[ILL-L] RE: ILL-L Digest, Vol 34, Issue 26
Mary.McQueen at wfpl.net
Mary.McQueen at wfpl.net
Mon Jan 5 11:46:45 EST 2009
Another example of abuse that could lead to restrictions. ugh. I try to
lend very generously, but I'd get mad if my good will were abused like
that.
Mary
Mary McQueen - Interlibrary Loan Librarian
Wichita Falls Public Library
Wichita Falls TX 76301
940-767-0868 x230 Fax: 940-720-6659
Mary.McQueen at wfpl.net
"Debbie Hunn"
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01/05/2009 09:59 [ILL-L] RE: ILL-L Digest, Vol 34,
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Becky, I agree. I've even had interlibrary loan librarians tell me that
they tell their patrons they can keep books as long as they like because
other libraries don't charge late fees. (I asked if they charged their
patrons late fees for their own books, and they do.) I wouldn't bother with
fines if a book is only a week or two late, but when I see real abuses, I
see no problem with charging. As you point out, we add the bill to the
account of the patron who keeps the books so long.
In other cases when the librarian tries to get the books back, I may offer
to send an invoice. Sometimes they tell me they charge the patron
themselves anyway, but sometimes they take me up on it.
Debbie
Debbie Hunn
Turpin Library
Dallas Theological Seminary
3909 Swiss Ave
Dallas, TX 75204
phone: 214-841-3752
fax: 214-841-3745
dhunn at dts.edu
>>> On 1/5/2009 at 9:32 AM, "Becky Whitlow"
<R.Whitlow at RockValleyCollege.edu> wrote:
I do not know whether it is technically proper to charge other libraries
for overdue material or not, but I have been told (via telephone
conversations) by participating libraries that they are strongly
considering charging other libraries because of the rampant abuse.
Personally, I totally agree with this solution. We charge our own
patrons for overdue ILL materials as a tool to control this abuse, and
it works very well; I have also suspended ILL privileges for habitual
abusers. In the same conversations I have also been told that some
libraries are considering a minimum $100.00 replacement cost for very
late ILL materials, which I always tell our patrons. This REALLY
works. I have overheard students comment to each other that they prefer
to ILL from other libraries so they can keep the material as long as
they want because there are no late fees. In the case of academic
libraries, our materials are greatly needed by our own/other students,
consequently, I feel late fees for any abuser is justified. Thus far we
have not charged other member libraries, but this is a topic we have
discussed, and will do so again. When you remember that it's the patron
who actually pays the fines and that ILL is just another form of a
library loan (which they would have to pay if they checked out the
material from their local library), I wonder why we even question a fee.
Just my thoughts,
Becky
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4. RE: Re:conference paper (Document Delivery)
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Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 12:05:01 -0500
From: "Paula Tamburello" <Paula.Tamburello at goddard.edu>
Subject: [ILL-L] Re: ILL-L Digest, Vol 34, Issue 25
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I will be out of the office from 4pm Tuesday 12/23 till 9am Monday
12/29.
For urgent matters, contact lits at goddard.edu.
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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:09:21 -0500
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Subject: RE: [ILL-L] Re: Charging late fees for ILL items lent
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Yes, I didn't see it there either. But it is in the code of come local
systems - sorry, Ed.
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From: ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org on behalf of Jessica Harris
Sent: Mon 12/15/2008 10:15 AM
To: ill-l at webjunction.org
Subject: [ILL-L] Re: Charging late fees for ILL items lent
Hello,
I just wanted to thank everyone who took time out of their day to reply
to my posting. I do have one question: Edward had replied to my posting
Friday morning and stated that it was against ILL code to charge other
libraries overdue fines. I looked over ALA's ILL Code at
http://www.ala.org/Template.cfm?Section=InterLibrary_Loan&template=/Cont
entManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=31579 and have not seen
mention of this. Could you explain this to me a bit further? I have a
meeting to discuss this issue with the Director this afternoon and would
like to have as much information as possible. Thanks!
- Jessica
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Jessica Harris <jessaharris at gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello,
I have recently become responsible for ILL at my library and
have noticed an abundance of late fees in our system for books that we
have lent to other libraries. My question is this: Is it normal to
charge borrowing libraries for overdue items? We have recently received
an invoice from another library for an item that was 2 weeks overdue, so
I just want to get an idea of other library's policies concerning this
issue. I would greatly appreciate any help or advice you can give.
Thanks!
~ Jessica
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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:20:42 -0500
From: "Document Delivery" <DocDelivery at iona.edu>
Subject: RE: [ILL-L] RE: Friday "fun" question (copyright & extra
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I would probably either keep the article to copy, or not fill any and
request that the professor put it on reserve, Ed.
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From: ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org on behalf of April Younglove
Sent: Mon 11/24/2008 12:49 PM
To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv
Subject: RE: [ILL-L] RE: Friday "fun" question (copyright & extra
credit)
Wouldn't that violate the one patron one use ILL principle?
<https://email.iona.edu/exchange/DocDelivery/Drafts/RE: [ILL-L] RE:%
20Friday "fun" question (copyright & extra credit).EML
/1_multipart/image002.jpg> April Younglove
Technical Services Specialist
Linfield College, Portland Campus Library
503-413-7448
ayoungl at linfield.edu
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[mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Breedlove, W Stephen
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 7:23 AM
To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv
Subject: [ILL-L] RE: Friday "fun" question (copyright & extra credit)
We've had similar situations. What we did once we saw that a number of
people were requesting the same articles, and that the teacher would not
put the articles on reserve or Blackboard, was just keep a copy of each
article, even if they were within the last five years, and when we
received a request for one of them, we just copied from our copies and
sent it on. If the articles were older than the last five years, no
problem with copyright and ILL. If they were within the last five
years, we just kept our copyright records as we always have and counted
each transaction for our CCG records. We did not burden other libraries
with requests for the same articles over and over.
We've had many animals come to interlibrary loan, but they were not the
four-legged or winged type.
W. Stephen Breedlove
Reference Librarian/Interlibrary Loan Coordinator
Connelly Library, La Salle University
breedlov at lasalle.edu
215-951-1862
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[mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Schwartz, Andrea
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:17 AM
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Subject: [ILL-L] Friday "fun" question (copyright & extra credit)
I need some advice from other ILL-ers. What would you have done in this
situation?
A professor on our campus gave out an extra credit assignment to his
class which required them to request one or two articles through
Interlibrary loan and answer questions about them. The articles are
older (1996) but I now have about 20 requests for both articles from 20
different students. My assistant and I processed many of them as they
trickled in without realizing they were all for the same two
articles-just realized last night.
I just spoke to the professor. He explained the assignment to me and
reported that he'd assigned the same extra credit at his previous
university and "never had any trouble from ILL" about it. Couldn't they
request ANY article from X Journal and write about it, I asked? No, he
wanted these 2 articles that he knew well enough to know that the
students had read/understood the article. Couldn't he have posted the
articles on Blackboard or put them on Reserve in Library, I asked?
Well, he wanted them to do a little more work than that. My main
objection to him was that this is a huge waste of my time, my
assistant's time, and all the lending libraries who are out there
scanning these two articles over and over for us.
But is this also violating some copyright guideline? What are my
options for the requests I haven't processed yet?
Thanks,
Andrea Schwartz
Bloomsburg University [OCLC:PBB]
Andruss Library, Interlibrary Loan
570-389-4218 (voice)
570-389-3895 (fax)
ill at bloomu.edu
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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:24:46 -0500
From: "Document Delivery" <DocDelivery at iona.edu>
Subject: RE: [ILL-L] Re:conference paper
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One site the list suggested is:
http://www.interdok.com/ <http://www.interdok.com/>
Also going to the organization's web site might help, Ed.
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From: ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org on behalf of corinne nyquist
Sent: Fri 12/26/2008 9:04 AM
To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv
Subject: [ILL-L] Re:conference paper
I know conference papers are hard to find but I would
like you suggestions with the one below and tips in
general
Corinne
Proceedings of the Institute of Mathematics and Mechanics
2007
"A note on meet-semilatices with pseudocomplinmentations"
by Oktya M Mamedov
Corinne Nyquist, MLS, Ph.D
Sojourner Truth Library
State University of New York
New Paltz, NY 112561
845-257-3681
nyquistc at newpaltz.edu
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