[PUBLIB] Re:Melissa's question of 2 weeks ago (fwd)

PUBLIB plib2 at webjunction.org
Wed Oct 31 20:42:45 EST 2001


Sender: "Elizabeth Egan" <eegan at camden.lib.nj.us>
Subject: Re:Melissa's question of 2 weeks ago

Just getting to my publib email of some weeks ago and thought I'd share this
story, even if the string is old.

Several years ago this library had a regular patron who borrowed everything
we had on execution, and developed a particular interest in hanging as a
method for the state to execute prisoners (at least we gleaned this form the
titles he ILL'd). We ILL'd everything we could find for him, he would cruise
the internet for hours doing research. He was a regular patron for months,
and though we thought he could use some other interests in life, we never
thought that it was more than just a morbid hobby (he didn't look like a
scholar, but I'm probably reflecting our prejudices with that
observation...).

One day we saw his obituary in the newspaper. Shortly after that we learned
that he had hanged himself. (In the course of things we've learned that a
person is hanged, not hung.)

The reference staff was horrified and felt guilty that we had given him all
the information he needed to do the deed. But we have to realize that in the
face of legitmate requests for information we can't always predict how
someone will use the knowledge. He didn't appear depressed (how would we
know?) was always chipper...

What would you have done differently?

Elizabeth Egan,
Director
Gloucester City NJ Library



----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:18 PM
Subject: [PUBLIB] PUBLIB digest 1832


>     PUBLIB Digest 1832
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
>   1) Alternative internet resources on the war
> by hudsonm at eiNetwork.Net (Mark Hudson)
>   2) Position available - King County Library System -WA (fwd)
> by PUBLIB <plib2 at webjunction.org>
>   3) Sno-Isle Regional Library Job Postings for the Week of October 16
> by Valerie Worrell <VWorrell at sno-isle.org>
>   4) IFRT Preconference: Call for Volunteers
> by Melora Ranney <macbeth at saturn.caps.maine.edu>
>   5)
> by Sung Kong <kong2 at mailbox.sc.edu>
>   6) YA Surveys
> by Deanna Herlong <DeannaHerlong at fcds.org>
>   7) CIPA Legal Defense: Please Help
> by "Don Wood" <dwood at ala.org>
>   8) LJ needs pix!!
> by PUBLIB <plib2 at webjunction.org>
>   9) Library Labor Sources - follow up question
> by Theyer <theyer at pacbell.net>
>  10) RE: PUBLIB digest 1831
> by "Thomas J. Hennen Jr." <thennen at haplr-index.com>
>  11) Re: Book drop security
> by Gerard Mittelstaedt <mittelst at mcallen.lib.tx.us>
>  12) NY Times article on Cindy Deuel, genealogist and Sept 11th
> by GenAnnual at aol.com
>  13) re: book drop security
> by Julie Bauer <alligator95 at yahoo.com>
>  14) Book drop security
> by Lauffer at jcl.lib.ks.us
>  15) Re:
> by "James B. Casey" <jimcasey at lib.oak-lawn.il.us>
>  16) American Youth Corps
> by BarbaraW6 at aol.com
>  17) RE: Book Drop Security
> by Kate Wolicki <Kwolicki at nileslibrary.org>
>  18) Subject: Re: Position Opening (revised)
> by "rkb" <info at inmybook.com>
>  19) re: Melissa
> by PUBLIB <plib2 at webjunction.org>
>  20) Re: - 15 yr old seeking Final Exit
> by Gerard Mittelstaedt <mittelst at mcallen.lib.tx.us>
>  21) TV habits survey
> by PUBLIB <plib2 at webjunction.org>
>  22) Computers in the library
> by Gail Lancaster <glanca55 at yahoo.com>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 1
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:17:14 -0700 (PDT)
> From: hudsonm at eiNetwork.Net (Mark Hudson)
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: Alternative internet resources on the war
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110161917120.5891-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Here's a list of internet resources on the current world situation that
> represent "alternative" viewpoints, i.e. perspectives one is very
> unlikely to encounter on television or in your local newspapers. It's a
> short list, suitable for a one-page handout; there's a much more
> extensive compilation of resources on the International Responsibilities
> Task Force (IRTF) website:
>
> http://www.pitt.edu/~ttwiss/irtf/Alternative.html
>
> Mark Hudson, MA, MLIS
> Adult Librarian
> Carnegie Free Library of Swissvale
> 1800 Monongahela Avenue
> Pittsburgh, PA 15218
> 412-731-2300
> http://www.einpgh.org/ein/swissval
>
> ***********************************************************
>
> ALTERNATIVE INTERNET RESOURCES ON THE WAR AGAINST TERRORISM
>
> The Alternative Information Center
> www.alternativenews.org
>
> AlterNet.org
> www.alternet.org
>
> American Friends Service Committee
> www.afsc.org
>
> Common Dreams News Center
> www.commondreams.org
>
> CounterPunch
> www.counterpunch.org
>
> Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting
> www.fair.org
>
> Foreign Policy in Focus
> www.fpif.org
>
> Independent Media Center
> www.indymedia.org
>
> Mid-East Realities
> www.middleeast.org/mernew.htm
>
> Middle East Research and Information Project
> www.merip.org
>
> The Nation
> www.thenation.com
>
> NoToWar
> www.tao.ca/~resist/NoToWar.html
>
> PeaceNet Links
> www.igc.org/igc/gateway/pnindex.html
>
> The Progressive
> www.progressive.org
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 2
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:17:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: PUBLIB <plib2 at webjunction.org>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: Position available - King County Library System -WA (fwd)
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110161917170.5891-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:31:45 -0700
> From: Christy Strzelecki <cstrzele at kcls.org>
> To: PUBLIB <plib2 at webjunction.org>
> Subject: Position available - King County Library System -WA
>
> KING COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM - FEDERAL WAY, WA
>
> Supervising Library Associate - FT
> King County Library System, Federal Way Regional Library
> Supervises pages & coordinates technical duties with the Library Technical
> Assistants.. Provide reference service for staff & patrons.  Provide
> troubleshooting/maintenance on PC's & library equipment & participates in
> planning for future technology needs. Requires: AA degree or equivalent in
> librarianship, computer or a related field or equivalent experience. Five
to
> eight yrs experience in a branch library operation that includes customer
> service, basic accounting, decision-making and general supervision.
> Classroom & on the job training in computer software installation,
> maintenance and upgrades.
> Application review starts 11/2/01. Send completed KCLS application to HR,
> King County Library System, 960 Newport Way NW, Issaquah WA 98027,
> 425-369-3224, Fax:425-369-3214. www.kcls.org EOE
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 3
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:22:02 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Valerie Worrell <VWorrell at sno-isle.org>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: Sno-Isle Regional Library Job Postings for the Week of October 16
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110161922000.5891-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Sno-Isle Regional Library System has a Librarian - Children's Services
> position open at the Arlington Library in Washington State. Job #0181 Open
> Until Filled. For more information and to obtain an application on this
> employment opportunity, please visit our website at www.sno-isle.org/jobs
> <http://www.sno-isle.org/jobs> or contact our Job line at (360) 651-7040.
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> ____________________________
>
> Sno-Isle Regional Library System has a  Managing Librarian III position
open
> at the Lynnwood Library in Washington State. Job #0157 Closes OPEN UNTIL
> FILLED. For more information and to obtain an application on this
employment
> opportunity, please visit our website at www.sno-isle.org/jobs
> <http://www.sno-isle.org/jobs> or contact our Job line at (360) 651-7040.
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> ____________________________
>
> Sno-Isle Regional Library System has a  Managing Librarian II position at
> the Marysville Library in Washington State. Job #0167 Closes OPEN UNTIL
> FILLED. For more information and to obtain an application on this
employment
> opportunity, please visit our website at www.sno-isle.org/jobs
> <http://www.sno-isle.org/jobs> or contact our Job line at (360) 651-7040.
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> ____________________________
>
> Sno-Isle Regional Library System has a Librarian I - Substitute open for
the
> South Region Libraries in Washington State. Job #0194 Closes 10/17/01. For
> more information and to obtain an application on this employment
> opportunity, please visit our website at www.sno-isle.org/jobs
> <http://www.sno-isle.org/jobs> or contact our Job line at (360) 651-7040.
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> ____________________________
>
>
> Thank you
> Valerie Worrell
> Sno-Isle Regional Library System
> Human Resources Department
> 360-651-7004
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 4
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:22:09 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Melora Ranney <macbeth at saturn.caps.maine.edu>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: IFRT Preconference: Call for Volunteers
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110161922070.5891-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> The Intellectual Freedom Round Table of the American Library Association
> is planning a preconference for this year's ALA Annual Conference in
> Atlanta. Leaders from Mainstream Loudoun and others will present
> *Defending Intellectual Freedom:  Grassroots Organizing 101,* on Friday,
> June 14 2002 from 7:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
>
> This preconference, which is intended as a primer for trustees, friends'
> groups, and anyone who may have a need for or interest in grassroots
> organizing in defense of intellectual freedom, will include information
> and background on legal and ethical issues, plus an opportunity to
> interact with experienced organizers on the practical issues involved.
>
> Dr. Laurence Miller will facilitate the day's events.  To volunteer or for
> information, contact coordinator Melora Ranney at
> macbeth at saturn.caps.maine.edu , melora at ctel.net, or 207.377.8674.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 5
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:22:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Sung Kong <kong2 at mailbox.sc.edu>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110161922130.5891-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> I'm a graduate student in library & information science. I'd like to share
one
> another's opinion about the case study which was my first assignment
several
> months ago, but it has haunted in my mind.
>
> < Melissa, a 15-year old, comes into the Jonestown public library from
time to
> time. she is not a behavior problem, although rarely, a staff member may
have
> to tell her to of librarians that Melissa has some "problem", but they are
not
> specific. Melissa approaches the reference librarian. she looks like she
has
> been crying because her eyes are a little red and her face is puffy.In s
shake
> voice she askes: "I've been looking for a book, it's not in the shelf.It's
call
> FINAL EXIT. Can you tell me where it is?" you know that FINAL EXIT is a
book in
> how to commit suicide. you also know that it has just been returned and is
on a
> cart ready for reshelving.>
>
>  About the question I thought the librarian shouldn't give the book
because
> Melissa isn't normal. If the librarian gives the book to her, we could
> anticipate the possibility of what will be done by Melissa. I understand
when
> the code of ethics was written, the writers should have left some
discretion to
> the librarian to control special situation.
>  This case would relate to intellectual freedom. I agree that librarians
should
> hold to intellectual freedom and carry out their tasks without reference
to the
> opinion of those who want to restrict free access  to knowledge. but In
> practical application in libraries, librarians face that it's hard to
apply
> intellectual freedom policy. Intellectual freedom is a complex matter with
many
> dimenstions.
>  If you are the librarian in the case study, How would you deal with
Melissa's
> case?
>  Thank you.
>
> subject : "Intellectual freedom"
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 6
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:22:22 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Deanna Herlong <DeannaHerlong at fcds.org>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: YA Surveys
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110161922200.5891-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> From: Deanna Herlong
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 2:58 PM
> To: 'PUBLIB'
> Subject: YA Surveys
>
>
> Does anyone have access to or know where to locate survey results dealing
> with why Young Adults are or are not library users that have been
conducted
> by school or public libraries?  I'm currently doing an action research
paper
> on this topic for library school and need to find some literature to
assist
> me. I'd be interested in anything dealing with YAs and their library likes
> and dislikes.  Thanks for any help you might be able to provide.
>
>
>
> *********************************************************************
> Due to deletion of content types excluded from this list by policy,
> this multipart message was reduced to a single part, and from there
> to a plain text message.
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 7
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:22:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Don Wood" <dwood at ala.org>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: CIPA Legal Defense: Please Help
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110161922320.5891-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> October 16, 2001
>
> To: Our Colleagues
>
> From: Office for Intellectual Freedom and ALA Development Office
>
> During this difficult time, librarians must continue to be at the
> forefront of efforts to preserve and promote access to information and
> free expression, not an easy task anywhere, any time.
>
> In this light, we need your help today.
>
> On March 20, 2001, the American Library Association (ALA) filed suit to
> challenge the Children's Internet Protection Act (CIPA). This Act
> requires public libraries that receive federal funding to install and
> enforce the use of blocking software on all computers with Internet
> access.
>
> ALA filed suit, not only because of the flawed nature of filtering
> software, but also because CIPA violates the First Amendment and hinders
> the ability of libraries to fulfill their responsibility to provide
> access to information.
>
> A trial date has been set for February 14, 2002. For the most current
> information on the legal challenge, please visit http://www.ala.org/cipa
>
>
> In order to meet funding needs for this legal challenge, ALA launched
> its campaign to raise $1.3 million for the CIPA Legal Fund. Thanks to
> many ALA member libraries, divisions, chapters, affiliates, and others,
> we are nearly halfway to our fund-raising goal.
>
> Please visit http://www.ala.org/cipa/cipalegalfund.html to make your
> gift to the CIPA Legal Fund and join ALA in our fight to protect
> intellectual freedom and equity of access. Please consider a
> contribution that will express your personal commitment to keeping
> Americas libraries safe from censorship.
>
> By defending intellectual freedom, even during times of uncertainty,
> librarians help to ensure that intellectual freedom will remain one of
> our most treasured freedoms.
>
> __________________________
>
> Don Wood
> Program Officer/Communications
> American Library Association
> Office for Intellectual Freedom
> 50 East Huron Street
> Chicago, IL 60611
> 1-800-545-2433, ext. 1 + 4225
> Fax: 312-280-4227
> dwood at ala.org
> http://www.ala.org/alaorg/oif/
> http://www.ala.org/cipa/cipalegalfund.html
> intellectual freedom @ your library
> Free People Read Freely*
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 8
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:38:36 -0700 (PDT)
> From: PUBLIB <plib2 at webjunction.org>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: LJ needs pix!!
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110161937490.11543-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> LJ Wants Your Photos
>
> Library Journal wants to recognize special events at libraries of all
types
> all around the country. If your library is hosting a fundraising gala,
> kicking off an anniversary celebration, or holding a grand opening for a
new
> or renovated facility, send in your snaps. Good-quality slides or prints
> measuring 4" x 6" or larger as well as digital photos (TIFF format at 300
> dpi is preferred) are welcome. Color is preferred, but black-and-white is
> acceptable. Include a note with the names and titles of any people
featured
> in the photos and a short description of the event. Formal press releases
> not required. Please do not staple photos to your letter or press release.
> Submitted photos can not be returned. Send photos to LJ News, 245 W. 17th
> St., New York, NY 10011 or e-mail electronic photos to Eric Bryant
> (bryant at lj.cahners.com) or Michael Rogers (mrogers at lj.cahners.com).
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 9
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:29:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Theyer <theyer at pacbell.net>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: Library Labor Sources - follow up question
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110162129130.5526-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> I have received many replies to my question about sources for labor
information for Librarians, and many are specific union contracts.  They are
helpful, but it led me to wondering ... (always a dangerous thing for a
Librarian to get into!)
>
> I know we have comprehensive salary studies, and they are published.  They
will allow me to find out what Librarians of X years of experience make in X
area of the country etc.  I know I can go to the California Library
Directory, find libraries of same s
> ize, same staff, same collection and then make a bunch of calls to ask
about duties, benefits, salaries, levels of work, etc for any position.  I
could send out a survey, etc.
>
> But, do we actually have any comprehensive, national studies on what
Librarians do?  What percentage work behind the checkout desk?  What
percentage do programming?  What is the compensation for that?  How many
Librarians work alone in a building, or are
> left in charge of a staff of 50+ on an evening or weekend?  At what level
do Librarians become mid-management, or adminstration?  What levels are FLSA
exempt?  How many full-time vs. part-time work weekends?  How many
"supervisors" are part-time?
>
> Stuff like that.
>
> For example, right now my issue is Sunday service.  I searched the PubLib
archives and came with a plethora and variety of experience.  Some
Librarians work every Saturday and every other Sunday at straight pay.  Some
work Sundays for double-time pay and
> an extra day off.  Some don't have to work Sundays at all, the system
staffs Sundays with part-time only.  Some work Sundays as supervisor only
and don't man (or woman) a desk.  Some are supervisor, Reference Librarian,
custodian, and building security at
>  the same time.  Is there anyplace this information is all assembled, so I
can take my situation and know if I am average, or what?
>
> So, you see my question.  Is there anyone assembling this, at a state
(California please) or national level?
>
> If there is, someone out there in PubLib land will know!
> Thanks,
> Hillary Theyer
>
>
>
> *********************************************************************
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 10
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:29:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Thomas J. Hennen Jr." <thennen at haplr-index.com>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: RE: PUBLIB digest 1831
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110162129450.5526-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Writing in Topic No. 8, Publib Digest 1831, Deb Messling of Eastern Monroe
> Public Library in PA asked about board concerns about dangerous substances
> being placed in book grops.  She is concerned about the potential for
> ill-considered panic.
>
> Items to consider, all from today's news:
>
> The Seneca Daily Journal Messenger reported:
> The Seneca branch of the Oconee County Library (SC)was closed and cordoned
> off Monday morning after employees found a suspicious substance on books
in
> the overnight book drop and called the police. Within minutes, police and
> fire departments responded. The library will remain closed until later
this
> week, when lab results are expected. There have been a rash of similar
> scares across the state. More than 100 people were detained for several
> hours in the Spartanburg County Library Sunday when a white, powdery
> substance was found on a cassette tape case in the overnight drop box. The
> library reopened Monday morning.
>
> The South Carolina State reported that:
> Richland County Library's main branch on Assembly Street was closed this
> morning after a book was returned with a powdery substance on it. The
city's
> bioterrorism response team, made up of fire, police and hazardous
materials
> emergency personnel, re-sponded, securing the scene and decontaminating
> three people who may have touched the book.  The substance on the book is
> being analyzed, but is not expected to be a dangerous substance, said
Mayor
> Bob Coble.
>
> The Herald Journal:
> Authorities still are waiting for test results on the white powder found
> inside a book-on-tape case at the Spartanburg County Public Library
> Headquarters Sunday.  But so far, no suspicious substances tested in South
> Carolina have contained hazardous biological agents. "While we don't have
a
> specific count ... it would be safe to say we have tested dozens of
samples,
> all of which have come back negative," said Thom Berry, spokesman for the
> South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control.
>
> We are not talking NY or Washington, here but rural South Carolina. Very
> scary stuff. We can fireproof bookdrops, but biological agentproof them?
A
> temporary closure for everyone's safety and peace of mind might not be the
> worst thing, it seems to me...
>
> Thomas J. Hennen Jr.
> thennen at haplr-index.com
> http://www.haplr-index.com
> Voice: 262-886-1625
> Fax: 262-886-5424
> 6014 Spring Street
> Racine, WI   53406
>
> "Share knowledge, seek wisdom."
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 11
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:30:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gerard Mittelstaedt <mittelst at mcallen.lib.tx.us>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: Re: Book drop security
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110162129580.5526-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Hi,
>
> YES,  at the very least put a sprinkler over it (for fire danger).
> If at all possible isolate the area with at least moderately
> fire proof walls.  -
>
> Gerard Mittelstaedt        mittelst at mcallen.lib.tx.us
> McAllen Memorial Library   http://www.mcallen.lib.tx.us
> McAllen, TX 78501
> USA
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Deb Messling wrote:
>
> > I hate to bring this up, but our board is concerned about someone
putting
> > something dangerous into the bookdrop.  We have a slot doing directly
into
> > the building, into a closet just off the children's room.  Has any
library
> > considered the security implications of a book drop?  I do not want to
> > abandon a well-loved public service out of unconsidered panic.
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > Deb Messling, Director
> > Eastern Monroe Public Library
> > 1002 North Ninth Street
> > Stroudsburg, PA 18360
> > 570-421-0800   mcpl at ptd.net
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 12
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:46:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: GenAnnual at aol.com
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: NY Times article on Cindy Deuel, genealogist and Sept 11th
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110171446020.28206-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
> With all that’s happening in the country these past few weeks some of
you may
> not have seen the article about Cindy Deuel, a genealogist, who died in
the
> WTC attack,  that appeared in the NY Times Sunday, Oct. 14th. (See: A
Nation
> Challenged. Portraits of Grief: Cindy Deuel:Tracing the Line. New York
Times.
> Sunday, Oct. 14, 2001, pp. B12.) highlighted in this week’s LHGL:
> http://www.heritagequest.com/html/lhgl_011016.html#nation
>
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 13
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:46:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Julie Bauer <alligator95 at yahoo.com>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: re: book drop security
> Message-ID:
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> "I hate to bring this up, but our board is concerned
> about someone
> putting
> something dangerous into the bookdrop.  We have a slot
> doing directly
> into
> the building, into a closet just off the children's
> room.  Has any
> library
> considered the security implications of a book drop?
> I do not want to
> abandon a well-loved public service out of
> unconsidered panic."
>
> I think everyone has a story about something
> unpleasant left in the book drop, and it's not too
> much of a stretch to imagine something dangerous there
> as well.  Rather than abandon the book drop, I would
> suggest adding lighting and a very obvious security
> camera.  If your local police can add that area to
> their rounds, that would help too.
>
> Julie Bauer
> Information Services Librarian
> Weston Public Library
> Weston, Massachusetts
>
>
>
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>
> Topic No. 14
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:46:51 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Lauffer at jcl.lib.ks.us
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: Book drop security
> Message-ID:
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> We have book drops in all 13 of our libraries.  The book drops are built
to
> meet strict fire code requirements just for the purpose of protecting the
> rest of the library building from a fire generated in the bookdrop.  I
have
> worked in other libraries that had problems with food items such as ice
> cream cones or cokes being dropped.  Patron education is a factor.  In
some
> instances we closed the book drop if the vandalism became excessive and
> tried to work with the problem.  For instance, one branch was next door to
a
> fast food establishment that did a huge business in the summer (near the
> beach).  We worked with the owner and got the problem resolved.
Bookdrops
> are a great service for patrons.  Hope you can keep it going.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 15
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:47:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "James B. Casey" <jimcasey at lib.oak-lawn.il.us>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: Re:
> Message-ID:
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>
> Sung Kong wrote (excerpt):
>
> < Melissa, a 15-year old, comes into the Jonestown public library from
time to
> time. she is not a behavior problem, although rarely, a staff member may
have
> to tell her to of librarians that Melissa has some "problem", but they are
not
> specific. Melissa approaches the reference librarian. she looks like she
has
> been crying because her eyes are a little red and her face is puffy.In s
shake
> voice she askes: "I've been looking for a book, it's not in the shelf.It's
call
> FINAL EXIT. Can you tell me where it is?" you know that FINAL EXIT is a
book in
> how to commit suicide. you also know that it has just been returned and is
on a
> cart ready for reshelving.>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
>
>
>
> Maybe if more people had read Mein Kampf and learned just exactly what
> Hitler was up to, he would never have been allowed to destroy millions of
> lives.   Melissa might decide NOT to commit suicide after reading a book
> which deals in an non-romanticized manner with the clinical reality and
> finality of death.   It isn't wise to assume how a book will affect
someone.
> Mass followers of Hitler were drawn by the colorful and dramatic nature
> of Nazi party rallies and propaganda.  Most hadn't bothered to exercise
> their intellects sufficiently to actually read the claptrap of Mein Kampf.
> Suicides are rarely the products of thoughtful analysis of options and
> outcomes, but of romantic notions of "won't he/she be sorry" or
> sacrifice or "saving face" or simply a cry for help.  The very process of
> reading and thinking is conducive to an outcome less likely to lead to
> wanton destruction of precious life.
>
> James B. Casey  ---- My own views as a Public Librarian.
> ALA Council Member
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 16
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:47:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: BarbaraW6 at aol.com
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: American Youth Corps
> Message-ID:
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>
> If your library is offered a contract by American Youth Corps,  be careful
> that you  understand what you are getting into.  The company produces
folders
> with information about your library, paid for by advertisers who are
> solicited by America Youth Corps. The folders are delivered, but the
company
> is very unpleasant to deal with.  If you sign a contract with American
Youth
> Corps, read it carefully, especially the section that says that if you
want
> to cancel the contract you must do it by registered letter more than six
> months in advance of when you expect the portfolios.  We had the following
> problems with this company:
>
> 1.  After obtaining the contract,  the salesman never returned to the
library
> but began soliciting advertisements the following year without our
knowledge.
>
>
> 2.  Although the library staff provided  information about library
services
> and activities to be printed in the folder,  the following year it had
only
> genric information.   When I complained, they said the information must be
> submitted each year -- but no one contacts you to say when.
>
> 3.  Businesses in our town began called the library to complain because
the
> salesman was aggressive; he implied that the library had sent him.
>
> 4.  I  was able to cancel the contract after several unsatisfactory phone
> calls,  but  the one business that we knew about that was not able to stop
> payment on its check was refused reimbursement by American Youth Corps.
>
> Barbara Wallace,
> Former Director
> Bacon Memorial District Library
> Wyandotte, Michigan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 17
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:47:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kate Wolicki <Kwolicki at nileslibrary.org>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: RE: Book Drop Security
> Message-ID:
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>
> The library where I work has begun providing rubber gloves for staff who
> empty bookdrops or collect books from outside.  Since security and book
> drops is always an issue, I'd imagine some librarians have saved up
> arguments from when the book drops were installed.  I'd say the good of a
> book drop outweighs possible sicko problems, but it's worthwhile to be
> careful.
> Kate Wolicki
>
> Topic No. 8
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:15:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Deb Messling <mcpl at ptdprolog.net>
> Has any library considered the security implications of a book drop?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 18
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:48:10 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "rkb" <info at inmybook.com>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: Subject: Re: Position Opening (revised)
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110171448080.28206-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
> Yes, the salaries are outrageously low, and the qualifications extremely
> demanding. Maybe our friend the First Lady could do something about this?
>
> Robin K. Blum
> In My Book®
> http://www.inmybook.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 19
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:05:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: PUBLIB <plib2 at webjunction.org>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: re: Melissa
> Message-ID:
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>
> >>This case would relate to intellectual freedom.
> Not entirely. It also relates to the fact that sometimes reference work
> feels like social work..and that one of the hardest things to do sometimes
> is to let go, to know when/where you've gone as far as you can go.
>
> Case in point, here:
>   Very self-possessed young lady, but obviously not more than 7-9yrs old,
> called to ask what the legal age limit was at which children could be left
> alone. NO! I could NOT look it up and call her back. She'd wait, or she'd
> call me back. She was whispering into the phone ..and once hung up
> abruptly, calling right back. Wouldn't  give me phone or address. But?
> basic tenant of reference is "we don't do legal opinions", so??
>   Kept her on as long as I could, elicited fact she ws eldest of 3
> children who'd been left alone at least overnight. Told her about the
> County child advocate and asked if she'd like me to call for her? Yes..and
> she'd call me back. Had my colleagues all on alert, so when she did they
> lateraled the phone right  to me.
>   Spoke to county advocate, explained situation, got her direct name and
> phone number and when child called back told her "Barbara" was looking
> forward to hearing from her and would be glad to answer any questions.
> **and then I had to let go of the situation and hope it worked out okay**
> (Advocate opined that if girl called she'd  do a trace address on the
> phone and have a patrol car  just check up on them.) I had done everything
> I possibly could, including giving this child my name and telling her to
> call me at any time, for anything.
>    Sometimes you don't know what it is you do, when you lend reference
> assistance ..and, yes, that should on rare occasions be scary..and
> humbling.
> --------------------------
> Sara Weissman
> Morris  County Library
> http://www.gti.net/mocolib1
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 20
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:05:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gerard Mittelstaedt <mittelst at mcallen.lib.tx.us>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: Re: - 15 yr old seeking Final Exit
> Message-ID:
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> MIME-Version: 1.0
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>
> Hi,
>  Sam Whitten - the prof who taught the Public Libraries course
> at UT Austin, (Texas) had a story from real life that was much
> like this one.  When he worked at Dallas Public (way back when
> the earth was still cooling) a patron phoned in and wanted to
> know how to do himself in... as a reference question. Sam kept
> the patron on the line, and kept  him talking.  He tried to
> get help but as he was out in the stacks he could not do so.
> The patron finally hung up.  Sam did a good job though.  He
> talked the patron through his low point and the patron did
> not commit suicide.  Sam said that he was perspiring freely
> during the conversation and that it was one of the most stressful
> points in his life.
> Sam W. died of natural causes some 10 years ago. He is missed
> by all the UT Austin grads of his teaching generation.
>
> Now, what would I do.... engage the young patron in conversation,
> perhaps by suggesting that I might be able to come up with another
> title if I could have some insight into the exact nature of
> the query... and keep her talking until a clearer vision of
> problems and real solutions develops.
> That's my 2 cents.
>
> Gerard Mittelstaedt   mittelst at mcallen.lib.tx.us
> McAllen, TX
>
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Sung Kong wrote:
>
> > I'm a graduate student in library & information science. I'd like to
share one
> > another's opinion about the case study which was my first assignment
several
> > months ago, but it has haunted in my mind.
> >
> > < Melissa, a 15-year old, comes into the Jonestown public library from
time to
> > time. she is not a behavior problem, although rarely, a staff member may
have
> > to tell her to of librarians that Melissa has some "problem", but they
are not
> > specific. Melissa approaches the reference librarian. she looks like she
has
> > been crying because her eyes are a little red and her face is puffy.In s
shake
> > voice she askes: "I've been looking for a book, it's not in the
shelf.It's call
> > FINAL EXIT. Can you tell me where it is?" you know that FINAL EXIT is a
book in
> > how to commit suicide. you also know that it has just been returned and
is on a
> > cart ready for reshelving.>
> >
> >  About the question I thought the librarian shouldn't give the book
because
> > Melissa isn't normal. If the librarian gives the book to her, we could
> > anticipate the possibility of what will be done by Melissa. I understand
when
> > the code of ethics was written, the writers should have left some
discretion to
> > the librarian to control special situation.
> >  This case would relate to intellectual freedom. I agree that librarians
should
> > hold to intellectual freedom and carry out their tasks without reference
to the
> > opinion of those who want to restrict free access  to knowledge. but In
> > practical application in libraries, librarians face that it's hard to
apply
> > intellectual freedom policy. Intellectual freedom is a complex matter
with many
> > dimenstions.
> >  If you are the librarian in the case study, How would you deal with
Melissa's
> > case?
> >  Thank you.
> >
> > subject : "Intellectual freedom"
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 21
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:54:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: PUBLIB <plib2 at webjunction.org>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: TV habits survey
> Message-ID:
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>
> [As authors note at end..do NOT reply to list, reply to posters. Thanks.)
>
> We are seeking permission to post the attached survey on your list. Our
> end goal is to produce an informative, yet entertaining, look at
> librarians and their interactions with media, particularly entertainment
> elevision. Although the topic is not directly relevant to public =
> libraries, we believe the results will hold some interest for public
> librarians. . Thanks much,
>
> Denice Adkins, Assistant Professor
> SISLT, University of Missouri
> adkinsde at missouri.edu
>
> Christopher Brown-Syed, Visiting Assistant Professor
> University at Buffalo School of Informatics
> clb24 at buffalo.edu
>
>
> 1. Name the entertainment television programs you watch on a regular
> basis. Include shows on network and cable/specialty stations.
>
> 2. Name the entertainment television programs that you watched last =
> week.
>
> 3. Do you watch television regularly?
> * Yes
> * No
>
> 4. What type of library do you work in?
> * Academic Library
> * Archives
> * Corporate / Special Library
> * Library School - Professor / Instructor
> * Library School - Student
> * Museum
> * Public Library
> * School Library (K-12)
> * Other (If you specified "Other," please indicate which other type of
> library or information center you work in.)
>
> 5. What is your job title?
>
> 6. What is your main function in the library you work in?
> * Administration
> * Cataloging
> * Children's or Young Adult Services
> * Circulation
> * Collection Development
> * Outreach
> * Reader Advisory
> * Reference
> * Systems Administration
> * Other (If you answered "Other," please indicate what your main =
> function is.)
> 7. How many years have you worked in libraries or in the information =
> industry?
> * Less than 1 Year
> * 1-5 Years
> * 6-15 Years
> * 16-25 Years
> * 26 Years or More
>
> 8. What is your gender?
> * Male
> * Female
>
> 9. Do you live with others (spouse, significant other, children,
> housemates) or alone?
> * Live with Others
> * Live by Myself
>
> 10. Are you willing to be contacted if we have further questions? If so,
> please let us know how we can contact you. (Please make sure you do not =
> inadvertently post personal information to the list from which you are =
> receiving this survey!)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Topic No. 22
>
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:08:03 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gail Lancaster <glanca55 at yahoo.com>
> To: publib <publib at webjunction.org>
> Subject: Computers in the library
> Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10110171908020.18841-100000 at webjunction.org>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Hi Group,
>      Would someone(s) be willing to share their advice
> and experience with me on this topic?  I have a space
> and computer use situation that needs some creative
> yet practical solution.  Our branch library has been
> blessed with the addition of 16 new Internet/Word
> computers, bringing our computer total to 22.  We have
> 2 floors, the 2nd floor has a lot more space and could
> accommodate the additional computers.  But the 2nd
> floor has no supervision.  The reference desk is on
> the 1st floor and we handle all computer sign-up,
> questions and troubleshooting for the 6 that are there
> already.  I'm thinking about making the 1st floor
> computers dedicated word processing stations and the
> 2nd floor computers dedicated Internet stations.  We
> plan to have a timeout software installed in the
> future.  Also, the 2nd floor is entirely adult and YA
> fiction.  Any suggestions, remarks, criticisms, or
> words of wisdom would be really appreciated.
>
> Thank you!
> Gail Lancaster
> glanca55 at yahoo.com
> Southwest Branch Supervisor
> Kern County Library
> Bakersfield, CA
>
>
>
>
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