, is intended for the sole use of the individual(s) and entity(ies) to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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I?m looking for names of Famous Indiana women in the fields of Science and Fashion. I was hoping that Publibers would be able to help! Thank you, Melissa Melissa Callahan Technology Coordinator/Audiovisual Librarian Fayette County Public Library 828 Grand Avenue Connersville, IN 47331 765-827-0883 The views in this message are not necessarily those of the Fayette County Public Library _____ << ella for Spam Control >> has removed 503 Spam messages and set aside 306 Newsletters for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! www.ellaforspam.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060511/0048b042/attachment.htm From remnilk at hotmail.com Thu May 11 10:13:51 2006 From: remnilk at hotmail.com (Buzzy Nielsen) Date: Thu May 11 11:12:18 2006 Subject: [Publib] Churches & libraries? Message-ID: Hello all, To follow-up on the great conversation about discussing religion in the public library, I have a slightly different question: what are effective strategies for working with churches, temples, and other religious institutions? I used to direct a small public library, and the churches were a crucial part of the community. However, few people who attended the churches came to the library. Nonetheless, it seemed like the churches would be a very beneficial partner in promoting library events, developing collections, and reaching new patrons. However, despite the benefits, the potential for proselytizing, challenges, and generally turning off other patrons worried me. Do any of you have suggestions or examples of how to effectively partner with religious organizations? Any thoughts would be most appreciated. Cheers! Buzzy Nielsen Dual degree candidate, 2008 School of Information Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy University of Michigan, Ann Arbor _________________________________________________________________ Enter the Windows Live Mail beta sweepstakes http://www.imagine-msn.com/minisites/sweepstakes/mail/register.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060511/3e113408/attachment.htm From adam.davis at delraylibrary.org Thu May 11 10:21:52 2006 From: adam.davis at delraylibrary.org (Adam Davis) Date: Thu May 11 11:12:19 2006 Subject: [Publib] intermingling reference books with circulating books Message-ID: <8CCC182E71B59A47AF5114A25FD9BE68024DDB@svr2exchange.DelrayLibrary.local> Trish - We have sections of reference non-circulating books amongst circulating non-fiction. We're actually going to be moving those sections out of circulating stacks, because patrons think that they can check out reference materials due to their location. Adam S. Davis Reference & Young Adult Librarian Delray Beach Public Library 100 West Atlantic Avenue Delray Beach, FL 33444 adam.davis@delraylibrary.org (ph) 561-266-0196 (f) 561-266-9757 -----Original Message----- From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Trish Klein Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:10 PM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] intermingling reference books with circulating books Hi, I am posting this question for my boss, our adult services librarian. She learned at PLA of the trend toward intermingling reference books with circulating books and is wondering if anyone has tried this and what the results were. She is hoping by putting little used reference books in with the regular stacks, that they will get more usage (they would still be noncirculating books). Any one have any experience with this, especially in a medium sized library? Thanks, Trish Trish Klein pklein@rdpl.org Readers' Services Coordinator Red Deer Public Library 4818-49 St. Red Deer, AB T4N 1T9 403-342-9110 Fax: 403-341-3110 _______________________________________________ Publib mailing list Publib@webjunction.org http://lists.webjunction.org/mailman/listinfo/publib From jrichmond at alphapark.org Thu May 11 10:24:18 2006 From: jrichmond at alphapark.org (John) Date: Thu May 11 11:12:20 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion (Part the Second) and (not in) restrooms Message-ID: 1) Second thoughts on the religion thing: I am of an age that I was taught, when but a youth, and in all seriousness, that one did not talk about politics, religion, or a woman's age in public. (I also was taught to hold open car doors and regular doors for women and to walk on the edge of the sidewalk nearest the street, when walking with a woman. And to stand behind my mother's or grandmother's or a female houseguest's chair at the beginning of meals, to help them with getting their chair moved/pushed that few extra inches to the table. Wow. Am I ever OLD.) This was taught to me as Tradition. Since Southerners are big into Tradition, I don't know why a librarian in No. Carolina couldn't say, lightly and with a hint of humor, "You know, my mama taught me never...," etc., and thereby attempt to end conversations re: religion. Of course, I also understand the religious fervor of some people, regardless of geography, so maybe it wouldn't work. 2) I am still startled when I walk into a restroom and hear someone talking on his cell phone, while enthroned in the stall. My first, split-second reaction generally is, "Someone is talking to me"--but then I realize that I am merely being reminded of the portability of technology. And the shamelessness of some people who think that the world, even the confined world of a public restroom, and the people who transitorily dwell therein, is interested in their most intimate business. There are times when I think that some of the social niceties that I learned at my mother's knee--figuratively, not literally--weren't all that bad, and still *aren't* all that bad. John D. Richmond, Director Alpha Park Public Library District 3527 So. Airport Road Bartonville, IL 61607 Ph: 309-697-3822, x. 12 Fax: 309-697-9681 Email: jrichmond@alphapark.org _______________________________________________ When I open my eyes I must sigh, for what I see is contrary to my religion, and I must despise the world which does not know that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy.? -- Ludwig van Beethoven From sthorup at faylib.org Thu May 11 11:02:12 2006 From: sthorup at faylib.org (Shawna Thorup) Date: Thu May 11 11:12:22 2006 Subject: [Publib] Patron self-registration Message-ID: <758A4418DFB12346854072E3E46B876B42F996@mail.faylib.org> Our library uses the Polaris Integrated Library System. Polaris makes it easy to implement patron self-registration. You can enable the service (or not) with one simple setting. You can decide whether a message of some sort shows up before the patron fills out the form and customize the content of the message. You can designate who on your library staff receives self-registration forms. The web form is easy for the patron to fill out. Submitting the web form gives the patron real-time confirmation and a temporary identity that can be used immediately to place holds or be authenticated for access to electronic resources. This is a real benefit if the patron is self-registering from home -- he or she can have immediate access to library resources without having to wait for their card to arrive in the mail. The final step is to stop at the service desk to pick up the card so that the permanent patron ID can be used for all library services. The library is free to impose other requirements (or not) at the point the patron picks up the permanent card. Some Polaris libraries point patrons to workstations to self-register, even if the patron is in the library. This saves time for both patron and circulation staff. We are working out the procedures and plan to turn this great feature on soon. Hope this helps! Shawna Thorup Assistant Director Fayetteville Public Library 401 W. Mountain St. Fayetteville, AR 72701 phone: 479.571.2222 x4301 fax: 479.571.0222 www.faylib.org Our mission is to strengthen our community and empower our citizens through free and public access to knowledge. Fayetteville Public Library: Library Journal's 2005 Library of the Year -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060511/e37e472b/attachment.htm From librarybob at gmail.com Thu May 11 11:10:53 2006 From: librarybob at gmail.com (Bob Watson) Date: Thu May 11 11:12:23 2006 Subject: [Publib] Non-native English speaking patrons and extended loans Message-ID: I'm rather doubtful that a policy can be written to cover all possibilities. This may simply be a case where the library director must decide whether or not to make an exception based on need ... assuming he/she has that power. Perhaps an arrangement can be made for "non-new titles" for one year, by which time the non-native speaker may well be able to read more quickly. Bob Watson Director Lake Villa District Library Lake Villa, IL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060511/8eb353f8/attachment.htm From Carolyn.Rawles-Heiser at ci.corvallis.or.us Thu May 11 11:38:59 2006 From: Carolyn.Rawles-Heiser at ci.corvallis.or.us (Rawles-Heiser, Carolyn) Date: Thu May 11 11:39:02 2006 Subject: [Publib] Churches & libraries? Message-ID: <2CA3A9CBA1D1B448AC9F45A005A203D00316371F@CVOEXCHANGE.ci.corvallis.or.us> What we did was proactively develop a relationship with one evangelical pastor who recommended titles for our library that would be useful for his clientele (he operates a Christian counseling service). I also asked if I could meet with a local group of pastors and my contact provided the introduction. I talked about the materials we already had, handed out material request forms for them to use, talked about the availability of meeting and display space at the library, and encouraged them to send us links to their church home pages to add to our community pages. I think they appreciated that the library was interested in working with them and that we truly did want to serve the whole community and provide a wide range of materials. They seemed to "get" the concept of intellectual freedom and that it benefits everyone including those of a conservative religious orientation. We later had a group of people try to get us to install filters, and interestingly, nobody from this evangelical group participated in that effort. Of course, we are a liberal college town so this may not be the case everywhere! Carolyn Carolyn Rawles-Heiser Library Director Corvallis--Benton County Public Library 645 NW Monroe Ave. Corvallis, OR 97330 (541)766-6910 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060511/aec53877/attachment.htm From nbhilyard at zblibrary.org Thu May 11 11:41:51 2006 From: nbhilyard at zblibrary.org (Nann Blaine Hilyard) Date: Thu May 11 11:42:06 2006 Subject: [Publib] Churches & libraries? Message-ID: <9191C938D9F9504388C55F1225A34F791208A0@ZBPLSRV04.zblibrary.local> Mike Wessells at the Timberland Regional Library is both a librarian and an ordained Pentecostal minister. He's also an intellectual freedom advocate. He advises that librarians get to know the pastors of the local churches as a pre-emptive move -- if you know the pastors in the Ministerial Alliance and they know you, it will be easier when someone wants to censor something. Re: Partnerships. Earlier this year the women's club of a local church co-sponsored a program at the library. (It was an antiques appraiser. The club couldn't afford to pay his entire fee, so we split it. I was delighted because many of the club members hadn't been to previous library programs. Great success.) A partnership from long ago: Brenham/Washington County, Texas, is also a church-going community. When I lived there there were 18 Lutheran churches and 16 Baptist churches in the county (plus Presybterians, Episcopalians, Catholics, Methodists, and many black churches, both denom. and non-denom). The library was given an AV collection when the Lutheran church that housed it gave it up. The collection had fFilmstrips and 16mm films. I never got around to properly cataloging it; easy enough to look at the list and retrieve whatever was wanted. The in-demand item was "Here I Stand," the life of Martin Luther, and that's why I remember when Reformation Sunday is. It was a nice way to provide a service to the community. The church libraries in my experience have been miscellaneous collections of devotionals, left-over Adult Sunday School discussion books, and Bible study guides from each decade of the century. I think that it would be better to refer parishioners to the public library. (They could use the church library budget to increase the pastor's salary. ) I feel the same way about my quilt guild's library. I don't think we should have one--instead, encourage the public libraries where the members live to keep up their quilt book collections; maybe give an annual donation to each library. (Public libraries are equipped to catalog, lend, and *get back* books. Quilt guilds aren't.) Nann @the library in Zion, Illinois ________________________________ From: publib-bounces@webjunction.org [mailto:publib-bounces@webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Buzzy Nielsen Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:14 AM To: publib@webjunction.org Subject: [Publib] Churches & libraries? Hello all, To follow-up on the great conversation about discussing religion in the public library, I have a slightly different question: what are effective strategies for working with churches, temples, and other religious institutions? I used to direct a small public library, and the churches were a crucial part of the community. However, few people who attended the churches came to the library. Nonetheless, it seemed like the churches would be a very beneficial partner in promoting library events, developing collections, and reaching new patrons. However, despite the benefits, the potential for proselytizing, challenges, and generally turning off other patrons worried me. Do any of you have suggestions or examples of how to effectively partner with religious organizations? Any thoughts would be most appreciated. Cheers! Buzzy Nielsen Dual degree candidate, 2008 School of Information Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy University of Michigan, Ann Arbor ________________________________ Upgrade for free to Windows Live Mail beta and you could win an African Safari Learn more -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think it's also amazing what some people will tell everyone w/in listening distance because they're on their cell phone in public not thinking about the fact that they are now broadcasting that info they learned at their most recent "pick a Dr." visit. :-) People never cease to amaze me, which is both the joy and the frustration of working in a public service agency. Mary J. Soucie, MLIS Library Director Wilmington Public Library District Visit the world @ your library(tm) 201 S Kankakee St, Wilmington IL 60481 815-476-2834 Phone 815-476-7805 Fax mailto:mjsoucie@wilmingtonlibrary.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.webjunction.org/wjlists/publib/attachments/20060511/2443d3f2/attachment.htm From kelleher at msu.edu Thu May 11 13:03:47 2006 From: kelleher at msu.edu (Angela Marie Kelleher) Date: Thu May 11 13:04:26 2006 Subject: [Publib] Public librarians: volunteer to review resume's at Annual Message-ID: Ready to give back? Volunteer to be a Reviewer for NMRT's Resume Review Service and make a difference in a librarian's career! We are seeking librarians with significant experience in human resources, the hiring process or search committees to review resumes & cover letters at the ALA Annual Conference in New Orleans, LA. This service is sponsored by NMRT to assist job seekers new to the profession. Who may apply to be a reviewer? Librarians in any area (cataloging, reference, management, technical services, etc.) and in any setting (public, academic, school, special, archives, vendor, etc) with significant experience in human resources, the hiring process, or search committees. How does it work? Reviewers meet with a job seeker for 30 minutes and give constructive advice on how to improve his or her resume and/or cover letter. Reviewers comment on overall presentation, layout, organization, content and spelling/grammar issues. More information at http://nmrtrrs.wikispaces.com Location: In the ALA Placement Center in Hall J on Level 1 of the Morial Convention Center Dates/Times: Friday (6/23): 12 noon - 5 pm Saturday (6/24): 9 am - 5 pm Sunday (6/25): 9 am - 5 pm Monday (6/26): 9am - 1 pm Schedule: Reviewers are scheduled for one-hour time slots, however you may volunteer for more than one day and/or time-slot. To see what slots are available, please see http://nmrtrrs.wikispaces.com/annual06 How to apply: Send the following information to the NMRT Resume Review Service, nmmrtrrs@yahoo.com ------------------------------------- Reviewer Application for Annual 2006: 1. I would feel comfortable reviewing for (list all that apply): Type of Library: Area of Expertise: 2. Qualifications (please write a few sentences regarding your experience with hiring, search committees, or human resources): 3. Preferred Date(s) and Time(s): -------------------------------------- Not going to New Orleans? We are always seeking reviewers for our year-round e-mail service. For more information, http://nmrtrrs.wikispaces.com/Resume+Reviewerstoken=b6b4c69cfd88678446f5d184 3c931cd6 Thank you from Dawn Lowe-Wincentsen, Chair(dlowewin@mailer.fsu.edu), and the NMRT Resume Review Service Committee http://nmrtrrs.wikispaces.com/ Angie Kelleher Access Services Librarian Alma College From phenriksen at neflin.org Thu May 11 13:16:57 2006 From: phenriksen at neflin.org (Phalbe Henriksen) Date: Thu May 11 13:19:38 2006 Subject: [Publib] going from Gates' Foundation's NT to XP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060511131549.01df57b0@neflin.org> Folks, Does anyone know which kid's games will work on XP? Thanks. Phalbe **************************************************** Phalbe Henriksen Director Bradford County Public Library 105 E. Jackson St. Starke, FL 32091-3396 bradford@neflin.org / phenriksen@neflin.org v (904) 964-6400 fax (904) 964-9463 "Just who is Elsie, and why do we always do what she says, even though she never comes to any meetings?" From kimreadthis at gmail.com Thu May 11 13:20:21 2006 From: kimreadthis at gmail.com (Kim Read) Date: Thu May 11 13:20:31 2006 Subject: [Publib] PBS Program Clubs Message-ID: <8a9fcbc0605111020tfee3afam2c37b7c291f22b3c@mail.gmail.com> Has anyone held a PBS Program Club as a library event for adult patrons? I just came across the website (http://www.pbs.org/pbsprogramclub/) and was wondering if anyone had any experiences to share regarding using this in a library setting. Thanks for any input, Kim Read From mgolrick at brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us Thu May 11 13:28:20 2006 From: mgolrick at brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Michael Golrick) Date: Thu May 11 13:28:24 2006 Subject: [Publib] Overdue thanks Message-ID: <3DA7F4D78EB9F04FA868B8CABF41CF94F689A0@bptlibex01.brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us> Hi- It's been almost a week and a half since the ALA Election results were announced. I was fortunate enough to have been elected as a Councilor-at-Large. I wanted to take this opportunity to thank those of you who voted for me (and you know who you are). I will miss being on the ALA Executive Board, but am pleased to be able to continue in service to the Association. Since I consider "all y'all" (I am from Southern Connecticut) to be an important part of my constituency, please feel free to contact me over ALA related issues. Again thanks. [This was partly prompted by John Richmond's rumination on manners.] Michael Golrick ALA Executive Board City Librarian, Bridgeport Public Library http://michaelgolrick.blogspot.com From edward_elsner at lycos.com Thu May 11 13:50:36 2006 From: edward_elsner at lycos.com (Edward Elsner) Date: Thu May 11 13:50:50 2006 Subject: [Publib] Religion at the library Message-ID: <20060511175036.69D5DCA17A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Normally I'll talk with people about broad topics at the library (i.e. I'm an independent and believe everyone should be voting for third parties, but nothing on a local candidate or even a state candidate or issue...unless it was going to hurt = BAD or help = GOOD the library). So, that's the politics answer. Sex life?? No way. Fastest way I know of getting fired or sued. Whatever you do, if you respond, you open yourself up for all sorts of trouble. If people ask for my home phone number, I suggest they look in the phone book as anyone can. If they are going to be donating a lot of time or funds to the library, I'd gladly hand it out. Overall, guide them to the resources we have at our library or that are available to everyone in print or online. "You shouldn't be expected to accept sexual harrassment, so why accept any other harrassment? --Joshua M. Neff" Depending on policy at your library, you may be expected to accept many things which could be considered harrassment. People can, and do, talk to librarians about anything and everything...sometimes even very personal medical conditions or life troubles. We are supposed to listen for their questions and work to clarify them and then help them find the resources to answer or deal with these questions. It's a high wire act. Enjoy the excitement! Edward Elsner, Director & Consultant Delton District Library P.O. Box 155 Delton, MI 49046 (269) 623-8040 ddl@mei.net -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 From weissman at main.morris.org Thu May 11 14:06:00 2006 From: weissman at main.morris.org (Sara Weissman) Date: Thu May 11 14:05:53 2006 Subject: [Publib] re: print management Message-ID: <15280.192.168.54.254.1147370760.squirrel@192.168.54.254> From: "Lin Light" We have just switched from VendPrint to Pharos for both print and computer session management. So far so VERY VERY GOOD! Lin Light From library at ci.gallup.nm.us Wed May 10 13:59:25 2006 From: library at ci.gallup.nm.us (Mary Browder) Date: Thu May 11 14:08:34 2006 Subject: [Publib] Quiet and computers Message-ID: <446229FD.4010302@ci.gallup.nm.us> I believe in giving the library users what they want if it is at all feasible. We have done surveys every five years asking how the public perceives the library and what they want changed and what they would like to remain the same. We give out surveys in the library and sent them out with utility bills, which is an interesting juxtaposition since the bills went up wildly this year. However, the responses were interesting. We got requests for computer access, and we have 42 public access computers in two buildings. We got requests for a quiet area, and we have a specifically labeled QUIET AREA for people to read or work on projects or whatever. We also do a usage of the library survey every five years. Every half hour a staff member goes thro