[ILL-L] Auto-Deflection MAXCOST Issue

Mon Apr 7 13:42:36 EDT 2008

Hi all,

>From the perspective of a net lender that doesn't auto-deflect based on
MAXCOST (we always Conditional), you'd be really surprised at the wide
variety of values that you'll find in this field on a daily basis.  I think
unless you have a really good reason for believing that someone is
intentionally trying to circumvent the deflection rules, you should simply
assume that the person on the other end of the request form might not be too
savvy in the ways of OCLC.

Regards,
Tom Bruno
Head of Interlibrary Loan
Widener Library
Harvard University

2008/4/7 Megan Bayonet <mbayonet at mbc.edu>:

>  I would agree with this.  I'm new the ILL field and still don't fully
> understand all the fields on the request form, much less how to set up or
> check for auto deflections.
>
> *Megan Bayonet*
> Interlibrary Loan Coordinator
> mbayonet at mbc.edu
> 540-887-7317
>
>
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> *From:* ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org [mailto:
> ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org] *On Behalf Of *joseph augustin
> *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2008 12:06 PM
> *To:* Interlibrary Loan Listserv
>
> *Subject:* Re: [ILL-L] Auto-Deflection MAXCOST Issue
>
> I'm not so sure it's safe to assume that libraries with text messages in
> their maxcost fields are actively attempting to circumvent auto-deflections.
> It seems more likely to me that they just don't understand that 0 is a more
> appropriate entry, and may not even be aware that the maxcost
> auto-deflection exists. Just as often as I see text in the maxcost, I see no
> entry whatsoever, which means the opposite (technically, this is permission
> to charge anything).
>
> --
> Joe Augustin
> Interlibrary Loan & E-Serials
> Earlham College (IEC)
> (765) 983-1307
> ill at earlham.edu
>
>
> 2008/4/7 Campbell, Heather <HEATHERC at coj.net>:
>
> >  I don't like to time-out if I can help it and prefer Conditionals to
> > inform about the policy.     We're a EMST library, too- so we're talking
> > about more than 4 days if they entered us twice.  The requesting customer
> > would be impacted more than the requesting library.   The conditional slows
> > the request up as it is while sending the meta-message:  "*BUSTED*!"
> >
> >
> > Heather Campbell
> > Special Services ~ Interlibrary Loan and Books By Mail
> > Jacksonville Public Library
> > Jacksonville, Florida 32202
> > ill at coj.net    904-630-2985
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org [
> > mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org <ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org>] On
> > Behalf Of Pat Johnson
> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:23 AM
> > To: Interlibrary Loan Listserv
> >  Subject: Re: [ILL-L] Auto-Deflection MAXCOST Issue
> >
> >
> > How about just letting those 'get around' requests just sit for the
> > 4(four) working days, til they move on.... would that not slow down
> > their attempts at requesting auto deflected materials?
> >
> > Campbell, Heather wrote:
> > > We had a similar "getting around the deflection & policy" issue this
> > > past December.  The borrowing library deleted both the OCLC number and
> > > the publication date before sending the request for just published
> > > books.
> > >
> > > Borrowing libraries frequently also send us requests for AV- which we
> > > don't own and deflect for-by sending them as article/photocopy
> > requests.
> > >
> > > My staff answers both types of "get arounds" with "policy problem"
> > > type conditionals.  And sometimes they hiss at the computer as they do
> > > it.  ;>)
> > >
> > >
> > > */Heather Campbell
> > > Special Services ~ Interlibrary Loan and Books By Mail Jacksonville
> > > Public Library/**/ Jacksonville, Florida 32202
> > > ill at coj.net    904-630/*-2985
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > *From:* ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org
> > > [
> > mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org <ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org>]
> > *On Behalf Of *Jennifer Kuehn
> >
> > > *Sent:* Friday, April 04, 2008 2:12 PM
> > > *To:* 'Interlibrary Loan Listserv'
> > > *Subject:* RE: [ILL-L] Auto-Deflection MAXCOST Issue
> > >
> > > Yes, the OCLC system is not smart enough to read text. It can only
> > > look for IFM and a number before it to determine whether to deflect.
> > >
> > > Putting text in the maxcost field is way to get around maxcost
> > > deflection.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jennifer Kuehn
> > >
> > > Head, Interlibrary Services
> > >
> > > Psychology Subject Specialist
> > >
> > > Ohio State University (OSU) Libraries
> > >
> > > 280C Sullivant Hall 1813 N. High St.  Columbus OH 43210
> > >
> > > 614.292.1942 614.292-3061 fax
> > >
> > > kuehn.1 at osu.edu <
> > mailto:kuehn.1 at osu.edu <kuehn.1 at osu.edu>>
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > *From:* ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org
> > > [
> > mailto:ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org <ill-l-bounces at webjunction.org>]
> > *On Behalf Of *Rothbaum, Ellen
> >
> > > *Sent:* Friday, April 04, 2008 1:46 PM
> > > *To:* ill-l at webjunction.org
> > > *Subject:* [ILL-L] Auto-Deflection MAXCOST Issue
> > >
> > > We have auto-deflection set up in our policies to deflect requests
> > > where the MAXCOST is less than our charge.  However, today we received
> > > a requests which said:
> > >
> > > FREE/LVIS/AMIGOS
> > >
> > > in the MAXCOST field.  Does anyone know why this happened?  I think
> > > that it is the second request like this that we received.  Thanks
> > >
> > > Ellen Rothbaum, MS, AHIP
> > > Assistant Director
> > > Daniel Carroll Payson Medical Library
> > > North Shore University Hospital
> > > 300 Community Drive
> > > Manhasset, NY 11030
> > > Voice:  (516) 562-4324
> > > Fax:  (516) 562-2865
> > > ellenr at nshs.edu
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