[ILL-L] Limit to number of books a student can take out?
April Younglove
ayoungl at linfield.edu
Fri Feb 6 12:54:29 EST 2009
To play devil's advocate for a moment: I agree that it's important for students to be aware of the lender's terms, but is it important for us to know if the student is correctly using the loaned item to its fullest potential? Why are we concerned with what they do with a library item once they have it?
April Younglove
Technical Services Specialist
Linfield College, Portland Campus Library
503-413-7448
ayoungl at linfield.edu
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From: ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Sharon Bleau
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:41 AM
To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv
Subject: RE: [ILL-L] Limit to number of books a student can take out?
I agree with your reasoning. It isn't really a question of the workload. A lot
of patrons don't understand that they are only going to have limited amount
of time to use the books. Even if a lender is generous and allows an 8 week
checkout period, at least two of those weeks are going to be taken up with
mailing time. Ten books is a substantial amount to read in six weeks. If
they are only getting a small amount of information from the books, and not
actually reading them all the way through, they can return the ILL's and
request more. It just prevents a lot of problems.
On 6 Feb 2009 at 12:04, Document Delivery wrote:
>
> I asked the question and my concern is having a student with 20 books he or she is responsible
> for. The workload is substantial, but that´s OK. How many books can be read at once? I asked
> them to bring in the assignment to explain why they needed more than ten at one time, but no
> one has come in, and the professor hasn´t complained about the policy.
>
> Edward Helmrich
> ILL Office
> Ryan Library
> Iona College VXI
> 914-633-2352
> docdelivery at iona.edu
>
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> From: ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of April
> Younglove
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:27 AM
> To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv
> Subject: RE: [ILL-L] Limit to number of books a student can take out?
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> I have to agree that it seems more reasonable for a public library to have a limit on ILL borrowing
> for the reasons Heather states below. For academic libraries, however, I´m not sure that I see
> the reasoning for limiting your patrons (especially since, recently being a graduate student
> myself, I frequently ordered and used more than 10 ILL books at a time). Is the problem for the
> original question poster that you are understaffed? Or is it that patrons are not picking up items
> that they are ordering? If that latter, then I think that applying a fee for items not picked up
> seems like one less drastic solution than limiting. From a student´s point of view, it would be
> hard for me to always keep track of whether or not I was ordering "too many" items and I might
> just stop using ILL or assume that you don´t want me to use it very much (and I hope that´s not
> true).
>
> April Younglove
> Technical Services Specialist
> Linfield College, Portland Campus Library
> 503-413-7448
> ayoungl at linfield.edu
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> From: ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of
> Campbell, Heather
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:43 AM
> To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv
> Subject: RE: [ILL-L] Limit to number of books a student can take out?
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> I know that as a public library, we may be speaking of apples and oranges here
> (as a Floridian, I insist on being the orange)--BUT we oranges found that our
> customers have the free-for-all candy shop reaction to WorldCat. They want it
> all, but they don't have the time to read everything they request or even the
> inclination to check everything out.It would drive Circ staff-especially at our
> branches- (ummm)bananas. Customers would stand at the check-out desk and
> pick and choose what they wanted tocheck out---- as the linebehind them grew
> ever larger and angrier. A lot of books were sent back unread- only (in some
> cases) to be requested again. Since ILL is notfree, alot of time and resources
> were wasted. I did a survey and 10 was the median number most public libraries
> chose as an activerequest limit.Our Library Board approved the policy change.
> ILLiad canenforce the limit for you, soI set10 as the limit when we went live
> with Borrowing. We have had atwo or threeof complaints over the 5 years
> we've had this limit, but my staff has been grateful for the limits since Borrowing
> is the most labor intensive part of the ILL process. It helps morale to know that
> all your work won't go for nought.
>
>
> Heather Campbell
> Special Services ~ Interlibrary Loan and Books By Mail
> Jacksonville Public Library(OCLC:JPL)303 North Laura Street
> Jacksonville, Florida 32202
> heatherc at coj.net904-630-7017 VM:904-630-2985
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> From: ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of
> Document Delivery
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:05 PM
> To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv
> Subject: [ILL-L] Limit to number of books a student can take out?
> We have a class where some students are requesting 15-20 books interlibrary loan. We have a
> policy of no more than ten ILL books charged out to a patron at a time. Do other libraries have
> similar policies or thoughts? Thanks,
>
> Edward Helmrich
> ILL Office
> Ryan Library
> Iona College VXI
> 914-633-2352
> docdelivery at iona.edu
>
>
> From: ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of
> Becky Grinolds
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:27 PM
> To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv
> Subject: RE: [ILL-L] Re: Friday musings
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> When their items arrived, we send an email letting them know that it is here and that we will hold
> it for 10 days. On the 11th day we send the item back or recycle the articles. If there are charges
> from the lending libraries they are put onto the patrons account.Otherwise we don´t charge.
>
> Becky Grinolds
> Lewis Clark State College
> Lewiston, ID
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> From: ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of
> Shirley R Thomas/FS/VCU
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:07 AM
> To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv
> Subject: Re: [ILL-L] Re: Friday musings
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> I'm interested in knowing whether other libraries have a $2 fines for items not picked up.
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> We are considering doing this because we have over 30 returnables each month that never get
> picked up. We also have just as many or more electronically delivered articles that the users
> never read.
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> Shirley R. Thomas
> Head, Resource Delivery Services
> VCU Libraries
> 901 Park Avenue
> Richmond, VA 23284-2033
> Fax: 804-828-2260
> Voice: 804-828-1706
> https://illiad.library.vcu.edu/illiad/
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> Last year we instituted a $2 postage/handling charge for ILL's received
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> a $2 additional fine for items not picked up. It worked
> wonders!
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> Sarah L. Lee
> Technical Services Mgr.
> Mobile Public Library
> 5555 Grelot Rd.
> Mobile AL 36609
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