[ILL-L] RE: ILL Code provision followup

Thu Nov 6 15:45:03 EST 2008

My sabretoothed tigers want John to know that- rather than strong-arming
your Special Collections curators to loan out that first (and
autographed) edition of  Look Homeward Angel",  you find an item record
for another edition PLCMC doesn't own in WorldCat and  then you can ILL
it without feeling guilty.  

Not that sabretoothed tigers know the first thing about guilt.

Heather Campbell
Special Services ~ Interlibrary Loan and Books By Mail
Jacksonville Public Library   303 North Laura Street
Jacksonville, Florida 32202
heatherc at coj.net    904-630-2985 

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From: Bierma, Lynn [mailto:LBierma at ILSOS.NET] 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:26 PM
To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv; Campbell, Heather
Subject: RE: [ILL-L] RE: ILL Code provision followup

At least you have a sense of humor :)  Good luck!

Lynn Bierma
IL State Library

	-----Original Message-----
	From: ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org
[mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org]On Behalf Of Camenga, John
	Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:19 PM
	To: Campbell, Heather; Interlibrary Loan Listserv
	Subject: [ILL-L] RE: ILL Code provision followup

	Heather and everyone else,

	Thanks to everyone that responded. I knew it was obvious, just
couldn't see it.
	A bit of background
	We have a large collection of fiction/nonfiction whose sole
reason for being in the North Carolina Room is because the titles are by
Carolina authors and takes place in (where else?) North Carolina.
Literary value is definitely problematic. Often because of small
printings these are the only copies left in our system.  I think we will
revisit our policy of not asking for this type of material and I will
take my chances in ILL Land. 
	Back in the day when Woolly Mammoths migrated to the gulf coast
of  Florida (snowbirds) I worked for a place that kept similar material
in cages in their equivalent of the Carolina Room. So there were 1st
edition's of Marjorie fm Cross Keys  shelved with Martin Caidin
potboilers all under lock and key. That changed.
	The Mammoths unlike Mastodons had to be on the interstates  by
March because they couldn't take the heat 

	John F. Camenga 
	Interlibrary Loan/Periodicals Librarian 
	Public Library of Charlotte & Mecklenburg County
	 310 North Tryon Street
	 Charlotte, NC 28202
	 V. 704-416-0101/F. 704-416-0130
	 jcamenga at plcmc.org 
	PLCMC... Expanding minds. Empowering individuals. Enriching our
community
	 "Never look at the trombones. You'll only encourage
them"....Richard Strauss 

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	From: Campbell, Heather [mailto:HEATHERC at coj.net]
	Sent: Thu 11/6/2008 1:49 PM
	To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv; Camenga, John
	Subject: RE: ILL Code provision

	2.0 Purpose from the ALA Code from the Interlibrary Loan Code
for the United States

	2.1 The purpose of interlibrary loan as defined by this code is
to obtain, upon request of a library user, material not available in the
user's local library. 

	The key phrase is material not available in the user's local
library.  It's open to interpretation- according to one's definition of
available. Some libraries deem something not available if they own it
and it's checked out.  Some libraries take a stricter view- If they own
it, they can't borrow it.  

	JPL answers to a higher power- our local network and its parent
state-wide network which says: If you own it, you can't borrow it. If
your local or state network also has a Code you need to adhere to, check
that out and see what it mandates.

	  In the case you described- the best of luck borrowing
genealogy, local history, or rare (or rare-ish) books. And -if they do
lend them- they restrict them to Library Use Only.  As well they should.
Other libraries won't loan them for the same reason you won't let your
customers check them out.  Soooooooo... what is the reason your
customers want  you to borrow the books? Are they not allowed to look at
or copy Special Collection materials? The resident sabre-tooth tigers
are curious to know.

	Heather Campbell
	Special Services ~ Interlibrary Loan and Books By Mail
	Jacksonville Public Library   303 North Laura Street
	Jacksonville, Florida 32202
	heatherc at coj.net    904-630-2985 

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	From: ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org
[mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org] On Behalf Of Camenga, John
	Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 1:30 PM
	To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv
	Subject: ILL Code provision

	Hi folks,
	We are having issues with our customers wanting to ILL items we
own but are noncirc (local history/genealogy  room items). 
	I had been told that this is forbidden by the ALA ILL code but
i'll be damned if I can find this in any link to the code I've explored.
	If some kind soul would point out this section I would be most
appreciative.
	If it's obvious, name calling is allowed.
	Don't suggest trying to work something out with limited
circulation from our Carolina Room, I've already tried that. Felt like I
stuck my arm in a hungry lion's cage or in Heather's case a hungry saber
tooth tiger
	Thanks,
	John
	John F. Camenga 
	Interlibrary Loan/Periodicals Librarian 
	Public Library of Charlotte & Mecklenburg County
	 310 North Tryon Street
	 Charlotte, NC 28202
	 V. 704-416-0101/F. 704-416-0130
	 jcamenga at plcmc.org 
	PLCMC... Expanding minds. Empowering individuals. Enriching our
community
	 "Never look at the trombones. You'll only encourage
them"....Richard Strauss 

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